What Punk REALLY Thinks About Ed In Street Fighter 6...
Рет қаралды 41,055
5 ай бұрынPunk recently made some big moves at Tampa Never Sleeps this past weekend by showing off Ed's potential at a large tournament - even going as far as using Ed to take down iDom in Loser's Finals. But does he really think Ed is the next broken character of the game? Kizzie Kay and Punkdagod break down his strengths and flaws in the Street Fighter 6 meta so far!
Do you agree with Punk's thoughts on Ed so far? Comment down below!
Subscribe!
/ @fightinggameselect
Video edited by Theivid: / theivid
Thumbnail by Justn: / justingameow
Kizzie Kay
/ @kizzie_kay
/ kizzie_kay
/ kizziekay310
PunkDaGod
/ @punkdagod
/ punkdagod
/ punkdagod
About Us:
We are Fighting Game Select, delivering you entertaining fighting game videos with both the best players in the world and rising stars in the community! Whether it's tier lists, reaction videos, combo trials, or exhibition matches, we're here to highlight the best about the genre and FGC community!
Fighting Game Select is a proud part of StarsYT. If you want to take your content creation to the next level check them out at: / starsytcontent
#StreetFighter6 #StreetFighter #PunkDaGod #FightingGameSelect #FightingGames #FGS #HookGangGod #KizzieKay #JustinWong
Game Tags: #StreetFighter6 #StreetFighter #GuiltyGearStrive #GuiltyGear #Tekken8 #Tekken #DragonBallFighterZ #DBFZ #Blazblue #MortalKombat #SmashBros #SmashUltimate
@dezdedez5180 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, if his low jab was cancelable and his standing jab had just a little bit more range, I would be happy.
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
That would make a huge difference too
@Xeltos 4 ай бұрын
100% His Stand MP range wise is also meh. Alot of his close range normals are poop. lol
@Stabrinality 4 ай бұрын
@@Xeltosstanding mp is fine, not every button needs to reach the moon. It really shines just flow charting off dr. Can go to jab to tick throw, can go into itself to frame trap. If you go with the frame trap you can Cr lk safe and cancel depending on block or hit. If it hits straight up on dr you get to go into hp. It's a really decent button, just not at all meant for whiff punishing. His jab need some more reach, maybe shave off some recovery on some mids to give him the chance to dp jumpers.
@DevilBatKick 4 ай бұрын
I freakin love Ed in this game and couldn't care less about how good or bad he is. He's fun as hell and that's what matters.
@Jason-ip6wq 4 ай бұрын
He got boring pretty quickly in my opinion
@A.X.N 4 ай бұрын
Yep I 100% agree, I'm having fun regardless of how strong he is. I wish he had better jabs and more reliable AA but whatever, still fun.
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
He’s the most fun on here to me, just matters if you care if you win or not
@RubeusArchos 4 ай бұрын
The possibilitys with him is there..I feel..
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
@@RubeusArchos the potential is there if they buff him. In his current state he’s only good for fun
@johnnieboy66 4 ай бұрын
When I see Kazunoko's Ed, it makes me feel he is a special character in the right hands.
@richr161 4 ай бұрын
Hall mark of Mid-tier character.
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
Nah, Kaz is just good asf at SF. Even punk got Legend with him but it’s because Punks amazing
@Mike-rt2vp 4 ай бұрын
Yeah let's make more characters that can only be played well by professionals.
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
@@Mike-rt2vp 😂😂😂
@johnnieboy66 4 ай бұрын
'@@Mike-rt2vp my point is that he's a character that isnt braindead therefore if played right and carefully using skills, he can be deadly. Not every character needs to be overpowered and easy to use like Luke. in fact, it shouldn't even be that way.
@mayonaise146 4 ай бұрын
fav ed color gotta be number 5, my biggest issue with ed is that if they make him good he'll kinda just end up playing like the other characters with a good drive rush or button out of drive rush cause rn his buttons out of drive rush are pretty bad. i hope when s2 comes they do something to really change up how chars play so they not flowcharting into the same drive rush jab or low forward drive rush
@francisayala9310 4 ай бұрын
My fav Ed Color gotta be Costume 2 Color 8. The sharp dark blue contrasts with the red gloves and Ed's blonde hair. Plus the outfit as a whole is a pretty big nod to Balrog's classic outfit from SF2
@willkershisnik5893 4 ай бұрын
Wow crazy that the characters who use the central mechanic the best are the best… dude what do you expect? It’s the central mechanic of the game, that doesn’t make them “all the same” tho
@mayonaise146 4 ай бұрын
@willkershisnik5893 wdym doesn't make them all the same, what's the difference between Ken and juri doing low forward drive rush?, if the main mechanic is used more than their unique tools then what point are you trying to make.
@mayonaise146 4 ай бұрын
Like any pro will tell you if the char doesn't have a good drive rush, can't throw loop, and doesn't have a good reversal they're bad. Doesn't that say a lot about how the game is built.
@BlackMetalVayu 4 ай бұрын
@@mayonaise146 Chun li doesn't check 2 of these and she's pretty good
@AdamJorgensen 4 ай бұрын
Whether Ed is strong or not isn't a huge issue for me. I'm generally around the middle of the bell-curve when it comes to how well I do in FGs, which means that it's not really the characters which are the limiting factor. I'm enjoying playing Ed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Manon who was the only other character that appealed so far. I managed to crawl up to Gold 5/Plat 1 with her where I proceeded to gatekeep myself at said level until I went back to playing other FGs for a bit XD As such, I'm super pleased with Ed, especially after the disappointment of AKI (Who I really wanted to enjoy but just could not get into playing, same story as Cammie). It's really nice when a character releases that you find reinvigorates your enjoyment of the game 🙂
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
It makes sense you enjoy boring Ed when you enjoyed Manon.
@Lamren 4 ай бұрын
It's not really about Ed being strong or not ultimately, but moreso that he has a lot of shortcomings that can make him frustrating/unfun to play. His combo routes are surprisingly straight forward without any sauce really, so it doesn't even feel that rewarding to put up with his issues.
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
They really hit the nail on the head with this character review. All points were great
@RubeusArchos 4 ай бұрын
Yep
@vicovico9999 4 ай бұрын
I don't get it why for some characters they completely go crazy creating some almost if not completely broken and then they care soooo much to not exagerate and end up developing characters with bad moves, unuseful buttons and such.
@Leon-bt7gw 4 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly believe that Capcom picks and chooses who they want to be top tier. And its likely due to money, like everything.
@lucidfgc9929 4 ай бұрын
It’s more so on the lines of the character already existed. Can’t change him an insane amount cause people will hate it. Gotta work with the kit that was already in place and still make him solid. Which he is
@georgehernandez2156 4 ай бұрын
They spent all the budget on getting Luke good and balancing Akuma lol
@Goblin_iRL 4 ай бұрын
@@Leon-bt7gw if it was about money aki and ed would be godlike lmao
@juffe_h1666 4 ай бұрын
@@Goblin_iRL didn’t download any of the dlc characters cause they are lackluster. AKI‘s design is cool but ye that’s it
@GenderNeutch 4 ай бұрын
Rashid is starting to shine after a couple months, given that we've even seen him progress quite far in Capcom Cup for examlpe. But I doubt AKI is going to get super strong without any further patches, and the first impressions of Ed don't seem to enthusiastic. Granted, that might change, given time, but I'm curious - what are everyone's thought on the strength of the DLC characters? As far as I'm aware, historically DLC characters used to be kinda OP (at least at first) in order to get people to buy the season passes. I don't doubt that Akuma turns out quite strong, but who knows. But I'm kinda surprised about the strength of the characters so far.
@Lexicon865 4 ай бұрын
I hope this ends with these three and that while I don't want every DLC to be OP, I hope from Akuma onwards they'd all be competent Because it'd feel weird if they eventually add say Poison or Dudley or Sagat and have them end up lackluster somehow
@topherick 4 ай бұрын
I'd be shocked if they don't buff his jab in the balance patch. If they make his rush projectile invulnerable, then he's going to be a big problem. I think the only DLC character that's not great is AKI, but thats because she feels a little underdeveloped. Rashid is fine. Ed is fine. Akuma is going to be ridiculous I'm sure.
@jayro792 4 ай бұрын
The players who know how to play AKI will tell you that she is strong. People need to learn or at least realise these unique type characters wont play how youd like them to be prepared to change your style to fit instead of saying they are trash or something.
@Digital.midori 4 ай бұрын
@@jayro792no they won’t tell you that. They’ll say she’s low mid tier at best. Theres only a few “strong” Aki players anyway. Her poison gimmick sucks, all her normals are short/stubby, few wakeup options, and her DI cancel buttons are bad
@SlaineReigns 4 ай бұрын
Honestly i feel like Ed could be strong. However that Jab makes him extremely incompetent in short ranges. That needs to be fixed imo, you cant even confirm his Blitz consistently with it. For a boxer that's just unacceptable imo.
@berimb0l076 4 ай бұрын
My gripe with ed is it feels like his hurtbox is there way before the attack happens with the flicker kick buttons, so someone throwing pokes out mid screen will beat the flickers most of the time
@A2ZOMG 4 ай бұрын
Ppl saying his up close game sucks probably aren't using his godly 2LK (f5, about the same range as shoto 5LKs but +3 on normal hit) for space traps/low button check.
@bdc_ky 4 ай бұрын
His 2lk is my oh shit button for people pressuring me too Much and it’s crazy how good it is, especially since it can combo counterhit into the h blitz
@A2ZOMG 4 ай бұрын
@@bdc_ky Yeah H.Blitz buffer is my new favorite autopilot tactic after 2LK for generic whiff punishes. But I also now make it a point to practice CH 2LK 2LK M.DP, since that's a really unusually good 5 frame hit confirm, and quite crucially it's a great mixup to stop people from mashing lows against your -1 5LP/5MP as you would otherwise attempt to shimmy.
@yuankun99 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Punk for telling the truth. I thought the same thing about Ed when I started to using him. He's fun to use if your opponent is not a experience player, but if your opponent is good, he'll know how to exploit all these Ed's weakness that you mentioned.
@AdversaryOne 4 ай бұрын
I've been playing Ed since launch as well, and I have to agree with everything you guys said. At least I can say that I really gave him an honest try. The search continues..
@RubeusArchos 4 ай бұрын
I like him.. not be under Estimated
@MrShinTensei 4 ай бұрын
Akuma is almost here!
@SlaineReigns 4 ай бұрын
My take on Ed is they really redeemed this character, both in looks and gameplay. I already loved how he played and look in sfv (he was my first char to pickup cuz he was easy. I started tail end of SFV), but IMO SF6 revitalized him for the majority of the people. His gameplay is the most unique in the game bar none and his fight style now is extremely cool to a lot of people due to him being a pure boxer. Strength-wise though, i feel like he can be strong, but his jabs are his number one downfall. Its ironic as well since he's a pure boxer, but he has the worst jab in the game. Hopefully Capcom fixes this though. Fingers crossed cuz he is my main along with Juri.
@EXFrost 4 ай бұрын
More than Dhalsim?
@A2ZOMG 4 ай бұрын
@@EXFrost Speaking of that, Dhalsim and Lily pretty easily have worse lights overall than Ed. Not that I'm trying to make this a contest, but Ed at least has realistic ways to get actual meterless oki off his LPs especially if he gets any CH (which opens up 2LK M.DP for great oki).
@Leon-bt7gw 4 ай бұрын
@@A2ZOMGYeah as a Dhalsim main it would be so cool if we could get oki from lights without* DR. I would be cool with just using an OD finisher from a light starter.
@A2ZOMG 4 ай бұрын
@@Leon-bt7gw ppl who actually confirm H Blast on standing opponents deserve some respect.
@Leon-bt7gw 4 ай бұрын
@@A2ZOMG honestly once you play hundreds of matches if becomes natural…like i ive never labed it but can do it consistently just do to experience
@salttrader4113 4 ай бұрын
Thanks guys, omitting also an overhead in a boxer to open up opponents is really lacking. Everyone can just hold down back and the only option you have is throw...
@johnrodwell2281 4 ай бұрын
I hope that Ed gets a little more cohesive whenever we get our big update. I think he is the coolest character in the game, and definitely my main and who I've been waiting on for quite a while. I don't think he's bad at all, he's just not exceptional. He feels a little unfinished to me. It seems like there's a lot of ideas going on with his kit, but they just don't quite work. I wonder if he was rushed out. I also find it incredibly strange that his backsway is what it is. He has no follow-up out of it or anything, it just seems very odd. A huge missed opportunity.
@Sevatar_VIIIth 4 ай бұрын
How tight would it be if his back killrush had a forward P-P quick forward step one two combo out of it like his forward killrush? Like back killrush- 2LP-MP or 2LP-LP.
@marcbraun5342 4 ай бұрын
I want to like him, I love his design and his animations, even his character and backstory, I want to play a boxer. On paper he's everything I wanted, even to the parts of his toolkit and how they are performed. But I can't make him work for me, it feels too clunky and I can't connect as much as I want. Some things are counterintuitive, that crouching hp isn't his normal anti air and that the medium flickers does the opposite when crouched. His moves seem to be very specific to the situation and the timing a bit too strict, stubby jabs, no overhead, only standing hk has good frames and that's one of the specific moves. I want to like and based on the character even would like to main him, I'm just not good playing him.
@NessOnett8 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate Punk saying the truth. Ed is not good. There's a small chance he could get good eventually when people "figure him out." But out of the gate, by the numbers, he's kinda awful. And I'm surprised some people are still saying he's strong. Guess that means I can look forward to buffs in the future, since I've been an Ed main for years and I love his gameplay, so I'm sticking with him. Just like...give me a better jab at least. Everything else I can live with. But that jab tho...for a BOXER?!?
@juffe_h1666 4 ай бұрын
Still a solid character tho there are worse 😅
@Ramxenoc 4 ай бұрын
Fully agree up close he's not as crazy feeling as I thought he'd be
@RightHereAndNowDLife 4 ай бұрын
Ed is seriously fun and look better than the new main character. But lack damage and close combat moves.
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
Both Luke and Ed are shit
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
Both Ed and Luke are sh-t.
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
Both Ed and Luke are garbage.
@RightHereAndNowDLife 4 ай бұрын
@Agent_A_Graham that's your opinion. So, who is better?
@Ryan-uu4tw 4 ай бұрын
Think they are just trying to play it safe with the dlc characters. I would have been angry if Ed came out, he was hands down the best character, and now everyone mains him… better off this way to start. Buffs and nerfs are on their way. Fingers crossed someday I will be able to counter hit confirm off of my ST. MK at a longer range with AKI.
@alfredososa3059 4 ай бұрын
St. Mk for Aki is such a good button but such a shame you get nothing off it at range. Hoping for a buff that'll allow for a link into the st.hp target combo off of a punish counter 🔥
@TimeSplitterChimp 4 ай бұрын
I hate his first costume but LOVE his second one, it suits what he is so much more. I have been playing again for the first time in months since he came out and really enjoying him
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
Ed looks like some fraud boxer who shadow boxes in the corner of a gym while dancing. He's corny af and lost any semblance of identity he had in SFV.
@floki859 4 ай бұрын
i really love ed, he became my main and first to hit plat, his boxing style is just great for me and i found feints can help with jump ins if you time it right as well as he has an easy combo for almost 6k if you have over 3 drive gauge and lvl 3
@lilpoetat 4 ай бұрын
thanks!
@damazsta 4 ай бұрын
2:02 He has a dash back. Thats kind of the point. 8:32 They do need to buff him tho
@saado99 4 ай бұрын
Summarizes everything I also felt about the character. Really fun, not easy and fun to use, but man the fact that hes so easy to jump in on, anti zoning tools really suck (Guile, dhalsim etc feels really hard), pressure game weak, prone to DI, terrible jabs, weak DR and also he didn't mention very weak DR normals also. Very bad pushback on the moves and frame advantage. I also really dislike his antiairs in general, for a character that's so easy to jump in on. So slow, hard to use, and also really bad against cross ups which makes it really easy to escape the corner against him. He does have strengths for sure though, his mid range actually is really good. Although like punk said, it's not that much better than other characters' normals like Luke, Chun Li, Ken, Juri etc. if not worse because again, not much reward (okay damage), big risk (jump/DI) and just in general awkward as hell. His lvl2 damage is actually really absurd honestly so he also has that going for him, but unless someone finds crazy use of it, Rashid's and JPs are definitely better.
@rickg8109 4 ай бұрын
Oh, and PS his story gives me hope for his buddy the gorilla as a future character!
@GramdalfFGC 4 ай бұрын
I obviously respect Punk’s opinion, and I’m not saying he’s wrong, he may very well be correct. However in a recent video Broski said something that hit home, that Ed is such a complex character we’re talking months before anyone figures him properly. I don’t know where he will end up on the tier list, but i think a lot of new stuff is going to be found that may influence that.
@WestLightz 4 ай бұрын
That’s the most Luke warm take possible that literally nobody would disagree with. Oh wow we need more time to really know how things will shake out. Next you’ll say water is wet and the sky is blue but broski said it so it’s profound.
@webadagrande 4 ай бұрын
months my bro hs mid range is not even that good hes close range is trash and hes a boxer all hes botton are negative and he does no damage trash drive rush
@qiyaammcclure8833 4 ай бұрын
The fact that he has no overheads is dumb they should make his superman punch a overhead
@Ironmonk036 4 ай бұрын
2:40. Punk is on point. Give him a Sway advancing movesimilar to Dudley’s move. But they probably will not since I believe Dudley will be a future DLC character. Remember he wasn’t in SFV!
@brando402 3 ай бұрын
Getting jumped in on as Ed is frustrating af especially crossups since I can’t crosscut personally
@PhonyGameCommunity22 4 ай бұрын
He can potentially become great,but only for fans that love strategy brawlers though.
@RubeusArchos 4 ай бұрын
Well I wish more would love the character but it is what it is..
@user-ei9dp4sl2o 4 ай бұрын
I agreed with everything that Punk said about Ed. His mid range game is solid but it does has some flaws but a pretty good mid-range game character but what were the game devs thinking when they design his standing and crouching punch lol? Overall, Ed is my main character because he kind of has Balrog's move sets sprinkle with Dudley's furious punches and it's a blast pulling off a huge combo with his CA 2. It does take a lot work to get a lot of damage compare to some other characters like Ryu or Ken but damn it feels rewarding doing it though. I hope Capcom comes out with a patch to change up his light punches and make him a little faster but I'm enjoying him so far.
@Mumaakil 4 ай бұрын
Ed looks and plays really good. he is actually strong pre masters but then its a different story I would put him A tier on casual list and B for pros
@kenshin391 4 ай бұрын
All I know is Dudley better be in this game next season. 👀
@invaderzortos746 4 ай бұрын
We'll see, technical character so he might end up being better than we thought. Super fun though, I'm happily maining him unless Nash gets into this game somehow
@Groovingonem 4 ай бұрын
I haven’t used him but I’ve played against him a lot. He’s solid. He doesn’t have an overhead and his startup seems slow but if he gets in or pulls you in he can be dangerous.
@deathmetalinyourface 4 ай бұрын
Well, he's the first SF6 character I'm actually interested in playing because he's a pure boxer type of character and makes me interested in learning the game because of it. I'm a total noob to SF coming from MK. The fact that he's considered a hard character to learn is probably a good thing because it'll probably level me up faster.
@stoveFGC 4 ай бұрын
You're gonna have to get good at DPs for sure but that'll help you across the whole game and if you can do that he's a blast
@jayro792 4 ай бұрын
With the way Punk likes to play, this character is definitely not for him.
@reggiemoore755 4 ай бұрын
Ed's fun I love the way his moves look the phy fire is epic af I'm not to good with him but dang is it fun and combos are pretty easy ..... once you get in
@PhonyGameCommunity22 4 ай бұрын
Ed is really an acquired taste character.He was definitely that in SF5 especially,because he's an extremely tactical Boxer,moreso than "Steve" from the Tekken series even.I only used him in Arcade Mode only so far.
@michaelcarrig627 4 ай бұрын
Fix his jab, speed up his DP and give it a slightly bigger hitbox, and give him one overhead and he would be perfect. But either way he is the most fun I have had with a character.
@TheEvilmonkey25 4 ай бұрын
He's definetly fun and I love the boxer archetilype. Ed really plays to that fantasy with flickers. With that being said I'm seitching to Ryu.
@Harroga 4 ай бұрын
Broski literally predicted this video lol
@WestLightz 4 ай бұрын
He said something obvious. Practically Nostradamus.
@Harroga 4 ай бұрын
@@WestLightz nah he said something like "someone who has a large amount of sway in the fgc will declare ed to be bottom tier or bad where that not might be true to due to his strengths not being immidiatley obvious in the first weeks of his release" or somthing like that; which is not obvious and pretty specific. Its just some food for thought that this has become pretty predictible for such a volatile game
@xravia79 4 ай бұрын
Lmao he did
@han3wmanwukong125 4 ай бұрын
@@Harroga but it's happened before. People thought JP was bad at first. Rasheed too and Blanka. I'm hoping Ed gets a boost from labbing and discovery, but he isn't dhalsim so im not so sure.
@danielesquivel8469 4 ай бұрын
@@Harroga Broski is a fucking dogshit FG player and youtuber. If you're going to let someone else think for you choose someone else
@RedLineOneGC 4 ай бұрын
So ive been playing ed since launch and hes def not easy to play...but hes fun as hell...im a defensive player so his defensive playstyle fits me...i get more mileage out of whiff punishing with him using his flicker jabs or his standing HP if im close enuff, since u can drive rush out of them... ed is horrible if his backs in the corner...mid screen is where u want to be...doesnt have many options to open up opponents in the corner since he doesnt have an overhead However, he needs space...hes best midscreen...he doesnt really have anything defensively when HES in the corner since his dp cant be reliable...also, u can jump in on ed so easily if u wiff MOST of his moves because of the recovery...like punishing for being offensive...which is painful
@MrShinTensei 4 ай бұрын
Defensive? man he is good at aggressive play style also 😎 I think he will end up an all rounder like a shoto eventually
@itsjustdorian8927 4 ай бұрын
I tend to like the simple characters … I feel like Ed is simple … he’s fun to play and it’s dope when you get that combo off…
@ZzigZaG00NIN 4 ай бұрын
They've been doing their best to make sure these DLC characters aren't too strong IIf they don't slip up with Akuma all they DLC might be pretty tame this time lol
@Azure888 4 ай бұрын
I was surprised that Punk said Ed doesn’t have good neutral when he has all those really long range moves, but fighting him online so far (with Chun) I did notice that a solid kikoken game seemed to shut down a lot of his stuff….
@kenshin220 4 ай бұрын
The long normals matter a lot less when you factor how slow they are. You can't really throw them out for free because just like he said Ed can get jumped on for free almost when trying to use them that way .
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
Your exposing your game knowledge here. It’s a well known fact that Ed has a crappy neutral game
@EDarien 4 ай бұрын
Both costumes, color 3 got the Boba Fett colors. Mostly green with accents of yellow and red. Easily favorite there. Kinda wish you could mix and match the outfits a little though. Not feeling the skinny jeans on costume 1 or the big gloves on 2. But either way it's fine. Gameplay: I have very mixed feelings on him. I think he feels like a worse Seth from SF5. His CR HP is his sweep, his CR HK is a high, his combos are similar, but you get punished for the very common muscle memory of target combo > QCF P since it'll whiff almost every time. You need to be doing blitz or flicker to finish combos, which is ok. but muscle memory messes that up a LOT for me. Similarly, his CR MK is also a high so you need to retrain muscle memory to do CR MP for any other character you would play. Making him intentionally opposite like that really doesn't do the character any favors, so to change his easier inputs on top of it just feels like a punishment to actual Ed players. And to put a further point on it, something that Broski had said was why change the kit? Why not make a new character if that's the route they wanted to go? Or else keep it similar and evolve it. Instead, he feels like a variant version of Seth to me, but missing some of his tools and not as good.
@sv32099 4 ай бұрын
I don’t want ed to take Luke’s spot as poster boy but I feel like he’d be a great spot taker for boxer or dictator for the new age like how Luke does
@TooSweaty7 4 ай бұрын
I feel ed would've made more sense.He's grabbing shadaloo and flipping it on its head and make it his own. Instead of some random dude named luke that they just dropped on us. Following neo shadaloo would be way better than following what story that luke has. Especially since shadaloo ties into the rest of the cast.
@Kasaaz 4 ай бұрын
I think they were trying to make a Street Fighter version of Slayer.
@2ndai385 4 ай бұрын
Tbh i think steve regardless how bad he is fits the boxer or even TJ combo a bit more then ed and TJ also has powers. Kinda also makes me miss Balrog and Dudley since ed is in the game. I think his aesthetics are cool but his kit couldve been crazier n funner.
@ionslicer 4 ай бұрын
It sad what they did to his close up game. He needs buffs.
@manleyfgc7981 4 ай бұрын
He has a 4f button and can link light meaties into great oki and corner carry. This is all gaslighting.
@pegeta 4 ай бұрын
Ending walker has a beastly Ed
@brettlewis2900 4 ай бұрын
Meh lvl 1,Jabs are a problem, lacks dmg, Fireball should not be a startup + another imput to send it out (or frama data just needs adjusted on it.), damage seems to be lacking, wish he had a standing overhead (can be tough to open people up when his offense seems so honest and predicable at times.) Hes fun don't get me wrong, but i feel like no pro is honestly going to take him into tournaments when so many better chars exist atm. :(
@williamalbatross4677 2 ай бұрын
Ed’s fucking sick bro. he’s dope.
@gelfeatherweight5335 4 ай бұрын
Its as tho nobody realizes that every character that's not for you is not BAD
@G-Nius87 4 ай бұрын
Nobody ever heard of outboxing (vs. inboxing)?
@rivalshinob8481 4 ай бұрын
They’re under the impression “boxer = rush”. Outboxing is such a foreign concept to them
@rodrigorodrigo1750 4 ай бұрын
in sfv he was a good.safe character with.his jbs and the 123
@kingsman5121 4 ай бұрын
I give credit to Capcom for turning Ed from one of the most braindead characters in sfv to one of the most complex characters in 6. That said it feels like he lacks the tools to compete in a game like this. Not as egregious as AKI but still not up to par. Rashid is complex in this game as well however he still manages to be good. While AKI and Ed require too much effort for not enough reward.
@MrJeffdiddy 4 ай бұрын
I wish hes superman punch was a overhead
@rickg8109 4 ай бұрын
I think character wise he’s a lot better than he was in V where I felt he was milk toast. I’m nowhere near as good as most folks but I’m glad to hear your opinions because that’s how I feel. I tried to use him like a boxer and got slaughtered. It’s only when I’m super defensive, (which isn’t my style) that I do O.K. I feel like he can be pretty good and now I’m hopeful for the next update, although I’m really hopeful to see Aki in the next update getting improved
@pricklypear3625 4 ай бұрын
"Milquetoast"
@RubeusArchos 4 ай бұрын
I agree
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
@@pricklypear3625It's both
@pricklypear3625 4 ай бұрын
@@Agent_A_Graham They're related words, but they don't have the same connotation.
@Agent_A_Graham 4 ай бұрын
@pricklypear3625 Yes they do. Milk toast inspired the usage of Milquetoast. They are interchangeable and pointing out any difference is pure semantics.
@itsjustdorian8927 4 ай бұрын
My biggest complaint is he doesn’t feel like a boxer 😂 not that good up close and bad movement 🤷🏾♂️ still a cool character
@yuankun99 4 ай бұрын
The host of this video seems like the type of guy that goes with the majority of haters. Ed was amazing in SF5. He wasn't lame at all. But of course, the majorities of haters says that he was lame and then he goes with it. I'm glad Punk kept his own opinion about Ed in SF5 about like him in that game.
@saladinbryant3653 4 ай бұрын
So far I'm loving Ed. I understand his shortcoming and try to play accordingly. I'm from the old school, so neutral and or mid range and keep away are 2nd nature to me. I'm fine with being more thoughtful and patient. I hated Ed in 5 so this is a welcome change. With a patch or 2 he could be very scary. And yes his cross up is ass lol.
@UhDewSea 4 ай бұрын
Its funny, as a GG player, Kizzie has the oddest takes for how he'd like the game buffed lol. Bro wants a 2 button anti fireball tool. If anything, his charged HP should have a just frame thing like Luke. Just charge to go through 2 hits of a fireball or full charge (since its easier) to go through one. Maybe then slightly shorten the length of frames for a charge
@alfredososa3059 4 ай бұрын
The 2 button anti fireball tool would literally just be balrogs vskill in SF5. It wouldn't be something game breaking or new to street fighter
@HungarianWarHorse 4 ай бұрын
Boxer with a bad jab?!
@joshuaellis3295 4 ай бұрын
Punk described everything i dont like about this character perfectly. I was so excited to buy him as soon as he came out but im already ready to drop him. I just cant with his stubby fucking normals anymore.
@hobbitboy4930 4 ай бұрын
Ed is super neat
@brooklyninja 4 ай бұрын
What I like about Ed's up close game being so-so and him not ducking fireballs is that this leaves room for Dudley to come back! I hope season 2 is majority Third Strike characters like Dudley, Makoto and so on.
@moeverine5024 4 ай бұрын
Shut up about dudley already
@MeanieBean 4 ай бұрын
Bless bro
@ezwolf9059 4 ай бұрын
Same I want my boy Yang back.
@agfeergaming 4 ай бұрын
idk but i see different here than other uses it like kazunoko.. I see here its not optimized use..
@kenmasters2231 4 ай бұрын
i delayed watching this video until i was ready to drop Ed. RIP sf5 Ed, fun times.
@crymeariver221 4 ай бұрын
Everyone said the same about Rashid when he came out yet mf almost took capcom cup. The character is strong. Dont believe the cap.
@3Vizo 4 ай бұрын
Vtrig 1 was better in sfv. You could get a 50/50 into huge damage.
@dwaynechang4124 4 ай бұрын
Everybody is really waiting on the star shuto Akuma like myself so they not really paying Ed NO! Attention smhh lolll
@degarri7995 4 ай бұрын
I’m always on offense with Ed and it’s prolly why I’m 1400 Mr 😂. Glad things I feel are being said here, makes me feel allot better.
@evalangley3985 4 ай бұрын
Same, I don't see Ed having a lot of strong points. His normals long reach and DR cancelable are probably his best assets. As for the rest, it is not really good.
@taureanmulkey8852 4 ай бұрын
Dope convo, love the fgc even if I been out of it for some years.
@jurisdojo23 4 ай бұрын
Weird that he pulls in people for such a weak close range game
@DonnieLove214 4 ай бұрын
I’m really not trying to make fun at all, but if they made a new family matters.. Punk would do really good.
@gigapac 4 ай бұрын
My only problem is he doesn't feel like a boxer at all because his close up game is so bad why make a boxer a zoner it doesn't make any sense
@FrankTheDoomriderJohansen 4 ай бұрын
As long as Ed has that psycho net grab + frames he gonna be broken in my book.
@Mack9077 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this for a week now, Ed is THEE coolest/funnest character but he is NOT GOOD at all. Can you win regular games with him? Yes but to bet a million on Ed? Forget it!
@thomashathorn2036 4 ай бұрын
We’ve seen Rashid really come into his own recently when he was initially considered pretty mid. So, we will just have to see. His jabs are comically bad. Which is crazy for a BOXER. But time will tell I suppose.
@Yem1010 4 ай бұрын
Got with him to Plat3 and hes ok, but as a mid poker/thats why hes "Tricky" tbh. You get close and hes toast. Hes so bad on block eveything can punish him.
@manleyfgc7981 4 ай бұрын
Thats not true. All of his buttons are safe on block at the ranges they're meant to be used at
@webadagrande 4 ай бұрын
dude? wtf are u talking about go check supercombo gg all hes botton are unsafe on block they are all - and u cannot do shit @@manleyfgc7981
@MarvelousMorrion 4 ай бұрын
Punk is right
@footmotion 4 ай бұрын
If you really like ED, you just have to wait on his upgrade like Jamie fans did. FOREVER!!!
@gelfeatherweight5335 4 ай бұрын
Lol the problem with this conversation is that its about how sucky Ed is but you're using him still
@yep8673 4 ай бұрын
Why is Ed the only character with so many weaknesses? Weak close range, weak anti-fireball, average damage, bad walk speed, slow DP, slow lvl 1 super that you can safely jab, mediocre gimmick with the charge snatcher and charged heavy. I'm just not seeing the design logic behind him, Ken and Cammy are straight up better than him at everything in SF6.
@han3wmanwukong125 4 ай бұрын
I think Capcom had an idea for a character with strong punishing mid-range characteristics, but they couldn't bring it together properly as the concept was not really explored in SF6 before. It also seems like they wanted him to strictly be mid range and ended up undertuning a lot.
@EXFrost 4 ай бұрын
Wait til you see Gief or Manon or Aki lol
@TooSweaty7 4 ай бұрын
@EXFrost Including ed these all are the characters i play, and I just can't seem to rap my head around it.
@han3wmanwukong125 4 ай бұрын
@@EXFrost should we tell him 🤔
@darkglyph3871 4 ай бұрын
I agree slash kinda disagree with Punk. I agree because he's not top tier but I've been in the lab alot with Ed and from watching punk play with ed he's only using ed to about 50-60% of his full potential. The main thing is that he's only doing half combos and I know he only said he's been playing for a week but he obviously hasn't been in the lab enough because he's missing a good amount of damgage and corner carry opportunities in his combos. Also he hasn't found ed's meaty setups in the corner yet. I wouldn't care to comment something if he said "I know I don't know Ed's best combo routes yet but from what im doing right now his damage aint that good" but he just flat out said his damage is bad which is not true. I wanted to add that just shows how good Punk is as a player because he's basically winning with Ed off just pure fighting game skill/fundamentals not character skill/knowledge
@michaelbolden3258 4 ай бұрын
He’s was tricky Had to figure him out but know after playing again he’s nothing but a food plate for Ken !!!! 😂
@Choom89 4 ай бұрын
100% agree Ed could just replace Luke and/or trade Luke for Menat.
@codetcodes 4 ай бұрын
Ed feels like he would've had Luke's slot as the MC of SF6 if he wasn't so hated in SFV. Young Cocky Blonde that has MMA moves. He has more of a story than Luke in 6 too.
@studivan 4 ай бұрын
Amazing, a month ago he was broken, today he’s not strong..
@lickarcade 4 ай бұрын
What is happening with sf6 is Capcom is scared that rushdown/mixup archetypes are going to overwhelm, scare and frustrate players- so they make them intentionally weak and do trash damage (like Ed & Kimberly). But because drive rush makes EVERY character able to rush down and get plus frames- footsie/confirm characters like deejay/Ken/Luke become MONSTERS and are going to be hard to balance. Sf6 is a good game, but I have to say the latest balance patch attempt was too little too late. I’d love to see some real effort from Capcom, rather than just dangling fan favorite characters-like Akuma- after the game’s honeymoon phase. Lame way to generate hype.
@francisayala9310 4 ай бұрын
If you're a Dev, you get multiple chances to make a character stronger. You get one chance to make a character cool. Ed's first impression to the fanbase in SF5 was terrible. He was bland and boring and it stuck with the character throughout SF5's life cycle. I'm willing to bet that the Devs put all of their focus on making him cooler and changing public opinion on him (which is hard to do) and saved making him stronger for later patches.
@bass2126 4 ай бұрын
Well said, this is legit the way to go imo, either way making DLC characters strong just so people will buy them is a cheap move & I respect capcom going with the best possible route for the DLC characters so far, tho I'm not too hopeful about Akuma, best they could do is make him strong but really risky to play.
@clackman622 4 ай бұрын
1:50
@bigdonutstudio 4 ай бұрын
Could you Imagine going from Being a Manon Main to pocketing Ed? Hahahaha 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@tiomark1172 4 ай бұрын
Not every boxer is a good boxer 😂😂
@deadlysefo 4 ай бұрын
And he lacks overhead
@BowBeforeMe 4 ай бұрын
well Ed is not an infighter, he uses flicker jabs like Thomas "Hitman" Hearns, he's strongest at mid range not up close, thats why he's trash up close
RAMAZAN
Рет қаралды 35 М.
AISHU [QL]
Рет қаралды 94 М.