Mom quietly buying a camera you reviewed to support you is lowkey the most wholesome thing I have ever seen.

I have to say, the only thing that surprised me about all of this is that Amazon didn't go looking for a buyer a long time ago. DPReview started out as primarily an enthusiast site, and then digital cameras became cheap enough to really become consumer items, so it made sense for Amazon to buy the company. Then, as phone cameras became good enough to replace dedicated cameras for most consumers, sales dropped to the point where it really no longer made sense for Amazon to keep operating a site that was rapidly returning to its enthusiast roots. But, for whatever reason, Amazon management, instead of shopping it around, decided to just shut it down. I said as much in a comment on DPReview, but it makes sense for DPReview to be spun back out, since digital photographic equipment is no longer the mass market it was for about 20 solid years from the late 1990s to the late 2010s. No other site out there has the depth of history of equipment reviews that DPReview has, and I'm constantly referring to it to refresh my memory of cameras and lenses that came out over a decade ago. I wasn't at all surprised when it was announced first that DPReview wasn't necessarily shutting down, and second that it had been bought. It's a fantastic resource, and I'm glad to be part of the community at a time when the industry is entering a new era.

I'm so grateful that DPReview is still alive. It is the site I visit more than any other.

OM Systems has bought a bunch of legitimacy in the market by sponsoring these guys. A brilliant move. Makes me trust them more as a long-term organization as opposed to a cow milking operation, and it shows that they are smart in their marketing. Kudos to OM systems. I am going to look more at them.

You three "Richard, Chris and Jordan" deserve Big Thank you. Also thanks for this video.

I just found out that DPreview is still alive. I followed an old link and was surprised it sent me to a working site. Glad you guys (Richard and team) are still up.

My guess is that Amazon was having cutbacks, and DP Review was just a line item. No context other than it was a oddity, and could be removed. After the announcement, word reached management that there was interest, that they had something of real value, and got some attention. I have seen this before, it really only take 1 person with passion, the right ears listening, and decisions can be changed. At this point, run rate had been reduced, and they could possibly recoup some of their investment, as well as stay in better graces (image) with the community. Amazon is smart enough to know that even a small thing and bite them in the future. You always want to minimize the exposure to blow back. It's telling that many of the DP Review audience looked for a successor, and didn't find anything that really fit. They even created a site that tried to mimic DP Review Forums, because nothing could effectively replace it. Glad to see DP Review Lives. And thanks to Chris & Jordan, PetaPixel is now also on my daily reading/listening list.

Love the podcast and Richard is hilarious. Please invite him regularly!

DPReview is not a website, it is a LEGEND. And I am glad the LEGEND lives on.

You three were my favorites. Phil too of course. I really got into digital photography because of DPReview, my Canon D30 was my first and not my last

Oh boy here we go!!! Richie B gonna spill the Tea!

So cool to see how passionate Richard is about what he does.

Very interesting conversation, thank you! The Chemistry between Chris and Jordan is always something I am looking forward to. But hearing Richard was great!

I really appreciate this podcast format and I hope it continues!

I worked at a camera store in the Philadelphia area, and in the late 70's our Nikon rep. would also put his cigarette out on one of his sample lenses to show how awesome the coatings were on Nikon lenses.😮

As someone on the edge of buying a Texas Leica, you were right! Big Fuji fixed lens beauties.

As sad as all mishmash has happened, and it’s really good that reality set in and people coasted onward. Maybe this is a message that all big corporations should consider when making history headlines. 😢

Love you guys and what you're doing. The podcast is a very fitting format, listened to all of them and each just flew by which is always a good sign.

@ 51:00 It's not just for 3D (stereoscopy). When compositing it can be crucial. Because of the stereoscopy you can generate / get depthmaps out of it, which can be crucial when you want to incorporate computer-generated images with whatever you shoot.

From the I look at it, DPreview will never be the same again without Chris and Jordan. When you remove your main anchor out of the equation, then the ship is practically rudderless. In time Peta Pixel will be one of the premier channel that we photographers will turn to. In short, Amazon's move to axe DPreview in the beginning is purely on a business decision. As a Nikon shooter, apart from Chris & Jordan, other channels I tune to are Ricci talks, Steve Perry, Matt Irwin, Matt Granger, Manny Ortiz and Grays of Westminster

Ah man Chris, sorry to hear of your trailer woes! Had similar with a campervan which turned out to be excessively corroded underneath - thousands spent on that van! Hope your trailer is good for some time to come now it's been fixed, glad you had a good time in it on your most recent trip

36:35 "These people look nothing alike. How could they all be suspects?!" 🤣

DPReview was/is primary source of information about digital photography. Becouse and thanks to DPReview i bought my first "real" digital camera. It wasn't anything special. But Canon G1 was very special for me. I have tried with early digital cameras. And in fact this camera was too new and to expensive to go to shop on the street to buy (in Poland). I bought without touching before. Everything was almost perfect (at that time) Since than i loved DPReview all my heart. It is a shame that it ends including great database of digital equipment history. And by Amazon which destroys everything it touches (except shop and data centers). Thank you guys for everything you have done already!

Another excellent video, and when the frame froze, suddenly I thought of the "Great White North" and Bob and Doug McKenzie.

Im so happy its survived, Ive been on it pretty much since its beginning, I remember when canon 10d review was just posted :D

I love these podcasts. So glad you guys moved.

Jordan, you can come live with us if you need refugee shelter after calling Canada Geese "garbage birds".

37:45 A 1977 Pentax K1000 was my first camera in my HighSchool photo lab. To this day I still have my own ME, MX and LX. They all could shoot better photos than I could take.

I can't speak for everyone, but personally I was actually MORE mad to see that DP Review DIDN'T close down after all and continued operating without you boys!!! It doesn't seem like you're harboring ill will toward them--and if that's true, you're better men than me!!! I'm still really heartbroken over this "breakup". It's like Mom and Dad got a divorce, started dating new people, and I'm stuck hating the new people in their lives while lamenting how things USED to be.

I love the British understatements and subtle humor.

OMG. One thing i was devo'd about losing was the Camera Timeline. That things is pure gold. I hope it is now saved! I am, however, very pissed i deleted the link in my bookmarks toolbar and didn't notice how many clicks it had got! Will miss a couple of the most recent years clicks to restore it from a backup.. i guess thats the lesser of the two evil and i'll take keeping DPR for that data loss. :P

thanks for doing this podcast!

Why not read the final goodbye letter? Do it! Let us see what it could’ve been a sad ending .

I actually have a question, do you guys intend on continuing certain reviews from when you were at DPreview? Most notably for me at least is the xh2 final review. I know y’all reviewed the xt5 and there will be a lot of carry over there, but I was really looking forward to that episode specifically, especially to see how the video features compare. I know a lot of times it’s an issue of just getting the camera to test so I understand if it would be difficult to happen, but I was just wanting to see how you guys would go about possibly continuing previous reviews.

Jordan should check out The Projection Booth. Arguably the best movie podcast.

Nice KEF R300 speaker 👍🏼

DPReview is great. I have to say, I can't always say the same thing abou the DPReview audience. I found the responses to questions so mean-spirited that I eventually adopted a personal policy to never ask a question or comment on DPReview.

Amazon has never been known for being warm and fuzzy in their business dealings. Chris and Jordan made this video I believe to,help out someone they obviously respect very much.

Bought this lens - love it for walk around use. Wouldn’t use it for pro shoot but great for leisure .

So, everybody raise their hand if you never heard of Gear Patrol before :)

1. Enjoyed this one, it’s nice having C&J running the show, tbh 2. OnlyCalves (in case no one’s made this joke yet) 3. Glad to see that the DPR crew landed on their feet.

OM1 + 150-400mm 4.5 TC pro lens here. Also have the Nikon Z8, which I use for birds and wildlife with the 500mm 5.6 pf lens and FTZ. Simply put, the OM1 outguns the Z8 and, by virtue of having the identical AF system, AI detection, frame rates and ‘pre-capture’, the Z9. It’s actually not that close, as much as the Nikon fanboys would scream otherwise. My Z8 is one of those captured by the recall but I’m having absolutely no issues attaching/locking/detaching any of my four Z lenses or the FTZ. I’ve registered the camera in the queue to send it in for inspection or repair but I think this issue may be limited to a few cameras.

Favourite episode so far!

Respect to Richard for the KEF speakers. 👍

The moment Panasonic introduces a micro 4/3 camera with phase detect autofocus (as in the S5 II), I hope for a G9 mark II, I will buy it. Waiting impatiently.

Red and Blue lights work so well for with you guys. So cool!

i was spared the horror of a future where i have to get my camera reviews from influencers. there just might be a god

Glad to see you guys continuing on. New sub to Petapixel due to you being there.

You need to interview Phil Askey!

I am always surprised that Amazon would not try to sell it in the first place and decided to just shut it down. It is a well known brand that certainly worth some money.

It's pretty obvious that the conspiracy revolves around the fact that Jordan and Chris were on the verge of discovering the formula for the perfect photography pants. It turns out that Amazon has spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars over the past twenty some odd years on exactly the same thing and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Once Amazon caught wind of how close Jordan and Chris were to achieving their goal, it immediately set off a chain reaction which is why we are here today.

Any chance of throwning up some pics of the cameras you are referencing? Down in the corner spaces, even briefly. Was watching on my tablet with a cuppa and would have been nice to see what youre talking about.

Love that you guys are doing this podcast!

Richard should join the podcast team! Lots of chemistry here

Sounds like you guys are lucky to escape a toxic work first - life balance second environment. Having been owned by Amazon I guess I can't say I'm surprised. Hope things improve for the folks left behind at DP review which I've always enjoyed.

I like that OLYMPUS XZ-1 on table.. I have one too :) Old cameras are still good if properly used. DEFINITELY WAITING FOR PENTAX K3III REVIEW :D

Really wish you guys would compress your audio more. Listening on the podcast app, it’s significantly lower and less compressed than most podcasts. When I turn off yours and go to another podcast, I nearly blow out my speakers every time. Remember, audio for video is MUCH different than audio for podcasts. Go big (& boomy) or go home. High compression is your friend

Richard is a polished but cool dude.

The Texas Leica was the Fujica G690 with interchangeable lenses and the fixed lens versions were the Fujica GW690 and GSW690. Love my GW690 mark II 😁

Still have my dad's Realistic Stereo (3D) camera ('50s). Shot film slides, and you'd buy a special projector (or handheld viewer.) Have never shot it, but also have hundreds of slides he shot. Very cool!

Jordon hold the line even in a world of deep fakers (Chris isn’t real) - be brave 😎

Glad they’re staying open. I still preordered a Fujifilm X-S20 despite you not making a video…. I forgive you….

Used gear is great. And I have gotten some real good stuff off of Kijiji. I have a 5D3 that I got for the equivalent of ~$425 US. You can have lots of fun with Magic Lantern on that! And *most* of my lenses are DSLR lenses and they're excellent on both my DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. Really great deals you can get on used stuff now. On the other hand, you get pretty funny listings from private sellers sometimes, like people trying to sell their ancient Rebels for $1000!

Is there a tldr?

So who will replace Chris and Jordan at DPreview then?

It reminds me a startup I worked for some 10 years ago. Everybody was speculating when we'll be bought and for how much. Then one day CEO gathers a meeting, everybody goes expecting great news. And the CEO starts by saying that they failed to secure new investments and the company will be shutting down.

I don't know if someone else in the Nordics whips with spruce but atleast where I live in Finland it's birch, spruce needles would be a bit too extreme

Will we see the Fuji XS20 this week?🥺 Also why you let the boy in the intro for podcast just free fall to the ground?

Yessss

Lens destruction story: Shooting promos for Dodge with then CEO Ralph Gilles in 35mm motion picture film. Set up a low angle shot of Gilles driving the Dodge Charger away from camera. Gilles ( who fancies himself something of a hot-shoe) decided to floor the gas and smoked the tires and shot a ton of rocks and gravel VERY fast at the lens. The two 6x6" filters were shattered and the the front of the Angenieux 24 to 290 2.8 lens was blown full of chips and cracks. Me (camera assistant) and operator had what looked like chicken pox for weeks after being pummeled with the rocks. The Angenieux 12:1 lens was $135,000 retail at the time.

19:10 nice the Smiths reference 😊

I don't think we'll ever see the complete fallout from this notorious scandal shocking the world. I only hope we'll be stronger going forward.

My Canon R7 also has that OM feature (raw burst mode).

Having worked for 'companies' - I feel for all the folks who have to live through these heartless moves. Take care all.

this is great news! thanks guys!

Thanks for sharing. What happened to Rishi?

Mr Butler's dry humour is catching.

Glad DPR stays alive, but Chris and Jordan were the firsts to abandon the sinking ship.

What irony, I just made a post in DPreview and had just finished editing it after I had already posted it. But the edit wouldn't take. The site DPreview has just crashed.

Fuji made fixed lens medium format film cameras, 645, 6x7 and 6x9.

Seems you guys might have a camera or two to recommend we don't use for live broadcasting. Care to name them alll?

I would like a sensor that was 6x6 to go in my Mamiya 6. One day this will happen and I will have a cheaper? travel medium format camera.

Sudden, inexplicable, decisions and lack of clarity. You don't know anything about a thing until it happens. That is how Amazon works. Their decision of closing DPReview shocked me, their execution not, it was perfectly in their style.

We still don't know WHY Amazon shut down DPReview?

What's the movie podcast Jordan recommended? Flight Check?

@Richard Butler- I shut down/deleted my account at dpreview about a year ago as I realized it became a bit of another Facebook for years already in the forums. I am raist3d- I emailed you directly several times and you kindly replied. Just wanted to say congratulations on the great work during this transition and best wishes in the future/new things and job stability. @Chris/@Jordan - love you guys since camera store TV (specially Chris - *cough* *cough* *ahem*). Would have loved to see you back at dpreview but it's inevitable you had to watch the land you were stepping in. Best wishes too.

It was Richard all along! He was behind this elaborate plot to get rid of Chris and Jordon and traumatize staff and readers so that he could take over dprtv 😂 (What's happening with dprtv by the way? Is Richard or someone going to make more content now that dpr is still running?)

Great interview, but is this the same as Chris and Jordan invited their ex over while the current Mrs. is out of town? Hoping the best for DPReview

that's a nice pair of speakers!

I know what REALLY happened... Bezos is a secret PENTAX fan, and he was so enraged that you never properly finished the K3-III review that he just decided to shut the whole thing down. (full disclosure, I switched from Pentax and bought an A7RV, in no small part thanks to a certain fly fisherman) Joking aside, glad everyone landed on their feet. I mean, this was BIG... and I think the butterfly effect of DPR going away would have had far reaching implications that I'm glad we won't have to see now that GP saved them from the "dustbin". Even with that great news, I get the feeling that enough forum subscribers did jump ship and found new homes elsewhere that they may take some time to come back to DPR, if at all. I know I'm spending more time at FM these days before I invest myself further in DPR forums. Now, about finishing that review...

Gordon Bennet, you do go on...

Well so what REALLY happened?

Never have I heard this much: “You know” in a broadcast….

I realise i'm asking this on their new employer's channel. But, Do Chris and Jordan regret jumping ship so quickly from DPReview?

I didn´t know that DPReview was financed by Amazon. If I would have known I wouldn´t have perceived your great work as objective and independent. So how about PetaPixel? Who is financing that?

To play devil's advocate... If in the last 5 years IQ plateaued when both lenses and IBIS got better. What got worse?

I dont know about other people, but i have not been able to access DPReview over the last two weeks, i just get an error, no matter from which device or network.

TBH… I almost never relied upon dPReview to get information about cameras and lenses after Amazon acquired it. I prefer reviews not beholden to a corporate overlord. 🤷‍♂️

Hi Jordan, coming from a professional video editor. I would remove the monitor from behind your head. The constant movement is distracting. The viewer wants to pay attention to you not the screen saver behind you.. the focus needs to be on you..

Don't buy from Amazon, I closed my account 7 months ago and will never use them again.