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What Makes Fox The BEST In Melee?
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Outro: • SUPER SMASH BROS Melee...
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@dawidszymulewicz2747 2 жыл бұрын
“I want a little Cody in me” - Mango, 2021
@thatmexicankid8798 2 жыл бұрын
2022*
@dawidszymulewicz2747 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatmexicankid8798 1:17
@shivness 2 жыл бұрын
@@dawidszymulewicz2747 he just doesn't remember lmao, he said "I think.." after
@AbatedToast77 2 жыл бұрын
Cum
@caderbot 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s 2021… I think” oh mango 😂
@faraday7879 2 жыл бұрын
I agree about fox not having to combo. If you're a marth/sheik/falco and you don't get 70% off your grab/shine, you're gonna have a BAD time
@vegaplus420 2 жыл бұрын
ur getting comboed instead of comboing, youre gonna have a baaaad toiiiime
@youtubeonly520 2 жыл бұрын
You forget to add that getting those 70& with sheik marth falco is easy.
@BarriLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeonly520 easy? maybe if your opponent is bad. let me guess, you're a fox player or something? maybe some random salty mid-tier?
@yurplethepurple2064 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeonly520 bro getting 70 on any char is hard
@aqahar2 2 жыл бұрын
can we appreciate that he just called fox and falcon simple. but he gets grilled for fox and not falcon
@s3mdd 2 жыл бұрын
Ssf2 player valid ddd! !!!1
@ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 2 жыл бұрын
they're not mechanically simple, but their game plan is
@Finneagan 2 жыл бұрын
Because Fox is clearly more complicated than Falcon
@guyfauks2576 Жыл бұрын
@@Finneagan cap
@Finneagan Жыл бұрын
@@guyfauks2576 How is falcon more complex than fox?
@Probasaur 2 жыл бұрын
"We all wanna be like moky..." this is true
@TriopsTrilobite 2 жыл бұрын
mang0 has the best melee takes, because they come from an intuitive place. He looks at the big picture
@MrSlowpez10 2 жыл бұрын
He also changes his mind every couple of months lol
@jaden9135 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSlowpez10 because the game changes
@DontTipMe 2 жыл бұрын
Based mang0 defending Marth's honesty from salty spacie players. This is why he's the goat.
@Ratooby 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s 2021... I think..yeah”- Mang0 2022
@h2_ 2 жыл бұрын
Shine is a crime against humanity.
@VisualTraining 2 жыл бұрын
That combo at 7:13 though??
@teamxsquirtle 2 жыл бұрын
Dawg the video came out two minutes ago 😭
@VisualTraining 2 жыл бұрын
@@teamxsquirtle notif gang wya
@luiscarlosgm123 2 жыл бұрын
No techs by sheik
@Ragemuffin225 2 жыл бұрын
what if, and hear me out here, chat was edited into the youtube video
@TheBeggies95 2 жыл бұрын
Mango's take are always on point
@doggiegroundhog9223 2 жыл бұрын
I just started playing smash entirely in august and being a Fox main has taken me way further then any character should have. He feels so easy
@Xalashaska 2 жыл бұрын
in that case we’ll be seeing you at the next summit
@benmcgiggles7655 2 жыл бұрын
Either im really high or the moky cody thing was really profound
@tiaraguy7705 2 жыл бұрын
I always forget how fast Mango actually plays, he's doing shit on the reg that's frame perfect or near it
@vibeslyph3137 2 жыл бұрын
moky mcbrokey vs cody mcwokey
@coreygolphenee9633 2 жыл бұрын
Fox is situationally ridiculous, you can plop him in so many melee scenarios and he just wins
@chazjwatson 2 жыл бұрын
we all know mang0 is the answer
@ariesomega2487 2 жыл бұрын
Spark looking nice his bairs are crazy
@lakessbm 2 жыл бұрын
I need some Cody too. I have similar style to mango. Just win neutral Everytime but small or no combos lol
@Mike-vs1gf 2 жыл бұрын
In my bad player metagame, marth appears to be the easiest to pick up and gets rewarded for just swinging around.
@rafaelarevalo8047 2 жыл бұрын
fox is the stupidest character lmao he truly has so much freedom to do whatever he wants, definitely the most fun character to play as for me
@trolazoceja 2 жыл бұрын
Falco is the true goat underrated character
@gatorssbm 2 жыл бұрын
Sheik has always seemed like she has had the longest stretch of being a character thats hard to use at top level
@revelation2-9 2 жыл бұрын
Sheik is overrated but still a great character. I don't think she is top 4 anymore. My spacies dual main friend, falcon main friend, and fox main friend all agree that Sheik is 5th at best in today's game. Sheik has to rely too much on a game plan for neutral in order to get percent as opposed to characters like Fox or Marth.
@majestic95 2 жыл бұрын
@@revelation2-9 I agree, I think sheik is overrated but still a good character. She’s just hard carried by how good she is at low and mid level melee
@revelation2-9 2 жыл бұрын
@@majestic95 Exactly. She smurfs at lower levels and then drops off a cliff at higher levels.
@coreygolphenee9633 2 жыл бұрын
Falcon is easy to play but every opportunity you get to play you better make it count
@melee9183 2 жыл бұрын
Fox privilege
@foolproofduck 2 жыл бұрын
The Fox hate will get serious if Cody keeps winning. Amazing how everyone always complains about the character the best player is using.
@foshed_tv 2 жыл бұрын
People will complain about any perceived meta in any game. As soon as things start to stagnate, people get bored. I think that’s just natural.
@the1shrubbery 2 жыл бұрын
u do realize that fox has significantly the most player representation if u check top 100 compared to other characters?
@foshed_tv 2 жыл бұрын
@@the1shrubbery yes but fox doesn’t win every single tournament. People complain about fox as it is anyway, I see plenty of “another fox matchup 😴” in every tournament chat. I guarantee more people will complain if foxes win every tournament.
@cjkmelee 2 жыл бұрын
What happened was for a brief moment the best player didn't play fox. and Fox players just parrot the top fox player opinions which was boohoo me. Same thing happened when Hbox was winning. Fox players expect to just fox on people and when their gameplay fails "ooh it must be the MU that character is dumb"
@garrettvelkjar3136 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjkmelee For real some people were out saying that fox had a losing matchup vs Jiggs...
@Galactic.Scoonie77 2 жыл бұрын
fox supremacy
@fleidyleegyrson7361 2 жыл бұрын
Name someone who doesn’t want to be moky or none
@Sapreme 2 жыл бұрын
wizzrobe
@fleidyleegyrson7361 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sapreme chill
@LorreMaitale 2 жыл бұрын
Audio issues are weird.
@windwaker5599 2 жыл бұрын
The distorted audio is to “mute” the music in the background preventing KZfaq from claiming/taking down the video. The editor is doing it intentionally
@sweazer 2 жыл бұрын
@@windwaker5599 thats 500IQ big brain
@Finneagan 2 жыл бұрын
Fox does not need to combo as much as other characters, but he still needs to combo... Shine -> Grab Shine -> Up-Smash Up Throw -> Up-Air ...are all pretty essential kill confirms. You can get some cheesy edgeguards sometimes but you still need to push your advantage state as much as any other character. The faster you get someone to kill percent the better.
@Sapreme 2 жыл бұрын
Those are so baby that if you consider those combos then rapid jabs and utilt -> utilt are combos lmao fox has it easy because he can nair into anything and everything. It's basically his version of falco dair
@Finneagan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sapreme Doesn't matter if it's easy, a combo is a combo. They're about as easy as dair -> shine -> literally anything on Falco anyway. Nair only combos into shine at really low percents btw, it's great but not nearly as versatile as Falco dair. Fox has easier kill confirms for sure but like I said he has press his advantage state constantly to compensate for Falco hitting him harder than he does.
@mogaku776 2 жыл бұрын
So true, goat.
@NeonMyloXyloto 2 жыл бұрын
fox players are spoiled when they dont even know it
@ForrestBreeze 2 жыл бұрын
2:01 i think falcons... 2:02 (shitty audio) kinda easy
@sareaper69 2 жыл бұрын
Just started playing Melee. Been watching tourneys since 2015. It's so addicting. Been grinding like crazy. 2 questions. What are good practice intervals for this game, and which actions are reserved for the right stick vs the A button. This game is pretty hard.
@adamparness6627 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh it’s mostly preference if your prefer to use A or the C-stick find what is most comfortable for you. Also wdym by practice intervals?
@sareaper69 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamparness6627 like, how many hours is good for practise, what to practise, and is it better to do days in a row than a break, everyday, or day on day off?
@adamparness6627 2 жыл бұрын
@@sareaper69 I would say practice as much as you like, as long as you are having fun that’s all I need to keep me going. I recommend practicing your movement (wavedashs,wavelands, dash dancing etc.) and just getting comfortable with how the game feels. It’s difficult to articulate but the essence of it is having fun and learning one day at a time.
@sareaper69 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamparness6627 I am approaching melee the same way I play and practise basketball. When you dashdance, the point is to be watching for errors or whiffs and being ready to capitalize, right? Is there a point to practising different lengths of dashdances? And is there a point in practising more advanced tech before becoming alright at the game?
@sareaper69 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamparness6627 sorry for bombing you with questions
@XxHistorikxX 2 жыл бұрын
Pressing buttons fast =/= hard character.
@Akiak7 2 жыл бұрын
PAL ftw
@alanbangura7949 2 жыл бұрын
Naw we all want to be Mango
@john34557 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I dislike about Cody the most, he camps mid tiers and im like cmon bro He's American Leffen and Mew2king jr
@kevingarcia4921 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever wins
@swank8508 2 жыл бұрын
mid tiers deserve to be camped
@IAMMRONALD 2 жыл бұрын
mids are a disgrace
@milesd0texe385 2 жыл бұрын
@@swank8508 who hurt you?
@revelation2-9 2 жыл бұрын
@@milesd0texe385 Profile picture checks out lmao
@woodenhouse8531 2 жыл бұрын
Its hard to me saying what is best character in melee. Actually, top 1 in the world has never been a fox main. If you have a look, Ken was marth main, Pc Chris Falco, M2k Marth, Mango Puff and then Falco, Armada peach, PPMD Falco and marth, Hbox puff, Zain Marth.. So, Fox is probably the best but theres no evidence to be 100% sure
@Buttsubushi_OCE 2 жыл бұрын
Doesnt that just prove he is the best character to have as a secondary?
@esbluetheprototype 2 жыл бұрын
All of Melee's top players rose to prominence without Fox & half of them never even really secondaried Fox. So yeah... him being the best character is debatable. Marth has a better shot at the title based on results.
@youtubeonly520 2 жыл бұрын
And that is DESPITE Fox being the most played character by far. Not only is there no evidence that Fox is the best on a human level; there's quite a lot of very very convicing argument that that is not the case.
@WhoPlaysMc 2 жыл бұрын
was mango not the best with fox for a period?
@bigredog100 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhoPlaysMc He was lol, he won back to back Evo's with Fox. M2K also played Fox BEFORE Marth, and still did after he picked up Marth. Armada picked up Fox as well. And I love how Leffen is not even mentioned. Now we have Cody literally beating everyone with Fox.
@Chymistry 2 жыл бұрын
I hate fox so so much
@eneada2618 2 жыл бұрын
ask me how I know you get thrown and shine spiked near the ledge
@nihatnihat8264 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get this? Is this what Fox, or spacies privilege is? Why does he talking about the fact that it's hard to win a tournament with spacies? What about Bowser, Kirby, Pichu, mario, Zelda, Link, etc. is it supposed to be easier with them??? Edit: Well, he said Marth is also hard...
@john34557 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think its easier to win with Fox than with the other top tiers
@Sapreme 2 жыл бұрын
Those you mentioned aren't even tournament viable if you're trying to win, so they're not even in the discussion.
@mlalbaitero 2 жыл бұрын
Just cause u can do tech skill consistently doesn't mean that it still isn't hard
@Sapreme 2 жыл бұрын
Dude everyone has techskill now. You can run into dozens of random foxes on slippi on any given night that can shield drop, ledgedash, waveshine, etc perfectly, but still get blown up because they don't have fundamentals to hit you or DI out of combos. They just do the same approach every time and hold in while getting comboed.
@mlalbaitero 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sapreme yeah but tech skill is still hard
@Gobblesthepatient 2 жыл бұрын
just because a character has alot of tech skill doesn't necessarily make it hard
@mlalbaitero 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gobblesthepatient when it's optimal to do all that tech skill then yes it is
@Gobblesthepatient 2 жыл бұрын
@@mlalbaitero what about positioning? Decision making? Matchup knowledge? Tech skill mastery is just one facet of many
@hablaf12 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s face it, Mario is the best character!
@laylaeatstrees8689 2 жыл бұрын
Hiyaaaaaaah
@peternecron 2 жыл бұрын
THIRD
@youtubeonly520 2 жыл бұрын
Just like with the Armada GOAT debate he is in denial of, if you look at which Fox only people won supermajors in the past 20 years, he is the lowest on the list. Despite being BY FAR the most played character. He literally only argues for his fucking ego.
@bigredog100 2 жыл бұрын
That's literally not true tho. Just looked at the smash wiki and he's tied with Marth. It's not even updated with Cody's recent Summit win.
@youtubeonly520 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigredog100 You are dishonest and wrong about this.
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