What's the deal with Vladimir? || character design & lore discussion

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Everyone's favourite Definitely Not A Vampire Vladimir has received himself a substantial lore update, finally, turning him into honestly a VERY different character than he used to be. Fortunately, it's entirely a change for the better! Now if only they'd get rid of his stupid, stupid haircut...
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@ApexGale
@ApexGale 5 жыл бұрын
i pray for the day they change vlad to a character whose entire set of voicelines isn't literally just blood puns
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
Aright, they'll add three Putin jokes.
@chrisodwyer5473
@chrisodwyer5473 5 жыл бұрын
Zenith Tempest j
@sirnonsense5033
@sirnonsense5033 5 жыл бұрын
u mean they should pool themself together?
@SuperYoshiBrosFan
@SuperYoshiBrosFan 5 жыл бұрын
Go ahead. Be negative. You'll be just my type.
@generic_artist9527
@generic_artist9527 5 жыл бұрын
That's bloody beautiful
@davidshadow1019
@davidshadow1019 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to talk a bit about Vladmir's character design: His clothes surely makes him look like a vampire, but more than that, they make him look like a real aristocrat, what the lore said he was, but as you said he needs to show more of Noxus itself trough his clothes, so I think his clothes should be the representation of Noxus aristocracy, just like Swain's clothes represent Noxus military group
@bornulhu4549
@bornulhu4549 5 жыл бұрын
Vlad's clothes look like Pennywise styled clown clothes. I mean... He has striped pants and fully red like that looks odd...
@gigifabulous
@gigifabulous 5 жыл бұрын
I want Riot to turn his knives for hands into just acrylic nails.
@lepotato2156
@lepotato2156 5 жыл бұрын
This is everything about Vladimir that I never knew I wanted...
@gerome022
@gerome022 4 жыл бұрын
or it could be like those aristocratic claw-like finger accessories which is more intricate and tamer than his claws rn
@cheshirefiend4130
@cheshirefiend4130 5 жыл бұрын
If Riot were to change anything about Vlad's character and design, then I have two rough suggestions. 1. Voice. He doesn't have a single line that isn't a blood pun, and that doesn't really work for his new conceptualization. New Vlad is supposed to be a wickedly cultured, manipulative, egotist who has a rather "been there done that" view of the world. Someone like that should have a more refined, if not regal, and somewhat cruel way of speaking that just screams "evil aristocrat", not just endless puns. 2. Regarding his design. I think that, yes, his hair should be de-onion-ed, and his knife hands should be toned down, perhaps they can become more like armor rings but a bit more pronounced so that they can still be seen in game. I think his massive coat still works for this new lore for Vlad with him just swimming in this ornate and luxurious coat that shows off wealth and status. I would add some additional designs or patterns or something to it so that it looks particularly ostentatious. However the knives on it, particularly the ones on his back, may need to be toned down or removed altogether. I specify the ones on his back because we have another Noxian rocking the badass jacket with the metal bits on the back, Swain. With Swain, his pointy looking additions to his coat are there to create a visual connection to ravens and they also somewhat fit in with the aesthetics of Noxian military. With Vlad, they're just there because "Hey, did I mention I like blood and killing?" The ones on his sleeves I thinks can be reduced in size and be made into decorative tassels that dangle from the sleeves on small rings instead of being stiffly sewn onto the sleeves. That way he still has noticeable sharp things on his jacket that look more decorative and fashionable but still a bit threatening, and less like a really silly way of making it clear that "he like likes blood."
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 күн бұрын
It makes perfect sense for some immortals to be _really_ into a specific kind of pun. Not so much if they're supposed to be charismatic master manipulators. I love puns as much as the next guy, but they're not crowd-pleasers.
@00Gerundiv00
@00Gerundiv00 5 жыл бұрын
🎵HE REALLY LIKES BLOOD MAN! 🎵 HE IS THE MAGIC BLOODMAN!🎵
@Dhorannis
@Dhorannis 5 жыл бұрын
Another interesting idea about his outfit: Why not just make his coat out of floating blood? It shows his flamboyance and extreme expertise with hemomancy, it gives room for some really cool animations during his spells, and it would really fit an artist to make a part of his clothes himself with his specific craft. I have to admit though that there already is a character in fiction who does that. In the manga Shaman King, a descendant of Count Vlad Teppes Dracula appears and uses blood as the medium for his shaman powers in form of a cape that can change form to things like solid red spikes or claw-like long structures that suck blood from those they pierce. He actually pretends to be a vampire (even bites someone and controls him from within by controling his blood) at first but quickly shows that he is just an ordinary human with a very creative way of using his power as a shaman.
@forresttoyne8559
@forresttoyne8559 5 жыл бұрын
Onion hair is an indicates of extreme magical power... Evelynn prime example...
@luuna_asteria
@luuna_asteria 5 жыл бұрын
Wait so does this mean most of Vlad's skins could be canon? Since he's reinvented himself numerous times...
@davidshadow1019
@davidshadow1019 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought when he talked about that, and I guess the answer is yes
@anthonymorales9869
@anthonymorales9869 5 жыл бұрын
@TonyDanatop If they do that, I'm gonna start calling him Saruman the Red.
@lonerimortal8
@lonerimortal8 5 жыл бұрын
Luna Actually ... Yes
@interycreeper1152
@interycreeper1152 5 жыл бұрын
the highschool skin xD
@lefiex8199
@lefiex8199 5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the time he reinvented himself into Nosferatu, that must been dark time xd
@alcazar8224
@alcazar8224 5 жыл бұрын
Picks vladimir Game starts /all WRYYYYYYY
@Ladazotz
@Ladazotz 5 жыл бұрын
Cant be the only person that thought of that scene with polnoreff and dio on the stairs at the end of that "art is life" story?
@aifakinkilyu
@aifakinkilyu 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a JoJo's reference?
@Ajehy
@Ajehy 3 жыл бұрын
@@aifakinkilyu - Everything is a JoJo’s reference!
@PsychoCodina
@PsychoCodina 5 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that the superiority of the Marquis Vlad design wasn't mentioned
@delgande
@delgande 4 жыл бұрын
Elite500 squad represent
@henriqmorgenstern9197
@henriqmorgenstern9197 5 жыл бұрын
vlad need´s a ezreal like rework
@Keroruto
@Keroruto 5 жыл бұрын
So... anyone else thought that the new lore where Vlad absorbs the blood magic and life force of his darkin master was Riot leaning into diablerie from Vampire the Masquerade? Essentially Vlad is a lower gen vampire who ate an Antediluvian
@cezzan6586
@cezzan6586 5 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking the same thing for a while! Vladimir is a Ventrue/Tremere mix
@lonerimortal8
@lonerimortal8 5 жыл бұрын
17:35 It's hard to look at this and not remember about Onion's brother from "Steven Universe" :^V (yes, Onion is literaly the character's name and his brother looks like in game Vladimir :^V )
@lepotato2156
@lepotato2156 5 жыл бұрын
Onion is secretly Vlad :^)
@Pedropaulopoloni
@Pedropaulopoloni 5 жыл бұрын
Make his clothes be made of blood. You're welcome, Riot.
@anthonymorales9869
@anthonymorales9869 5 жыл бұрын
If they ever did redesign Vladimir, maybe they could use his Count skin as inspiration.
@greenwren5072
@greenwren5072 5 жыл бұрын
20:45 How about coattails made out of blood? That would look kinda cool.
@Nemenian
@Nemenian 5 жыл бұрын
Vlad is one of my favorite characters! Hell yeah!
@ninjakirby777
@ninjakirby777 5 жыл бұрын
Yes please do LeBlanc she’s my favourite character
@anthonymorales9869
@anthonymorales9869 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Vlad needs a new voice-actor. I'm getting old-school Ezreal flashbacks!
@felipefelpamoura3548
@felipefelpamoura3548 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you ever considered puting the audio of those lore explanations/explorations as a podcast like on Spotify or similar apps? I love listening to your thoughts and, except for the animation analysis, those could go extremely well in a podcast format. As a designer and game freak, i'd like to thank you a lot for sharing your comments. I admire your work a lot. Please, don't stop. 💕 (Sorry for my english. I'm Brazilian and I'm posting this as I go go bed and my brain is slow and lazy now). Again, the content u're building, u're doing it very well 🙏🔮 i hope you have no doubts about it
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
4:30: He likes blood, _and_ he likes killing. That's two notes! 10:10: That sounds interesting, and could be one of the few non-cliche takes on "Immortality ain't all it's cracked up to be" in existence if they take it in that direction. 15:20: Another useful consequence of making Vladmir a blood mage is that they don't need to debug an animation where Vlad pounces on champions of all shapes and sizes and suck blood out of their neck-equivalent. 19:00: Maybe replace the elegant, bright red flowing Seto Kaiba coat with a practical, drab red flowing military coat? Oh, and replace the ridiculous hairdo with a slightly-less-ridiculous Noxian-style helmet. 21:15: Let me guess, half of the character design is wasted on showing how sexy she is.
@snoovian7951
@snoovian7951 2 жыл бұрын
21:15, actually the opposite in skyen's opinion! skyen thinks more vla-daddy works
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 2 жыл бұрын
@@snoovian7951 ...isn't the opposite of the glass being half-empty, the glass being half-full?
@crypticmrchimes
@crypticmrchimes 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Vladimir is here! I'm interested to see your analysis for him since I personally found it... interesting. Edit: Drink some lemon juice tea/water/something. I find that it helps break down in situations like that.
@dominik3017
@dominik3017 5 жыл бұрын
HEMOMANCER not VAMPIRE, how dare you call a lord of vampires himself like that? :P
@AbstractTraitorHero
@AbstractTraitorHero Жыл бұрын
The sheer idea of a character concept being. Lol blood. And then being expanded like this is hilarious
@captainChernihiv
@captainChernihiv 5 жыл бұрын
His hair denotes his relationship to Onion family from SU
@SquabsMcGee
@SquabsMcGee 4 жыл бұрын
I just- pls- New voicelines. You did it in runeterra- can- just one. These puns are killing M E E E E E E
@aleksandrekaishauri9977
@aleksandrekaishauri9977 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@RainyBoyLV
@RainyBoyLV 5 жыл бұрын
14:29 HEMOMANCER NOT VAMPIRE
@delgande
@delgande 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he just had really long fingers
@Therealpigeonboi
@Therealpigeonboi 4 жыл бұрын
The reason he has the blades on his fingers is because blood magic allows you to alter your body, jut like how aatrox transmutes his body every time he possesses someone
@ChinoWantan
@ChinoWantan 5 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the Twitch's one :D
@Junior2000625
@Junior2000625 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's the point Vladimir looks different from the typical Noxian person by choice
@standupman
@standupman 5 жыл бұрын
That ending deserved a like as well
@pastamasta6814
@pastamasta6814 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about anyone else but Vladimir has the coolest pants in League.
@projespecterdesigns2789
@projespecterdesigns2789 4 жыл бұрын
New Challenge! Take a shot every time he says "Why"
@Ajehy
@Ajehy 3 жыл бұрын
You trying to kill people?
@namespara6669
@namespara6669 5 жыл бұрын
i dont usually watch your lol vids but ohmylord PLEASE cover the godlike animation and design of the K/da music vid IM BEGGING YOU
@cezzan6586
@cezzan6586 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, my main gets some time in the spotlight
@Ferno209
@Ferno209 5 жыл бұрын
YES! THANK YOU!
@snowpawzvideos
@snowpawzvideos 5 жыл бұрын
what’s the deal with Nidalee?  does she even have lore?
@gexianhen
@gexianhen 5 жыл бұрын
orb of blood? he already have that...
@kyuumann500
@kyuumann500 5 жыл бұрын
A Blood Onion!!! Bloody Layers!!!!
@TalontedM7
@TalontedM7 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a Talon video at some time in the future?
@orchestratedeath8669
@orchestratedeath8669 5 жыл бұрын
is there any chance for getting an update about recoloring blood with an option on settings (just like colorblind option) especially Vladimir abilities for people with blood phobia or we should keep banning Vladimir every single game :c
@TheJPKaram
@TheJPKaram 5 жыл бұрын
“He is a bit like doctor who” Almost he is like “Me”
@blackcat013
@blackcat013 5 жыл бұрын
He just became a blood mage from Dragon Age, maybe mixed a little bit with Vandal Savage. Also it would be nice for the Darkin not to be the catch all for every champ that might be somewhat difficult, or not difficult in some cases, to tie in otherwise.
@34alexray
@34alexray 5 жыл бұрын
*best pants in the game*
@EMWISE94
@EMWISE94 5 жыл бұрын
What's that smell...? It's Blood!!
@heccsa7532
@heccsa7532 5 жыл бұрын
HEMOMANCER!
@aifakinkilyu
@aifakinkilyu 5 жыл бұрын
YAAY! LeBlanc video in it's way!!
@gyroinquisitor8618
@gyroinquisitor8618 5 жыл бұрын
He was not good at blood magic. He got forbidden lessons of it. And he killed his master to surpasses his human condition so he is a Darkin that is keeping human look. Because he consider himself as one. That’s only my vision
@sir_gregory3528
@sir_gregory3528 5 жыл бұрын
whats the deal with Cassiopeia next pls
@MisplacedRaven
@MisplacedRaven 5 жыл бұрын
My boooooooooooy
@nex7402
@nex7402 5 жыл бұрын
So how long do you spend on finding words for those intros?
@TheShiningMetagross
@TheShiningMetagross 5 жыл бұрын
But T.b whats the deal with Cho gath?
@nickghilea3624
@nickghilea3624 3 жыл бұрын
2 years ago Still relevant
@timothyvandyke9511
@timothyvandyke9511 5 жыл бұрын
1:55 I've Heard this one before!
@demoniktusk758
@demoniktusk758 5 жыл бұрын
I know you probably don't like this answer, but he has knife hands for the sake of looking cool, even though they don't make sense, i like them just because they look cool and i think his design would be less interesting without them, i think sometimes details don't have to have a reason other than looking cool. Off with the Onion head tho, they fixed it in the splash art, so why not in the damn model?? And another thing, i hate when characters don't have pupils just for the fuck of it, characters without visible pupils just dont feel alive to me, i i really think its stupid that its such an common design characteristic.
@mechahiyoen3554
@mechahiyoen3554 5 жыл бұрын
Do Udyr!
@josephgabriele8400
@josephgabriele8400 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand one thing reading his new lore, is mordekaiser the darlin that taught him blood magic?
@hugob.d5650
@hugob.d5650 5 жыл бұрын
No, Morde isn't a Darkin
@luc.k7736
@luc.k7736 5 жыл бұрын
Vladimir reminds me of Shu Tsukiyama(Gourmet) from Tokyo Ghoul.
@frozi3193
@frozi3193 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, Vlad is too classy for napkin sniffer.
@TMithu
@TMithu 5 жыл бұрын
A slimmer Bloodstone Taric would make a great Vladimir
@ME-hs7ll
@ME-hs7ll 5 жыл бұрын
magic blood man !
@Lazycandle
@Lazycandle 5 жыл бұрын
Still havent played since they reworked my boy aatrox Sill like your videos tho
@sleepyimpskel5654
@sleepyimpskel5654 5 жыл бұрын
Is no one going to mention the fact that his hair is long in his splash art but not in his in game model? Like I wanna love Vlad but hhhgggggnghnghn
@frozi3193
@frozi3193 5 жыл бұрын
As ironic as it sounds, I hope Kha'zix won't get changed.
@hanna-liminal
@hanna-liminal 5 жыл бұрын
if they wanna keep his whacky, off-putting, off-kilter design, it occurred to me that i'd like the idea of him looking kind of David Bowie in Labyrinth! (anything to make him look less like the Blood Elf mage from Warcraft)
@wilberttorrens161
@wilberttorrens161 5 жыл бұрын
Find it funny some one got the crow to fly 3 times at the fork for the dislike
@Danothyus1
@Danothyus1 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't his hair a reference to Bram Stoker Dracula? I agree is stupid looking and all but there is a basis for it at least.
@rabgix8805
@rabgix8805 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the deal with Volibear?
@karljohan2300
@karljohan2300 3 жыл бұрын
why not make vladimir kinda like bloodless in bloodstained game just a vampire using blood as clothes and weapons
@neintruchipat
@neintruchipat 5 жыл бұрын
Do Elise too, so we have all the black rose champions
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject 5 жыл бұрын
Wait Elise is Noxian now?
@silverun280
@silverun280 5 жыл бұрын
14:50 isn't Dracula's first name Vladimir?
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 5 жыл бұрын
Just Vlad but yes
@Dinodroid3500
@Dinodroid3500 5 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with Anivia?
@thrall6647
@thrall6647 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings! Look like Word of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade :P Edit: or Vampire Requiem more like this :P yea I know he isn't oficial vampire....
@lepotato2156
@lepotato2156 5 жыл бұрын
Blood-imir. Okay bye.
@niffry
@niffry 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly love Vladamir as a character, but his current design kinda makes him look like one of those edgy OCs you'd make as a kid with way too many unnecessary details. (Also yes I'm speaking from experience. Pre-teen Niffry had some interesting ideas about what was cool.)
@AbstractTraitorHero
@AbstractTraitorHero Жыл бұрын
I kinda do love some edgy oc's sometimes though
@t.r.s.queiroz8082
@t.r.s.queiroz8082 5 жыл бұрын
give me my WTDW malzahar
@horrorreadersanonymous3533
@horrorreadersanonymous3533 3 жыл бұрын
I'm probably giving them too much credit here, but ritualistically breaching the "barrier" of something's skin could be a fundamental rule of hemomancy. Unfortunately the scalpel hands are still very silly even if this was the case.
@mirarobin4096
@mirarobin4096 5 жыл бұрын
There should be no knives. Not even his in game uses the knives. Every attack is ranged. Lives are dumb
@generic_artist9527
@generic_artist9527 5 жыл бұрын
Main point of the video: *Hair*
@ME-hs7ll
@ME-hs7ll 5 жыл бұрын
btw I think vlad is older then lb
@lucasp4186
@lucasp4186 5 жыл бұрын
HEMOMANCER ..... Kappa
@jordanhoman0212
@jordanhoman0212 5 жыл бұрын
So am I supposed to just leave the video paused at 2:00? ;)
@AngelicDirt
@AngelicDirt 5 жыл бұрын
Yay, everyone's favorite onion vampire. :B Not only is he a vampire, he's Capcom's vampire. And by that I mean that he's the twice-boomeranged vision of what a vampire is, bounced directly from the Japan-colored-crack-vision-glasses, which itself was bounced from early monster movie pulp cinema, which is of course bounced from the old novels. This is probably the only reason I actually like Vladmir's design; it's like a messed up art-version of Telephone. I could watch cultures mimic each others tropes until the end of time and be eternally happy. :P Announcements are cool. -This vid, btw? No notification. Not for me anyway. You showed up in my recommends, so that still works.- EDIT: False alarm... It showed up late. :v ... I followed the crow, but there was an ice cream shoppe. You sure that was the right set of directions? :v
@ghost-zx3ki
@ghost-zx3ki 4 жыл бұрын
So vladimir is just a copy of the infamous vlad the iimpaler.
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah, pretty common archetype, really.
@v3rmilli0nair3
@v3rmilli0nair3 5 жыл бұрын
Count Dislike-button-ula doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.........
@augustoqueiroz6829
@augustoqueiroz6829 5 жыл бұрын
Getting expensive ads lol
@chantevandyk7155
@chantevandyk7155 5 жыл бұрын
Can I use that dislike button story in a book I'm writing?
@CRSB00
@CRSB00 5 жыл бұрын
still no Nidalee...
@nicolascifuentes4017
@nicolascifuentes4017 5 жыл бұрын
Love some shameless self promotion
@yarinice1
@yarinice1 3 жыл бұрын
So dumb that the "league of legends" isn't canon anymore.
@ladymissfit7843
@ladymissfit7843 5 жыл бұрын
BLEH!
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