What Men & Women Want | with Nina Power

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Benjamin A Boyce

Benjamin A Boyce

3 жыл бұрын

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@JA_dusk
@JA_dusk 3 жыл бұрын
Gratitude is the opposite of resentment.
@CR055FIRE
@CR055FIRE 2 жыл бұрын
forgiveness*
@kovala
@kovala 3 жыл бұрын
Nina seems like she has such a great head on her shoulders. Real down to earth, wise, and kind presence. Interested in ascertaining Truth as opposed to accumulating Power. Really refreshing.
@pointcuration1278
@pointcuration1278 3 жыл бұрын
I think an opposing direction to resentment is gratitude. Its difficult in the moment to be thankful for hardships you only later learn were blessings, but over time you can develop perspective.
@jsgdk
@jsgdk 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is valuable.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 3 жыл бұрын
You’re valuable.
@abualamgir1679
@abualamgir1679 3 жыл бұрын
I like your channel. Interesting conversation. I’m a bit of a lefty. I attended an event she spoke at. She’s a lefty yet they tried to cancel her for being a “TERF”. Look forward to her book.
@NiinaSKlove
@NiinaSKlove 3 жыл бұрын
- One shot of tequila for every time she says *you know.* 😏 - Interesting conversation. Interesting topic. 🤓👍🏼
@philosophypig
@philosophypig 3 жыл бұрын
Aaargh! I really wish I could stop doing this...
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 3 жыл бұрын
Be grateful you don’t have the like like like disease.
@ty2010
@ty2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosophypig Random thoughts to follow: What if you're really concerned that the person is following the line of thought you're presenting? People are against CRT because they lost the C a long time ago, we do need more empirical de/reconstruction as you are doing, the C. My idea for a great podcast - You, Aydin Paladin and Jennifer Moleski. Philosophical, statistical and social dynamic viewpoints converge on the dumpster fire of modernity.
@Antonette59
@Antonette59 3 жыл бұрын
I am at the tail end of the boomer generation & I wish they would all retire as well. Especially the politicians.
@greggharmston8992
@greggharmston8992 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I can’t wait to watch this one! Nina is brilliant.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
nah, she's a pleasant mid-wit, "brilliant" should be reserved for exceptional people.
@greggharmston8992
@greggharmston8992 3 жыл бұрын
naughteedesign Nah, you just aren’t familiar enough with her other stuff on Philosophy etc
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@greggharmston8992 well so far she's repeated classic lies from feminists that are easily debunked, so i trust you'll excuse me while i reserve judgement on your _brilliant_ label. cheers nd
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@greggharmston8992 btw: i will check out her work, she seems nice enough and i'm always interested in a bit of philosophy.
@tarak9412
@tarak9412 3 жыл бұрын
I so loved the gen x part! As another gen x’r, it’s exactly the same on my end, trying to get the boomers to not be so mad at the kids, and reminding the kids that life is not everything they see in this one moment. What a great ending to an fascinating philosophical discussion! Loved it.
@user-mt2co8ip4u
@user-mt2co8ip4u 2 жыл бұрын
I love Ms Power's work, she's wonderful. Great interview as always!
@antonia6059
@antonia6059 3 жыл бұрын
My gen z sister is so level headed and amazing!
@brentgoodman4401
@brentgoodman4401 3 жыл бұрын
And yet another great interview Mr Boyce!!!
@Klute1977
@Klute1977 3 жыл бұрын
Always great to hear from Nina, can't wait for her new book!
@basscataz
@basscataz 3 жыл бұрын
On the gen x topic, one interesting point that I recently learned is that gen x in the US only contains about 40 million people while both of the two generations on either side of gen x contain about 80 million. They were the smallest generation, and by a lot.
@DrGingerHamster
@DrGingerHamster 3 жыл бұрын
Gen X were a bunch of whiners...and they're the parents of the new crop of super whiners.
@led7691
@led7691 3 жыл бұрын
I love Nina!! Looking forward to watching just too excited!
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused over what I wanted for dinner until Benjamin found posh Nina to tell me men want pizza. It was delicious. Cheers to Benjamin and posh Nina.
@georgecrompton8663
@georgecrompton8663 3 жыл бұрын
She's really not that posh just well spoken and British
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgecrompton8663 She is 42 and looks 18 despite the booze. Only the posh can pull that off.
@georgecrompton8663
@georgecrompton8663 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebibosez7949 I'm a British working class northerner in my forties and i know plenty of women in their forties who are very well preserved,By British standards i would say she's lower middle class.
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgecrompton8663 At last I have triggered a class struggle in Benjamin's comment section! Nina kept her "h"s up for more than an hour. Not even fresh Prince 'arry, who once dressed as 'itler, can do that. You might also consider that I was using "posh" ironically in annoyance at her presuming to tell us what men want.
@andyjarman4958
@andyjarman4958 3 жыл бұрын
She already told you she's Irish, surely you could tell by her lilting brogue? Very important to identify with the oppressed just in case you are mistaken for gammon.
@TheGiantRobot
@TheGiantRobot 3 жыл бұрын
Good talk. I like how Nina acknowledges everyone. It's really refreshing.
@car0lm1k3
@car0lm1k3 3 жыл бұрын
i love her! i am absolutely going to follow her now!
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 3 жыл бұрын
I love Benjamin’s ability to steel man both sides of the argument. Well done.
@Teddypally
@Teddypally 3 жыл бұрын
Steel man is to use fallacies so that translates to how he's so confused that he can agree to two conflicting arguments.
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 3 жыл бұрын
@@Teddypally That’s not what steel man means. Come correct if you’re going to correct me Teddy.
@Teddypally
@Teddypally 3 жыл бұрын
@@guthrie1181 Tell me what you think it means and I'll show you how, in your own words, you're likely agreeing with me :D
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 3 жыл бұрын
@@Teddypally To steel man your opponents argument is to present their case for them as best you can, or better than they can. Jordan Peterson, and Sam Harris do this often. So does Benjamin. It’s the opposite of a straw man.
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 3 жыл бұрын
@@MentoDaSheep He is presenting his argument, and the opponents argument. That’s honorable.
@susanmatthews4133
@susanmatthews4133 3 жыл бұрын
That was a really lovely conversation with Nina
@CheeseKransky12
@CheeseKransky12 3 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting conversation
@meridians_
@meridians_ 3 жыл бұрын
You're on fire, Benjamin.
@SajberVanderlast
@SajberVanderlast 3 жыл бұрын
Love Nina Power!
@PaulSalamoneComedy
@PaulSalamoneComedy 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see Nina on here :)
@renatojohnsson5548
@renatojohnsson5548 3 жыл бұрын
You're 42! Wow. I will check out your podcast, and your books.
@Philosophyoftruth_
@Philosophyoftruth_ 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast. I used this in my disso. 🙏🏾
@umasordini9843
@umasordini9843 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see what men want. Interesting question to ask. Maybe I will finally get an answer for the questions I ha
@manitobafisherman
@manitobafisherman 3 жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope you’ll have her back. I don’t even care what you guys talk about really, too guys are just a delight to listen to. Cheers from a fellow gen x’er
@jaghayek5005
@jaghayek5005 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say your voice is relaxing asf
@GalaxyGal-
@GalaxyGal- 3 жыл бұрын
He should start an asmr channel imo
@renny6151
@renny6151 3 жыл бұрын
It really is.
@eveeve9758
@eveeve9758 3 жыл бұрын
More of this please
@z853c7
@z853c7 3 жыл бұрын
1:07:18 'Anthro-Pope' LOL slip of genius
@Nagutama
@Nagutama 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated but when are you gonna start an asmr or maybe a guided meditation podcast ajsjssj
@bartoszlubczonok2941
@bartoszlubczonok2941 2 жыл бұрын
I read her translation "Badiou on Beckett" many years ago. Lovely, cheerful, intelligent woman. I also read elsewhere that she was cancelled! by the comformist-reactionary mob. She appears to be on the Althusser-Lacan-Badiou-Girard axis, which is basically the same as my own ideological orientation. Seems we're moving toward the situation wherein the only people that will NOT be cancelled will be the ILLITERATE! But, then again, I guess that is, after all, the idea. The terminal truncation of the species.
@fiveleavesleft6521
@fiveleavesleft6521 3 жыл бұрын
I think I slightly fell in love during this podcast (not with you Boyce).
@rachelk5272
@rachelk5272 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s say this about mansplaning, why is it a bad thing that someone would want to share information with you? If anything they are telling you bc they think you can understand it. I think it’s a compliment that someone would share information they could otherwise just keep the information to themselves
@dwindeyer
@dwindeyer 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's a case of explaining without first asking if the explanation is required. I still don't think this is a one way phenomenon though. Everyone splains to everyone else at some point.
@paratoxsick4517
@paratoxsick4517 3 жыл бұрын
The actual definition of the word ''mansplaining'' is: It's a word which has the purpose of stating as if it is fact, that the person being accusesd of mansplaining is beneath at a spiritual level, beneath the level of the person using the word mansplaining, beneath them intellectually, beneath them in therms of ethical development. So if you say: "You're mansplaining." -What you're saying is: ''I am spiritually, ethically and intellectually above you. I'm at a higher moral plane and you don't dare speak to me, unless I ask you, because you are a subordinate piece of human filth.''
@Amesang
@Amesang 3 жыл бұрын
Nina "REAL ULTIMATE" Power
@Derolo808
@Derolo808 3 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears.
@treesart6914
@treesart6914 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I always find myself in the company of younger or older persons, but I guess that now I've finally found a way of "being around" (in a kind of weird one-directional way) people of my own generation here :)
@snakedogman
@snakedogman 3 жыл бұрын
What an interesting as well as absolutely lovely and charming guest. And even though I'm sure it's very sexist to say, Nina looks absolutely gorgeous and I cannot believe she is 42. She's not single is she? ;)
@bartoszlubczonok2941
@bartoszlubczonok2941 2 жыл бұрын
Gratitude is only kind of the opposite of ressentiment. I think it's more accurate to say that the opposite of ressentiment is generosity. "Gratitude" implies too much of a static position. I prefer generosity as the antonym. Generosity would include gratitude, but goes further.
@evgeny9965
@evgeny9965 3 жыл бұрын
Well obviously men want the pomegranate and woman want the fig while gay men want the fig and gay women want the pomegranate. As for the rest it seems I think they crave the leftovers.
@renny6151
@renny6151 3 жыл бұрын
Straight men and straight women. LGB aren’t a different category of men and women.
@evgeny9965
@evgeny9965 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that but I didn’t say that.
@camsonnenberg4399
@camsonnenberg4399 3 жыл бұрын
Critical thinking is problematic, because it disrupts my preconceptions and ideology.
@youcantdiealonewithcats
@youcantdiealonewithcats 3 жыл бұрын
@17:55 great point
@girlonfire00net
@girlonfire00net 3 жыл бұрын
All people, no matter what, should be respected. If this is not your rule, you are in need of help.
@jackdeniston59
@jackdeniston59 3 жыл бұрын
...up until they shouldn't
@girlonfire00net
@girlonfire00net 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackdeniston59 That is the point. Is it not? Until.... If you have a line, what is it? Are you sure "you" are correct?
@Tevildo
@Tevildo 3 жыл бұрын
@@girlonfire00net How about "until their actions harm others"?
@joshua_ch
@joshua_ch 3 жыл бұрын
Why ? That is not some law of nature, it is a social construct and a very recent one at that. It is part of a necessary moral narrative for large societies to function but it is not some self evident truth.
@friedmandesigns
@friedmandesigns 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshua_ch Joshua, I really dig the comments you've thrown down on this vid. But isn't that self-evident by the time a homo sapien is like, 5 or 6 years old? Regardless of upbringing? A young child quickly learns that if they hit another child, they're possibly gonna get hit back. And it hurts. And seeking comfort and avoiding pain is *very much* a law of nature for nearly all creatures. So although "respect" is not a law of nature, it's a pretty empirical human experiment a young human can vet for themselves until they have self-evidenced that something as basic as physical expression of disrespect subjects one to pain and lack-of-comfort. I'd assert that does become self-evident shortly after the time one realizes they can interact with the dimension around them, and not just exist as a passive observer of it.
@girlonfire00net
@girlonfire00net 3 жыл бұрын
I think Humanism is wrong, we people are not as powerful as we think even as a total. Hubris! The whole climate debate is a PERFECT example.
@Cyberplayer5
@Cyberplayer5 3 жыл бұрын
19:00 Ha Ha Benjamin hears a "Who". Dr. Seuss I choose you. This is just so appropriate for appropriation.
@andyjarman4958
@andyjarman4958 3 жыл бұрын
Birds love it.
@marna_li
@marna_li 3 жыл бұрын
@boyce Have you talked about what happened to actress Gina Carano for challenging the woke ideology of Lucas Film/Disney/Hollywood? I would like to hear your take on that. Perhaps she would like to be interviewed by you.
@snakedogman
@snakedogman 3 жыл бұрын
That would be very cool!
@umasordini9843
@umasordini9843 3 жыл бұрын
What I want to know, is how men really feel, about women. And is sex only about satisfying desire, or is there more to it than that for men?
@daveldma
@daveldma 3 жыл бұрын
They're alright I guess.
@friedmandesigns
@friedmandesigns 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveldma W0t terrence said. They're groovy. Some are soft. Some aren't. Some bake better chili-mac than I do. Most don't. Sex is cooler to have than not. Is that empirical? Not sure i helped much. %-p Cheers.
@dwindeyer
@dwindeyer 3 жыл бұрын
I think the answer is both depending on the person. Given the variety of driving factors and the fact that we can't read minds (People lie and also often don't understand why they truly took a certain action) means this is always going to be quite a fuzzy area.
@renny6151
@renny6151 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a guy, but I can’t speak for straight men, because I’m not interested in women.
@brittybee6615
@brittybee6615 3 жыл бұрын
I read a book written by a marriage and sex therapist once who said he basically thinks it changes, not just for men, depending on the level of, what he calls, self-differentiation. Which is basically like maturity. Anyway I think described like six different levels from like predatory to spiritual communion.
@debless9572
@debless9572 3 жыл бұрын
Binary vs non binary is a binary 😂
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes teespring.com/shop/gender-is-fun-mug
@debless9572
@debless9572 3 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike 😆
@weeb3277
@weeb3277 3 жыл бұрын
@32:49 what you described is usually is what MRAs are about. MGTOWs usually draw upon from personal experience with several women.
@andyjarman4958
@andyjarman4958 3 жыл бұрын
What they are talking about is accomodation fatigue. People have been brow beaten into becoming supine hosts for the marketing machine. They have begun attempting to evade being pigeon holed for consumerism's purposes.
@psylentps6577
@psylentps6577 3 жыл бұрын
Gen X apathy and irony could save the world but we don't know and can't really be bothered and nobody will listen to us anyway so...
@DrGingerHamster
@DrGingerHamster 3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest. The time for 'listening' to the MRA point of view is long past. The time now is to ACT. And since much of what MRAs say would be perceived as removing special privileges from women (when it fact it would only equalize certain things such as divorce court, child custody, alimony, reproductive rights, domestic violence, etc) whatever they say, no matter how well researched, no matter how much facts, data, and evidence brought to the table, none of that will be heard except heard as an attack on women. I think we all understand by now, it's not equal rights femin_ists 'fight' for, it's special privileges available only to women, and at the expense of men and children. So, any mention of these privileges is immediately painted as an attack. In other words, the MRAs have some good points. But nothing is ever going to change as long as women perceive they are 'losing' some special privilege. Of course, if men were to have special privileges, there would be an unending thunderous roar to take those away, to 'make it fair'. But that type of thing is a one way street. Equal rights is unidirectional.
@DrGingerHamster
@DrGingerHamster 3 жыл бұрын
Nota Bene: You'll never hear even a main stream fem_inist point out the disparity in college enrollment favoring women byt a 3:2 ration and that needs to be adjusted for 'equality'. That is never going to happen. Inequalities that benefit women are perfectly acceptable. Inequalities that favor men, the worst thing ever and we need to smash the patriarchy. It's frankly amazing.
@fiveleavesleft6521
@fiveleavesleft6521 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrGingerHamster I often ask fe-minists "at what percentage does the educational disparity between men and women become a problem? 35-65%? 30-70%? 10-90%?. Tumbleweeds or the usual mudslinging and deflection.
@DrGingerHamster
@DrGingerHamster 3 жыл бұрын
@@fiveleavesleft6521 Well, it's never a 'problem' if it favors the wammmens. Then it's perfectly fine)
@freddieoblivion6122
@freddieoblivion6122 3 жыл бұрын
She's right about the fear - I've had women cross the street when they see me coming. What are they afraid of exactly? That I might say hi even though I'm not Christian Grey??
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
they've been brainwashed by feminists, it starts early usually by their single mother and reinforced by every teacher , advertisement and movie from there.
@antonia6059
@antonia6059 3 жыл бұрын
Women should have a healthy amount of fear of men. Especially strangers, men are physically stronger and the more aggressive of the sex’s. So it’s important to be aware of your surroundings and be somewhat cautious. Men shouldn’t take it personal. You may know that your a nice guy but there’s no way a random stranger could know. I’ve been followed while using public transit or walking to work by strange men. It’s really unsettling.
@DrGingerHamster
@DrGingerHamster 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonia6059 I'm certain it is, for sure. However, men are usually the victims of male violence, more so than women. I think most people have a 'rational' fear of strange men. The problem is, women today, despite all the evidence that stranger r_pe activity is single digits of the number of reported acts like this today. Been steadily declining for decades, and that's great. So, is it rational to fear all men? I don't think so.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
​ @Tegwen Jaimes yes, it is the men that are part of your group that will protect you, i agree. be careful which strangers you welcome into your country/society... looks over to europe.
@treesart6914
@treesart6914 3 жыл бұрын
Women are treated badly by men in the street since a young age and they don't know if you are a nice guy or not, so in order to avoid a difficult situation they just prevent any possible interaction by crossing the road. For example, some men will start talking and then you can't get rid of them and they might attack you. I know of two women who this happened to....men who initiated a conversation in the street followed them home (actually, a third one was myself). One ended up being forced to give the man a handjob to get rid of him. You've got to realize that men are a lot stronger generally and this friend was a small woman and she was hoping to avoid a physical confrontation because she was well aware that he could seriously overpower, beat, kill, rape her. He left after the handjob. She was still violated but avoided something more serious. If simply crossing the street avoids the possibility of a situation like this then it's the easy to just cross the street. Women are well aware of the physical threat men pose to us. It is nothing personal because we can't tell who the bad guys are until the bad thing happens. It's also not a 'thinking all men are bad', it is simply a matter of safety. Resentment starts building though because living your life by kind of bending your habits around men because of a need for safety (and then hearing men not understanding why you are afraid) is extremely limiting to your movements and very frustrating.
@joshua_ch
@joshua_ch 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these discussions seem to miss something very fundamental and animalistic in the reality of male physical advantage. The fact is that all the progress of feminism/humanism/social progress etc, can actually be overturned by a few thousand young men if they decide to do that as was shown by ISIS or is seen in the dynamics of towns dominated by cartels or streets by gangs. It may hurt peoples feelings but all social progress is frankly always at the mercy of young male revolt and that reality won't change, in that regard i think feminists are quite right in their fear of men. I think a lack of gratitude from women and society in general to them for having laid down this weapon and societies' entitlement to this outcome is in my opinion the slightly deeper source of resentment from men {especially younger men} as a group.
@JeffCaplan313
@JeffCaplan313 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who's directly observed extremists, I concur with this 1000%.If the left doesn't get a grip, American ISIS (an amalgamation of Patriot Boys and Q followers) is going to overturn the entire table by 2024 or 2028.
@fiveleavesleft6521
@fiveleavesleft6521 3 жыл бұрын
ISIS were motivated by the belief that 72 virgins were waiting for them once they were martyred. Antifa in the US have a similar motivation (most sjw's being female they are just peacocking their virtue). Having been brought up in the British working class it is an unpalatable truth that the easiest way to be popular with the ladies is to be considered "hard" or a bit dangerous. How many sensitive nice guys are there in female romantic fiction/ 50 shades of grey etc? Men are still uber masculine/violent because women reward those behaviours with sex.
@aidansevern3134
@aidansevern3134 3 жыл бұрын
She's 42?!
@carlosmelo5211
@carlosmelo5211 3 жыл бұрын
Was I just...was I just listeing to completely sane person on youtube???
@andyjarman4958
@andyjarman4958 3 жыл бұрын
When someone 'identifies' as Irish, yet speaks about Critical Theory in Received English with an Esturine lilt it sets my teeth on edge. Deeply cynical about the middle class who want to distance themselves from their mileu. Obviously I've read too much Orwell.
@RaefonB
@RaefonB 3 жыл бұрын
You're likely right that it's a cynical move by the English middle-class to claim a victimhood identity point or similar. I can understand why it riles you up, especially if you're Irish yourself? But there could be something else, more honest and less shady, behind it - such as if both her parents were Irish but she was raised in England, so maybe feels she doesn't want to reject that part of her heritage. It can be weird for people like that, e.g. on those optional demographic sections of surveys, when you're asked to choose between White British or White Irish - someone with one White British parent and one parent of another ethnicity/nationality would be expected to indicate that...so should you do it too? Pure speculation, and I'm totally biased, as someone raised in England with a Scottish mum and Irish dad. Both sides casually hate on/joke about the English, so it can feel alien for someone raised in that environment to identify as fully English themselves. Not a big deal. But I admit I sometimes play that card, and feel entitled to play that card, when accusations about my "English history of colonialism", etc., etc., are thrown at me. (But we were all skint as fuck, so I don't have the middle-class card in my deck.) :D
@michaelstanwick9690
@michaelstanwick9690 3 жыл бұрын
"Men are responsible for most interpersonal violence". I think this should have been examined in more detail. Was she going to say "...against women" before Benjamin interrupted her? For example, at this page empathygap.uk/?p=2952 we have various cited studies... I can't comment on the veracity of these studies but thought they could be mentioned just to add a word of caution to the above quote...
@mishmish9103
@mishmish9103 3 жыл бұрын
Now add robberies, assaults, shootings, rapes and murders
@michaelstanwick9690
@michaelstanwick9690 3 жыл бұрын
@@mishmish9103 Irelevant. The issue is interpersonal partner violence and all that entails. She was not commenting on those behaviours.
@andyjarman4958
@andyjarman4958 3 жыл бұрын
Star Trek, their cameras are HUGE, and their communicator brooches could easily be fitted with one using crappy old 21st century tech. It's ruining the Cannon for me. Sorry, I've probably just ruined it for you too!
@evgeny9965
@evgeny9965 3 жыл бұрын
BB stop oogling .
@weltschmerski
@weltschmerski 3 жыл бұрын
He be crushing so hard
@joshua_ch
@joshua_ch 3 жыл бұрын
Why stop ? She is quite cute and he had a perfect excuse as the interviewer looking at the screen.
@carolinacrane1
@carolinacrane1 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Nina Power hasn't been mansplained enough to know that it has nothing to do with someone talking excitedly about a subject they are interested in. Not being on the receiving end doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
@carolinacrane1
@carolinacrane1 3 жыл бұрын
@Bob Charles How can 'women... disagree with [my] interpretation' when they are not there to see or experience particular events? Who are these women? These wise, omniscient beings. Why are you trying to argue against something I haven't said, or do you have small repertoire of straw man arguments ready at hand? Explaining things without being asked is not mansplaining. A man talking down to a woman in a creepy and condescending manner about something she clearly already understands, is mansplaining. These men would never dare to speak to another man in such a way. It would be offensive, obnoxious behaviour. As I said, not being on the receiving end does not mean it doesn't exist.
@fiveleavesleft6521
@fiveleavesleft6521 3 жыл бұрын
@Cerulean Blue Having had the misfortune to do a fair bit of internet dating, two of the most common requirements demanded in women's profiles are that men be "confidant" and "assertive". Although the feminist orthodoxy we currently live under would never admit it, male behaviour is largely shaped by female sexual selection. In other words (as touched on by Nina Power above) mansplaining is just men's attempt to appear confidant, competent and knowledgeable in order to impress women. More often than not it works. Like most feminist bugbears, the quickest way for women to change "toxic" male behaviour is to flock around shy, socially awkward, self-deprecating, unconfident men. I take it you will be the first in the queue?
@weeb3277
@weeb3277 3 жыл бұрын
@35:55 we do what we have done for thousands of years. we go our separate way. funny how that thought never occurs to most people. If poles don't want to live around Germans would you force them to live together?
@treesart6914
@treesart6914 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...go our separate way. But mgtow is that they never actually do, for some reason. They always seem to pop up with some complaint about women, instead of just letting it go and concentrating on their new, separate way of living. To me they seem to not be honest about wanting to go their own way.
@eveeve9758
@eveeve9758 3 жыл бұрын
“Mansplaining” is not quite that though is it. It’s a specific way of inserting an opinion into a conversation with an assumption that you know best.
@friedmandesigns
@friedmandesigns 3 жыл бұрын
So, it's "homo sapien-splaining." Because point to me the human that offers someone else an opinion, and doesn't think that their opinion being offered -- at least multiple times in one's life -- isn't "more valid" than the one they're opining to. ;) Neither XX/XY genotype has an exclusive on thinking they know best. It is hard-coded into our nature via survival mechanisms.
@eveeve9758
@eveeve9758 3 жыл бұрын
@@friedmandesigns IME it’s much more common from men, maybe that’s why 😀
@Cyberplayer5
@Cyberplayer5 3 жыл бұрын
13:45 So if we live in a post virtue era is that why there is some much virtue signaling...XD
@Teddypally
@Teddypally 3 жыл бұрын
She's at the 5(narrative) - 6(hypothesis) mode. She has not figured out the words she uses are based in emotions so the hypothesis model doesn't work as well as it might.
@Teddypally
@Teddypally 3 жыл бұрын
@Arwyn Funny, that's my advice to her. :D
@Teddypally
@Teddypally 3 жыл бұрын
@@MentoDaSheep She expressed "people won't learn unless they can ask questions". That would be the expression of a hypothesis. However, she expresses no measurements for what learning is, that would be the expression of definitions.
@Teddypally
@Teddypally 3 жыл бұрын
@@MentoDaSheep Oh, and the narrative is people ask questions and learn.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
"men seem to be really being punished by _certain section_ of the media..." LOL! A CERTAIN SECTION OF THE MEDIA! BWAHAHAHA fascinating to get these perspectives benjamin directly from the minds of these poor indoctrinated souls. you should definitely get on either janice fiamengo, paul elam or tom golden, they often get together to discuss the topic and are excellent and qualified representatives of the movement who will entice and enthrall your audience.
@lancewalker2595
@lancewalker2595 3 жыл бұрын
I think she was perfectly respectable. I agree that he should speak to everyone you listed, not that I necessarily agree with them (Paul Elam is a little much for my liking).
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@lancewalker2595 oh no doubt, pleasant even. paul elam being "a little much" understatement of the century ! :) but speaks the truth and not ideological claptrap he learnt while being indoctrinated in "academia" cheers nd
@lancewalker2595
@lancewalker2595 3 жыл бұрын
@@naughteedesign He should definitely speak to Warren Farrel.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@lancewalker2595 love the man but he's way too soft (when farrel and elam talk they have to do it via online if they met in person they'd collapse the universe). although thinking about it, perhaps farrel would be perfect for benjamin, he can talk about his cancelation by the feminists he supported back when cancellation wasn't even a thing. a magnificent, lovely and morally consistent man!
@SuperMarion61
@SuperMarion61 3 жыл бұрын
Unless I misheard (sorry, was distracted with checking e-mails at the same time) did Nina say or imply men were not responsible for crime/attacks /violence towards women, there was more male on male violence? If so, I disagree strongly, has she not seen the figures on women in this the UK alone, at least 2 women murdered a week, by current or ex male partners. Just this week a serving male police officer has been arrested for kidnapping & murdering a 33 year old woman in London? Many males despise women, they are physically stronger & so women (those that don’t die) are attacked physically & emotionally by men, often their partners.
@daveldma
@daveldma 3 жыл бұрын
How many men are murdered by men in a week in the UK?
@philosophypig
@philosophypig 3 жыл бұрын
I posted a reply here, but it didn't show up, perhaps because I had a wiki link. Not sure what youtube rules are. In any case, my point is *not* that men don't hurt women, they certainly do, and at massively higher rates than women hurt men. But most intra-personal violence (including suicide) is male-on-male. I am interested in how violence can be decreased across the board, not to deny that one kind of violence is worse than another. For example, if you look at the homicide statistics according to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics: Male offender/Male victim 65.3% Male offender/Female victim 22.7% Female offender/Male victim 9.6% Female offender/Female victim 2.4%
@philosophypig
@philosophypig 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveldma From the ONS (UK) Sex As in previous years, the majority of homicide victims in the year ending March 2019 were male. Just under two-thirds were male victims (64%) and just over a third were female (36%).
@renny6151
@renny6151 3 жыл бұрын
Men are so violent, but why? If you are a man and you are not violent, they look at you as “not a real man” or try to put you in the “woman” category.
@daveldma
@daveldma 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosophypig I was looking at domestic homicide stats a few year ago (I think they were from the department of justice) and from what I remember the male on female domestic homicide was about twice as high as female on male domestic homicide. I was surprised because people don't seem to talk about female perpetrated domestic homicide much at all. I sort of had the impression it would be lower than it was in the stat.
@funincluded
@funincluded 3 жыл бұрын
Gee who does all this manipulation and seeding of resentment 🤫🇮🇱
@Matt24002
@Matt24002 3 жыл бұрын
Initial comments are kind of a shitshow on this one.
@virginiacharlotte7007
@virginiacharlotte7007 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's not looking good! Can't say that this interview grabbed me as being particularly insightful. It could be my overtired end-of-the-working-week brain, but it just seemed like one of Benjamin long and rambling scatter pattern interviews that can happen from time to time on this channel.
@Neucleus
@Neucleus 3 жыл бұрын
Just because heterosexual women like being property doesn't mean every other woman does.
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