Especially once you learn the game

@@dizzyheads its like a smash tier skill ceiling

There is a tutorial movie in the extras menu.

@@Penncentral-vr6mg Yes, but the problem is that the game hardly tells you even about the existence of this tutorial movie. So most newcomers are left figuring out a lot on their own just because the game has a tutorial but doesn't bother to tell you that it has one and how to access it. For example, I found out about the tutorial movie *after* beating the Hero story. (Watched tutorials on YT to learn the mechanics cuz I thought there's no tutorial) But the game is amazing once you get a hang of it, the onluly problem being that the game doesn't tell you about it's tutorial unless you go to the extras menu *then* the Theater menu

If 5 year old me can figure it out and beat the game. Anyone can.

@Janeiro I I feel like Heroes overdid it sometimes (especially regarding Amy and Knuckles) but that might very well be because it came after SA2 where the characters were nowhere near as exaggerated. Nevertheless, Heroes’ characterizations are ATLA compared to whatever the hell the 2010s were doing.

@@rainpooper7088 wait knuckles was exaggerated? Really? I never really felt that, I felt like he was just more energetic in that game. Honestly I feel like knuckles was more exaggerated in riders than in heroes. I don’t really recall knuckles being portrayed as being an idiot or overly angry at everything, although he was portrayed as being a cool older brother type character which I think fits him as long as still has certain things that he’s not cool about and he still gets angry. Also I don’t feel like the way Amy was exaggerated was as bad as people say it is. The only bad line I felt like she had was the “no there’s no way out of marrying me” line which yeah was a bit weird but I felt like the main reason everyone gets on it is because team rose attacked sonic, knuckles and tails after. But in context, that wasn’t the only reason they attacked them. They also believed that sonic had the missing chao and froggy because of that picture. Of course they could’ve done explaining that within the cutscene although that’s a problem with the pacing with all the cg rendered cutscenes most likely due to budget constraints so they had to be really short. I’m not trying to excuse it I’m more trying to explain it.

@@rainpooper7088 lolwut? literally every character in heroes talks so juvenially. at least the 2010s characters speak like actual living beings. heroes dialogue sounds like listening to bad AI chatbots.

@@ctpp64 The „extra clobbering“ scene begs to differ.

@@ctpp64 ehem"no copy right law in the universe is gonna stop me", "bucket of sushi, now with fish", "you the missed the BBBE, the best boss beating ever". Yeah people sure speak like that don't they, and that's form a singular game that just got remastered

Same. He sounds even better in Zero Gravity too.

@@jaydenyugi9034 agree

I like it too.

@@jlev1028 if Jet had a Dreamcast va it couldve been better.

In Zero Gravity Jet sounds more unique from Sonic, which is great in scenes where they interact. However, I think I personally like Jet better in the first game, purely because of how silly and crazy his voice was. I loved Jet's unique and hilarious way of speaking, and it's too bad we'll probably never hear his voice again.

If you want more, check out Black Mage Benjamin’s (formerly Black Mage Maverick) video. Genuinely underrated KZfaqr, and he likes Sonic Riders too.

For once? I haven't really seen negative reviews on it before, aside from SomeCallMeJohnny.

@@blackdot105 He’s probably referring to blind Dark Age (or post-Genesis Sonic in general) haters or people ignoring it.

there's hate for this game? everywhere I look, everyone is always praising it.

@@JTTestCheck ratings online. It hurt my heart with what they said about the game

I personally loved zero gravity.

@@crunch1495 Same. I loved Zero Gravity as a kid.

Ngl zero gravity is great in both visual and music but gameplay wise og riders is still better

@@MikeJr9284 Same

Look at all these people of culture in this comment section 🥲

"CALZONE POACHER!" -jet, the idw comics

@Janeiro I I don't know if "cringy" is the right word. Maybe "campy"? The acting is pretty bad and some of the lines are utterly bizarre, but I find it endearing and endlessly quotable. I don't get the same vibe from Sonic Colors's dialogue, but I'm constantly quoting stuff from the earlier 3D era because there's just so much lovable stupidity.

I wouldn’t say cringey.

@Janeiro I There's a lot worse than early 3D Sonic but the line deliveries were very questionable. The voice directing was apparently handled by Japanese people who were trying to direct English speakers, with no proper context of the scenes. It's why we get so many amusing readings like Knuckles's "I'll follow it back to Eggman's base!" and Sonic's "Watch out! You're gonna crash! Ahh!" that remain hilarious to this day. The voice acting is at least charming for me. There's some sort of cheesy, fun energy to it that I just don't get with the games of today.

Say what you want but “Even without wings I can. Right?” is that hardest line to be spoken in man’s existence.

TSR does not have the same problem you described. You generalized it because of off-track environments sharing some of the same assets.

@@windy3935 ...that's exactly the problem. Yes they're not all the same but they end up being similar enough aesthetically that it takes some of the excitement away from the track list as a whole. It's more of an issue with the tracks that were ported from the earlier all-star racing titles though.

@@DesignDoc Now that comment I basically entirely agree with. No exaggerations, and associating the issue moreso with the returning classic stages, which I definitely agree with. It's nice that real effort actually went into remaking them versus their return in Transformed, but it didn't help much the issue mentioned.

I don’t get how the game doesn’t teach you the mechanics when there’s literally a tutorial mode and an instruction booklet. In the video, he said he didn’t know how to create tornadoes but they literally teach you that in the booklet 🤷🏽‍♂️

Easiest racing game ever lol literally just ride turbolence and boost

Sonic Riders 4 having 4 in the title would be acknowledging Free Riders. It should be like Crash 4. Name the new Riders "Sonic Riders 3" or something and casually throw in a joke that makes fun of Free Riders.

A remastered collection of all 3 games that fixes free riders problems would probably be better.

@@mr_indie_fan I agree. Literally all they need to do in order to fix Free Riders is to completely get rid of the motion controls entirely and replace them with traditional button and analog controls and fix the story mode by properly animating the cutscenes and have Ian Flynn give better writing for the characters. I also kinda just want the 4kids actors to reprise their roles for Free Riders, but I know that’s just a pipe dream……

Good luck! I remember grinding one whole day at college to get him. It took me all day and night. Super Sonic is definitely worth it though! He is a fun character who requires great skill to master despite his access to all three shortcuts.

It's honestly not worth that headache. It's one of those things that you'll unlock once and NEVER want to do again. Super Sonic using rings instead of air absolutely destroys any kind of game breaking fun you could have. I'd much rather have fun with the other 3 SEGA characters you get rewarded for simply beating all the missions. NiGHTS is awesome!

Ya I did it a few months ago, I hope you luck in your endeavours

Thanks for watching man. I think you are right. I try to do it where the ads break up the different topics, but since I speak really fast, topic transitions are read like any other sentence so there is no break in the action if that makes any sense. Will see what I can do.

@@JsReviews I have to give you major credit for trying. I’ve loved your videos for a long time and midreel interruptions for many other channels are so badly timed. I didn’t know you choose where to put them. Thanks for all your work as always

06 is a perfect example of this

U mean biased?

@@tyrone2423 Nope. He meant based.

why does the dark age get so much praise? it's not even good.

Riders and Riders Zero Gravity are good games tho.

@@mason2978 i don't give a damn, i just hate the meta era for the lack of ambitious plots that's all sonic 06 still gives me nightmares tho Elise is the worst thing that i ever saw in sonic...

Same, I liked Zero gravity but it just felt clunkier than this game. So many time I tried doing normal air tricks until it hits me that Zero gravity's gimmick wasn't focused on air tricks anymore, which was a learning curve.

That’s why I prefer the Xbox version

PS2 version look worse though and low poly Characters and Gear

@Charles Hastings I play on My Xbox 360(Backwards compatibility) after testing it on the original Xbox and on my Xbox 360 I have 219 hours in and 100% (This game in its best version will never leave me)

Same, it's also my fav. Didn't play sonic much when i was little. I just sat on the couch and watched my older sibling play it because i was too small to understand the games. However for 4 year old me, sonic riders was my shit. And then i started school and never looked back or cared about sonic. I recently replayed the game and learnt how to actually play it and beat the story, something 4 year old me could not do. 13 years later its still hours of fun. Since i like this game so much i made the mistake of emulating some other games like the classics and I'm just dogshit. So riders is still my favourite for now lmao

Even though I can definitely hear Sonic, Blaze, and Knuckles in their performances, the Babylon trios' voices are destinct and funny enough that I can distinguish between the characters. I really wouldn't change them at all, they sound great and bounce really well off each other.

Roger Craig Smith is actually pretty good now in my opinion. Yeah he was pretty bad in Colors and Free Riders, but he’s improved a lot over the past decade. I still easily prefer Jason Griffith’s voice, but Roger is definitely not bad anymore.

well he did rivals after Black Knight

Its gonna be just a five second video showing words "fuck you im not playing free riders"

same and sonicsta uploading a mania video

@CP D2191 true! The visual novel styled cutscene are definitely a downgrade compared to the GCI ones. To be fair, team Sonic racing has the same problem but the GCI cutscenes really made the stories more interesting to watch. I miss having only GCI and in game animated cutscenes in Sonic games.

@@sonicmaiden2871 Agreed, and the openings of both Free Riders and Team Racing showed that the CGI teams were capable of greatness, but they went underused. I’m also willing to bet Free Riders was rushed so it could be out in time for the Kinect’s launch. Think about it: we didn’t know about the Kinect’s existence until E3 2009, and then Free Riders was released in late 2010. If Sega has just pushed Free Riders’s release into 2011 to give us another game for Sonic’s 20th anniversary, it might still have been mediocre, but it probably would’ve at least worked and have more polish in the cutscenes, gameplay, story, etc, and it probably wouldn’t have killed the Riders series.

@@JdRDMS true! Sonic free riders was released as a launch titles for the Kinect. I don't think that Sega made a good decision by making the 3rd riders instalment on the Kinect tough. The first 2 games were released on Wii, GameCube and ps2 so they should've released the next instalment on the ps3 and Wii u, where the fans of these consoles went. Also the first 2 riders games, especially the first one are more complex than a kart racer so oversimplifying that formula and releasing a broken Kinect game wasn't a good idea either. And you're right! Sega can make some great cg cutscenes! Maybe they went underutilized because of the budget they had for these games or just they rushed the games.

It’s great and not bad and I even did a couple of 2021 online races to and finally have it digitally

@@destroyermcw626 SFR is hated for the controls and story but people are forgetting how detailed, high-quality and beautiful the levels are because you can't say that's garbage, take a closer look at them and you'll see just how great they are, I played it and I remember just how natural and lively everything was because the animation of characters and the environments are not at all bad, sure characters will jitter but they're still animated well.

@@artistanthony1007 I still nailed that game easily

@@artistanthony1007 Ugh any haters coming at me will make it sound like I’ve never touched the other riders when I played those for 200+ hours on the first one (Played Original Xbox on my 360) and 300+hours for Zero gravity on my Wii I just love them all and im no fanboy either

@@destroyermcw626 Uhh okay? I was just bringing up that SFR isn't completely irredeemable.

Sonic Riders Ultimate

Obviously riders doesn't use cars but you get my point.