Awesome!

Awesome!!

Is your Gracie Jiu-Jitsu the same curriculum as the Gracie Academy with Rener and Ryron? Or is it different? I’m looking for good Gracie Jiu Jitsu

@@WingChunGungFu whats the difference?

@@HtheKing The material is the same, as Royce and all his brothers (Rorion, Relson, Rickson, Royler and Rolker) trained at the Gracie Academy when they first came to America; the class structure, order of the curriculum and promotions might be different, though. Royce also has a public disdain for sport BJJ, so his schools are also very fight-focused.

If a dojo doesn't teach the strike defense or incorporating strikes then isn't that a diluted jiu-jitsu

Thank you!

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Haha whoever you are. I tip my hat

Or just tenth planet jiu jitsu 🤪

I'm sure you know where the door is....

hahahahahaha that's a good one ese

Same here. 47 and in good shape. A few years back at my daughter's college dorm/apartment move-in one of the coordinators thought I was a student! Hahaha. Anyway, I'm not looking to compete at my age, just interested in learning the art/science of jiu-jitsu!

Thanks Kevin!!

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You’re acting like other BJJ styles aren’t legit because they look like “sport”. Non-Gracie styles are equally effective, just require more strength, stamina, speed, etc. Let’s not forget that the Gracie challenge came about as a way to test skills in a real fight, which evolved into early MMA.

I think he’s just saying GJJ is more geared to combat not that BJJ isn’t combat worthy

BJJ is still useful for self-defense. If you really are so concerned about the "streets" then get a Glock

Self defence is what it’s all about. Sport bjj has too many holes for that

@@runite715 It's not just "me" talking about it's applications on the street . Rickson and other Gracie's have been saying it for years . Many of these versions out their , are watered down versions of the original style . Aimed towards competing against another bjj opponent , on the mat . Not the style Royce used in the early Ufc's .

still with Gracie JJ now?

@@HtheKing Indeed I am. Thanks. Purple belt

@@blackfriarsffc5232 are you happy you stuck with gracie JJ rather than go into sports JJ?

@@blackfriarsffc5232still w it today? Joined a few weeks ago.. love it so far

Thanks for the explanation man , a ghost in the shell fan I see.

You mean difference between Gracie and Brazilian jiu jitsu. Regular jiu jitsu is Japanese

can you elaborate on your last sentence? Do you mean Gracie JJ will be better when someone grabs us?

@@Smithy250 the Japanese style is Jujitsu, Jiu-Jitsu is Brazilian.

@@jaxwhyland it's same word just brazilian can't pronounced ju ,that's why they call jiu.

Glad you liked it!

Appreciate!

​@@MMALeech Once, again, Professor, you are most welcome. I appreciate factual, academic studies that provide robust critical, cogent analyses when presenting an argument👍

Glad you liked it!

Important to say that Maeda had a school in Brazil, he named it Jiu Jitsu not Judo.

MMA Leech Not according to Japanese sources. According to record in Kodokan and two bibliographies that I read about, Maeda found the first Judo Academy in Brazil in 1921, was promoted to 6 dan in 1929 and 7 dan in 1941. He never studied any Japanese Ju Jiutsu style, had promoted Kodokan Judo all his life, and in contact with Kodokan until his death.

@@user-lt8vw4fe4w I understand, brazilian sources are far and few between, but more and more brazilian historians are taking their time to study this matter and they've been finding official papers of that era. They have found that Maeda was teaching in Brazil in 1915, Carlos Gracie was one of his students, here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsqpntZ1q9vdgZs.html He was teaching Kano Jiu Jitsu at the time, not Judo, here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oc2XddZ7ldCZdn0.html Most recent book talking about all of this, written by 2 renowned brazilian historians www.amazon.com/MUITO-ANTES-MMA-precursores-formadoras-ebook/dp/B084T7K2V9/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1592274992&refinements=p_27%3AElton+Silva&s=digital-text&sr=1-1&text=Elton+Silva

MMA Leech What exactly is Kano Jiu Jitsu as mentioned by you? Is it different from Kodokan Judo? Kano Jogoro founded Kodokan Judo, literally means the School of Teaching the Do (The Way), Judo (The Way of Gentle) and wrote books on why he named his school Kodokan and his style Judo. He was a university educator and president by profession and his philosophy is clearly written. I addition, Judo was not a new term that he invented, it was used within Kito-Ryu 起倒流before. The Japanese Ju Jitsu Association has classified existing Ju Jitsu schools into at least 6 different lineages, and Yoshin Ryu 楊心流and Kito-Ryu 起倒流 have highly possible Chinese origins. Again, in Japanese sources, Maeda taught Kodokan Judo only, had contact with Japanese Government and Kodokan until his death, as besides spreading Judo he was also helping Japanese Government to set up Japanese immigrant settlements throughout South America.

@@user-lt8vw4fe4w I'm referring to the nomenclature, not the art itself, regardless if they are different from each other or not. Newspapers in Brazil called his art jiu jitsu, his dojo had a sign that read jiu jitsu as I mentioned in the link above. Helio Gracie said that Maeda called his teachings jiu jitsu. As you know there was a period in time where Judo was not the official name of the art yet, the art was called Jiu Jitsu, Kano Jiu Jitsu, or Judo interchangeably. I'm aware that Maeda helped the japanese government settling many japanese immigrants in Brazil (some were his friends from Kodokan), the japanese were responsible for the modernization of agriculture in many parts of Brazil, among many other important contributions to the country.

You are welcome Mark!

He's definitely a funny guy!

Baldheadedchimp got em

And which side has the bigger ego and which side benefits or loses significance because of their ego?

LMK2 wait, What?

Andres Herrera casual

Maybe you should watch then.

Thank you!

Thanks Koliath!

you are welcome!

Most of YT channels focus on the sport side of BJJ, including mine, although I post some self defense videos once in awhile. Ryron and Rener, on the contrary, teach mostly self defense techniques, they are great instructors and their stuff is great and effective for the self defense scenario. Since sport BJJ has no punches, the techniques do vary a lot, when you add punches to the game the techniques generally become simplified and straight to the point.

@@MMALeech thank you sir for your time and comment that was very helpful.

@@yroy5254 you are welcome

Did you post this comment before lunch?

Tendies or gtfo m’goodboy

Exactly. I learned various MMA disciplines purely for survival growing up in the South Bronx in the 80's. I learned the limitations of Tae Kwon do at 10 years old when an opponent almost caught my leg kick. Karate & Boxing have no strategy to defend yourself once you are on your back. I was watching a Rickson Garcie documentary and he said " The difference between me and KickBoxers, and Wrestlers "is they do this for sport. This is a real live fight to me." I said Wow. This is for me.

one time someone tackled me in front of my friends house bc idk he was mad for something i guess and then i just put him in my full guard then kimura locked and he started tapping and before i let go i told him to walk away or i’ll break it. i learned that move in bjj so i mean i guess it works for the streets

Sean Boss that’s very motivational to hear. I just started my BJJ journey and I am so dedicated to grow

Whats up Randy, you still training bro?

Maeda introduced Kano Jiu-Jitsu to the brazilians and to many other countries. Fortunately or unfortunately, the japanese didn't appreciate their own martial art and gradually turned it into the Judo we know nowadays. The Gracies kept the flame alive, modified it, and spread it to the world.

@@MMALeech cool

Strike use or defense totally depends on the instructors abilities. To me jiu jitsu includes all aspects of fighting.

@@MMALeech Robert Drysdale will be releasing a BJJ documentary/history film this summer. It's called "Closed Guard: The Origins of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil".

Indians started jiu jutsu . They started ninjutsu

Imho a "sport" style armbar will leave an arm just as broken as a "street" style armbar. I really dont buy into this idea that someone with 3 or more years of bjj is somehow ill equiped to defend themself from a person who doesnt train.

The Gracie gyms do have a lot of focus on self defence. My gym has two nights a week dedicated to street sparring and fight simulation where we use mma style gloves and allow for strikes

Gracie university is place you need to go one of their certified training centres

Awesome!

Thank you !

so the original judo self defense style? good

@@Supermomo2007 no, the original self defense curriculum presented by Helio Gracie was very different from Kime no kata in judo. Newaza has a much heavier emphasis with the added assumptiom that your opponent will always be larger than you

@@Taekwon-Brandothere are more katas then you think

You should. You should train both, gi no gi. Train everything. I started with Japanese Jiu-Jitsu (which should get more love imo) back in the early 90's.

Eddie's style of BJJ is sport-focused, hence the pushback from the Gracies. It's incredible for competition, but the moment people start trying to beat punch you, it falls apart like a lot of sport BJJ. The Gracies had already had enough fights to know whether Bravo's stuff had any merit in self-defense or the cage.

@@tjl4688 Huh? Eddie has open hand jj tournaments, which is the closest you can get to actually someone punching you in the face.

@@SteelRhinoXpress And look how fast the fight strategy changed when that started; no more 50/50.

@@graciescottsdale Doesn't mean it It's not effective. Everything evolves or you get left in the dust.

MegaSkilla Gracie Jiu jitsu is the foundation of Brazilian Jiu jitsu, GJiu Jitsu was made to beat the other systems, sport Jiu jitsu was made to compete among each other.

@MegaSkilla to assume only the gracies can do combat jujitsu and then call everyone else ignorant is laughable. They don't have a monopoly on grappling in real fights.

@@johnnythepillpopper1974 that is more combat bjj vs sport bjj, Gracie is just one brand when it comes to combat bjj. It's a trustworthy brand, but still only one of many.

Carlson said it best, self defence is for defending against people who don't know jiujitsu, jiujitsu is for defending yourself against other jiujitsu fighters. You're just parroting Rickson and Royce. Rickson is a champion, but still made dubious claims, Royce never won a championship, but did well against guys who didn't know jiujitsu. Good jiujitsu is knowing how to defend yourself and cross training (something Royce disagrees with), if you can defend punches, manage distance, get the takedown and stay on top to finish, or reverse to get on top, you should be able to defend yourself on the street. Plenty of mma fighters have made bjj work , without being trained in gjj, because they train for the parameters. It Doesn't take much to know if you fight on the street, beat them standing or if you're close takedown and finish fast (most likely with strikes), but watch your back and if you're on your back sweep, or stand up... Muay thai and bjj will likely neutralise someone of the same rank in gjj.

@@tonysmith1949 The only problem now is that thanks to cage fighting, many people know the basics, they’re armchair Jiu jiteros. So now if you don’t know groud fighting your at a disadvantage because most people have been exposed to it.

All of above.

I'm only a blue belt but the impression I get is - John Danaher (Renzo Gracie) specializes in leg locks (historically risky in MMA.) Therefore, I'd classify Danaher's subsection as BJJ, instead of GJJ.

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Your assumptions are all pretty much spot on. Judo is definitely harder on your body, but still useful for an older person to gain a greater sense of balance, leverage, and body control...so as to be able to avoid being thrown to the ground in the first place. Just gotta decide if you're willing to suffer those aches and brushes along the way. 😅

@@Daddy_Bear_722 thx for the answer! well looks like i still have time to decide because of this virus craziness...

You are right, I will be releasing a video talking about the origins of BJJ in the next few days.

@@MMALeech Sorry about the haziness, but you are also right. I just wanted to make people realise the 2 different root beginnings of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Gracie Jiu Jitsu. The only common share between BJJ and GJJ from day one was Maeda. It all started in Brazil from Maeda and his friends (who also made their separate trips to many other countries, Shimitsu and Laku were Japanese from Argentina and Peru, first enemies and later in Brazil they merged their Japanese grappling root knowledges) from the Kodokan base and were send out to spread Judo from Jigoro Kano. Kano himself created Judo which came from old school Japanese Jiujitsu he learned as a youngster. Maeda travelled many years to other places before he went for the second time to Brazil and settled and married. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu from its roots is opensource. Maeda and his friends used the source code from Kano, opened it up, re-coded it and spread their new opensource code to their Brazilian students like Gracie and Franca..

@@MMALeech Great tip: read this book: www.bunasawakai.com/book

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10th planet jiu jitsu was made for mma,it has some sport techniques but the majority of techniques are made for mma, specially the rubber guard