On the subject of Falco versus wolf, a player by the name of ivayne used to mean wolf but has completely switched to Falco and it made him better

I think most melee players would say Falco and sheik have better projectiles than Fox. Fox's lasers are great because fox has them, but if he had Falco lasers he would be absolutely busted. Good video tho! Hope you do a video on peach. Imo the issue with playing the same character in both games is just muscle memory. Little differences in how a character works can make a big difference in tournament.

Thank you for using clips from our Project+ tournaments for your videos. Our players get super excited when you do!

Thanks so much for the high quality melee content friend. A rare sight in any scene with a fairly small community. Keep it up and thanks again!

The way I see it, having to fight a cast full of characters with the equivalent of Melee marth punish game while also being nerfed isn't really a very attractive draw towards the character, feels like playing the game on hard mode.

Damn this is a really well made video. Awesome job man

awesome content, now do an Olimar video >:] Also i feel like the main issue for melee fox players going into PM is the matchup spread. Fox is still easily top 10 but they have to contend with wayyyyyyy more characters than Melee, many of which have unique gameplans and successfully fill niches that don't work in the latter game like they do in PM/+.

remember when they made fox shine's knockback scale up a tiny bit based on percent and the melee heads all threatened to quit

Fox’s lasers were never considered to be better than falco’s btw. He is better for other reasons. Fox’s lasers are mostly good as a camping tool and are only good againsr slower characters while falco’s define his entire neutral. Also falcos offstage is not more deadly at all, fox’s shine and longer upb makes his offstage game better than falcos

I have nothing to say I just realy like your content and I'm commenting for the 'rhythm

3:42 amazing Armada highlight. Thanks for including Armada so much like he's back in action once more

evrytime i play melee i hear fox in my head say HIYAH

I think that the nerft in the intangibility is a big nerft. That's because some situations like attack an opponent that is shielding, can end in a easier shieldgrab From the opponent. And the shine oos is slightly weaker

that was cool seeing melee fox back it is just the best

Project M/Project+ Fox is my favorite iteration of Fox in all of Smash Bros

Hey, is that PMEX Remix I'm seeing here? I wouldn't mistake Bayonetta's static arm cloth for anything else. That aside, I really miss Melee clones being ever so slightly modified, but creating a whole new character through a few number changes anyway.

Doesn't PM fox also have a shorter firefox and an extra frame of jumpsquat? Also doesn't shine have small knockback growth so that gimps and waveshine combos are more percent dependent?

I have to disagree with the video. Pm fox got way more changes than explained in the video and all the "minor" changes make a huge difference. Fox feels like a super fragile character.

when he uploads you know its hype

You forgot about Ledgestalling in Melee and run up Up Smash in PM

I’ve been fairly new to p+ and melee but pm is just sooooo much easier to move

losing the the 1frame invincibility in shine sucks ass, not it klanks vs jabs, loses vs many tilts and most smashes and because of the grabs in p+ work weirdly, you shine hit the opponent and they grab you regardless

HIYA

Fox isn't by far the best character tho, in fact anyone in the top 6 has an argument for the future

Collab with AsumSaus when? You two have similar editing styles

poggies

Hey whats the first song used please?

Fox isn’t just amazing in Melee… He’s amazing in *EVERY* Game

HIIIYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! 🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊

Great video, I just disagree about fox’s laser being better than falco’s

Falco lasers are clearly a better projectile than fox'

How I wish they would put melee on the Switch online service, and then change the balance making Fox a useless character

PM fox just feels bad compared to melee :/

4:30 hackysack

Play the new pm remix update

What about why Ganondorf is painfully average

Fox laser is not better than falco

So many misinformation

Even though i despise the melee fox, but i don't hate fox in pm/+ because i like brawl fox voicelines miles lot more than melee one. melee fox sounds so annoying to me tho.

most players dont know how to use yellow stick power smashes mid air any direction and can be devestating to all the counters. shiek actually sucks bad. i owned my nerdy gamer friend but to be fair i did get owned eventually by him aswell but we both owned eachother but my friend and his speed was kind of like a catalyst for me to learn to perform faster and made me try to the point to where i wanted the world record and couldve had it if i wanted to but didnt. because we didnt have youtube to sponser that. so we had to figure out what nights at the ymca had gamer nights. i still retain my memory on how to battle on melee. brawl kind of sucked cause everyone would use sonic and his ultimate all the dam time. to the point to where i had to get crafty with the way id battle and id destroy the ultimate ball when it came or told players to turn off the special cause it was basically "cheap" to do that. Real skill comes from natural mechanics OG mechanics

Design wise he looked much better in melee

I’ve had a grudge against Fox in Melee in the past. Also, despite me being in the middle with Fox nowadays, I personally think that any Melee player who mains Fox are just bad at the game. They have no talent at all.

This video was a lot of "Fox is good because he is good". I guess I just wasted 9 minutes of my life.

Melee foxes malding rn