joao victor I second this

He did a new one a month ago lol

@@richardj.rustleshyman2026 Link? I can't find it.

@@TimoKanal search "GamerFidelity", the first result is the video

Why? So people can be fed more incorrectness? Here are my thoughts on it-- Delete this video man.. it's old and completely wrong. As a competitive gamer and an audiophile I'm going to commentate on this video: First, if you want to get W's it doesn't really matter how comfortable it is to most competitive gamers. Second, frequency response graphs are just as important as when listening to music. You'll notice 100% more and get absolutely wrecked if there's a valley in the treble. Any extra bass means they're garbage... Why are you saying you want a lot of bass? Third, the reason gaming headphones are closed is NOT just because of isolation...It's because the diffuse field is better. Open has worse DF on anything below most $500 sets. EVERY company that makes these do it this way for a reason man. In-game, diffuse field with a closed sound is way way way better than an open headphone for VR/ASMR/accurate binaural recordings/GAMING. You finally said something that is true: SS and VSS is definitely bad. Fourth, virtual barber shop is good on almost any headphones because there's no visual to match it...it doesn't need to be accurate to a location, so no matter what you're listening through, if it's stereo, it'll sound cool. Doesn't mean it's accurate. Fifth, gaming doesn't care for nuances?? Texture/detail doesn't matter?? Are you kidding me RN? The amount of layering and detail in-game is SUPER important in gaming. What the heck are you talking about? Sixth, you do NOT want bass. Why do you keep saying you want bass? That's the 100% opposite. Seventh, a removable cable is something, like comfort, that gamers will not care about.. at all. DT 770 is definitely a good gaming headphone if you can get it for $120ish. Takstar/HyperX are better. Seventh, a better DAC gives you better L/R separation? Uhh.. games are putting out 24/96 at the very best. A DAC is optional. A good amp will be good though because of transients. How to game: PC > JDS Atom > closed back, treble heavy headphones. Portapros are the worst possible gaming hp's out there because even when centered on your ear canal the DF is wonky AF. I'm not going to comment on the others.. you're obviously not a very competitive gamer, why pretend?

Well... it says everything :D

Nyanino for 700 dollar cans they would want to

I have the ath adg1's which are a version of the ad700x and holy shit the sound stage on these is fucking huge. Your mind will be blown away. I actually forget I even have headphones on sometimes

are they put bass on this headset, or it has no bass at all like ad700 or 700x?

ADHD

I lol'd at that ++ his review not your copycat comment, lol.

wtf

AruGames i have a 2.1 crative speaker and bauhn noise cancelling headphones cheapo hahaha.. problem is speakers can get too loud and i have external mic they cant hear me when im using speakers

I bet he meant 5.1 or 7.1 speakers, well, you cant actually hear 5.1 or 7.1 in 2.1 speakers. I got my Logitech z906 5.1 speakers for a year and it's doing good in gaming, heaphones are not that good. But I've heard 125 dollar "gaming" headphones, and I can say they are noc comfortable, and "7.1" in those is.. crap. I got my new Sony MDR-1A recently and I can say that GOOD REAL STEREO is much better than FAKE 7.1 or 5.1

that's why you shouldn't ask for advice from audiophiles. they don't know any shit about gaming equipments.

So CONFUSINGGGGG I just want some good headphones that are great for gaming and give me that advantage

Shottzyy Do you Play CS:GO? If yes can you say if you can hear footsteps Well?

I do not play csgo much but in nearly every game you can hear where anything is coming from, I have been playing rust recently and I can hear where footsteps are coming from

Shottzyy Do you got extra Pads for them? And do you have a Soundcard or Onboard?

No I do not have extra pads for them but I am thinking of getting some, these ones seem to hurt a little after a few hours of use and I am also using Onboard.

I have the HD668B's with velour pads from ebay, they feel much more comfortable and make a better seal around the ear (the headphone is still semi-open though) but like with the original pads, my ears will get sore after a few hours due to the strong clamping force. The 668's are great but for $75 you should rather get the Philips SHP9500 which are a big step up in audio quality and are so comfortably you forget that you are wearing them very quickly, Zeos also has a review on them.

TheEpicJello So... It's been a year... How do you like your headphone set-up?

It's been a month and you haven't got a reply so I'll let you know how it was for me. I've had the combo for around 2 years powered by a SoundBlaster E5 . awesome setup still. Really neutral which is great. one bad point is the plastic near the ends of the head adjustment. It is brittle and can snap easily. That said it doesn't affect the wrap around the ear at all. Overall 8.5/10

turxa hello, i am interested to buy a k7xx. Is it true that this headphone sounds shit when you play csgo? Also if it compared with hd 598 which is better?

turxa also is it really worth to buy a gaming soundcard when you can get an amp and dac at the same price?

Makoro Gaming well the e5 is a dac amp combo so yeah that answers that. The headphone has really great lows and when powered pack a beautiful punch. It's fine for cs.. Can hear footsteps easily.

MrMassivemeatlog I have these and was looking to upgrade to something else. I want a bit more bass.

which pair?

Almost any Sennheiser. They're all extremely light

+John Highway My old 429s weren't very comfortable though.

hd 280 pro are torture devices. Had them for 8 years

Got my hd 598's today and they are super comfy and have a nice soundstage. My ATH M50x will go back to Amazon :D When I get my money back the Philips SHP9500 are next in line.

The 558's are just weaker versions of the 598's so the 668's will have better low end. The 770's should be enough but if you wanted to try another set of open cans the 668's are the cheapest. Yes, you basically NEED the hifiman pads to get the 668's to their best.

Z Reviews thanks for the fast reply!! I got the 770s first because i needed a closed headphone, but I got the 558s use, but in mint condition for a steal of a deal! and i wanted to try open headphones. So with that said, you said that the 668bs are a great pair of cans for the money and that they are great for gaming as well. will the 668bs have more sound stage than the 558s? will i notice a difference between the 2? thanks again!!

With the HiFiman pads you should.

+Gabrol :c

+Gabrol They are like cheating for video games. I had a gaming room for a while in my basement with my dad's old 5.1 surround system and it gave me a huge advantage. Moved locations though so I might not experience that again for a long-time.

+Gabrol yeah but you can get great headphones at 300 bucks, speaker equivalent sound would be $300 per speaker

i got 2 lsr 305 studio monitor speakers for around the mid 200's. youd likely still want a sub for that deep explosion rumble though.

Gabrol I have speakers but you see I game late at night, and you know other people exist

theodoro89 X2's for gaming. MAYBE 600's for music. Too close in my head to call.

Z Reviews How different are the X2's to 600's? You should get a tube amp for a review to pair with 600's and those Beyerdynamics, they love the tubes, even something cheap, like...check out the Bravo V3 or Schiit Vali, you can't go wrong with that for 100 dollars and it will give you a taste of 600's with a bigger and more open soundstage. I always preferred my Beyers and Senns with tubes because it just makes them sound more special and so smooth due to lower harmonic distortion in the higher frequencies that you get with tubes. It might sound weird, but I think tube amps work better for gaming with high impedance neutral headphones, it just makes the sound bigger and more bombastic somehow. Kinda like those vintage amps do for speakers, just makes them feel more powerful.

derbigpr500 I got the xDuoo TA-02 and I couldn't tell a difference between it and my E09K. i.imgur.com/5FADgEh.jpg I would need to spend a bit more to really get the tube experience. That review is also coming.

derbigpr500 I second this I had a little dot mk3 with my 650's and it was orgasmic. After getting into the speaker game I sold off the little dot since I almost never use it anymore and whenever I try to use my 650's with my 02 it just feels like it is missing something. I only use them for vent now since I got the studio 530's

Z Reviews What is that little "square thing" attached to the E09K ?

@LKaheeros i use the shure srh1540 (the price dropped from 500 to 400 recently on those) and they are great for gaming and really anything in general... i wanted closed-back so that there was no chance of bleeding sound into my external microphone too

Also your links in the description are a HUGE help and such a fantastic feature!

I can. But I won't have the same selection.

Z Reviews woah I didnt actually expect a responde but, yeah I was just wondering about the He400 and the shp9500 where they sit in this comparison.

Z Reviews it would be awesome!

Z Reviews def want a to date version z! Pls

Curious. I read your comment that hearing footsteps on the Sennheiser HD 700 were pretty bad since those particular headphone have an "airy" audio presentation. So how does having a bass headphone like the Beyer Dyanamic DT 770 Pro help with hearing footsteps ?

Good point. I should have clarified. I can equalize these headphones for any purpose. If i want to hear footsteps ill increase the treble a bit and lower the bass just a touch and footsteps come out pretty darn good. Not as good as my Sennheiser HD 598. But pretty respectable. If im in a mood to go Bass crazy then again i equalize for a Bass Boost and the Bass in my Beyer Dynamics pour into my ears like im standing next to dance club speakers ! Yes. The bass is that good. I pretty much game on those 2 headphones. Sennheiser HD 598 for footsteps. Beyer Dynamic DT 770 Pro if im in a mood to have insane amount of bass in my gaming.

Are the Sennheiser hd 598 bass that bad compared to the Beyer Dynamics ?

No. Not at all. The Sennheiser hd 598 bass is present. It is decent. But i was personally left with wanting more. And so I asked Z Reviews what his thoughts were on the Audio Technica a1000z. I didn't hear from him so i started to dig around his videos until i saw this one and once Zeos pointed out the Beyer Dynamics DT 770 Pro saying "these headphones have the best bass" then i knew my search was over. Also, it depends on what games you are playing. If it's Counterstrike then i would recommend the HD 598. But if its Battlefield 1 and you want crazy amount of BASS then the Beyer Dynamics will be the way to go ! one last thing i have the 80 ohms version. Most audiophile message boards point out the 80 ohms version having better bass compared to the 250 ohm version.

Where did you hear bass in the Beyer Dynamic DT 770 Pro ? Yes, it's not this bass these Beyer Dynamic DT 770 Pro shit brains just cut out the high frequencies dry and flat sound

+GogoMkSk I think I go over it on this video. No point in multiple driver headphones.

+Z Reviews Yeah you did about them, but what about the ones that have a single driver and use software to create an artificial surround like the Bloody G501?

+GogoMkSk Well software can be used on any headphone the question is does it benefit. And I can't say since I don't have any of the software.

+Z Reviews cool! Thanks for the help! Keep on rocking!

+GogoMkSk why did you ask that he called surround shit ? Is it different?

That seems to be the general consciences, you're more likely to pick up on quiet footsteps, reloading etc most say. I don't know, but the HD598's with their not so powerful bass felt like cheating a few times in some FPS.

Superlux 668 and Senn 598 seem to be good

Honestly, I personally prefer the ad700x's sound, and they are slightly more open than the 598s. But the 598s are slightly more comfortable. Your decision should really be influenced by that last point.

GGDany ad700x with m&m stack

They have the same driver

AlexHD The 668's with the new pads are perfect for budget gaming.

Z Reviews What would be a good alternative for the Hifiman ear pads? I need them shipped to the UK and sadly they don't :(. Anything of Amazon.UK would be great

I have very little of an idea. Take this to redidt and /r/headphones. There are some brits there that can probably help.

Same, I'm stuck with razer krakens 😬🤕

But I also have sennheiser hd4.40bt though. They are pretty good so far, comfortable, good quality sound. The sound range isn't huge, but overall nice headphones.

+Eck Many people complain of the lack of bass on the hd598. That headphone need a burn in at loud volume level with bass heavy song to make the bass neutral. Thats why people complaining, and said that burn in is a myth.

+Eck Hey, what kind of mic you use for the HD 598's?

+Eck How about HD439's? They are similar and I just recieved them

Arod24 I don't have the 598s but you can get something called a 'modmic' which seems to be magnetic and can stuck onto the side of your headphones.

Derrick Keough I went with the Fidelio X2s. Have had them for a week or so now.

i have a pair of the 250 ohms and i love them. the bass is punchy and surprising and the soundstage is pretty damn good, probably some of the best headphones you can get for the $150 price range. they're also comfortable as FUCK

Do you use an amp for them?

I use a pair of DT990s 32Ohm without an amp or anything. They're fucking awesome, I'm hearing footsteps incredibly well. Also they really dont leak a lot of sound

dt990 for gaming, not music is where the shit is at . they can be used for comeptitive , because treble is so high you can hear all the footsteps lol. and can be used for fun , cause the bass is punchy and thumpy so it's the best of both

@@abeplus7352 dt990 bass is better than dt770 pro?

+Santos Santiago Had my 280's for 9 years. Used them daily until the drivers ripped and started to rattle. 668's will be a huge departure from them that is for sure. Make sure to get the addon pads or the comfort and soundstage won't be 100%.

Thanks for replying back and the suggestion. Yeah, I had mine for about as long. They were built to last, that's for sure. I'm definitely looking forward to ordering them. Could you give me lick for the addon pads. Thanks again. Stay positive.

***** The 2000x or any from the Air Lineup would probably work really well.

Z Reviews it probity sounded like I was bashing your video sorry and thanks

***** I personally own a pair of ATH AD-500x. They are very nice. Thank you Zeos.

Z Reviews I'm currently tossing between the mad dogs and the dt 770pros for gaming and musical listening what do you reckon?

Mad Dogs. Less screwball a response curve.

Bill Zheng Competitive gamers are also known to run 800x600 on 15" crt's. I think we can agree we would like to enjoy playing our games a BIT vs gaining a 1.3% advantage. Nobody here puts food on the table with their K/D.

+Tom Jones Did you buy them?

Yeah been using them for a few months for everyday computer use and gaming and they work great.

+Tom Jones are they so great?? So can easily be in the same range with High end headphones of 120-150€??

I can't honestly answer that. I'm not an audiophile and these are the first real headphones I've purchased. No regerts though.

+Tom Jones well are they comfortable? With stock pads?

Oberone Kenobi It is coming. Same as the 600's.

Z Reviews YES.

Z Reviews Thanks!!!! btw. i like you way to say: this one you when get them Sucks!

***** eggcellent

bluetooth is terrible for gaming

990 pros are better

well of course they are

Not rly

Lol nvm I shouldve watched the rest of this video xD

and ? Did you reply afterall or not ?