Still looking forward to John's "state of VR" video! We're a ways off from mainstream adoption, but it's a really exciting medium that deserves more coverage.

Its amazing both options aren’t even made for PCs and somehow have become the best way to use PCVR… on a budget 😅

Everyone wants to ignore the substantial remote streaming latency on Quest. You lose that latency when using a cabled DisplayPort headset. If you're not playing fast action games where your reaction time matters, then Quest is fine. But if reaction time matters, PSVR2 has an insurmountable advantage in the comparison. I own both Quest 3 and PSVR2. And I'd say the comparison between them is not simple. I wouldn't simply declare one the winner. It really depends on your use cases and what aspects you value more. The Quest 3 has better lenses, but the PSVR2 has better panels. I think most people will favor Quest 3 on that part of the comparison, but not everyone. The PSVR2's colors and contrast are much more vibrant. If we're talking PCVR only, my choice would be the PSVR2. For me, the latency on Quest is a no go. I play too many fast action games. And I have done A-B comparisons between Quest 3 and PCVR headsets like the Bigscreen Beyond, Index, and Pimax 8KX and Crystal... and the latency is apparent and meaningfully affects game play in fast action games. If you're considering gaming outside of PCVR though, Quest 3 clearly has more support than PSVR2 where Sony has been lukewarm in their support at best. And, as mentioned, Quest has wireless support, so for some users that's an insurmountable advantage. But also keep in mind this means there's a battery and limited run time. The X factor is what happens with eye tracking. This isn't officially being supported for PCVR on the PSVR2, but I think it's very likely to be supported through opensource. And that is huge for some use cases, particularly for flight simmers and VRChat users.

As someone who's owns both headsets I enjoy playing VR games on my PSVR2 more than my on my Quest 3 but I use my Quest 3 more as I use alot of Mixed Reality apps for fitness music production and content watching with the KZfaq app but in Mixed Reality and the KZfaq app does not have Mixed Reality on the PSVR2 so as a all round headset that does it all in terms of its ability to play Mixed Reality games and VR games the Quest 3 but if your only looking to just play VR games and nothing else then just get the PSVR2 as it's the most immersive VR Headset ever as the headset has rumble and with the adaptive triggers on the controllers it's top notch

As someone that only does vr while sitting I could careless about the wire

Right now I'm still debating, you can buy a used PSVR2 for almost half the original price, which might be a good option for some. You still have to buy the adapter though.

I own both and if you play standalone quest 3 the best you can with play with great visuals is Asgard’s Wrath 2 for a AAA experience. I played Star Wars immortal on the quest 3 standalone and at times it felts so PS2 and was so blurry. As the game plays out in dark settings it was incredibly difficult to see a damn thing. It ruined my experience of the game. When I play PS5 PSVR 2 no mater the setting games like horizon call of the mountain or dark like resident evil, there is a standard set that the PCVR always delivers. In bright games though the quest 3 beats it in clarity of the image not to be confused with details which the PSVR2 hands down wins. Along with Haptics and the headset rumble combined with the 3D audio headset and OLED for deep blacks the PSVR 2 has its place alongside the Quest 3. The new aliens VR game is coming out and there’s no way I’m not getting it on PSVR 2 to feel the haptics, 3D audio and OLED benefits. In regards to the Quest 3 I’m still building my PC and I’ve only tried Half Life Alyx on my older GTX970. That blew me away even with an old GPU. So when I get a new PC with an RTX4070 ti Super I will be able to give a fairer impression of the PCVR side. At the moment standalone Quest 3 vs PSVR 2 is no competition. PSVR 2 has a proper dedicated GPU and blows the Quest 3 out the water. It could all change when I have a proper set up.

Quest 3 for sure has better lenses but strictly for PCVR with the PSVR2 you will be getting a display port uncompressed image whereas Quest is compressed through usb. It can get pretty good if playing at 90hz/900mbs but it’s not the same as display port. I also found the psvr2 has better FOV and the OLED blacks are very nice even if there is mura.

If you have a ps5, it’s not even a question. You get to have GT7, resi 8 and half life Alyx in the same library. And these are like big AAA games that quest and another VR headsets can’t dream of. So yeah psVR2 is leagues ahead.

My issue is with Meta as a company, and the way they've handled Oculus. Having said that, I also have issues with Sony as a company, and since Microsoft deprecated WMR, now my Reverb G2 has a ticking clock on it. It's painful to try to get a VR headset for a reasonable price if you're worried about getting shafted later on!

Psvr2 for me

Own both play psvr2 far more. It gets the upgraded versions of games and look far better, check comparisons online of galaxy edge, saints and sinners, behemoth, thumper, wanderer etc. i love the true blacks, adaptive triggers, wider field of view, head haptics, dfr, ability to play flat games and plug in steering wheels etc.

Meta Quest 3 - significantly higher PPD - pancake lenses - full RGB Subpixels, no pentile layout - no mura - wireless PCVR - Asgards Wrath 2, Assassins Creed Nexus, Batman Arkham Shadow + ongoing support - no Pc Adapter necessary - swapable Head Strap for individual comfort - easy pick up and play - play everywhere, not just in front of your console/pc where you might not have the free space for VR PSVR2 - Oled - HDR - haptics/vibration - Horizon CotM and GT7 - direct video connection

The PC adapter isn’t even out yet for PSVR2 so how can they make this determination.

I also have both, and now the PC adapter for PSVR2 is out, I made my own comparison, and quest 3 wins for me, just because of the lenses. I'm wired on both to get the best out of the Quest3, i9, 4080 super, 90Hz on both, trying to get as apple to apple as possible. Sony did a great job with the PC adapter, the user experience/journey between PSVR2 and Quest3 on SteamVR is pretty much the same, get the app, launch it, headset on, and go (minus the bluetooth thing for PSVR2 controllers but no issue there for me worked straight away with builtin BT). Controllers feel good on both, feedback is decent and feels similar. And now we're able to play the exact same thing on both, I have to say, even though PSVR2 is brighter and deeper in the blacks, it's just soooo blurry because of those lenses....PC VR is more about the whole experience, getting more text and detail all around, and the blurry PSVR2 doesn't work here IMO, nothing is clear unless you look right in that direction. Quest3 is just more enjoyable in that regards, text on the side is still clear enough, the clarity and wider sharp area definitely makes you forget the LCD panel and the streaming/compression of the Quest Link (vs. the straight DP of the PSVR2), which is barely noticeable. I get why Sony did the PC adapter, I still love the PSVR2 for what it is (as a great companion for the PS5), so I got the PC adapter, but at that point it almost feels like I did that for moral support! The more it goes, the more pancake lenses are just making the difference over anything else.

Does the wireless headset option depend of level of pc required and would the latest mean quest 3s without pancakes?

RE4 Remake on PSVR2 is outstanding. I’d buy a system for that and RE8 alone. Plus, no batteries. Meta Quest 3 is destined for a landfill when the battery dies.

I needed this video 3 days ago when I bought a meta quest 3... but in the end it seems that I made the right choice

I own both. I think in general for PC that I agree Q3 is better, but PSVR2 is still my favorite. As for Quest exclusives, yes, there are some good ones but they're stand-alone games, which, tbh can't compare to having a dedicated PS5.

Having them both, having a 4080s and 7800x3d PC, the only reason I touch the quest 3 is for pcvr. I think this video came too soon unless you have the official adapter already. Otherwise it’s “I choose quest because no cable since I have nothing else to compare”

I don’t have the option of wiring to a router so I use my quest 2 wired on pc at present. I can still notice the video compression so psvr will be an improvement in that regard. Plus the oled

I will say, a quest 3 owner running PCVR through quest link, the latency seems good that I can play beat saber with no issues, so I'm really unsure what the latency difference is of quest link vs native displayport headsets.

The choice is clear for me, having only recently acquired a PC, pay $50 for an adapter and I'll have PCVR. This is more of a celebration over here that we're getting an adapter and I can have PCVR at all X'D

Still waiting for Valve to make a proper go at a hybrid Steam headset. Something that can both attach to pc and work as a standalone, like the Oculus/Meta Quest 3.

I really think it depends on your setup. If you have a ps5 and pc I'd get psvr2. If you only have pc Id get quest 3.. I have a ps5 and I love my psvr2, it's genuinely amazing. And I don't think I've ever noticed the cable when playing, I genuinely would take the cable over wireless because there's no battery life to worry about

I so want to buy a ps2vr with the upcoming adaptor for my first VR experience. Games such as Gran Turismo 7 and RE 4 looks amazing, would be more easy to have my whole family enjoy it as well with it being easier to setup with ps5 games. But the whole thing about it having far inferior lenses than the MQ3 puts a break on me, meanwhile you can't run Meta Quest 3 lossless with PC as it doesn't have support for displayport, couldn't care less about it being wireless. AC nexus looks nice and is a exclusive, also no oled, eye tracking and hdr decisions, decisions.

Bigscreen Beyond.

RE 4 has different exclusive versions on both platforms... I hate exclusivity in VR!

I tried the Quest 3 and it’s okay. But I typically play VR sitting down and find the PSVR2 functionality better with a PS5. I really hope Sony doesn’t limit the headset on PC and patches out the limitations.

What if all I want to do is flight simming, racing and space sims like Elite Dangerous from a cockpit, and so the cable, as well as the controllers will be an non-issue..? Which one would give me the best image and motion quality?

Meta should stop being so fucking stubborn and go with OLED, yes it's more expensive but it's far superior to LCD because of the level of depth it provides at that close to someone's eyes. The first 2 Oculus Rifts used OLED's and they were fantastic despite the low resolution.

Having owned a hand full of headsets (Rift CV1, Rift S, PSVR 1, PSVR 2 and Quest 2) I have to say the Quest 3 is the most uncomfortable of all by far. Even after buying the Bobo VR M3 head strap after trying a few third party ones. It is still heavy, awkward, and pinches the Hell out of my nose. How can Meta make such an incredible piece of hardware technically and continue to fail so badly on comfort? It baffles me. Even the Quest 2 was better for me. Additionally, it took me forever to luckily find an IPD setting that didn't give me headaches. The first couple of weeks with the Quest 3 were painful for me. I would get splitting headaches after 30 mins of use. I measured my IPD with various apps and the IPD they suggested still gave me headaches. I was ready to return the headset when I magically just moved the IPD to some mystical spot and headaches took far longer to happen. I never had this problem with any other headset. Maybe those others have more leeway due to the lenses or something? I just hope to god its IPD never moves or I might be back to headache city again. Like I said, the Quest 3 is amazing technically, I like the controllers and no wire is great. But man, the comfort makes me consider not putting it on each time I want to use it. I sometimes just go to the PSVR 2 as that is much more comfortable for me even with its drawbacks. Oh, and the PSVR 2 FOV makes it much more immersive for me. The big problem with it is it doesn't always have the games I want and the sweet spot for the lenses is super annoying when the headset shifts. Here's hoping Meta actually hires some decent ergonomic designers because the ones they have continue to fail. This is going to be something I consider more going forward.

I own both, I strongly agree with you that people should try both if possible before making a purchase. Personally, I'll be sticking with PSVR2 for PC. Everyone's head/face/eyes are different and for me, I can get the PSVR2 lenses very close to my eyes and it makes for a better experience. I don't care much for Quest exclusives because the standalone graphics are a bummer. I also strongly believe that Resident Evil 4 remake and RE8 on PS5 are among the best VR experiences available right now.

i have a quest 2 and a psvr2. i wouldve got a quest 3 if it had oled. since it doesnt, and I dont want to keep investing in games on meta stuff, i'm hoping the psvr2 pc rig is at least competent. i am curious how the quest 3 airlink performs. I always enjoyed airlink on quest 2, but i reeeallly dont like the occasional youtubey compression, totally kills it for me

I have a quest 3 but just ordered a PSVR 2 and PC adaptor. Because games like no mans sky even with a link cable stutter and look a bit blurry tbh. And als the quest 3 battery sytill discharges even on a powered link cable. and it's just annoying knowing the battery is going down. Plud virtaul desktop for me is hit and miss and I think i would benefit from just using my quest 3 for standalone and having a dedicated PCVR set up without any of the connection issues etc. I hope it was worth it anyway. I don't have a PS5 btw, But could get one further down the line maybe. never been a playsrtation gamer. it 's just my experience of POCVR on quest 3 is hit and miss tbh. And I have a ryzen 9 5900x and Rx 6800.

I have yet to encounter any problems whatsoever concerning the cable. At this point I feel like people are just crying and bullshiting about nothing.

Q3 better clarity more of standalone computer wireless or wired. X2 if you have good pc. Psvr2 wired amazing oled colors. If Q3 had oled no doubt Q3

I'd rather buy the OG PSVR as it's now super cheap and it has the astro bot game.

I still have little interest in VR, which I thought I would have by now. I hope it does get better and cheaper, but there's no appeal for me ATM.

Only thing psvr2 has is triple A exclusive and oled with the display port to usbc native connection. And that’s it. Everything else quest 3 wins

It’s a close comparison but quest 3 wins for pc due to higher resolution and pancake lenses. The comparison will be even easier when quest 4 launches as Sony will still be stuck with the same product.

I have both and if I had to go back and buy only one I’m going with quest 3. I was amazed with the psvr2, eye tracking haptic feedback, controllers are dope, it’s gotta be my most immersive vr experience today but it’s also gathering dust in the corner… I rarely use it. Quest 3 is just way more bang for the buck. Web browsing, watching movies, app support that make watching movies even cooler, streaming Xbox, stand alone use or use it on the pc. You got a larger library especially when combined with steam. CHEAPER games and you can actually refund games. Tons of features, always being updated and improved. Not to mention the pass through is pretty awesome. They won me over… psvr2 coulda been just as great but Sony did a crap job at supporting it and had to make it difficult to even be used on a pc. They butchered this project. Imo if they did something as little as making psvr2 plug n play on the pc it’d be getting way more love but nah Sony don’t want us buying from their competitors who us give way better deals lol

OLED is the one feature that's a big miss on Quest but apart from that Quest is far far superior

Quest 3 = Pancake lenses and no wire If Pico 4S has displayport in it will be the best. Pancake, ringless controllers, no Facebook, Qualcomm XR2 Gen 2, Airlink, Lossless wired mode, Elite Strap with Battery built-in Pico headsets are always $200-$300 cheaper, especially because of the included battery strap. And lighter because the entire battery is in the back of the headset.

Q3 is cheaper by $100 $500 vs ($550 +$50 adapter). Does both wireless and wired. The DP on the psvr2 isn’t as big of a deal anymore bc q3 can do 500 bitrate wireless and 960 bitrate wired which looks good already. Q3 has officially steam link support. Q3 has tons to great exclusives and will get more to come. Ps5 vr games are doa. Sony most likely won’t be releasing anymore new first party vr games. Pancake lens offsets the oled advantage.

Valve Index

Dont like Oled ? try turn off HDR :) ( 10/10 )

Psvr2 would be more justified if there were a full support for psvr2 features and functions. Pc support will lack almost everything that makes psvr2 special.

I don't see how this is even a debate. The PSVR2 is neutured on PC. No HDR, No haptic feedback on the headset and controllers and no eye tracking.

Let’s be honest, until you can test the PSVR2 on pc you can’t give an honest comparison

Literally just got a quest for my birthday yesterday. Watching this video on it!

Yes, Q3, not just a standalone visor, a fricking console strapped to your face, I love it. I have to admit, I don't have much time to play but Netflix on the immersive browser while lying down is sweet

Trick question, by far the best PC VR headset is the Bigscreen Beyond... that is if you don't care about money, since it's like $1000. Then there is me still on my Valve Index

It looks like Sony's PlayStation VR2 is not living up to the company's sales expectations just over a year after it first hit the market. Bloomberg reports that the PlayStation-maker has stopped producing new PSVR2 units as it tries to clear out a growing backlog of unsold inventory. Bloomberg cites "people familiar with [Sony's] plans" in reporting that PSVR2 sales have "slowed progressively" since its February 2023 launch. Sony has produced "well over 2 million" units of the headset, compared to what tracking firm IDC estimates as just 1.69 million unit shipments to retailers through the end of last year. The discrepancy has caused a "surplus of assembled devices... throughout Sony’s supply chain," according to Bloomberg's sources. . ..

For me, PSVR2. Way more immersive.

I've never used the Quest, but it has to be better than the blurry PSVR 2. I've had two PSVR 2s, and spent hours trying to calibrate them, but they remained blurry. People would talk about a 'sweet spot' but there either isn't one or it's the size of the point of a needle.

Quest 3 by a mile psvr2 is overrated

I have both and the Quest 3 simply blows PSVR2 out of the water. I'm a big fan of OLED but the fresnel lenses and being leashed by that cable are huge steps back. I got PSVR2 because I didn't want to miss out on what exclusives there are, but my daily driver is by far the Quest, which also gives me wireless PCVR with excellent quality and visual clarity.

The world is filled with so much beauty and wonder, why would you put one of these devices over your eyes and deprive yourself even a single moment of it?

In my opinion, PSVR 2 is only the best option if you have a PS5, after all it has great specs (even more than Quest 3), exclusive games that are not available on other platforms, better visuals than Quest 3 in standalone and It will soon be able to connect to PC too and in general it is a great headset for the price and specs it offers. Otherwise, Quest 3 is the best option mainly because you can play standalone without the need for a PC or Console.

PSVR2 won’t even have all of its features available on PC making it a pretty stupid purchase imo

Meta quest 3. Wireless helps so much.

Quest 3 easily, If you have a decent PC and don't mind tweaking some settings every now and then. Outside PCVR, PSVR2 is the clear winner even though a few amazing exclusives are only on the Quest.

Pancake lenses are the best advantages, even though psvr 2 blacks and colors are superior

Its easy, which one can play half life alyx?

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They both make you nauseous, Alex makes me nauseous as well.

I’ve been playing VR exclusively on PSVR1 since 2018. In the recent months I researched this thoroughly and decided to get a Quest 3 instead of a PSVR2 for the same reasons that John mentioned. Also, the only major games to get a PSVR2 for in my opinion are GT7, RE Village/RE4 and Horizon. There don’t seem to be many (or quite frankly any) PSVR2 exclusives in the pipeline from Sony, while Meta is announcing more and more standalone exclusives, in addition to the already big oculus/PCVR library (which could all become playable on the cloud soon if the Avalanche rumors are true). Even as a long time Playstation fan I have to admit that Sony messed up this time.

I am a playstation person and i hate the PS VR2. Meta Quest 3 all the way.

Not even close Quest 3 is much better overall!!!

The day you said quest 3 john I went all in. Unreal peice of tech. Then bought a 4080 for 2077 in VR and I can't get it to work. But one day I will. PS hasn't been used for a long time. TRUST IN JOHN I DO. Me 47. PS ask Richard whatever happened to Julian Rignal

100% Facts

Sony is "making deep cuts to funding for VR games," making for "very few opportunities" for in-house VR games in the future. "only two first-party games for the PlayStation VR2 are in development".

The scale of the PSVR2 exclusives is far greater than Quest. GT7 alone let alone RE7&8 tip the scale for me.

Meta Quest 3. Duh. 😅

Quest 3 is way ahead to psvr2. The thing is i hate the psvr2 controller its keep bumping when i am using it specially in hand gun situation where u need to close both your hand while holding tge gun

Meta Quest 3 Wires on PSVR2 are wildly immersion breaking

PlayStation owners will find you all for this segment.

Only thing you need to know: wireless! which is why Quest 3 is king.

I recently acquired the PSVR2, I have PS5 and extensive library of PSVR1 games, none and I mean none of my games worked with the PSVR2, what a waste of hardware and opportunity, also the headset feels flimsy, I guess I will have to wait for a PSVR 2 Pro conpatible with PSVR1 and please wireless, get with the program Sony, also 100% PC compatibility out of the box!!

PSVR2 should have been a standalone unit like Quest

Gaybox series x is too weak to handle VR!!!!! MEGA L FOR THE GAYBOX FANQUEERS!!!!!

guys i had both - psvr2 lenses are unfortunately a joke. quest has its own problems but pancacke lenses with no sweet spot cuz whole picture is clear is something different. for pc with smaller texts, pc games and so on its literally night and day difference. and to add to that - ps5vr requires additional overpriced adapter, no option for wireless, haptics will probably dont exist, hdr isnt streamed via that adapter, literally they stripped it of best features and want x money for silly adapter... literally 5 minutes after checking quest 3 sharpness i returned my ps5vr and i like it, re4 remake or re9 is great (tho i already played it), gran turismo is great, but thats all, rest of the games are on quest cuz it has x times userbase size so no dev can skip quest platform.

This was an easy decision for me. Either deal with Facebook and their shitty ecosystem and practices, or just go with a Sony device that will provide me with what I want without the shenanigans. Easy peezy.