Jyggalag final quote on this matter - ,,I will take my leave, and you will remain here, mortal. Mortal...? King? God? It seems uncertain. This Realm is yours. Perhaps you will grow to your station. Fare thee well, Sheogorath. Prince of Madness". (Just finished up Oblivion Shivering Isles today).

Answer: Having a cool artifact and unskippable dialogue.

Why its quite obvious. The Fashion. That's why Sheogorath will always be the best.

In order to become one of the Daedric Princes, one must first steal a sweetroll.

How to become a Daedric Prince Step 1: Get some dude to sacrifice another dude for you Step 2: ... Step 3: PROFIT

Well, when a daedric king and a daedric queen love each other very much...

Could you do a video on all the afterlife’s of the elder scrolls ?

Fudgemuppet seems to know everything about Tamriel wait isn’t there a daedric prince of knowledge hermaeus mora coincidence I think not

To become a daedric prince, you must have heard of the high elves

Fudge muppet the daedric prince of elder scrolls lore.

Also, I believe Lorkan wasn't a trickster rather I feel that the other Aedra had regret for giving up their power. But with Lorkan being truthful I think that is why the daedra declined, unlike their steadfast brethren.

Answer: do the fishstick, a very delicate state of mind!

You guys should totally make a video discussing the wealthy and powerful families of each province

Technically... won’t Hermaeus Mora be another who was not present for the creation of Mundus? As he is the leftover refuse of that creation.

Alot of power, vanity and THE CHEEESE!! To die for.

Any chance of a cheeky video on the tribunal ?

"Drew the daedrologist" XD I'd love some easter eggs like a character called like that in TES VI

The Ayleid work _The Exegesis of Merid-Nunda_ doesn't suggest that Meridia was cast down when she and the other Magna-Ge fled Mundus back to Aetherius. Instead, it presents her decision to go to Oblivion to be a conscious and willing one. Perhaps her willful decision to go to Oblivion instead is what was later regarded as "consorting with illicit spectra," but she was not at first prevented from returning to Aetherius. There is only one source that talks about Meridia "consorting with illicit spectra," but it's an Imperial tome not entirely about Meridia in particular, and the Ayleids were likely to have a better handle on her origins, as she was their chief deity. Anyway, I think there is something to Mankar Camoran's words, when he talks about Lorkhan actually being a Daedric Prince, and Tamriel as his realm of Oblivion stolen from him by the traitorous Aedra. When you read between the lines of a lot of the myths and histories, that actually makes a lot of sense. In fact, Malacath exista _because_ Boethiah and Mephala both forced Trinimac to realize and/or recant the lies he, Auriel, and the other Aedra had spoken about Lorkhan. After that, Malacath is born as an upholder of honor and bloody oaths, and Boethiah leads her people through Veloth to Vardenfell, where we know lies the Heart of Lorkhan. Even more, Boethiah, Mephala, and Azura's teachings to the Chimer/Dunmer are about how they can transcend mortality and ascend to divinity themselves. This is precisely why, in some accounts, Lorkhan desired to create the mortal realm to begin with. So yeah, I'm more inclined to believe that Lorkhan/Shezarr/Shor is not the trickster, but was betrayed by the jealous and angry Aedra who then commandeered his own world. Oh, and remember that Daedra cannot be killed. Neither can Lorkhan/Shezarr/Shor. Even after having his heart ripped out by Trinimac, he would not die and his heart could not be destroyed. He claimed that his heart was the heart of the world, and one was made to satisfy the other. So yeah, I believe that Lorkhan is properly identified as a Daedric Prince, Tamriel being his realm. Auriel and some of the other Aedra betrayed him and stole his realm away from him, but they were never able to do it completely. Boethia, Mephala, and Azura are actually allies of Lorkhan and seek to fulfill his vision for the world he created.

Can we get a living tribunal video? No, not from Morrowind, I mean FudgeMuppet.

"What makes a Daedric Prince?" If I wasn't a Daedric Prince I wouldn't be sitting here discussing it with you now would I!?

Just started watching FudgeMuppet videos again. Suggestion: Please include your sources in the description! I would really like to read some of these sources for myself. Great video, though. Well done, Drew!

I really like your videos, your tone and your choice of words...have a great way to tell a tale. Liked and subscribed!

FudgeMuppet: The Daedric Lord of lore and the birth of heroes (The character builds)

Good stuff. Even after 4893 hours in Skyrim and a lot of videos here I didn't know Dagon was a creation of the Magna Ge. Also, Fudgemuppet owes a lot to EnaiSiaion, what with how heavily you guys have been using Wintersun lately lol.

So what makes the difference between daedric princes and altmer? Altmer have a bigger ego.

Whenever I watch a Fudgemuppet video and it turn out to be drew I exit, like, then go back to watching and enjoying.

Can't wait for video about Lyg.

Hey Fudgemuppet, been watching your videos for years. Amazing content and I hope to see your work continuing

Can you do a video on the curse words of Tamriel

I’m so glad this channel is growing. You guys deserve it.

great video. i'm glad you became part of the team. your videos are excellent.

Still wish you guys would consider doing Oblivion guides, like proper leveling, which race is suited to a certain Playstyle, how to spec, weapon guides, etc.

FudgeMuppet is Hermaeus Mora, but better

I see the important distinction to kind of them being what they are not, rather than what they are. Although they clearly need to be what would be a large spirit, which usually comes with an identity which you would call their sphere. But based on the lore, I think it is kind of clear that the daedra are closer to what the original spirits were, and it is the Aedra that are different. On that, I see the distinction is that apart from the large sphere, the Aedra are a part of the world, they are the unseeable rules that makes the world work, the cogs things are mortal. Most of their influence practically seems non-existent, meaning faith is a big part of worship, but it is kind of inherent everywhere, they become things like concepts of time. I am not sure exactly the source, but I seem to remember that the original of what would be known as daedra were the other spirits that grew curious of what the Aedra created, so they clustered around Nirn, building their own world and forms around what they found in the mortal plane. The daedric princes being the big boys that largely created their own sphere around particular elements of Nirn that they like. But even if the princes might define princes by this origin, it kind of does not matter to mortals, an aedra that was pulled away from being part of Nirn and became linked to a plane of oblivion, would pretty much be the same thing. A plane of oblivion is not just a place a prince stays and rules over, it is actually a part of that prince, it is why Vile was so weakened when he was separated from his. The Prince being responsible for its creation, as such moulding that plane, is not important. This explains why there is the explanation of an almost infinite planes and what could be Princes, that get harder for mortals to understand as they go out, because they are the spirits furthest away from directly copying parts of Nirn, either building themselves as concepts so alien to Nirn, or maybe some sort of telephone game of continued deformed version of concepts. The elemental oblivion planes with the atronachs, would probably be the spirits that copied elements such as fire, ice and lightning, that they saw in Nirn, but they are kind of just primal concepts that don't really foster anything like a plan, if there is a prince they probably would be just acting like fire, ice, or a storm.

Something ive noticed is that your voice is really soothing. Good job👍🏼

The only good content on KZfaq currently. Excitedly waiting for the next video!!!

Great discussion I always enjoy your TES topic vids

“If” you include Jyggalag. Okay, I’ll remember that. I’m so offended.

Very interesting Drew! I always enjoy your analogies. I think it would be fun to remember the archery skill book "Venaculous and Bourlour" (I think that's how you spell it). It shows how a lesser daedra can conquer the daedric prince status by worshipping. But you brought lots of amazing point of views!

Very insightful video!

Lorkhan for president. 😎 make mondus great again 🤣

IMO if would be cool if for one of the elder scrolls games, the players 'power' came from being/becoming a daedric lord/prince. Quest-line to establish and protect your realm? create your own artifact and alter to be place on Nirn, choose to either help or trick random hero's. Sounds like a blast really.

Awesome video! Could you do an explanation of the afterlife you get with all the princes?

Actually theres more than 17 daedric princes. Most dont do anything with mortals on nirn

Made a mod which adds a spell that teleports you to a castle/house in an unreachable area, my dovahkiin is a Daedric Prince, i guess. 👌

All this information is dare I say maddening!

Love the new banner on yo page it represents the games we like nicely

If Lorkhan would've bothered fetching a weapon for Clavicus, Clavicus would've been aedric.

I love the dramatic cheese panning shots ;-)

Fudgemuppet is the daedric prince of elder scrolls lore

Here's something to research, is the champion of Cyrodiil still Sheogorath by the events of Skyrim?

I love your videos but I was wondering if you would please make a video on it it's possible for a mortal to become a hybrid of a Vampire and a Lich. Thanks & keep making those awesome vids. ! :-)

I like to imagine that FudgeMuppet is a Aedra-esque being diguised as a lowly wanderer on Mundus. However, if one takes the time to listen to tales and musings, they will find themselves blessed with an at tuning of thier spirit. Kinda like how you get stats like sailors repose in skyrim, but much more powerful. A minor diety in his own right.

Thanks guys love ur vids fudgemuppet rules

Mythopoeia, to sum this video up into one word. Its an uderlying theme in all of elder scrolls, the concept that belief in something is what lends it strength. You see this directly in shivering isles, for example. The character may ask how they may become a daedric prince and sheogorath states you merely need "the proper symbols of office" because while youre *not* sheogorath, if you can get the populace of the isles to *believe* in you, that is the essential key to taking the throne of madness. Taking the throne, and weilding the staff, while it doesnt change who you are, it changes perceptions. Who would deny the champion of cyrodill as prince of the isles after they single-handedly ended the greymarch? The living tribunal as well, while they garned exceptional power from the heart, their fall in power is directly correlative to their fall in devout followers, necessitating them to rely more and more heavily on the heart. Concurrently, while they converted followers from the "true tribunal", azura, mephala, and boethiah all declined in power as their followers converted.

My favorite Daedric Princes are Jyggalag, Nocturnal and Hermaeus Mora!

I hope they bring Jigalad to the elder Scrolls 6.

I like to think of sheogorath as a "hulk" rather than an actual being. When jyggalag was defeated by the hero of kevatch, he appears to be free from the curse of sheogorath. Now sheogorath isn't really seen after the battle so one would assume that he's just moved on. However, there is the theory saying that the hero of kevatch is the sheogorath from skyrim. This leads me to believe that his entire existence is based off of living through another entity (while still giving them power)

Hircine may or may not have been an Et'Ada, because if I am correct he is only mentioned after the First Era.

I think the thing they were going for with jyglagg was absolute order is akin to madness, hence why he and sheogorath are one.

The daedric princes are the most interesting part of the lore. I'd like to see all of them take part in the main story for a new game. Something that involves them directly, and doesn't push them off to the side.

I thought Hermy was made up of the unused ideas for creation, meaning he existed concurrently with the Aedra giving up their forms. He wouldn't have had the chance to make that choice if that was when he started existing

based on the lore around it’s origin, I’ve been seeing Herma Mora as being more akin to Sithis - a force of nature made conscious - than the Daedra.

Seeing FudgeMuppet posted a new video Realizing it’s another lore video and that we haven’t had a Fallout 4 build for over half a year and we haven’t had a Skyrim build for a while as well

Cool video 👌

Maybe a video about ogres, goblina and why they don't appear in Skyrim

This is a great channel I sub now lol

An awesome video like all of your works. I have one request great daedrologist. What is the music you used in the video? It was enchanting.

What if there was a quest in skyrim or the next game where you actually lift Jyggalag's curse? I would enjoy that especially seeing how the prince didn't really do anything to deserve the curse other than gain power doing his job

I am convinced you have Todd Howard locked in your basement.

I think Hermaeus Mora is a bit fuzzy too. He's described as the resulting amalgam of discarded drafts and ideas not used in the process of creating Mundus.

i watched this while taking a dump. Thanks.

Drewww good video bud

Lmao. While you were listing the names of princes i got a commercial that immediately said "Arco Gas!" And I was like... wait what?

I like to think of the daedra as simply extremely magical beings from Oblivion. Daedric Lords are therefore just the most powerful of their Daedric Realm. Aedras therefore are simply extremely magical beings from outer Mundus. And the Eight are rulers of their realms which take the form of the planets and have their names. I like to think that they all play along with the lore that the people of Nirn create. Manipulating them and either shaping them to their whims (Aedra) or attempting to conquer their realm (Daedra). This however does not mean they aren't semi/fully spiritual forms which allow for say, Tiber Septim to become spiritual. However it is noteworthy that no one calls Talos Aedric or even claims he has an Aedric realm/planet. And so it is my hope that humanity after crushing the filthy Elves and building their power that they will one day march into Oblivion slaying the Daedric Lords and set flame to the great societies of the Aedra and not spare the so-called Eight. Reality Belongs to the Humans!

Molagbal is my favourite because I always play with a mace and his is really good

Lorkan: would you like to help us create our own plain of reality? Molagbal: **Erupts in to boisterous laughter** Ahhhhh.... no no no.... No. Why do that when I can have my own instead to hold true dominion over? Lorkan: That’s fair. Molagbal: **laughs** Not only am I making my own plain now, it’s gonna be the exact image of what yours will look like when I destroy it! Lorkan: **funny sitcom pose** This guy!!

I fear not those who claim themselves as gods, i fear the ones who call me criminal scum for they demand sacrifices paid in stolen goods or in blood.

And then there was Vernaccus, Prince of Limitations and all that is forgotten

Man the elder scrolls actually has complex lore. I never paid attention to it when I first played skyrim. Then I went back and played morrowind, oblivion and now skyrim again and now see that these games have some rich lore. I'll have to give daggerfall a spin too.

I like to think we will get a new Daedric Prince some day, it is such a rich topic that is pretty untapped, especially Jyggylag

An even more interesting question to ponder. How many more beings at the rank of "Daedric Prince" are out there that we don't know about, because they don't feel or care about meddling with the Mundus?

Could you guys do a video about the actual elder scrolls? (As in the scrolls themselves.)

Don’t know if you’ve made videos like these before but I think Tamriel bestiary videos would be pretty cool, with lore and information about creatures , animals, monsters in Tamriel

Oh, snap. Now I understand why that one Reguard conjuror in Morthal talked about "those who are not our ancestors" when calling upon the Oblivion realms.

Jyggalag was probably at his most powerful in the time of Dreugh Kings. There was no destruction, and no hope, or madness. Without that I’d imagine there was order

so one thing I would like to see is a story that involves jygilack being spat out into nirn to eventually be found by a mortal who was willing to fuse with jygilack granting them both great power and shitting on the other daedra's peraid but that's just me though but you've got to admit that it would be awesome to see a new daedric prince be created from a sickly jygilack and a mortal preferably of low born origins who got chased out of town for something

Hey isn’t this the song from Clear Vision, the sniper flash game?

Ahhhhh maelstrom arena, I remember spending hours in ESO trying to beat that

I really want you guys, EpicNate, ESO, MxR and Graenolf to have voice roles in the Elder Scrolls series. It would be a dream come true, like when TeamFourStar had a part and voice roles in Xenoverse 1 & 2.

'Our brethern (are) beyond number, endless mastery, embodiment of permanence and change. Yet the grand write denied (to) us. The lack was keenly felt, (thus) Creation was beyond our claim. Those in sacrifice gained what in selfish pride we were denied. Jealousy wrought our spite, (to) twist, torment, and force to our will. Creation we covet, never ours, forever our amusement.' Some assorted quotes from the scrolls games I put together to try and say what I feel like the Daedra are. They need no followers, belief, or worshipers. They want what they refused to sacrifice for, the power of creation. No daedra can create something new that is separate from themselves. Even the artifacts adventurers crave are in fact 'pieces' of themselves that are still connected to them. So they amuse themselves with all of creation that they can twist, torment, and change. Trying to grasp the power of creation, but always falling short.

In a true "what if" scenario. How would the mortal plain be different if they had helped in it's creation?

Why can't they pay you to voice all the lore books in game? Your voice is perfect for it and gives me the feels here in America. I demand FudgeMuppet as an NPC in future games. By the way I have all these books you read memorized and often read them to myself just because of how cool they are.

An idea for TES VI. Imperials win civil war, Thalmor takes all provinces except for the one? we will play in. Staying true to themselves, Thalmor enforces order everywhere which makes Jyggalag stronger. The lost prince starts aiding Thalmor to take over remaining lands to grow even stronger. At the start of the game you as a protagonist wake up in the back of a wagon. There are some other dudes as well. Look around you, nice, rocky mountains sight,, there's been snowfall recently. Someone gives you a drink of mead saying "It's good to take the edge off". Have a sip, hear dragon's roar in the distance, "Skyrim: Next Generation" text appears in the middle of the screen.

What about Azura?She created the Khajit AND the Dunmer 😉

yaayyyy more deadric lore

Dank 👌👌

if you talk about the involvement of meridia, "molag bal", hermaeus mora, and mehrunes dagon in fighting alduin in lyg to preserving the best parts of the old kalpa, imma shit.

100% nothing stops a mortal from making their own plane, then inhabiting it, becoming very old, then fuck it tease some mortals.

Lore vid on the nine holds?