What’s Going Wrong for the SNP?

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8 ай бұрын

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While once dominating Scottish politics, the SNP has seen there polling decline considerably amidst the chaos surrounding the party. So in this video, we break down why recent social and political controversies have seen their support falling in Scotland.
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@ozzy8286
@ozzy8286 8 ай бұрын
What is going wrong with the SNP. One word,,,,, EVERYTHING.
@realkekz
@realkekz 8 ай бұрын
All British parties need to find better candidates.
@phooogle
@phooogle 8 ай бұрын
I think we need better parties. It's all too stagnant now, no one has ambition or will to do anything.
@brandon3872
@brandon3872 8 ай бұрын
The entire political system is rotten at the core. It needs a complete revolution.
@reheyesd8666
@reheyesd8666 8 ай бұрын
Not foreign or a women either.
@tomboyiam
@tomboyiam 8 ай бұрын
@@reheyesd8666afraid a woman would do a good job? Or that someone with dark skin would actually be liked by UK public?
@reheyesd8666
@reheyesd8666 8 ай бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf Humza sounds very British. Stop kidding yourself.
@jamespayter6948
@jamespayter6948 4 ай бұрын
The SNP are blinded by independence and don't focus on any of the big issues regarding Scotland.
@walterfillingham
@walterfillingham 8 ай бұрын
Living in the Highlands, there is huge disappointment and growing anger at the lies from the SNP with lack of progress on upgrading basic infrastructure outside the Central Belt such as upgrading the A9 to dual carriageway which has resulted in multiple deaths. They blame Westminster saying they have no money, whilst spending money on huge infrastructure projects in the Central Belt. Secondly they have been centralising everything down to the Central Belt at huge cost to the Highlands. They are so out of touch with outside the Central Belt. There is a feeling what’s the difference for us outside the Central Belt wether we were independent or not.. only difference, an independent Scotland would all be about Glasgow, Glasgow, Glasgow..
@HolySpiritAmen
@HolySpiritAmen 8 ай бұрын
Sounds good 2 me
@thevis5465
@thevis5465 8 ай бұрын
muppet, westminster is the reason infrastructure cannot be changed. Privatisation has destroyed the central belt and you clearly have no idea just how awful it is here.
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 8 ай бұрын
I mean they could fund railways instead so there is a modal shift, but apart from that, join the club. Us in the North of England know exactly how you feel. The SNP claims to be anti Westminster, but they sure do go around acting like them.
@tozmom615
@tozmom615 8 ай бұрын
Where in the highlands are you? I live between moray and Wester-Ross… as far as I can see their support is as high as ever in Wester Ross. And they have a number of drones in moray too albeit less so.
@jono_cc2258
@jono_cc2258 8 ай бұрын
Sorry, not completing the upgrade on the A9 hasn't caused deaths, wreckless driving accounts for most instances according to Police Scotland. Also which major infrastructure projects are you referring to? It's not as if funding is being diverted from one project to another.
@lawsharland7278
@lawsharland7278 8 ай бұрын
It was always somewhat inevtiable. The SNP was really a broad-tent of ideologies that was only ever united by support for Scottish independence. Now that independence has lost salience as the main political issue facing the people (in favour of things such as the cost of living and the ecenomy) the SNP has grown very divided, as the one thing that united all its wings isnt the main issue facing the people now.
@jennyporraz
@jennyporraz 8 ай бұрын
So true everyone is worried about paying bills and putting food on the table and most important a roof over Our heads,
@calumettles4030
@calumettles4030 8 ай бұрын
I think this is true but a generalisation to some extent. I think in addition to the changing state of the economy the SNP is weaker by its loss of strong popular leadership. Love them or hate them it is undeniable Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond were popular leaders and they unified the party, with the loss of that leadership and the leadership election that then lead to power vacuum in party one which give rise to the division in the party that you mention which always existed but was previously hidden. Prior the SNP just cared about independence and winning elections with the loss of Nicola in the party lead to a drive for taking a new direction for the party hence the party became disjointed, because for the most part SNP was the “Nicola Sturgeon party” I feel. Had Nicola built up a strong leader to take up like Salmond did for her the maybe this issue would not have taken place. Oh yeah definitely the gender equality policy they tried to pass definitely didn’t do the party any favours either
@dunkirk1581
@dunkirk1581 8 ай бұрын
Scotland has been independent since 1311 AD, Written into international law 1320 AD. you were lied too
@doreenhollywood7459
@doreenhollywood7459 8 ай бұрын
@@calumettles4030 The sad thing for us in Scotland is the fact that the media and press , Daily FAIL in particular went out of their way to villify Nicola in particular and also SNP. There was NEVER anything good said about Scotland. We have the third best school in the WORLD but not mentioned. Two men from Aberdeen were given 6 year jail sentences for threatening to kill both Nicola and her family and also for attempting to kidnap a judge and yet no mention in the press. Nicola resigned the day after the court case. The Gender recognition Bill was passed by the whole Scottish government and not just SNP. Scotland is stopped at every turn by westminster. The Deposit Return Scheme has been halted for 2 full years.
@firebyrd437
@firebyrd437 8 ай бұрын
@@dunkirk1581 what total garbage Salmond thought signed away the claim of rights when he signed the Scotland act
@zephyrback5093
@zephyrback5093 8 ай бұрын
When Sturgeon was at the helm, she managed to keep these party divisions quiet and the party focused on Independence. With Sturgeon gone, all these divides have bubbled up and exposed to the Scottish public how the Broadchurch nature of the SNP has divided the party.
@fawkyou2001
@fawkyou2001 8 ай бұрын
people around me always got confused when I said I'd trust the snp to get independence but not to run an independent scotland, I've had those same people speak to me afterwards to say they get what I mean now
@JohnM...
@JohnM... 8 ай бұрын
Well, with Sturgeon gone, the false curtain of morality and competence has also vanished, and people are freely behaving like the people they are: bugling, incompetent, corrupt, self- interested morons.
@EntheoVita
@EntheoVita 8 ай бұрын
Hamza Yusif is not progressive, he's a authoritarian sad excuse for a man that'll do anything for power including using his skin colour to imply that anyone who disagrees with him is racist. Now he's in power he will just kick out anyone who doesn't tow his line
@rowanpdx
@rowanpdx 8 ай бұрын
@@fawkyou2001 I think the SNP would naturally break up after independence though anyway and you'd see formations of lots of different political parties form. Even the conservatives and labour would probably fractionalise once they are no longer tied to UK national politics.
@dunkirk1581
@dunkirk1581 8 ай бұрын
Scotland has been free and independent since 1311 AD, Written into international law in 1320 AD. You were lied to from the start.
@FullaEels
@FullaEels 8 ай бұрын
the reason the snp got so big in the first place is because labour promise federalism every time they're elected in westminster but never deliver it. for federalism to properly work, you'd need regional parliaments throughout england as well, but I don't see that happening any time soon
@Tay12345
@Tay12345 8 ай бұрын
Federalism.. Oh no 🤦🏻‍♂️
@hobbabobba7912
@hobbabobba7912 8 ай бұрын
Well, first of all, you would have to ask the people of England, and that would likely be voted down.
@breadbreaker500
@breadbreaker500 8 ай бұрын
@@hobbabobba7912 I’d love a Federal model in England. Central planning in Westminster for 50m people just isn’t working! Canada has a British-based Federal parliament with a crown parliament and the provincial parliaments. Would love to see that over here.
@pault1289
@pault1289 8 ай бұрын
​@@hobbabobba7912I'm not sure, England is a funny place right now. They might see it as a benefit. Wales, Scotland and NI have devolved administrations with greater or lesser powers, but England does not. England does have regional and City Mayors though. Maybe a regional parliament with MPs and Mayor's might give other the feeling of closer government?
@hobbabobba7912
@hobbabobba7912 8 ай бұрын
@breadbreaker500 I am in favour of a Federal Model in the UK as well, but I don't think anyone is in favour of carving up England.
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 8 ай бұрын
Under Scottish law everyone is arrested if questioned by the police.
@thefastandthedead1769
@thefastandthedead1769 8 ай бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf Define "grounds"? It only really take an accusation.
@phooogle
@phooogle 8 ай бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf Have you been to Scotland lately? :O
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Questioned under caution is a better description.
@phooogle
@phooogle 8 ай бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf Just curious.
@CyberVirus549
@CyberVirus549 8 ай бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf The police need to suspect you of wrongdoing in order to lift you, sure. But in Scotland, what counts as 'wrongdoing' is broad enough that if the police want you, they'll find something to lift you over and bring you in. Even if it's telling a joke or making fun of the police on Twitter.
@TheRastler
@TheRastler 8 ай бұрын
Politics across the UK is a cesspit with the💩rising to the top
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 8 ай бұрын
Another thing I hear from Scots that you didn't mention is that Yousaf is seriously unpopular in the country and fairly unpopular in his own party. He's seen as being incompetent in the ministerial jobs he's held so far, and has a reputation as a control freak, being willing to invoke the 'hate speech' legislation he pushed through parliament as justice minister to silence legitimate criticism of him. Looking at polling, it seems like the only reason he isn't doing worse is that Scots aren't very convinced by any of the alternatives, either.
@DFC667
@DFC667 8 ай бұрын
he's managed to fail upwards in every post
@leikfroakies
@leikfroakies 8 ай бұрын
Anas Sarwar is polling fairly well in terms of popularity
@grant6849
@grant6849 8 ай бұрын
I don’t really believe that Yousaf is unpopular in the party because he was voted in by party members
@leikfroakies
@leikfroakies 8 ай бұрын
@@grant6849 A majority of the 'progressive' SNP members voted for one of the two right wingers
@Alastair_
@Alastair_ 8 ай бұрын
I don't think he's unpopular as such, just unknown. Most Scottish people don't know a thing about him, Sturgeon we had for years, we saw her on TV constantly throughout Covid, we got to know and trust her.
@somecuriosities
@somecuriosities 8 ай бұрын
Look, I'm not even necessarily an independence supporter, nevermind an snp supporter, but even I can't help but think this is a bunch of (well meaning) folk in England who don't really get the feel/zeigiest of Scottish politics atm..!
@keithbaxby6556
@keithbaxby6556 8 ай бұрын
Keep it short: tell us what is NOT going wrong for this bunch of liars and charlatans who have wrecked public services in my adopted country.
@SirWhig-esq.
@SirWhig-esq. 8 ай бұрын
Nicola Sturgeon isn’t leader anymore. That’s the answer.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
​@@Gary-bz1rfshe is not the sinking.
@HootMaRoot
@HootMaRoot 8 ай бұрын
​@@julianshepherd2038she pulled the plug and started it
@alexlehrersh9951
@alexlehrersh9951 8 ай бұрын
You ro surgeonposter smokes weed
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Scottish Retail Consortium is a tory front who want every privatised or closed.
@TheErmerm999
@TheErmerm999 8 ай бұрын
Yeah its not even subtle and to use it in this video with no comment Is pretty bad journalism.
@daveturnbull7221
@daveturnbull7221 8 ай бұрын
What's wrong with the SNP? Dishonesty, incompetence, lack of willingness to accept responsibility to name a few things. Unfortunately I don't think there are any alternatives which offer much. This is not just a problem for my homeland, it's worldwide. A career politician has a potentially short working life so is going to do whatever is needed to line their own pockets for the future. Whether that be financial or accumulating 'favours owed', they are yhere for themselves and nobody else.
@firebyrd437
@firebyrd437 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@John1873--
@John1873-- 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. They're clowns.
@sandraharris3605
@sandraharris3605 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget the failed attempt at a independence & there is as much chance of them getting this as me winning the lottery & I don't even put one on , sooner they are gone the better & we can rejoice the fact that we don't have to listen to the same crap about independence
@ricequackers
@ricequackers 8 ай бұрын
Well the biggest issue is that there's never once been a convincing majority of Scots in favour of independence. Support has always hovered around the 45% mark (about the same as the referendum), but never once crossed 50% averaging across all opinion polls. A bit awkward since independence is the SNP's raison d'etre.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 8 ай бұрын
"Well the biggest issue is that there's never once been a convincing majority of Scots in favour of independence" Erm, Brexit changed that, massively. Been away since 2016??
@ricequackers
@ricequackers 8 ай бұрын
@@BOZ_11 Even that didn't tip the balance, it only reached about 48% in favour in the aftermath of Brexit. Currently around 42-45% in favour over the last few weeks.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 8 ай бұрын
@@ricequackers From 5th to 11th September 2023 polling, it's currently: 49% yes (to leave), 45% remain, and 5% undecided (I realise that adds up to 99% so i'm not sure what they're playing at). A referendum would be a coin toss. The best thing for Scotland would be to leave, because self determination is always better than being ruled by the auld enemy
@Pipsicle330
@Pipsicle330 8 ай бұрын
@@BOZ_11No it didn’t. Couldn’t care less about leaving the EU in 2014 and now they supposedly care when it’s just used as a grievance
@GrammarNaziAUS
@GrammarNaziAUS 8 ай бұрын
​​@@BOZ_11Did you really call England an "old enemy". Last time I checked, Scotland willingly joined with England. The only ones who have any right to call England that are the Irish.
@gordonmackenzie4512
@gordonmackenzie4512 8 ай бұрын
It’s strange that you attribute the GRR Bill to only the SNP. It was passed by Parliament, after 2 years and multiple amendments, by a two thirds majority. MSPs from all political parties voted for and against.
@user-dg9ti5gq4e
@user-dg9ti5gq4e 8 ай бұрын
Definitely showing some strong bias by TLDR news on this. The bill was literally approved by the Scottish conservative party was it not
@riankinniburgh8381
@riankinniburgh8381 8 ай бұрын
Passed in Parliament but by the looks of it the public don’t all support it
@EntheoVita
@EntheoVita 8 ай бұрын
They've kinda turned into the bbc now, I think they've become baissed and underreported a myriad of news topics by missing key information that they could of used in their overviews
@someguy3766
@someguy3766 8 ай бұрын
Well the video is about the causes of division and problems within the SNP, not within the wider Scottish Parliament.
@Alastair_
@Alastair_ 8 ай бұрын
@@user-dg9ti5gq4e TLDR is more educated than most but honestly, when it comes to Scotland and the SNP is as biased as any other news source south of the border.
@seanmacmillan5562
@seanmacmillan5562 8 ай бұрын
Humza yousaf lying about a nursery being racist didn't help either.
@Trecesolotienesdos
@Trecesolotienesdos 8 ай бұрын
They’ve just had their time. SNP support was as much anti labour and Tory as it was pro independence
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Snp do Labour's job better and more consistently than Labour. That was the pan I the 80s and Labour's endless flip flflops made it easy.
@annemitchell6144
@annemitchell6144 8 ай бұрын
@@user-kw8ek5px6k Don't bet on it
@ineedmoreflavour1955
@ineedmoreflavour1955 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree with this. They've had their time.
@shivill2236
@shivill2236 8 ай бұрын
​@@julianshepherd2038Look at the sexual crime statistics under Scottish Labour and the SNP then come back to me.
@brunopetit9538
@brunopetit9538 8 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@The_Greedy_Orphan
@The_Greedy_Orphan 8 ай бұрын
Forbes would've been the best thing for the SNP, but Yousef is the best thing for Scotland, as he'll lead to it's destruction.
@fatgore
@fatgore 8 ай бұрын
the main issue is as a party they have no real unanimous agenda outside of independence!
@cassanateli
@cassanateli 8 ай бұрын
Not true at all, they have a clear manifesto and a long list of accomplishments for Scotland including tax funded higher education, dental etc
@fatgore
@fatgore 8 ай бұрын
@@cassanatelithey can have a manifesto but that doesn’t mean all of them agree with its contents, and they don’t! we can literally see the various differences in their policies and politics outside of independence
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
You know nothing of Scottish politics. All four parties agree on brexit, trident, GRR reform, it's only the Tories that disagree. There is dissent in the snp, sgp, Labour and libdems but a remarkable amount of unity.
@fatgore
@fatgore 8 ай бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038i’ve seen ur comments on this video and all i get is 🐑 vibes, but yeah i’m the one that doesn’t understand scottish politics
@bjiornbjiorn
@bjiornbjiorn 8 ай бұрын
Only having one policy that the entire party agrees on isn't necessarily the problem. The real problem is that promises of securing another indyref have been made and broken so often that the people who would have held their nose and voted despite whatever other policies were on the cards no longer think it's worth it.
@andrewwhite3793
@andrewwhite3793 8 ай бұрын
After 16 years in power they did what every political party did when that long in power. Complacency kicked in and today the chickens are coming home to roost. Remember Nicola said "I aint going anywhere" then 2 weeks later she resigned . There is a lot more to come out no doubt but what makes me annoyed is her so called lifes work was cynically dumped as she bailed out thinking no doubt she would get a cushy wee CEO job with a NGO.
@stephenmardon6781
@stephenmardon6781 8 ай бұрын
Really good analysis
@robertyoung8785
@robertyoung8785 8 ай бұрын
They were not arrested , they were taken in for questioning, get you facts right.
@MrAndrew941
@MrAndrew941 8 ай бұрын
How about the theft of money meant for the agricultural sector given to them by Westminster and also money meant for business relief. Also given to them by Westminster, that has also gone missing. How about mentioning some of that.
@doreenhollywood7459
@doreenhollywood7459 8 ай бұрын
Don't believe everything the media tells you. They have their own agenda
@firebyrd437
@firebyrd437 8 ай бұрын
Westminster keeps a huge chunk or of our money, but you're more upset about farming money, here's a few facts for you. The Scottish budget is constrained by what Westminster deems to give us. Any pay rises in the public sector have to come out of said money. Scotland can not borrow and has to balance the books, areas that they would like to have more money often can't because of borrowing constraints and said, limited money. Mean while in looney land the tories gave out billions for fraudulent contracts to their mates, allows tax dodging and is privatising the NHS. Scotland at least has a government trying to redress some of the inequalities in our society, and all people like you do is complain. There are matters I would like to change, but I can't, I vote some one into office tomdo that for me and I certainly prefer one that at the very least tries hard to help those less fortunate than me
@slax4884
@slax4884 8 ай бұрын
Salmond was the best and got betrayed. Sturgeon just rode on his coattails
@sandygordon1262
@sandygordon1262 6 ай бұрын
The lies the money they have squandered the ferry fiasco the £600.000 that has never been found.the missing mobile home.need I go on.
@mgphall1
@mgphall1 8 ай бұрын
main issue is that the SNP have not delivered another referendum
@unamedjoe830
@unamedjoe830 8 ай бұрын
and living in caithness, i couldnt be more thankfull she hasnt!
@joncarter3761
@joncarter3761 8 ай бұрын
And according to the Police the former leader embezzled funds that were for another independence campaign.
@unamedjoe830
@unamedjoe830 8 ай бұрын
@@joncarter3761 Shows you exactly how much faith she truelly had in achieving that. Nil.
@ruthguthrie1099
@ruthguthrie1099 8 ай бұрын
​@@joncarter3761 Oh please. Not that nonsense again.
@pragueuprising560
@pragueuprising560 8 ай бұрын
Because Westminster won't let them.
@Govanmauler
@Govanmauler 8 ай бұрын
Lots going on ...rhe brexit debacle shows how bad breaking up the uk could go, the snp have lost their air of difference from the other parties , Yousaf is a poor replacement and they have a split in their support between progressives and conservatives.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Nice theory but nonsense. Snp support has slipped, SGP support rising, support for Independence is steady.
@mcr2356
@mcr2356 8 ай бұрын
​@@julianshepherd2038Steady is a stretch. It has fallen in the last year and when the tories are kicked out it will fall further.
@New-ye2fl
@New-ye2fl 8 ай бұрын
@@mcr2356what lol? You do realise prior the last referendum independence was polling below 30% consistently, not even ten years later and it’s steadily around the 50/50, where is this fall?
@Govanmauler
@Govanmauler 8 ай бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038 you only , tangentially, address one of my points. But since you have..I voted yes first time round but I'm not sure I would again..brexit is both a reason to vote yes but also to vote no. As I said it's a multi facetted issue and the SNP face multiple challenges
@mcr2356
@mcr2356 8 ай бұрын
@@New-ye2fl Because it was even higher last year...
@user-lq9hw1tb2w
@user-lq9hw1tb2w 25 күн бұрын
Corrupt, self entitled, self enriching, power hungry ...
@phyllislovelace8151
@phyllislovelace8151 8 ай бұрын
Thank you TLDR
@southafrica73
@southafrica73 8 ай бұрын
Why?
@somecuriosities
@somecuriosities 8 ай бұрын
The best way to cause SNP to _really_ lose support: 1. Kick the conservatives out ofb Westminster and keep them out AND... 2. Bring in Proportional Representation, introduce Wealth Tax reform, address the housing/elderly care crisis and overturn this countrys toxic relationship neoliberal economic ideological dogma. Do that and the decisive increasing trickle of soft support for independence/SNP will dry up overnight and swing in favour of unionism for a generation or more _easily._
@jontalbot1
@jontalbot1 7 ай бұрын
Plus begin steps to rejoin the EU
@TheRastler
@TheRastler 8 ай бұрын
Independence has been their only policy which is why Scotland is in the mess that it is in, money missing boats that have more than trebled in costs and on completion dates and still likely to rise. Only those that will not see are happy following the SNP.
@azide6172
@azide6172 7 ай бұрын
Mad Humza is very unpopular. That’s that.
@TheRoseBoy11
@TheRoseBoy11 8 ай бұрын
UK politics in general is in a BIG mess right now. And meanwhile Labour is laughing with popcorn in their mouths seeing all this go down even with their faults.
@stevenjoy3537
@stevenjoy3537 8 ай бұрын
For progressive read regressive
@ineedmoreflavour1955
@ineedmoreflavour1955 8 ай бұрын
The Labour factor is also important as is fatigue of a conservative government. Starmer is a far more realistic choice of PM than Corbyn ever was.
@ASocialistTransGirl
@ASocialistTransGirl 8 ай бұрын
what do you mean by “realistic” here?
@cube9967
@cube9967 8 ай бұрын
@@ASocialistTransGirlCorbyn was a loon, even by socialist standards
@SarastistheSerpent
@SarastistheSerpent 8 ай бұрын
Realistic in that Starmer has zero platform and is basically just a Tory-lite who will change absolutely nothing?
@eddiecalderone
@eddiecalderone 8 ай бұрын
@@ASocialistTransGirl Corbyn would never ever get elected as Pm. He’s toxic. A terrorist sympathiser. A rabid anti semite that hates the U.K. and it’s people
@davedavis3746
@davedavis3746 8 ай бұрын
Is it that the SNP doesn’t have the best interests of the Scottish people at heart?
@jdng86
@jdng86 8 ай бұрын
The SNP is the picture of "You had one job."
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Sturgeon hasnt gone, she is still an MSP ,has a book coming out. And after 26 months investigation, no charges have been brought against anyone.
@wynbrown5985
@wynbrown5985 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately.
@ASocialistTransGirl
@ASocialistTransGirl 8 ай бұрын
@@wynbrown5985 what was the alleged crime(s)?
@FranzBieberkopf
@FranzBieberkopf 8 ай бұрын
Yet
@carltaylor6452
@carltaylor6452 8 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder why, doesn't it? There's still the case of the missing £££s, covered up by lies about membership figures. Their accounts don't look either convincing or healthy. (Don't mention the camper van!)
@auldfouter8661
@auldfouter8661 8 ай бұрын
The missing money hasn't turned up yet either.
@joshuaelder8983
@joshuaelder8983 8 ай бұрын
if they used the de fact referendum strategy they would probably make the case that winning most seats gives a mandate for independence even if they get less votes
@jamesdodds9407
@jamesdodds9407 8 ай бұрын
That's the voting system for UK Parliament so what can be done
@Red-ki4tk
@Red-ki4tk 8 ай бұрын
We in the Pakistani community hereby do not claim sadiq khan and humza yusuf
@raymaybury5337
@raymaybury5337 8 ай бұрын
They ran out of road and had nothing to show for all the years they were in office.
@alex29443
@alex29443 8 ай бұрын
The gender recognition bill is a monstrosity.
@alex29443
@alex29443 8 ай бұрын
@@Besthinktwice I actually agree with your wider point that people are not looking for the truth. You might want to apply that same thinking here, because to my eyes this legislation can only come from pure virtue signaling with little to no regard for any sort of consequence whatsoever. What could possibly be wrong with legally letting men into girls changing rooms by having them simply say that they identify as female? What could possibly undermine the health of mentally unwell teenagers by giving them the virtually encouraged option to take powerful life-altering (and sterilising!) hormonal treatments (with no evidence of efficacy in treating the underlying mental health issues)? As I say; monstrous. You trying to pass it off as minor is a lesson in the banality of evil.
@geoffwright9570
@geoffwright9570 8 ай бұрын
If the snp had a half decent opposition then there might be an alternative worth voting for.
@ShrunkedDude
@ShrunkedDude 8 ай бұрын
I'm voting for Alba next time since they support independence and aren't the SNP.
@jontalbot1
@jontalbot1 7 ай бұрын
The do. It’s the Labour Party.
@vinay7397
@vinay7397 5 ай бұрын
Cant trust Humza he biggest priority is Palestine and not calling out Hamas.
@DannyWaringxxx1
@DannyWaringxxx1 4 ай бұрын
Why a glorified council leader with no real power is offering opinions on international matters that doesn't concern him is beyond me
@braesspartan
@braesspartan Ай бұрын
Whats going wrong with the SNP? Humza Yousaf
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 8 ай бұрын
Although Proportional Representation leads to instability it should be no doubt implented in UK to completely shut out Tories. Labour will always have the support of Lib Dems,Green, SNP and Plaid Cymu
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 8 ай бұрын
Germany is far wealthier than the UK, so I think I could live with that problem.
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 8 ай бұрын
​@@Gary-bz1rfwhat far left nuts?
@HShango
@HShango 8 ай бұрын
​@@Gary-bz1rfyou lot in the conservative camp have got far right populists running the show and still can't even run the UK competently lol. Grow up! 13 years of you lot has done so much damage to the UK, you lot deserve to go extinct.
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 8 ай бұрын
​@@Gary-bz1rf the fact that you still planning on voting Tories even after all this and think Starmer is Left wing nuts...I am just speeches .
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 8 ай бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf So Lib Dems or Tories????
@NoMementoMori
@NoMementoMori 8 ай бұрын
Every time TLDR uploads a video about Scotland i read: - The most unhinged takes of all time - Everyone accusing everyone else of not understanding scottish politics
@wabba2344
@wabba2344 8 ай бұрын
There's a reason why the no true Scotsman fallacy exists!
@kumasenlac5504
@kumasenlac5504 8 ай бұрын
What isn't ?
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan 8 ай бұрын
Just throw budget proposals at the people in a referendum and let them decide.
@owenlindkvist5355
@owenlindkvist5355 8 ай бұрын
And then we have Humza. Having him as your party leader alone is damaging.
@thefastandthedead1769
@thefastandthedead1769 8 ай бұрын
Has TLDR become like BBC Scotland?
@williambelford9661
@williambelford9661 8 ай бұрын
It was Alex Salmond that led the SNP to the only overall majority Government in the history of the Scottish Parliament, Nicola Sturgeon LOST that overall majority.
@ryanpollock5521
@ryanpollock5521 8 ай бұрын
By 2 seats in a system that is meant to prevent an overall majority.
@jamesdodds9407
@jamesdodds9407 8 ай бұрын
Could it be more likely that the Unionists rallied and started to vote tactically as they saw the threat of SNP
@jontalbot1
@jontalbot1 7 ай бұрын
And what a shining example he is to all of us
@allanstrath8114
@allanstrath8114 5 ай бұрын
why because they are liars thieves and care nothing for anyone but themselves, been here for far too long so the quicker they go the better and hope to never return. Get the police investigation over with and get them in jail .
@getnohappy
@getnohappy 8 ай бұрын
I'll add three more: - Tories are on the way out, so less resonance for "we're not those Tory English" - Brexit: the SNPs Independence plans were/are identical to Leave (or rather, vice versa) - it'll be great, and if it's not it's their fault + now mass calls for rejoining across the UK. - Russian Invasion: suddenly the SNP anti-nuclear pacifistic message looks like it always was, a mixture of naivete and shameless free-riding on bigger boys to defend Scotland.
@andrewwotherspoona5722
@andrewwotherspoona5722 8 ай бұрын
Oh I'm so scared of Russia invading Scotland....not! No let England have the nukes in their backyard for a change!
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK 8 ай бұрын
I look forward to your video about the things going wrong with Labour. You know since you're independent and impartial...
@unconventionalideas5683
@unconventionalideas5683 8 ай бұрын
How many things are actually going wrong with Labour right now, though? Be honest and take off the tribalism goggles. What is actually going wrong for Labour?
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK 8 ай бұрын
@@unconventionalideas5683 well the top thing that people talk about is the flip flops on policies, and how Labour doesn't really stand for anything significantly different to the Conservatives. That's two and I don't really follow the party info that closely.
@somerandompersonidk2272
@somerandompersonidk2272 8 ай бұрын
They did a poll awhile back and their viewer base is primarily left wing so that's what they cater to.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK 8 ай бұрын
@@somerandompersonidk2272 that's fine they should drop the claims to be impartial then. If they'll lie about that what else would they like about?
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 8 ай бұрын
@@unconventionalideas5683 They are just Troy with red tie since Tony Blair
@BrianMcMurray-ms1fd
@BrianMcMurray-ms1fd 5 ай бұрын
Three big problems are…Nicoliar Turdgeon , Dumbza Useless and their relationship with the truth .
@johndavidson3227
@johndavidson3227 3 ай бұрын
The SNP leader is not fit for the job
@JASON1XRX
@JASON1XRX 5 ай бұрын
SNP are a joke now
@leonmcnair4615
@leonmcnair4615 8 ай бұрын
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere" - Voltaire “The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he’s in prison.” - Dostoevsky
@thematthew761
@thematthew761 8 ай бұрын
Ok?
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 8 ай бұрын
Men's or women's prison?
@herbivorethecarnivore8447
@herbivorethecarnivore8447 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if the kinds of people who post random quotes actually think they look like anything other than pretentious gits?
@MrBluman999
@MrBluman999 8 ай бұрын
​@@herbivorethecarnivore8447the SNP censored cartoons that criticize them. If your arguments and methods cant stand up to a cartoon then they hold no real world logic and if you feel the need to silence it then youre a tyrant. Thats what he's getting at.
@Ava-wu4qp
@Ava-wu4qp 8 ай бұрын
Why must trans rights be so controversial and dominant in politics? It's just a small minority trying to live their lives as normally as possible. People need to chill out.
@EdFortune
@EdFortune 8 ай бұрын
So the right can use it as a stick and a distraction. Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Switzerland all have Gender Recognition with no problem at all, because it's a non issue. But trans folk are a tiny minority, so it's easy for bigots and bullies to spread misinformation about them. Also concerted efforts in Scotland from Right-Wing, Christian Conservative groups to turn this into a thing.
@SgtAndrewM
@SgtAndrewM 8 ай бұрын
Tell that to women locked up with them
@leikfroakies
@leikfroakies 8 ай бұрын
The SNP has always been more of a nationalist coalition party. As the culture war issue of our time, it was the thing that stopped the right wingers falling in line for the sake of independence
@MaskedRokho
@MaskedRokho 8 ай бұрын
???@@SgtAndrewM
@ineedmoreflavour1955
@ineedmoreflavour1955 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree, trans activists need to chill out. I hate this argument that people just need to 'chill out' and accept radical change to society that effects them and their kids, for the sake of (as you yourself said) 'a small minority'. People should be allowed to live their lives however they wish. However, once you start actively trying to alter society to suit one particular group, it becomes controversial as guess what? Not everybody has the same views on the trans issue. A good chunk of people don't think a man can be a woman just because they say they are a woman (hardly an unfair point of view). So yes, society should be accepting and tolerant of all. Harassment of any group or individual should of course be illegal. But that is not what trans activists want. Many of them want a radical restructuring of society to suit their particular world view........not everybody is on board with this. So you saying 'people need to chill out' is code for - 'accept what my side believes' - which simply is not viable or fair.
@ewangent
@ewangent 8 ай бұрын
By 2011 a majority of Scots had forgiven the SNP for toppling the Callaghan government, by 2023 a bakery majority of Scots have not forgiven the dismal public services and our dismal economy.
@ryanpollock5521
@ryanpollock5521 8 ай бұрын
The Callaghan Government deserved it because they stabbed Scotland in the back and it was out with 2 months of the election anyways and Thatcher would have won anyways.
@MatthewJBD
@MatthewJBD 8 ай бұрын
They're a one issue party and failed at that.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Sturgeon didnt have polkcies, the SNP does. It s not like Labour where Starmer or Corbyn says something and policy has changed.
@historiamilitaris5161
@historiamilitaris5161 8 ай бұрын
My problem with SNP - it’s existence
@xb2856
@xb2856 8 ай бұрын
No one cares about your opinion
@amyiyen
@amyiyen 7 ай бұрын
As a foreigner living in Scotland, SNP needs to go.
@New-ye2fl
@New-ye2fl 7 ай бұрын
No better options, and aslong as SNP are the only ones offering a sniff at independence, they’ll continue to dominate Scottish politics.
@BIZZYBSTRD
@BIZZYBSTRD 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't sturgeon who catapulted the SNP it was Alex salmond!
@user-ey6rz3fv5y
@user-ey6rz3fv5y 8 ай бұрын
Time for the snp and the greens to go look at the mess they have made of Scotland
@kumasenlac5504
@kumasenlac5504 8 ай бұрын
Self-reflection is as rare in politics as honesty.
@dftfire
@dftfire 8 ай бұрын
It feels a bit disingenuous that during the leadership section you mention the views of Kate and Ash on social-issues, yet make no mention of the accusations that Humza scheduled a meeting on the day of the final-vote for equal-marriages so he wouldn't have to attend? Sure, his voting-record on LGBTQ+ issues is otherwise good, but not mentioning this does feel like a free-pass 🤔
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
So why is he continuing to fight Westminster over Gender Recognition rights? Nice theory but nothing to do with now.
@dftfire
@dftfire 8 ай бұрын
​​@@julianshepherd2038Because he is party leader now so attacking the Tory government on all issues is to be expected anyway? I did say his voting-record was otherwise great... but it's odd not to even mention this vote, which was an issue he was pressed on in multiple interviews at the time (and that part of the video was set in the past)
@rubberplantsandwich
@rubberplantsandwich 8 ай бұрын
Who paid for the camper van?
@pragueuprising560
@pragueuprising560 8 ай бұрын
Really liked the thumbnail for this video, well done guys.
@jono_cc2258
@jono_cc2258 8 ай бұрын
TLDR trying to once again understand Scotland and failing to pick up on most nuances.
@tal-lancer
@tal-lancer 8 ай бұрын
agreed, the SNP and most things Scotland is a real blindspot for these people. But as they're English that's to be expected.
@redred7289
@redred7289 8 ай бұрын
I can confirm that people in England don't understand Wales either. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@pault1289
@pault1289 8 ай бұрын
​@@redred7289or Northern Ireland. We didn't much understand Europe either....
@gurditrehal3348
@gurditrehal3348 8 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, which nuances would you have like to have been picked up in this video?
@digitaldave1576
@digitaldave1576 8 ай бұрын
I would agree, but at the same time you don't get the English either 😊
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 8 ай бұрын
Scottish Greens are picking up a lot of SNP votes. They will challenge Labour on the left.
@Blorp_
@Blorp_ 8 ай бұрын
God help us all
@karankapoor2701
@karankapoor2701 8 ай бұрын
​@@Blorp_more disastrous than German greens
@Tay12345
@Tay12345 8 ай бұрын
Oh my.. They are even worse!
@taromilktea4834
@taromilktea4834 8 ай бұрын
Greens can’t do anything well. SNP better all the way
@FranzBieberkopf
@FranzBieberkopf 8 ай бұрын
The Scottish Greens are libertarians, not lefties. Hence GRR, the deposit scheme (privatising recycling and paying the head of the new agency more than the FM) and heat pumps (fit them at your own expense, no state aid). They broke relations with the Greens in England and Wales because they weren't pro-Trans enough for the SGP's taste. Doesn't sound left or pro-environmental to me.
@ScratchyYard
@ScratchyYard 7 ай бұрын
so scotland wants indepenent from the uk but the orkney islands wants more attention because the ferry is starting to run out of cash
@grodesby3422
@grodesby3422 8 ай бұрын
They should have devolved power to the county level rather than to the constituent countries. Maybe at the county level people can focus on what is or isn't working rather than voting team A or team B, and democracy might have a chance to actually work.
@diegoarmando5489
@diegoarmando5489 8 ай бұрын
You misunderstand the problem with Kate Forbes: it's not her membership in the Free Church of Scotland; rather, it's her connections to the far-right American Evangelical lobby through the National Prayer Breakfast and her ties to Brian Souter.
@JohnDoe-gc1pm
@JohnDoe-gc1pm 8 ай бұрын
Yes, it's her Protestant Christianity that is the problem. The fact that there aren't many if any domestic equivalents being irrelevant
@stuxmusic
@stuxmusic 8 ай бұрын
So the party became joint first instead of outright first in a poll and that's enough to say the party is in turmoil? The rhetoric being banded around the UK right now is that you must vote did labour to beat the tories (which is wrong), but has pushed labour up slightly. That's it. That's the whole reason.
@Nathann99
@Nathann99 8 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s because they have been in power for like 15 years, need a refresh in Britain
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 8 ай бұрын
With what? Troy and Labour never care of Scotland
@shivill2236
@shivill2236 8 ай бұрын
@@tiglishnobody8750 Can you think before you type? Your illiteracy is spilling into your spelling.
@glakiteejit1718
@glakiteejit1718 8 ай бұрын
Corrupt lying wasters ??
@zetorinthekailyard5093
@zetorinthekailyard5093 8 ай бұрын
I think there are some fair points brought up in this video however ! Its better understood in Scotland perhaps the the gender recognision bill had cross party support .This will also hurt an incoming labour party at a uk wide level .I think Humza is slowly showing himself to be a competant leader and ultimatly the progresive left in scotland has more of a home in the SNP than any other party .I would like to see the more radical wing of the pro independence movement coalece around a less sleazy party than Alba or perhaps alba realise that it cant be a scottish version of ukip . I am fairly optimistic with the snp polling and the great news is that dents in snp support havent lead to a decline in support for indepedence . like many people who were historicaly labour supporters who switched to the SNP a decade ago I still see the SNP as the most viable vehicle for driving us towards independence . my experiances of the SG over the last decade has been generaly positive .
@bjiornbjiorn
@bjiornbjiorn 8 ай бұрын
In fairness to UKIP, they did win in the end.
@ASocialistTransGirl
@ASocialistTransGirl 8 ай бұрын
pog!
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 8 ай бұрын
Scotland's own Rishi Sunak, to an extent.
@davidoldboy5425
@davidoldboy5425 8 ай бұрын
We need someone new to blame Westminster, it's gone quiet, are they gathering at Hadrians wall?
@mr.145
@mr.145 8 ай бұрын
Wishing to remain in the EU.....is so yesterday.
@neilhamilton3004
@neilhamilton3004 8 ай бұрын
They pass laws without thinking about the outcome. When it all goes wrong they then blame Westminster.
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 8 ай бұрын
What? Much of Scot did support this yet UK supreme Court that probably mostly made up of English overrule it
@AndrewDocherty07
@AndrewDocherty07 8 ай бұрын
I think the SNP needs to split into a left and right wing party, but come up with some agreement where only one would stand for each seat.
@TheErmerm999
@TheErmerm999 8 ай бұрын
in future if your going to use stock footage from Edinburgh it would be nice if it was from the last decade.
@TruthBot1984
@TruthBot1984 4 ай бұрын
Wow Sunak, Khan now this bloke Brits have gone insane....
@pradeepmagan6951
@pradeepmagan6951 8 ай бұрын
They have lost their relevance
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 8 ай бұрын
Do you think the desire for independence has dropped or gone away? What has happened is the leadership have no interest. Sturgeon was never a separatist she was always a devolutionist she went along with the independence line to win votes.
@ciandoyle3315
@ciandoyle3315 8 ай бұрын
Umm humza usuf isn't exactly what anyone who is a proud Scotsmen would describe as what they want for their country
@andrewobrien8325
@andrewobrien8325 8 ай бұрын
The reason I don’t want to vote SNP in the next general election is because when Nicola resigned I was hoping for two other snp members to stand for leadership positive but neither did. Instead we got three terrible candidates. Humza Yousaf is a first rate prat, I’m not saying the other two weren’t as well but I can’t stand him. All I need to know about him is that hate crime bill he tried to get past where the elements of our society that should never agree on anything said it was a terrible idea in one voice. He’s a terrible MSP and leader of the snp?! I wouldn’t put him in charge of a jar of pennies never mind a country. Also he tried to get the police to arrest someone for calling him a “cretin” and I’m sorry but cretin has to be the most polite insult out there….right up there with calling someone scruffy or a bit silly(besides all the things I’ve heard people call him are a lot worse and not including all the things I want to call him). He maybe head of the snp but given his competitors….he’s nothing more than a bad joke.
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 8 ай бұрын
Maybe if taxes raised in Scotland were actually kept in Scotland rather than London keeping 38% of them. And keeping all revenues raised for alcohol exports and food exports. But then people might realise just how much scotland actually makes. And well that isn’t going to happened is it.
@unamedjoe830
@unamedjoe830 8 ай бұрын
Do you realise how much money scotland actually recieves from London , far more Per resident than any other english place outside of london. Get a grip
@MEHOLE
@MEHOLE 8 ай бұрын
​@unamedjoe830 let him winge. It's all Scotland does, that and smack.
@unamedjoe830
@unamedjoe830 8 ай бұрын
@@MEHOLE cant really agree with that position either, English living in the Highlands. Cocaine however! lol. But there is more money flowing in then out. yes its non-uniform, but scotland is vastly better off inside britian, just as the UK was inside the EU. How any Scot can think theyd better better off without the two is unreal. its already been proven brexit was a mistake. and scotland leaving the UK would just create a decade long wait to get back in the EU, with a Decade of Pain i dont think any BRIT english or scottish could actually say would be worth it. No sterling, No Military, the main thing i see is they seem to think they can have all the benefits of English institutions but zero of the commitment.
@leonmcnair4615
@leonmcnair4615 8 ай бұрын
It's funny how supposedly we're every year in Scotland to maintain the financial balance and be in no debt, as per Kate Forbes' own words as Financial Secretary, and yet when it suits suddenly we're £1bil in it? Something's not right.
@unamedjoe830
@unamedjoe830 8 ай бұрын
@leonmcnair4615 I couldn't even make heads or tales of what you said , meant or are even implying. Almost nonsensical
@HShango
@HShango 8 ай бұрын
They will lose steam a little bit the SNP, but otherwise they'll reboot the Scotland independence campaign again
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 8 ай бұрын
Issue of independence is not dead at all. It's just that the independence voters are shifting from one left wing party to another
@HShango
@HShango 8 ай бұрын
​@@arpandas2243where in my comment does it say that it's dead 🤨
@gordonmackenzie4512
@gordonmackenzie4512 8 ай бұрын
38% of Labour voters in Scotland are in favour of independence. That has long been the case.
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 8 ай бұрын
@@gordonmackenzie4512 and those labour voters traditionally vote SNP
@SlayTYT
@SlayTYT 4 ай бұрын
It’s because they elected Humza😂😂 plain and simple. He’s boring as. Not inspiring at all.
@jimschannel2220
@jimschannel2220 8 ай бұрын
Krankies Achilles heal: sticky fingers in the till.
@bobdagnall3120
@bobdagnall3120 8 ай бұрын
SNP. WHERE IS THE MONEY £600,000+ WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION NOW. THEFT IS A CRIME !!!!!!
@ianmccuaig9867
@ianmccuaig9867 8 ай бұрын
Independence away from the criminal Westminster system
@swanstarr1441
@swanstarr1441 8 ай бұрын
>Redfield and Wilton
@jontalbot1
@jontalbot1 7 ай бұрын
A few observations. First, all national projects fall apart because it is not a coherent ideology. Second, people tire of all governing parties and in democracies vote them out. Neither of these specifically SNP. Then there is the rise of the Labour Party nationally. Most Scots are happier with a Labour rather than Tory government so with the prospect of power Scots will vote for them. The decline of the SNP has not benefitted the Tories.
@kaidenhay
@kaidenhay 8 ай бұрын
TLDR really needs to up their game in terms of the quality of Scottish coverage, the other videos made by TLDR are, in most cases really good, but the ones regarding Scottish politics consistently fail to hit the mark, and in my opinion are nowhere near the quality of other TLDR vids...
@Billiamwoods
@Billiamwoods 8 ай бұрын
I feel like they're honestly more consistently waffling than you give them credit for. I still come here, but you often notice whenever there's an issue of any contention outside of England and maybe Western Europe, they miss or just spin the narrative a bit. The latter is understandable, but for example, basic things like pronunciations should be pretty obvious and kind of tell on them being lazy in their research.
@southafrica73
@southafrica73 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! Well said!
@xb2856
@xb2856 8 ай бұрын
They have a chip on their shoulder on the SNP for some reason
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