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What's the difference between a heroine and a femme fatale in art? 'Judith (or Salome?)'

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@jeffkeith637
@jeffkeith637 Жыл бұрын
She's all business. Judith. Great talk. More with Dr Alambritis please.
@LB-ge8ih
@LB-ge8ih Жыл бұрын
To me, there is a clue toward this being a representation of Judith with the head of Halofernes: In the narrative, Judith leaves her besieged city to enter the military camp of Halofernes and is invited into his tent, where she tells him he will be victorious, and while he is passed out drunk she beheads him. The background image in the window suggests what looks to be a pitched-type military tent (even with what appear to be wooden braces or tie-downs at the corners), which perhaps indicates the Assyrian troops surrounding Judith’s besieged city of Bethulia. Just a thought…
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Жыл бұрын
ahah. VERY good point, sir. Excellent. believe you are right. If it was Salome, the background would be within an ancient Roman/Jewish architecture background, and not a desert.
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Жыл бұрын
then again, there is a platter. Not a sack, so.... could be Salome.
@anthonyudall8543
@anthonyudall8543 Жыл бұрын
The blue of her dress seems reminiscent of similar depictions of the Holy Mother. The blue is echoed in the sky to which her body is turned (implying she is concerned with the world outside her present location). Her sleeves are rolled up, suggesting she has had work to do. A powerful woman, intent on saving her people from tyranny, for me, this is Judith.
@mvela9877
@mvela9877 Жыл бұрын
I love learning about all the details a picture gives you 😲. It’s very interesting
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Жыл бұрын
My art history classes rarely interested me but these presentations always draw me in. Thank you for your years of dedicated study and preparation and for sharing your perspective in a way that reaches even visual-art-illiterate me. ⭐️
@ThankYou-bn6bp
@ThankYou-bn6bp 8 ай бұрын
I swear the National Gallery of London is the best museum in explaining its collection to its audience. I bought the publication of the collections of paintings from many museums, not one of them doing nearly as good a job to show us what each painting means.
@sacredkinetics.lns.8352
@sacredkinetics.lns.8352 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analogy. Thank you for your educational mission.
@randyperdew2460
@randyperdew2460 Жыл бұрын
The visual power of ambiguity. A woman can be both heroine and femme fatale.
@beanstaIkjack
@beanstaIkjack Жыл бұрын
The glare of the lady's eyes in the painting says: 'He deserved it'. Also, isn't the blue and white garment an indication of another very well known woman?
@PhilipMurphyExtra
@PhilipMurphyExtra Жыл бұрын
I like learning about this picture, Thanks National Gallery 🙂
@alexsargeant3944
@alexsargeant3944 11 ай бұрын
The structure in the background is clearly the silhouette of a 16th century tent. That makes this most likely Judith. The beheading took place in a tent.
@lisakilmer2667
@lisakilmer2667 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Dr. Alambritis is a wonderful presenter.
@tpopkin
@tpopkin Жыл бұрын
Bravo! This was a perfect video
@pablomagister1644
@pablomagister1644 Жыл бұрын
Satisfied my curiosity. Thank you 🙏
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Жыл бұрын
Thank god for this channel, or the gods. Dr. Alambritis is EXCELLENT.
@parulpatel7154
@parulpatel7154 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained. Thank you👏
@LemonDropYum
@LemonDropYum Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Salome because the head still has a smile...and a holy martyr like St. John would be smiling, as he's about to go to his eternal reward. Titian has a Salome that is very much like this one, rolled up sleeves, head on a platter. Judith is traditionally depicted holding the head of Holofernes by the hair (showing no respect whatsoever). Salome does ask for John's head on a platter.
@novianovioTV
@novianovioTV Жыл бұрын
Very good. I always find it strange when people say one likes a picture or one does not. No, we need to given insight by experts. Great presentation despite the offputtin’ apocope
@dominoscience3048
@dominoscience3048 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Жыл бұрын
very good teaching. interesting. Art is fabulous. It can make us think about life and about the "message" portrayed in a scene, while also admire the beauty and the work of art of the picture. They didn't have photos and digital back then. but they could make works of art that gave us joy, peace and even made us think about life and our lives....if...if we wanted to think while enjoying the art.
@ibean11
@ibean11 Жыл бұрын
I posted on FB a link from spotify of Florence and the Machine 'Free' from the album 'Dance Fever', the next day this video was recommended on my KZfaq! Just to clarify Florence sings of feeling free when she dances - that's all! Dancing and feeling free or seeking the feeling of freedom is not some Femme Fatale protective characteristic
@michaeldarby3503
@michaeldarby3503 Жыл бұрын
Didnt Artemisia paint Judith doing the beheading?
@splodge5714
@splodge5714 Жыл бұрын
Interesting talk of a fascinating painting, thank you. A shame the filming in the gallery has such a strong yellow colouring spoiling the pictures.
@dgodiex
@dgodiex Жыл бұрын
true about the yellow tint.
@pascaledelahaye3449
@pascaledelahaye3449 Жыл бұрын
Merci! Très intéressant!
@katie-st8nx
@katie-st8nx Жыл бұрын
She seems burdened by the weight of her actions, seems more like a Judith. Seems like someone with their own convictions, not their mother's.
@sallyseton-cy8mk
@sallyseton-cy8mk Жыл бұрын
I would suggest that the painting of the head itself suggests John the Baptist. Granted, he is not looking his best, but is this the head of a man with strong spiritual values or the head of a cruel oppressor? I think that the pleasing, rather refined features are more appropriate to John the Baptist.
@isashax
@isashax Жыл бұрын
That was very interesting!
@fabianacamozzi775
@fabianacamozzi775 Жыл бұрын
Vim aprender inglês, obrigada.
@JamesHigham
@JamesHigham Жыл бұрын
Ruined by the crashing “music” drowning out the girl. National Gallery please fix what was probably an excellent talk.
@TheSweeeeeetz
@TheSweeeeeetz Жыл бұрын
Come here from tiktok 👍
@lynnblack6493
@lynnblack6493 Ай бұрын
Im for Judith! She does look like a determined, do it myself, lady!
@lyonspainter
@lyonspainter Жыл бұрын
Judith is an apocryphal book and not a book of the old testament
@jaybld7109
@jaybld7109 Жыл бұрын
I have no clue what just happened ! 😃👍
@JJONNYREPP
@JJONNYREPP Жыл бұрын
How do you tell the difference between a heroine and a femme fatale? | National Gallery 1001am 7.3.23 i wouldn't know... she looks somewhat upset - to say the least. i would recommend the Ken Russell film: Salome, if you want a lateral take on such matters. as for art per se - i doubt anyone who read or listened to the most ardent pornographic discord could ever complain when confronted with a vast array of imagery such as we see, here.
@augustosolari7721
@augustosolari7721 Жыл бұрын
I think the peaceful gesture of the head shows a Man who died in the peace of God. It must be Salomé then.
@callmeishmael3031
@callmeishmael3031 Жыл бұрын
How about the wife of a Medici enemy with a delivered memento of her husband?
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