Yes this.

I remember reading an article saying they want their next project to be smaller in scale. I think they put a lot of love in BG3, but from what I've seen it seems like they don't want to stay "The BG guys." It'd be nice, and probably the scale they appreciate, if they returned to that Divinity Tactical RPG they were working on, the one that looked like Fire Emblem with D:OS characters and Beast had a blunderbuss. BG3 forced them to put that on indefinite hiatus

​@tincano-beans2114 There's actually a ton of stuff in act 3 but you have to look around quite a bit

@@tincano-beans2114 Yeah, act 3 completely ruined the game for me. Especially since I romanced Karlach. I hate this game now.

@@theobell2002 Act 3 is great idk what ppl are bitching about. The lack of epilogue slides is whats awful.

@@zeloraz8101 No, it's not. From buggy quests to bs fights, it was an awful experience.

Honestly, everything I'm hearing about act 3 and the ending is making me less and less excited to play. I hate how Larian front loads all the good stuff in the first half and then everything after that is just hot garbage.

Yeah the game was too short and the world was far too empty as well as too little dialogue. They need to “give in” and give us more. We need some DLC .

But what dlc make sense in Baldur's Gate 3 story though?

@@blushingralseiuwu2222 feel like a good expansion may be just more in terms of dialogue and maybe expanding more quests. I don’t know how expansions will work with the level cap with DnD

@@brandonyoung4910 And the after credits didnt help it like come on

@@blushingralseiuwu2222 Cough* Jergal Cough*

They've said in the past that this is near impossible. Best bet is whatever modders can come up when we get mod tools

Another question would be whether WOTC would allow them to do that.

Some kind of map editor like in starcraft would be awesome

Although it would be cool, as some other comments pointed out: a) Swen said in an interview it wasn’t happening and b) it would step way too heavily on WOTC’s toes as they are bringing out a 5e-focused VTT. I would bet my left hand it not adding one was part of the BG contract.

Didn't they try that for Divinity Original Sin 2?

We need an Expansion!

Play as Karlach if you want a happy ending for her.

I think it'd be cool if they add an Avernus section to the base game for free (especially if it was indeed cut content), have it mesh well enough with the game and Karlach's story, but ALSO do their expansion through the Hells (not just Avernus?). Carry our character forward or maybe let us use a new one, adjust the Mindflayer options so its not so pushy we uh... can that thing we can do with that in Act 3, but get our more triumphant or poetic end, while having bigger doors open for what a BG4 could be. Act 4 in Hell(s) just sounds hot. Avernus can be added to the base game as a test - it wouldn't be just there for nothing, but an introduction to mechanics and concepts they'll put in the expansion.

You know something I've noticed since I started my second run, a lot of the lacking amount of interactions is just bugs, missing content triggers, dialogue getting overwritten by progressing too fast (especially as it concerns increasing approval), etc. On this run I have been very careful to talk to every character whenever I even think they might have a new dialogue and truly going over every part of the map with a fine-tooth comb, and I am realizing I missed an absolute mountain of dialogue. Just in Act 1 so far, 50%+ of the dialogue from Astarion is dialogue I've never even heard before (because on the first run I completely missed the Putrid Bog), I discovered new conversations you can have with your companions that the game doesn't say is there when it triggers (such as after you encounter Raphael for the first time, all of the companions update with a long conversation about their own reactions), and long resting more often has led to more new camp scenes that I didn't even see in my first playthrough. Even in the first playthrough I saw a bunch of points where I very obviously missed dialogue. On my first run I missed out on every single companion's initial reaction to the dream guardian's first appearance, because by the time I talked to them I had already triggered the second scene with the guardian and it replaces that initial dialogue with something completely new. I really hope even more than them adding content, they actually make sure you're seeing all of the content that *is* there.

@@nikidelvalle yes i hope there comes out either a mod that indicates when a new dialogue is ready or that larian themselves implement it.

@@fakesilver746 That would be very nice yes. I also think they need to slow down how fast companion approval goes up, and maybe introduce a few systems that mete out new companion dialogue a bit slower over the course of the game so that they still have interesting things to talk about going into Act 3. Speaking of by the way, I've been playing with the mod "Approval Tweaks", it's been really helping me see a lot more companion dialogue on my second run. I have been a little sad about how it makes the companions a bit more initially hostile but it really helps pace out their content better.

It does not need one but neither did Bloodborne and the Witcher 3 and both games had top tier expansions.

Yeah, first fix ending scenes because Karlach's scene is blocking some to appear, and then add some epilogue for the world, each companion and allies who survive battle etc

@@mammozdzierzwdupie yeah same here, got the emotional scene with Karlach and Wyll, after that i got Astarions little End-Sentence and then it was like there was no time for the rest anymore, not even my romance partner said anything to me. It was like Karlach/Wyll "We are off!" and Astarion "I better go!", then credits. Like no real conclusion. Dont get me wrong i loved the game but i really thing the ending needs work as it seems rushed to oblivion.

@@TheHorreK2 I plan to let her die for that lol, only way to get significant other scene. Such a mess. Endings should become their priority as more and more people going to finish the game. Can handle fps drops or missing va from time to time, but spending long hours just to get nothing at the end leaves bad taste.

@@mammozdzierzwdupie yeah, i mean it isnt something unusual for larian that there is a dropp off from start to finish and i love the game (i think its their best work) but after so much content and interactions it really feels like there was a hard cut at the end

So here's a thought... Neverwinter Nights 3 already exists, it's called Solasta Crown of the Magister. The thing is, Neverwinter Nights was never really a game, it was a platform for people to create their own content. That role is now more than adequately filled by the amazing tools offered by Solasta's Dungeon Maker mode and the modding tools that have been released which expands its usability. Also, if Larian were to make Neverwinter Nights 3, what are the chances they'll end up making the same mistake Obsidian made on an even larger scale? What are the chances that instead of prioritizing a game that's easy for your average joe to make content for, they just use all the stuff they already made for Baldur's Gate 3? Neverwinter Nights 3 doesn't need some complex cutscene tool meant for mocapped footage and voice acting, super high-fidelity graphics, and a focus on open world zones. It needs to have tools that make it incredibly easy for average people to make modular, bespoke content leveraging the mechanical framework of D&D... which is exactly what Solasta does. It even carries on the legacy of Neverwinter Nights by having a really boring main campaign that comes across more as a template for other people to emulate than anything legitimately creative. I will say that Solasta's tools could still do more (and especially they could be backed by the actual license), but that's why we should encourage them to make a sequel with even more comprehensive tools.

You do have a point there, I'll admit. The thing that made Neverwinter Nights special was the Aurora toolset. The sheer amount of options and possibilities it enabled for content creation was - perhaps still is - unmatched. Having said that, I'm familiar with Solasta, but only played the official campaign (and I really liked the algorithm they had for character voices and personalities). Is Solasta's editor truly that good? It can equal or even surpass the Aurora toolset?

I still occasionally play it. It's so good.

@@Iceisnice1 I'm not sure if it's as good as aurora or not, I was too young to use those tools back in the day. What I can say is that what Solasta does is very impressive and in ways I can almost guarantee are better in some ways than they were back in the day. Solasta's mapping tool is amazing, the implementation of 5E's mechanics is extremely loyal, it has a fully featured system for dialogue and linking together modules to create campaigns, it has a huge catalogue of monsters to draw from complimented by even more added by modders who have done a wonderful job expanding the tool even further. I don't think the community has even fully explored the possibilities of the toolset yet, but as the games popularity grows over the course of TA's future projects I'm sure we're going to see them shine more and more. And I hope that the tool keeps being developed, as I said before hopefully in a sequel. Because IMO, if anyone's going to make Neverwinter Nights 3, it's Tactical Adventures. They've basically already gotten a huge head start on it.

@@nikidelvalle The existence of Solasta does not in any way interfere with the option of Larian making a "Neverwinter Nights 3" game. Make Your Own Game platforms and toolsets aren't really Larian's thing but they could certainly make a game similar to BG3 set in Neverwinter to take on the mantle of that series of games. Whether they want to or not is a different matter of course, but I for one would really like to see them do this.

I would love playing the Artificer to death.

yea, i really thought about all the possibilities a artificer could have dealing with the stealwatch. Would be fun

@@sunfire5518 The problem is more than just mechanical with Artificer's when it comes to The Forgotten Realms. In the lore they only hail from one specific Island I believe and even then there are only a very small handful of them that even exist. If I remember correctly that class was really designed for an Eberron setting which would admittedly be a pretty banging next game for Larian.

It was indeed a very weird title

Classic D&D titles will bring them even more money and recognition. Imo it's their goal, to work with WotC, though I think that their next game will be DoS3 but next titles are gonna be D&D ones.

Might be in the minority here, but I also much prefer playing D:OS 2, as great and successful as BG3 is.

The Problem for their Original Sin Games are that they do not profit from such a polished Game System like DND5 Edition. People tend to underrate how big the DND Community is. It will for sure have less player then a DND Game.

I do believe they would of purchased the licence before development of the game. I've not heard of developers giving out IP licenses for a % take of the sale. Its usually a front up cost, but i am open to be wrong.

​@@TheR6R6RI somewhat agree with you. I like the DOS2 combat better.

We are missing come classes for companions. Sorcerer, Monk, Bard, Ranger. And some existing companions are not quite done (whether out of a bug to be fixed, or bad story pacing, or having fewer resources put to them by the end of development. People could love Artificer too. I don't think we need more than this one class though - but robust modding tools could work miracles. We don't need more Origin characters or expanding Origin to some non-Origin Companions, but if Larian went full bore into the game and added 1+ more, even just to experiment for the sake of their next title, few would complain.

Shame they keep trying to force some sort of management into it. The crusade is pretty annoying.

They've explicitly said they don't want to do higher level content.

Sadly, this probably won't happen as larian has already spoken about how problematic the higher tier of spells will be to animate

​@@aleef133 So how Owlcat did this in both Pathfinder games, and you have animations of high level spells, but much bigger studio with more money can't 😂. Seriously it's funny 😅. I can't believe it's a real, main reason for stopping at 12th level.

@@marcinczyzewski5021 It is not about the animations but the mechanics. Some things just cannot be done in a videogame with the level of detail that Larian puts into the narrative elements in the game. They of course could change these spells into something else, but maybe they dont want to. Owlcat implement those spells but the narrative posibilities in their games are just a couple steps below Larian, and it is thus simpler.

They made one in DOS2 and barely anybody used it. It's not worth it to develop it.

@@TheoM30 I know that they made one in Divinity 2 and I spend around 2,000 hours with friends in the Dungeonmaster mode alone. Its an awsome addition and had a good community which made typical PnP adventures to download and play with a group. So maybe only a few people used it but boy did we use that mode. If you havent used it and like pen and paper I would suggest gather a party get familiar with the GM controls and go and try it.

Vampire Masquerade is cursed

Dude, a modernized version of Arcanum would be fucking nuts. It's a pipe dream, but I hope it happens someday.

@@bojackhorseman4176 duuuude absolutelyyyyyyyyyy I think Id quit life entirely, just imagine Larian doing a modern (well given it would take some years, SUPER MODERN) Arcanum.... it would be INSANE

More origin characters would seem like the best way to add to the games longevity without breaking what's already there. You are right there is so much unexplored potential with the range of races and classes for some really fascinating companions.

Bruh... You have an alien (pure novelty), a (not) devil (female because ofc), a black man, a white man (must have in every crpg!), An elf (or half elf, whatever, it changes nothing), and a vampirr. Then you can recruit a Drow, an elf and a guy. You have to think from a game designer perspective. How many people would like to hang out with gale? Probably everyone because he's like garus from mass effect, just a great dude. Now if he was an orc? Yeah, that would suck.

@@CJ-wh7ik what would be nice is a halfling or gnome to help with tiny holes without having to use one of my shapeshift charges.

@@duo317 play one. Ah right, least played race Also, there are always multiple ways to do everything in the game

@@CJ-wh7ik no

Yes give us Larian KOTOR!

would be cool another action rpg,

Couldn't they just do a spin-off smaller game instead?

I'd like them to take all the mechanics from the main game and release a separate empty realm that can be modded to create custom campaigns for coop experiences. Increase the level caps, and let DMs balance their own experiences.

they just need to put a npc that you talk to in the game and he takes you by boat or something else to the new dlc like for example a dlc in waterdeep or neverwinter with a brand new map unrelated to the base game

They should have a good system in place to tackle that.

@@sanderkiki Certain choices in the end of BG3 won't matter so much if you take the story multiplanar/hells and most things out there are your enemy anyway, instead of often an ally on the Physical Plane. They don't have as much obligation to make you (more easily) a wandering hero adventurer. Also there could be some story twist that softens up your... squishy situation you might be in. I don't know what that'd be, but I wouldn't be opposed to a first portion of an expansion that acts as 'are you SURE you want to be in the form of X? last chance! we can fix you!' then you let the chips fall.

It's got really great moments, bugs aside. But the finale epilogue is laughably bad - Like they stitched it together in the final 2 days before release lol.

I haven't personally played the game yet, but I'm seeing a lot of complaints about the third act and the "underwhelming" ending, all this keeps me from playing it because I don't wasnt to invest time into the game just to be underwhelmed by the end of it all ( I take my sweet time with these types of games). That said, the question is, will Larian "fix" the problems with the 3rd act? do they know what people disliked or that if it can be fixed? or is there any word that they will do something about it if they can? or is it a case of "it is what it is"? I know with patches the bugs and technical issues will be mostly or even compleltely gone as the time goes on, but it's the other stuff I've seen people that worries me like the abrupt and underwhelming endings, the lacking companion interactions, and epilogues, etc.

@@LP1ToTheEndOfTime Act 3 is only considered 'bad' in relation to an absolutely near perfect Act 1 and 2, it's still really good. BG3 is probably the best game that's come out since RDR2 in 2018 - You'll love it mate, it's well worth a buy.

Just playing through the game alone there's plenty of things dependent on player character choice that can be wrapped up post game too that has to tie in with Avernus as well, personally I'd rather see it as a sequel rather than a prequel, but all in all I love the idea of us getting to go to Larian's take on Avernus. Be it a expansion to the game itself, or be it a new game itself, I'd pay for it.

Smart to re-use assets but it would most likely become boring to explore a city twice. The idea is great though, DiA could be a great adventure. I would love if they followed the dnd model of things. Just churn out great adventures 1-12 and add new races, subclasses, spells, items and monsters. If we're on the topic of reusing assets - then that is the real deal.

@@kattpuzn Ties in well with all the Tieflings saying they're refugees from Elturel but other than that not to much going on , so in that sense it could work as a prequel. The only tie in characters I could possibly see though are like Karlach, Rafael, Mizora. It's an interesting concept, but the more and more I think about it it'd probably be better off as its own game. In any regards I do think Larian would smash it out of the park and seeing DiA as a experience like BG3 and just envisioning it is kinda an exciting prospect. Would love to see the Blood War explored this way in a game.

skyrim level modding for a dnd game would be dope

This one i disagree, Harebrain did a good job and they want to make another

@@clauro6153 sure they did, it's just it would be cool to see Shadowrun or actually any Cyberpunk RPG being made with the same level of interactivity, reactivity and variation as BG3.

There also has to be SOME middle ground between Lv 12 and the near godly Lv 18-20. They moved the Lv cap from 10 to 12 internally, they could surely find a way to bring it to around 14-15.

They could also divest some of their international arms rather than simply laying them off. There are now 7(?) established teams who are experienced and have a good workflow so you COULD actually just sell one or two.

It sounds like they will be getting mod tools / mod support out there eventually!

I agree but I also think Lv 14-15 isn't necessarily impossible. If no expansion pack, then sure, more subclasses, artificer, maybe even companions and adding to stories of current ones. If yes expansion pack, I wouldn't mind seeing their approach to some higher levels, even if not Lv 20 or something.

Yes!! Other systems would be awesome

If they're going to do more than re-add cut content, yes that probably means going all into the project that in some ways doesn't work so easily. Its not impossible if they want to support the game 2-4 years further, but they likely only want to do 1-2 years max with the way they're phrasing things currently.