I've never seen a mixed person with 4c hair. It's kinda dope.

Girl your fro is fabs...your curl pattern is type: BEAUTIFUL !! Period nothing else said ...

Yep, I noticed some of the wars over your hair type in the comment sections. I've minded my business about that. Lol. But I did note the tone of some of the defenders against the 4c. Almost as if it would be an insult for you to be born biracial and have type 4 hair. I think it's the underlying ugly of the good hair trope. Which biracial Black Americans have been the main poster children for. But your hair's at a glance aesthetic is type 4c, it seems to have all of the signifiers of 4c. Your hair is gloriously and beautifully type 4. But a lot of people see 4c as a slur. Lol. And I don't think they wanted it for you.

You have all the 4's. I can tell when looking at your hair with different products on it. You may also have multiple strand types, like fine and thick. ❤

It looks like 4c everywhere.. you can have fine textured 4C hair. With 4a and 4b hair, the curls are visible wet or dry and hold.

Your hair is eye candy! It's so thick and healthy looking. Don't forget to let us know once you get a modeling gig. I think that you should also audition for acting or voice over work too. You are so beautiful, and you have the cutest voice. 💟

Omg I'm so happy to see someone who looks like me (light skin and type 4 hair) I haven't come across a lot of light skinned people with kinky hair on youtube! And we have the same hair type!

Joy, everyone knows you're mostly 4C and no one hates you for saying it. Say it loud and say it proud. Also hair texture can change over time, especially as it gets longer and as you age, so those are factors to take in consideration as you go through this journey. I made this reply to someone else but I want to put it here so anyone can see it, but the hate you get is primarily based in pain and jealousy. People don't want you to have 4C hair but people need to come face to face with their own pain from being underrepresented/misrepresented and not loved. In some cases, it's people's self hate that causes them to lash out at you. Biracial women with all types of 4 hair get to be the representation of black hair. When you search every type of black hair texture or go to any commerical or go to any beauty page, biracial women are shown over any black woman. So to say Joy wasn't 4C was a way for those women to keep that texture representation. 4C is the only hair type that you can type in and ONLY see unambigious black women but that is slowly changing and now it seems unambigious black women are losing representation even as we slowly gain it. But we all know that race is interesting. There are people who 80% or more white who have kinky hair textures and even some afro features. We want to be selfish and have something for ourselves and this puts people like Joy in the path of our pain but Joy-El has the hair she has and can't change it. We can't shut people out of type 4 hair even if the media and our own internal hate stops us from seeing unabigious black women as the main form of that type 4 beauty. It's so easy to search our hair type and then see biracial women and feel we still aren't beautiful enough even when we try to be natural. Joy (and Jaleesa Moses) are the only biracial hair youtubers that I follow because they understand this and doesn't try to erase anyone. Joy always gives props, shows love for black women, and represents herself well as a biracial women. She isn't self hating or calling herself the face of black women. Much respect for that.

The back of my hair is the loosest too.

Your hair is absolutely beautiful. I have 4b and 4c hair. I love how you embrace your curl patterns. You are an inspiration.

Your like the first lightskin girl or atleast the lightest black girl I’ve seen with type 4 hair.. it’s BEAUTIFUL AND SO ARE YOU

You're hair is really similar to my hair. I love your hair it's gorgeous, I almost get teary eyed because it took me a while to love my hair and watching your videos since the beginning. It has really made me feel more amazing about my hair. Thank you Type 4 sounds good to me🥰😁

I’m mixed and I have the same texture as you!!! I’m also very light complected like you. I never thought I would meet someone mixed that has the same texture as me! I even have that same 3c pattern just above my neck lol. When I was younger, my hair was like no where near 4b/4c (it was a lot looser). I got a relaxer when I was around 9-14 years old because my mom did not know how to take care of my hair curly. When I decided to go natural, I noticed my texture was a lot tighter and thicker than it was when I was younger. I love it though. It’s so beautiful and I have learned to embrace it and take care of it the right way. You are so inspiring and I will continue to watch your journey. Much love💜

I normally don't comment but I just find it so interesting that we literally started our journeys at the same time and practically have the same hair type(s) and it acts the same. Shoot even the location of those hair type(s) is the same as well. You are literally my hair twin!!!

4c with combination like you said.

I saw your video today and I love your postive truthfulness of your hairr journey and I wanted to mention that I have similar hair like yours and towards the back of my hair like yours it’s the same lose curls which blows and kinda irates me at the same time, and add I find your hair videos very encouraging 😊.

No Knows Hair has a great video on types and textures that goes deeper into: texture, density, porosity etc... I too have many patterns- losser it in top front, tight coils on the temples, a random patch at my back crown that is loose kinky and coarse.

Sharmaine, I have followed your natural hair journey and I must say I love your hair and the more it grows, the more gorgeous it is. I see some 3c at the nape and you have 4B, 4C and a sprinkling of 4A in other sections of your head. I meant to comment that when you did the wash and go but I didn't want to start a curl pattern war in the comment section. I'm 4A/3C and my curls remain quite visible when dry until the next wash day. You definitely have a lot of definition at the nape.

I can't believe I'm just finding video. Definitely relate to defining my curl type as just type 4. I similar to you have combination of all the type 4's and maybe a little 3c at the back and it's just easier when people ask my hair type to say type 4. You're hair is gorgeous by the way.

Your hair is so beautiful and looks great on you!

First let me say, THANK YOU!! I’m LOVING this video, and your hair is absolutely GORGEOUS!! There isn’t many influencers with our hair type out here, so thanks again!! A light complected women WITH a gorgeous head of texture 4 curls and coils......It’s nice to see some representation. I’ve never been the best at doing my hair. I found it particularly frustrating trying to copy the tutorials of influencers with hair that was NOTHING like mine. Especially when I was newly natural and thinking that if I used “that” product, and “that” technique, I’d get ”that” result. It did nothing but set me up for failure, upset, frustration and ultimately the disappointment of an unattainable goal. Honestly, this, what you’ve described in your video, THIS IS MY HAIR!! LOL Soooooooooo If anyone gets butt-hurt about labeling 4c hair......TOO BAD, SOOOOOOO SAD!! 😝 LOL I have a 1/2 inch ring 3c running all around the perimeter of the back and sides of my hair. I have type 4 a, b & c curls. And in the crown I have type 4c coils. In the front I have weird z pattern, type 4b mixed with who-know’s-what😳🤦🏽‍♀️ Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE MY HAIR!!! I also firmly believe that are several types of 4c hair. Silky, In-between and Coarse, all of which can be a combination of, wavy, coily and extremely coily (where it’s hard to see the definition. The strands are frizziest, finest, prone to tangling and braking). Of course these are simply my opinions and observations of the differences between my own hair, and that of those of friends, family members.

You've just described my hair exactly! You are a big help in my process, too.

What I just learned about the type 4 A B C is that 4c was last to be added to the hair typing list but basically 4a hair is the s/spiral shape curls, 4b hair is the z/zigzag shape and 4c is basically 4a hair just way smaller curls. Type 4c hair gets a rep for having no curl definition but the curls are just small and when moisturized the curls POP

I like to use The Green Beauty's hair typing system! It's so thorough. Your hair looks unbelievably cute in this 😭♥️

I'm so pleased I've stumbled upon your channel! Like its given me some confidence to finally start my own. I'm mixed race my dad is African American and my mum is white Scottish. I'm lighter skinned but I have 4a hair type. I also have a little girl who has a white father, but her hair is super duper fine and soft texture but is like a 4a curl pattern. I really want to start my own channel for other girls like us too (For ALL women may I add) but man it's nice seeing someone similar to myself and my daughter ❤

I'm not biracial, but I am afro-latina, and I also have that random 3C patch at the back of my hair! LOL. I think my pattern matches yours. I am 4C in the front, and 4A/4B everywhere else. Wow, I never knew how to figure it out until I saw yours. Thank you.

I agree. I think you have a combo type 4 hair as do I. I also have small areas that may be type 3. No big deal cause like you said, “healthier hair is good hair.” Enjoy your vids.

I am so glad to see you. I have been going crazy because I hve three textures on my head and my family thinks I'm crazy.This makes it difficult to take care of my hair. I'm trying to and I have low porosity hair too. I'll be tuning in. Thank youu.

I always put type 4 in my videos as well because my head has a bunch of different textures, even some straight pieces but.... mostly type 4 and thats how I identify. I think porosity matters the most....just my opinion. Great video!

I knew you were multi-textured back when you did your wash n go with the kinky curly line. Welcome to the three textures club😹😂🤣🤣🥳 since I do wash n go’s mainly, I know the struggle of different areas/patches doing totally different things. Type 4 is safe and covers it all. I’ve found knowing the texture type is more important if you are trying to replicate someone else’s styling but knowing porosity is most important. I can’t believe people are arguing😹😂

It’s so cool to see a white passing like you with my kind of hair I love ur eyes by the way

This video made me so happy! Not only did i enjoy listening to you but my name is Joy as well and I just started figuring out what my natural hair type is which is a mix of 4a, b, and c! Thankyou for sharing! You are beautiful!

You have a rock star fro. I'm actually combing my locs out now after 3 years to see mine again,I miss queen fro

Wow, your hair looks the closest to mine that I've seen so far. Pillowy, cottony, dusty dark brown. I'm surprised you're not high porosity as well!

I so agree with you when you said many people have different textures on their heads. I have mostly 3c but i have 3b on the top of my head and the very back and the kicker- 4a on the sides of my head! my hair looks so odd cuz the sides have so much shrinkage compared to the rest lol

I think you are my hair twin 😍. The way you describe your hair is the way mine is almost to a T, and we have around the same amount of length too

A mix person with 4C hair 😲😎. It makes you even more Unique, then you already are

Yours is very similar to mine: very fine/smooth nape area that I inherited from my grandmother 😊 just stick to type 4 girl 😉 I've noticed that as hair grows, patterns seem to change due to gravity taking hold of each strand... but like you said, as long as it's healthy it's all good 😎 stay safe & take care ❤

I love your hair and it looks healthy too!

I can totally relate with you. I have 3c on my sides and nape, then 4a from my crown to the front of my head.each section of my hair has to be treated differently because the hair types respond to products differently. Thanks so much for this video 🙂👍🏽

As someone mixed, I love your channel. I see myself represented, even though we don't have the same hair type, I love hearing your experience and how you feel, and you just get it.

New subscriber this is actually the first video I’ve ever seen of yours. I can relate about having different patterns we have a similar texture!!

I see a combination of all 4s. Your hair is beautiful!

I def can relate to different textures in my hair. I, too have to use a lit of product toward the front, the crown is more kinkier and the back is a looser curl.

That makes sense that you have a combination. The hair in the front of my head is stick straight but the middle is slightly wazy and the very back starts to curl. Your hair is so beautiful. 😍 Thick and luxurious. ❤️

Your hair is so beautiful!

I sport all of the 4’s on my head 🥰🧑🏾‍🦱

Your hair is so bomb!!!

I’ve never seen a mix person with your texture of hair. I think you’re so unique and pretty. Awesome video.

Your hair is so pretty!

I think you're a mixture of type 4 also! I swore my big chop almost 4 yrs. ago was going to result in the sweetest Angela Davis-style afro, but after a spray of water and some finger coiling, I looked like a grown-@$$ chocolate Shirley Temple, lol! As my hair has grown, my curl pattern has diverged so much from the one I originally thought I had, that it's crazy. I have type 3 loose curls in front(like, scrunch in your hand to help it curl loose), 3 and 4a/b on the sides, 4a/b in the back, 4b/c at the crown, and a 4c perimeter, just to keep it interesting. I love a good twistout, and I won't dare attempt a wng at my length now(past bsl) for fear of looking like a mental patient with my wild textures and uneven-looking hair(especially in Texas heat/humidity!), though I generally bun it anyway. Like you said, Joy-el, healthy hair IS good hair, regardless of pattern! Tyfs! ♡

We definitely have similar hair. when I put on styling gel, I have to put a lot in as well, but when my hair is completely dry.

girl, we got the same texture. 4a,4b,4c and all of its glory!! im the same way, my curl pattern in the crown is very loose like 4a, it also stays defined after it dries. the top and back of my head is 4b. the middle of my nape is 4a, and the bare end of it is 4b. my temples are 4c but my edges are very loose baby hairs (which is weird). my strands are thicker in the 4a section and finer in the 4b-4c sections. when it all dries.... my temples shrink up SO MUCH.... giving the appearance that my afro is uneven. its so kinky that it literally does not curl unless i have tons of product on it. i love my hair, i primarily keep it in twists now to retain length, especially now that we're in quarantine. my go-to hairstyles are loose puffs.

I love your channel. Be well and bloom!!!

Wow you look sooooooo BEAUTIFUL! 😍😍😍😍

You have beautiful hair. I have a combo too of different type 4s. The back of my hair is the most dense while the front is a loser curl. The crown is the thinnest. I wish mine was more dense like yours.

You're just like me! My hair is a mixture of all four 🙌

That's some thick, healthy beautiful hair!!!

It's so interesting that I think I have the same curl types in the same areas as you: 4A in the front and above my ears, 4B/4C from the crown to nearly the back and 3B/3C at the nape.

You're right just say Type 4 hair, don't stress it Sweetie. Many of us have multiple textures. I recently discovered this about my hair and I am in my 60's! Up until then always thought my hair was 4C but now I know better. 🥰

Awe that’s so cute! 💗 my hair reacts to wash and go’s exactly the same lol my moms hair on the other hair can hold a curl but my thick beautiful hair only allows wash and go’s to nicely moisturize lol I also end up with a beautiful Afro 💗 on the contrary, that does not mean you or I have 4c hair because Ive witnessed the real 4c lol -new sub btw 🥰

I’m definitely type 4. Took me awhile determine that as I explored my curl patterns and textures.

That shadow is for YOU!!! Really pops your eyes

Love your afro!

This is about the 1 of the few youtubers i've found exactly like my hair type, it's clearly 4C maybe a mixture of 4b at the back, but mainly 4C, mine is also the same, i don't think anyone had one curl pattern anyway. I feel like i'm watching tutorials for my hair, finally! Instead of others tryinh to manipulate their hair to be 4A/4B or looser. I feel like people associate 4C with just dry undefined hair, but this is an example of moisturised healthy 4C hair! Especially when wet or conditioner in it you can see you curls pop more but then when it's dry not as visible and yeah her hair didn't shrink as much because her hair is longggg now, look at her old video. 4C is not limited to just being fully black, i think people confuse the take down of braids or dry, pending a well needed deep conditioner for being 4C hair, not looked after hair, constantly put into protective styles to avoid taking care of it and hidden under weaves when that is just dry, not nourished hair!! 4C is hard work but this type of hair needs extra care compared to other hair types and this is a clear example of 4C hair being well taken care of, but quickly dismissed as being 4B or 4A because it looks well moisturised and you can see definition when wet. If i could show you my 4C hair when i neglected with weaves/ protective styles for long periods of time, to now, you will know what i mean. 4C is beautiful lets embrace it! I love how it's like the most unique hair textures of all! I love how she's embracing and showing how she works with it.

I have so enjoyed your hair journey. Although I don't have the same curl pattern as you, you are still one of my faves 🥰

Sending love from MOMBASA Kenya. I pray you and your loved ones are all safe 😍😘😚😘😘✊❤

I’ve got the exact same situation with my hair! I have all 3 types of type 4 on my head with the front being the softest and more curly than coily looking. For that reason it looks odd when I try to wear my hair in a fro. At least I think it does anyways

You are beautiful regardless of THE A,B,C'S of hair type!!

Your hair is like mines that's why I love your channel.

I love your hair, it's so beautiful

You've just described my hair around my head! I too don't really get too stressed about the ABCs so much because it seems most of us in the 4 category have multiple curl patterns....kinkiest at center/crown.... LOL. Though I understand the ABCs represents progressively tighter curls/coils, etc.

💖✨ My hair is just like yours, and I couldn't figure mine out either! Just like you, I concluded that my hair is 4b as well-- with very soft baby hairs in the front and back-- then it turns very coarse towards the middle.✨ CONFUSING!!! But I'm so glad that I caught your video because I KNOW that I'm not 4c. And just like you, I'm probably somewhere between 4a and 4b. 💋 (Yes... I'm trying to figure it out, too.) ✨

You're a mix of all Type 4. Btw, I ❤ your fro!

Your type 4 hair is beautiful...you definitely have type 4 hair and so what i have type 4 hair and type 4 hair is GORGEOUS PERIOD

Omg you are beautiful! 🥰

Sis u look like my sister from another mother ! Same skin complection and same type of hair that’s crazy !!! 🤩 love it !

I think our curl patterns are diagrammed the same way on our heads. Fascinating.

I'm watching my hair grow back from a short cut and I'm seeing changes in texture too. It's quite interesting. I'm 4b with some 4a and high porosity

So happy you did this segment! I’m a 4 type but definitely have to say I’m a mix of 4b and 4c. But it was crazy because my kids are 4a and 3c. My hubby is bald! Lol!!

Either way it’s beautiful 😍

Your fro is beautiful!

I love your hair! You are So beautiful!

Your hair type is whatever you want it to be 🙂✨ it’s pretty

I think you have a variety of textures. I am the same, I have a bit of 4a at the nape, but overall 4b but have a patch on 4c right at the front of my head. It seems to me that probably because your hair is getting longer so is starting to droop due to its own weight as it does generally look looser than when you first started your journey. You look beautiful as always.

Literally was thinking the exact same thing about my hair!!! I also have low porosity with looser curls at the back of my head! And I've also just assumed I was 4C 🤷🏽‍♀️ now I'm rethinking that and wondering how I can bring out more definition in my strands.

Pretty girl. Luscious, healthy head of hair. Love it.

I feel like you’re my hair twin! And I am with you. I just say type 4 low porosity because there are 4 types of hair on my head from 3c to 4c and in the between! OH! And one side of my head is medium porosity and the other totally low porosity. It’s like I am two people split in half in my head! LOL!!!

I have a very loose patch on the nape of my neck too. It’s always the easiest to comb and style. It also doesn’t fall in line with the rest of my hair and the shrinkage is different. It always hangs lower 🤦🏾‍♀️

Damn your hair is growing so fast it’s gorgeous😃

You are so pretty, such a unique beauty.

I have type4 of many patterns also. Your hair has grown so long since your big chop. You have a lot of hair.

Youre the first person I’ve seen with similar hair to mine and I’ve checked your other videos

i have the same hair type as yours. literally! so i can relate when you dont have a specific type

wowwwww finally a youtuber with hair just like mine ! including the loose curl at the back omg 😱 😭 💜

Your hair is so pretty

Thanks for this. I’m mixed with 4 c hair, subscribing!

You got the best of both worlds so beautiful

Your hair is sooo beautiful and yess girl I understand 4c is not easy 😭😭 my hair is kinda like yours I'm a mixture of 3c and 4c textures Im just now learning to take care of my hair and this helps I'm full black tho

Tension can also change your pattern Great video!