What's Inside This PATA SSD from Amazon?

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Thanks PCBWay.com - I spent way too much on a sketchy IDE SSD from Amazon. Is it really what it claims to be? And how does it compare to other SSD solutions for old IDE machines? Especially the open source @dosdude1 native IDE SSD?
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@dosdude1 Жыл бұрын

What a coincidence that the KingSpec drive uses the same chips I decided on. If I had to guess, the only reason it's slower is due to it only having one NAND chip installed, whereas my drive has 4 (for 256GB). Also, the SATA/mSATA SSDs all have DRAM cache on them, which makes the random tests way faster (hence the much higher scores). Unfortunately the SM2236 doesn't support DRAM cache, so I couldn't implement that in my design. That red SATA to IDE adapter you're using is special, in that instead of the garbage JMicron JM20330 SATA-IDE bridge IC that all the other adapters use, it uses a Marvell 88SA8040 or 88SA8052, which are WAY better, and faster in most cases (as shown here). At the end of the day, though, the native IDE drives like mine, the KingSpec, and IDE DOM will be compatible with a much wider array of systems than ANY SATA to IDE adapter.

@NJRoadfan Жыл бұрын

Its likely the CF adapter didn't enable UDMA Mode on the CF card (the commonly available Syba ones do). Those Transend cards should be performing faster. The difference between the DOS Dude card and the Kingspec is likely because the DOS Dude card has more flash chips and the controller is spreading the writes between them, giving a slight speed boost.

@nonenowherebye Жыл бұрын

It all makes pretty good sense.

@ToddsNerdCave Жыл бұрын

Great video! Also totally not surprised by how well the Startech SATA to IDE adapter performs. It's a total champ. I've used the Startech in iMac G3s, Original Xboxs and even an Amiga 4000. It's fast and largely super compatible.

@LatitudeSky Жыл бұрын

The Startech SATA to IDE adapter is what is essentially required for replacing an OG Xbox hard drive with an SSD. There are, of course, lots of other similar adapters, many of which are cheaper. But the Startech adapter works. At least in that application, and the Xbox is extremely picky. None of the others I had work. It just speaks to that adapter being a solid choice. It worked for you. It works in OG Xboxes. It will probably work for others. Great video!

@---li4yn Жыл бұрын

Could the difference in speed between the DosDude and KingSpec SSDs be simply because your DosDude SSD has 256GB in 4 flash chips, vs 64GB in a single chip for the KingSpec? I reckon if you tested a 128GB or 256GB Kingspec its speed might be very similar.

@HrLBolle Жыл бұрын

Sebastian's unmistakable presence haunts this video in the first few seconds, when the drives falls over.

@VeronicaExplains Жыл бұрын

This is so great. I'm hoping to feature a DosDude drive in an upcoming video about a VAIO laptop with IDE. It looks super impressive. Thank you for doing this benchmarking- exceptionally helpful!

@aetch77 Жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised the DODDude's drive beat out the Kingspec. The controller will spread out the data across as many chips as possible so it will read/write to them in parallel making them faster. I

@DaveRJ97 Жыл бұрын

Main reason for dosdude’s SSD being faster than KingSpec is due to capacity, more precisely - number of NAND modules.

@Sparky400 Жыл бұрын

I would assume dosdude1s ssd ran faster as it has more nand flash chips than the kingspec which would allow the controller to write to more disks at once. The larger flash chips might also help as they may have a larger buffer in them.

@dorinxtg Жыл бұрын

Loved your video, but I'm afraid you're wrong about the results (Chinese IDE vs. DosDude's card): The chinese IDE has a single NAND chip while DOSDUDE card has 4, and the read/write NAND is spread across all the available NAND's, so yes, DOSDUDE is faster, but if you would buy a 256GB chinese IDE SSD with 4 NAND chips, you'll get approx. the same results.

@ctrlaltrees Жыл бұрын

Big fan of those "pricey" StarTech SATA to IDE adapters, glad to see that they're worth the money!

@Xenotypal Жыл бұрын

I'd been looking at these lately and wondering myself. Thanks for the vid man, you're a totally underrated channel, been lurking and watching since you put your floppy raid vid out.

@enilenis Жыл бұрын

I have a pair of Roland MC-80 music sequencers. One with a built-in hard drive. Officially they only supported up to 2GB laptop models, and the majority of flash to IDE solutions I tested failed. Online every owner is hunting for that elusive adapter/memory combo that an MC-80 won't reject. The docs only have something like 6 drives listed with 2GB being the absolute largest. Maybe they had an exclusivity deal with a handful of disk manufacturers.

@LoganKaval

Good job DOS Dude!

@chriscalderon1337 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this comparison, you saved me a lot of money on testing these myself! I always wondered how the DoM SSD would compare to SATA to IDE adapter.

@billkalwite728 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for running these tests

@unknownsoldier4156 Жыл бұрын

These are some very, very interesting results that I will be keeping in mind for my IDE shenanigans on all future computers. Many of the industrial PCs I've picked up are IDE only with limited expansion and its nice to know there are options to make them as snappy as possible!

@philiphandforth4390 Жыл бұрын

This was a great video man, I use a lot of different disk solutions myself and having a set of benchmarks like this is actually pretty helpful. I have a startech adapter i was going to put in a windows 98 build and it's good to see it's a solid performer..... I just wish I could get a few of those dos dude ssd's for my my Amigas...