I think it´s actually a question from wolf: "So he would always have a friend?" "SO HE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A FRIEND..."

That line always makes me cry

Kindred is the man/entity in the story. People shun (run) from death, and this made him lonely, since people always tried to stay as far away from him as possible. The reason you know that this man/entity is the person that became Kindred is because Lamb tells Wolf, he took an axe and split himself right down the middle. The marks on their masks, when one of them is flipped and joined with the other forms a heart that had been split in RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. This is why Lamb and Wolf are tied so closely together, because they ARE the same person/entity, who was likely the Grim Reaper of Runeterra that got lonely after seeing everybody run from him/it, and it's why Lamb tells the story so gently to wolf, and why both of them recognize the truth of the story deep down in their heart, which they both share as two halves, represented as carvings upon their masks. This also explains why Lamb and Wolf call each other by name with affectionate tones: "Dear Wolf.", "Little Lamb.", they have become friends, by making a friend out of their former self, by splitting the ONE in two, so that the two that resulted from said splitting could become friends, and cure the original entities loneliness. They value each other, because they are all that they have, both as a divided soul, and as a cherished bond. Having said all of this, I do not like Kindred as a character, and hold a firm distaste for their personalities, because at the end of the day, they are nothing more than the product of a being who couldn't cope with its own existence and the consequences of that existence (people running from the entity known as Death/The Grim Reaper), and ran from Its own existence by splitting itself in two to cure its loneliness. Yet, it acts super entitled when it comes to its duty of ending lives, thinks the idea of chasing and brutally murdering those who refuse to accept It as a fun game, and has the audacity to call others dignified for choosing to accept the arrow, as if it were some high and mighty being, as if death holds any sort of dignity, let alone INDIGNITY. People die, there's nothing to judge. And frankly, when a person dies, they shouldn't be worried about what someone else thinks of how they choose to die, they should only be concerned with their own internal views. This is why I call Kindred pretentious, for Kindred hands them the option of deciding to die with dignity or die without dignity and be ran down like prey. It's judgmental, worse, its arrogant and disgustingly audacious of a being with that poor excuse for a coping mechanism caused by loneliness to have any right WHATSOEVER to go around saying this shit to other people. Kindred is not some two-sided, objective, personification of death. Kindred is just a lonely entity that was unable to handle its loneliness, and is now stupidly trying to enforce its twisted view of death onto others, not-to-mention treating people's fate as a game (Wolf) while deeming to judge and offer (Lamb) an option for how the person dies. Not really an offer, just a horseshit-borne method of taking their own internal weakness out on others.

@@catastrophucked riot already confirmed that the story lamb tells is one that she heard people say about kindred in peoples story telling over the years. Kindred doesn't actually know how they came to be. So.....

@@catastrophucked They are not the man in the story. Their soul is bond together but they are not the same person.

Actually makes sense, lambs arrows are beautiful and colourful ,whereas wolfs attacks are brutal

Well, ya, the idea of the two is Ying and Yang. Wolf is black, Lamb is white, Wolf is instinct (nature), Lamb is Mind (Nurture), Lamb is the body, Wolf is the soul, Wolf can feel emotion but not understand it, Lamb can understand emotion but not feel it. They are two parts that make one whole. The story of the grey man who split himself in two. Grey is the between the color of black and white or the color of them combined. So yes, Lamb represents human aspects like thought, understanding, beauty, dignity, and grace, and wolf represents Natural aspects.

Basically what the base description already says "the poet and the primitive"

As a Yorick main, that line hurts. Yorick would absolutely love to accept death, but he *physically can't die, so he is hunted by Wolf instead.* So the next best thing to do is try to undo the curse. He will prevail... _he has eternity..._

@@ApexGale Actually because he is still struggling to live longer than he's supposed to as his quest hasn't finished yet. Which means he fight back his death, he denies his final call till he free the shadow ilse from this curse - forcing to live.

@@ZzDarkShadowKnightzZ its funny cause senna is going to do that instead

@@ApexGale nah He wants to die but he also wants to end the root of ruination that's why he has yet to accept death

@@InternetAddict069 not quite. one of his lines is literally "We do not die...and so we fight on." Yorick can't die no matter how much he'd love to. That's the reason why he fights the Mist - because he can't embrace death even if he wanted to. So he fights to secure the eternal slumber he desperately desires. Him seeing the Wolf is not of his own volition. He is wrenched back to life no matter what he does.

Yeah, I think something like that as well. If you listen to kindred lines in game, it is almost undeniable to think otherwise.

That's what a god in the vain of the Norse or Shinto deities would be though.

The grim reaper is a combination of pre christian death gods, something outside of god, he's never been "just a spirit". Unless you're thinking of Ankou which are spirits, a different entity from the Reaper. In ancient religions, especially those with a pantheon, gods were not like Christianity portrays a god. They are more like superhumans than omnipresent and omnipotent. They could be beaten, tricked, and even killed. That's what he was pointing out. They abide by what a death god would be in ancient religions, not in the modern Western view of a god. One example is Greco-Roman mythology that has different gods that preside over different forms of death as well as personifications of death as a concept.

I've always made a big distinction with Kindred, they are not a GOD of Death but rather they are Death itself. When you die you either see the Lamb or the Wolf because they are the reality that every mortal being faces one day

i think skyen kinda explained that at the start tho? how thats a very abrahamic way of seeing the difference betwee a god and any other deity? while in other religions, godsare very much just that?

Yorick's rework has one. When he dies, one line is "I see the wolf..." because of how he's prolonged his demise.

This is my biggest issue with all new stuff in LoL HotS and DotA, when someone new who references others is added no new lines from old characters get added.

Wuell some react to her, and now, ashe has a new voiceline in which she says something along "hail kindred" and the rest I forget

After 2 years, you'll finally receive more parts of lore I mean, in LoR, in June... But hey, we are getting more lamb lore!

Viego does now

Executioner Thel Yeah Id love to see how much Jhin and Kindred are linked, so much of his design is similar to them, like he's become obsessed with seeing them or something.

Yeah, I think Jhin’s the same as Magga, people who saw Kindred itself but lived, and now death has become a very part of them, it also doesn’t seem like a coincidence where Magga also incorporates death into her art, just like how Jhin does.

what if kindred split in 3, not 2? They used to be a tall skinny man after all..jhin is tall and skinny qhat if hes the humam part of death. the very physical part of death. The quantifiable. The very human want to cause death, but unlimited by a need for reason.

@@jayjaygolden5123 That's a cool idea, but the thing with Jhin that appeals to a lot of people(myself included) is that in a roster full of people with big things that they want or have to accomplish, he's just some cool, rando, whackjob. Taking that from him would kinda suck, at least in my opinion.

Necrit fancy seeing you here... Now I feel like in cheating on you xD

Oh no I'm caught it dint mean anything I promise I'll never cheat again

Another thing on this point is that they are one being split into two and it shows in how they act. Despite Lamb being merciful, she can't feel emotions which can almost make her seem indifferent to a death. On the opposite end, Wolf can very much feel emotions but he lacks any understanding of what they are which can make him seem overjoyed to kill.

Karthus was a really poor half orphan child in noxus and when people died (basically daily) he "would watch, fascinated, as the tallymen of Kindred notched their staffs and bore the bodies from the almshouse.". Also maybe there's something about darius' new skin being all wolf themed

I agree awesome rant

Lamb still detach herself from humanity by her feelings. It's implied (also in legends of Runeterra) that Wolf feels a lot of feelings, thrill, fun, sadness, but do not understand them, he doesn't "know" them. Lamb, on the other hand, knows feelings, she knows what they are, but she doesn't feel them, and often asks what sadness is, for exemple.

Yeah when you look at the world, even the most intelligent animals just like to screw around with their prey for fun, sometimes not even eat it, so yeah animalistic death is brutal and for either food or the weird sadism that ceteceans have like dolphins and orcas

There is the theory that if your culture doesn't have kindred, or if you don't know of kindred they cannot claim you. Besides there are those who have cheated death. Resurrection, and undeath. Meaning they aren't all powerful. Some have also escaped them. Even though its mostly a delay rather than an escape

There sếm to be more than 1 death, so kindred is not alone, there are other that do the same thing but theyre not kindred

@@zuterwer1835 I think they actually talk about this. “Those who do return wish they hadn’t.”

@@destinitaylor4360 true mainly listen to the lines they say i get that

@@zuterwer1835 if i recall right there’s a irish fairy that solitary type fairy that a death fairy that is often have a show in story’s as the headless horseman they are claims that if you carry a gold coin they let you be if you don’t you get your soul taken but not always they are known to have a option to make a deal if you win you walk away unharmed they often was claimed to be seen on roads at knight

No

And if you've watched Arcane, Mel's mom, the Noxian general (or some such), tries to teach Mel to be like a wolf: merciless.

It does make sense, but there aren't only two regions that you can compare to them...Demacia, Ionia, Piltover would probably choose the lamb and Noxus, Bilgewater, Zaun would rather be haunted by the wolf. Still I wander what would choose Freljord and Shurima🤔

They weren't since the start of season 8 and got random buffs, so thats kinda nice ^^

gameplay honestly got better with thte most recent "rework" they got

except she's really good..

Kindred works these days. I've turned unwinnable games with them. Can't wait for the new skin!!!!

@@tyleredwards9799 you either carry or do awful on kindred imo her ult needs some changes

It makes no sense to say that the representation of death is anything-cidal. It would be like saying that the Grim Reaper is the one who hunts you down with his scythe while you still live - he doesn't, he's just the dude who turns up to collect your soul after you've died. The Reaper merely plays the role of psychopomp, guiding your immortal soul to the afterlife. Similarly Kindred is not the one *responsible* for your death - rather they are a being that represents the physical process of death. The whole hunting motif they have going on is a metaphor for facing death with either acceptance or defiance ('Those who run from death stood still in life.'), but ultimately it makes no difference because you're already dead anyway.

I've always thought that Lamb's line "I will never run from you, dear Wolf" is actually a mockery on him. Everything that the Wolf wants is that his victims try to run so he can enjoy the thrill of the hunt, by accepting her end, Lamb will be denying the Wolf of his last chance of having fun after the death of everything else.

Interesting viewpoint, Kaz. I'd actually go the route of "of course they're omnicidal, they're f*cking death", so kudos on actually giving that some thought. Though I'd change that from physical process of death to metaphysical embodiment of the moment of death. Seems more accurate that way, since nothing about them is physical in the literal sense.

It could also be more of a philosophical statement. "Will there be a time where life itself no longer exists" is a very common philosophical question, so this could just be Kindred saying that yes, there will come day where life is unable to sustain itself and there is no longer another one to carry on.

@@Stolanis The Grim Reaper isn't (generally depicted as) a psychopomp, it's (generally) the guy cutting down the metaphorical wheat of human lives. It's the Grim _Reaper,_ not the Grim _Thresher._ That's the impression I get from Kindred, too.

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Thanks for bringing this up. Some really nice detail in the art and lore of the character.

i dont know where did i see it but somewhere i saw that everything meets kindred and when nothing else is there lamb will reflect on wolfs eyes and wolfs in lambs. I think is more that they would fight till both are death more than wolf takes the arrow or lamb flee from wolf

Louish Nad I’m so confused

I don't think wolf will run from lamb's arrow, in the end they would probably just end each other like they did so many others. When Kindred dies in game we can see wolf immediately attacking lamb's falling body before they both dissolve into a shadow. I believe that's the case here: Wolf chases Lamb down but then without lamb he too dies. Either because they physically literally cannot exist without the other or he becomes too lonely without lamb and accepts death upon himself. I imagine his last moments like that would be him seeing lamb and feeling her arrows ram through him and he accepts them and returns to Lamb to become Kindred yet again.

*Laughs in Mordekaiser*

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The ears on wolf are part of the lamb mask actually.

ninjakirby777 A video about those skins could be cool actually

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@@TBSkyen please do

Nachtkriecher Karthus gave himself to the shadow isles which is where his power came from I guess. Kindred has a voice line towards the Blade of the Rune King when wolf ask’s what the blade it is, lamb answers saying “it’s of a land not welcome to us”

Or something like that

Maybe just the sign of hook they have on masks...like a tattoo or have it on clothes...

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMWAlNBy2s3FlmQ.html It certainly is amazing though I didn't really appreciate it before randomly stumbling upon that video

N/a three if you include jayce