One day I asked my BJJ instructor about Japanese Ju Jutsu and he put it in a great perspective for me. He said if the samurai hadn't survived with Ju Jutsu, Judo would never have evolved. If Judo hadn't evolved, neither would BJJ

I practiced Japanese jujitsu for 6 years, we did judo and wrestling takedowns with Brazilian jujitsu ground work. Yes we rolled at the end of every night starting from standing up. I do Brazilian jujitsu now and preferred the Japanese more for the style. It all depends on the gym and the teacher.

From everything I've read. Judo and bjj are direct descendants and only parts of the original trditional jujitsu.

I learnt Japanese jujitsu in the 90's for about 5 years before I knew what Brazilian JJ was. Japanese jujitsu seems in hindsight more instant to take people down. less of a sport and more lethal self defence takedowns. that's what I got from it. I really enjoyed it and the gym environment was super welcoming and friendly.

Do Both! I love them both and they compliment each other perfectly because one picks up where the other leaves off.

I did a Japanese style and we did free fighting which was striking, throws and ground work. We also did straight ground work. I think it’s more a school thing than a style thing. The most important thing is to make sure the instructor is qualified and didn’t just make up his rank or buy it from a cereal box

The reason why Japanese Jujitsu is practiced in more controlled situations and environments is because it derives from Samurai hand-to-hand fighting. Jujitsu in its traditional style is meant to kill, seriously injure or cripple the opponent long enough for you to get out of there. Karate, BJJ and every other martial art is dangerous in uncontrolled environments too, but JJJ can(and was meant to) be very deadly. Concepts and techniques used in JJJ, especially the locks, can very much break bones and cause permanent or long-term injuries. Hell, Judo was formed by taking all the techniques from JJJ, looking at what causes irreversible damage and taking it out. Judo and BJJ are, in most cases, JJJ but made appropriate for sport

Japanese Jujutsu is a category. There are a lot of different styles and many do actually practice live situations. It was what the samurai practiced and each clan did their own styles, and there were styles within those clans themselves sometimes, too. Kano's style was just Jujutsu with the idea that you were responsible for your training partners' safety. He also added/adjusted techniques that were more scientifically focused. The reason many of those strikes and some other techniques seem inefficient for self-defense is because Japanese Jujutsu was made to fight against another samurai with his armor on. Try punching that armor and see how that works for you ;) The strikes were meant to hit vulnerable points in the armor and to set up locks, which were the techniques that the armor was not impervious to. Thanks for being so transparent, Chewy! I appreciate your candor and experience. I especially appreciated the part at the end about what he should look for in each style no matter what he chooses to go for.

Japanese Jujutsu is strikes, weapons, throws and self defense

Thankfully I train at a japanese jiu-jitsu gym where we do quite a lot of action and live training

Well for short: BJJ is more like a Fighting Sport and JJJ is more like a Martial Art?

Good vid. Just a quick correction: Judo was created as a safer, more respectable version of Ju- Jitsu as there were regular bouts between rival schools that often ended in serious injury. Kano took out the more dangerous stuff so it could be practised safely.

I've been doing Japanese jiu jitsu for 11 years. We do live training as well as choreographed routines. A lot of people don't seem to understand that a predetermined routine is often necessary for the safety of the person receiving the technique. The techniques of JJJ are designed to cripple or kill someone, not to win points in a tournament. If we applied the moves at full force, our classmates would end up in the hospital. Therefore, everything must be modified for safety. Trust me, JJJ works on the street. I know from personal experience.

I'm a blue belt in Japanese Goshin Nihon Newaza Jujutsu. My experience is kind of the opposite that Chewy had. I too seek purely self defense knowledge. I cut my teeth on BJJ and did it for a year and a half as white belt. Learned some good fundamentals on the ground, but almost nothing from standing. Where do fights start? On the feet 99 percent of the time. Then I trained in Japanese and I learned lots on my feet, but it is still primarily ground fighting because it is a newaza dojo. The main difference I noticed is the curriculum includes so much more in self defense mind set, and even includes weapons both standing and on the ground. Rolling with a rubber knife just scares the crap out of me and is a clear picture of why you stand on your damn feet if at all possible in a street self defense scenario. This is a huge problem with BJJ. The priority is upside down. They strive to take it to the ground in the *majority(not all) of bjj dojos. This is backwards to real life. On the street you better stay standing, and if you go down you get back up asap. This is ironically why we train on the ground. So we can be comfortable there and not panic, and so we can have the skill to get back up as soon as we can do so with as little effort and energy expended. We must remember where Jujutsu came from. It is a brutal battlefield killing art. They didn't want to be on the ground, or tied to someone in a joint lock because then dude next to them stabs them in the throat. Sometimes it is unavoidable though. That is street reality also. When you have full mount and are smashing your attackers face into the ground his buddy comes behind you and cuts your throat or bashes you in the head with a rock. Train like you would fight. Get up, and get out. Dont tie yourself up in a knot on the ground so someone can kill you. That's not Jujutsu. If you learn it, learn it for real how it was created and what it was created for. Learn Jujutsu.

It really does not matter. Find a martial art that makes you happy and feel good about yourself and do it.

I have to agree with what Chewy said at the end. Make sure where ever you go make sure they offer what you are looking for. It is hard to ask one person what is the best style because as Chewy said it is bias, and in the end it is your experience, and what works for you. I know Chewy said that in his experience he watched the JJJ guys not do live training, and that can play a part in your thought process, but two every place is different. I am enrolled in a JJJ or "traditional" jiu-jitsu school, and I can tell you we do live training, and not just on the ground. Our training session we put on pads, and hybrid gloves, and we go at it with strikes, throws, takedowns, and ground fighting. We do it all. When we do ground fighting it is rough, and sometimes will last all class. I am definitely not knocking bjj because it is needed. Most fights are going to end on the ground. The thing that I would like to see in videos, and maybe this could be a new Chewy section is bjj in self defense. How bjj would work and be affective in the street when there is no gi, and if a weapon is produced, or the big thing I had a question about is how bjj would work in a multiple attacker situation.

Personally, I train both BJJ and traditional martial arts, and its because I enjoy both. I aggree 100% when it comes to what you said(and I have recommended BJJ as a style for those into selfdefense), but for me its about loving all aspects of the various styles. I love BJJ (ever since I started little over a year ago), but I equally love TKD wich I have been doing for years. Same with Judo, kickboxing and all the other styles I have trained over the years. For me its about enjoying what I do. Might be weird for some, but just my personal view on it.

If you're a black belt in BJJ do you have to start as white if you were to go over to JJJ? If they have to start from white would it take a really short amount of time for a BJJ blackbelt to receive a black belt in JJJ?

I do JJJ and I agree with you too many JJJ schools do techniques without ever testing them on resisting or live opponents. For my school we do work with live opponents and when it comes to grappling it's similar to bjj but starting on our knees. I think with a higher focus on live training JJJ could be the most effective martial art because it's so well rounded. Look at some JJJ tournaments on line in Europe they have such a wide range of skills because they work in a live way and the art covers so much (hence it's the mother art of so many sports)

This man was very truthful and he presented himself quite well.

Testing Monday for my 3rd deg in Japanese jujitsu however have rolled many times with BJJ guys. That being said, taking into account that ever dojo is different, it really comes down to what you want to get good at. Where I train, we fight standing and on the ground equally and over time, have noticed the following. BBJ has lost skill standing, throws, but gained skill in ground fighting. My humble recommendation is pick the most balanced for you, conceding I am biased as well toward Japanese jujitsu because I want to stay on my feet and throw the other guy on his ass if possible. ALSO, visit the dojo in question and try it before you commit.

I study JJJ and we absolutely train live.

That's very true what you're saying here and it does all depend on the one training you. I learned capoeira years ago from a mestre who was very playfull but in the same time focussed on very close combat-situations and actually trained us to take the pains that go with it. he called it : ' go really IN the play'. Over the years I moved from that city and had different mestres, but they always told me to stay further from my opponent, almost shadowing eachother, which I really disagreed on and eventually returned to my first mestre. And it actually helped me alot, now few years back I came into a pretty nasty situation with some friends of mine and were attacked by several people durig a city-festival. People got drunk etcetc, so no surprise there...however..i managed to throw of several people by hardly doing anything and purely acting out of reflex, not even used real capoeira, also didn't intend to. But thanks to that mestre, to this method of very close reflex-training and reactionmoves, i really could defend myself without actually attacking anyone. And believe me, even how bad i wanted to kick them, I didn't need to..and truely was amazed by my own reflexes and actions. by just turning away, or pushing them away, I actually used their own 'power' against them. And that was exactly what my mestre always told us why we should train close, with the danger of truely going home with black eyes and a bloody nose ( yes that happened sometimes) ...and he was correct! I f you want to learn to defend yourself, no matter in what diciplin, you need to train in real life and close combat. And some may say capoeira isn't truely a martial art like jujitsu or alikes, but in real life situations, those reflexes and moves become a natural instinct to get your body out of harms way, and that's the main purpose for me when it's really needed. Luckily in now almost 17years, I only needed it once... I also do have a history in Judo and taekwondo, though that was when I was alot younger, started with Judo when I was 5y old.

This sounds like good advice to me. For the first three months of rolling in BJJ I was instantly panicking, unable to think and exhausting myself within a minute or so. I'm now beginning to find myself much calmer, more aware and able to slow things down and think about it. I expect this will translate well if I ever find myself in a self defence situation.

As a former judoka (sadly haven't trained in years) I can personally attest to what you are saying. Our dojo was in a larger building that shared spaces with other martial arts, including Japanese Jujutsu and Aikido. Live resistance is the only realistic training method in Judo and when we would challenge the aforementioned dojos, their lack of such training would show.

Good points. I trained at an aikido dojo for two years, and bjj sparring has helped me learn to use some of those techniques against a resisting opponent. It largely depends on your personal approach and mentality towards training. My aikido class didn't have any live sparring so I did supplemental training at home with training partners who practice bjj.

no live training? i randori all the time as a judoka

I’ve trained Japanese jiu-jitsu for 3-4 years now, and I’ve had the experience of live training (stand up sparring and rolling). Personally, the only difference I found in BJJ was the fact that you can’t strike in BJJ, and there’s more of a focus on ground game/ submissions. I think both styles are awesome and would be useful to do either of them.

the thing with jjj is they do everything (striking/takedowns /groundgame) and don't focus on 1 thing so they are pretty allround but they don't exel at 1 thing. where Judo is 90% throws so they are masters at that but they are rubbish strikers and the groundgame is not as good as jiujitsu guys. bjj is 90% groundgame so they are masters on the ground but the takedowns are not as good as judo guys. i think Judo is better than jjj in throwing but not in striking or the groundgame, bjj is better than jjj on the ground but not in striking or takedowns, say karate is better than jjj in striking but not in takedowns or on the ground

Thank you for sharing, I completely agreed with you and just like any thing from profession to sport! You pick something you like and stick with it!

Love your vids bro! Keep me coming. God Bless

He's right on the money here about the training methodology being the key.

If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area check out for JJJ go to Cahills Judo and Jujitsu in San Bruno. You'll get the kata, sport and real life application. Every movement is broken down in those 3 areas. Plenty of sparring. Like he said it's the mentality of the school that will determine the effectiveness of the training in real life applications.

Great video and content, live training is super important.

I've had the same question asked to me as a martial artist and police trainer. I've trained in several martial arts, but my main arts are Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Krav Maga. I agree with what you are saying about the live training aspect, but I also encourage people to follow their on journey with whatever martial art they choose, because most likely they will learn something from each one. I'm a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu and an instructor level in Krav Maga, but I've learned things from several other martial arts that fits into what I prefer. I've actually done Kali with the sticks and thought to myself when will I ever meet up with someone and hit each other with sticks, but I found the movement and fluidity was something that I could use somewhere else. I appreciate the dialogue and what you have to offer.

This video reflects my experience. My JJJ dojo does more "live" after black belt. The thing is, which you didn't comment upon, is in JJJ - the intention and training is always to injure your opponent. Not sure how you would practice that live with untrained students. But I agree, people need sparring to integrate muscle memory with hormonal hyper-focus and fear.

This is my experience dead on. I did JJJ for almost a year before I did BJJ. I also did aikido for 6 years before BJJ. I tell everyone the techniques are fine but its the application of the training of said techniques that sets BJJ apart.

First, great video. Dead on in terms of stressing the importance of live training. A huge flaw in many (but not all) JJJ dojos is the lack of such training. In our school, we have a large JJJ program that does do a variety of regular live training (sparring, rolling, multiple attacker live scenario, etc) and also cross trains in BJJ and other striking arts (Muay Thai, Boxing). Sometimes as well, Japanese jujitsu curriculums tend to be quite archaic when dealing with self defense against weapons. As a result, we have done away with the traditional weapon defenses (as I believe they would get you killed) in favor of working in some Escrima/Kali (which also does some cool live training). People in traditional circles LOVE to throw shade at competition training, but combat sports and competitive environments are VERY helpful in cultivating the physical and psychological ability to face a genuine violent encounter. Because of this mindset at our school, students who have sought to compete (in BJJ tournaments, MMA, Kickboxing, Boxing, Sport Karate) have had noticeable benefits from their JJJ (often getting the throw or takedown in BJJ tournaments, excellent counter punch timing and accuracy in MMA and Kickboxing, for instance) and have been quite successful. You are completely correct and have stated it very well. ANY martial art class or program that is not incorporating live training is not truly preparing someone for self defense. Though here I think it's less a matter of what style is better to train and more a matter of what component of training must be present in ANY style to make it and its practitioner most effective. Keep up the great work!

Well said. Full contact, Full On Sparring is always a better way to train then just practicing technics with more or less choreographed training/sparring

Judo is Jujustu-light. It is designed as a sport. Jujustu is a martial art (six schools samurai, three ninja, Jujustu belongs to the samurai-schools) - Art of war. BJJ is also a sport, but more realistic and is a derivative from Judo. Therefore if you are going to train grappling for selfdefence you must train like Judo and BJJ-competitors if your system is Jujustu. If you are going to use pressure-points, small-joint manipulation and striking and all the deadly techniques like a sport, then you probably will have some problems getting somebody to train with you. There is a reason why the sport mma have rules. MMA is a combination of sports. It is very close to realistic fighting, one to one, no weapon.

'Real' JJJ would be more like MMA, but without the rules. Almost like the first UFCs, except groin kicks, eye gouges, etc are incorporated.

Well said. Great advice👍

In my JJJ class we do a lot of randori and many times we do live training where the opponent can attack you however they want (of course being a bit careful) and we work a lot on our reaction, techniques and being surprised with various attacks. Randori is also another part of this 'live training', however I do prefer the training I just described where we get 'attacked' by the opponent not knowing what they will do.

Here's a question for you chewy. My judo instructor recently told me that I think to much like a wrestler (since I have wrestled all throughout school) what should I do to get rid of my wrestling habits.

I trained Japanese Jujitsu for a long time, my instructor gave me a brown belt. We also trained live, I trained all across the country because I was in the Coast Guard for awhile, I was always competitive. I believe my brown belt in ju jitsu made me stronger than most blue belts I came across and I was strong enough to defend myself against Purple belts. I am definitely not a brown in BJJ. BJJ is way more fleshed out on the ground. I finally have a home school in BJJ and currently wear a white belt, many classes we drill stuff I've learned but there are a lot positions that we never trained in Japanese Jujitsu.

Awesome video thank you

my dojo we train Japanese jujitsu and do live sparing/rolling quite often. we have a handful of us that compete in mma. sweet vids dude

I did JJJ from 6 to 13 years and we did quite a bit of live training but i also have done a bit of BJJ ass well and i feel like when JJJ dos do live its more realistic then BJJ But in BJJ they do live allot more. great vid and sorry for bad English i´m from Sweden

I just started JJJ , will do yellow belt exam this month, have exp before in kickboxing and pencak silat , as well as military training. Guess it all really depends on who your teacher is. Mine looks like someone you see at the door of a famous discotheque, and also trains personnel in mental institutions , police and self defence for women. Let's just say he has a lot of real life experience in how to use jui jitsu. At the end of every training we have to spar, first part is standing up without takedowns and groundfight, second part is with ( otherwise everyone goes straight to the gorund in first part ) . Rule is : don't break anything . I asked him if I could use kickboxing , he said hell yeah , we have all those moves to. He always emphasizes real life situations , and almost every training, when doing "those set exercises " he emphasises not to make it too easy for your partner. I also aksed him about competition. He tried to set up a competition, without any techniques banned, but it ended because of people having too many injuries. Trained yesterday evening, can feel every joint, muscle , and bone in my body ... Also because when we are training , he comes by and acts like a real life attacker , with almost no warning, and always says "this is how this will go in real life ". And when you do something else to him then said exercise , because , things worked out differently , he only applaudes that, because, he says, in real life it never goes as planned. Guess we're just a lucky bunch to have him as our teacher ...

Hey chewy! How did you stay motivated to keep training when you started?

Omg I'm so glad that someone understands some history of martial arts.

As a JJJ Black Belt I agree with your assessment. That's why 20 years ago I started BJJ and use both arts, I have learned to drill JJJ techniques live and have modified or cut some techniques out all together but my training also helps me understand leverage and structure better.

Japanese Ju Jitsu: Ancient Japan used in military conflict when unarmed against a person who was armed. Brazilian Ju Jitsu: Brazil 1900's used in street combat often against Capoeira or similar striking arts.

Years ago, I did a few years of training in traditional jujitsu and then I did a few years in a style that was based on BJJ. After many years of hanging out at bars and clubs I accumulated various experiences of confrontation and I formed the view that traditional was superior for self defence. A key difference is the priority BJJ has towards going to the ground. I imagine if I got on a ring, I would prefer BJJ, but in a street fight, isn't it obvious that it is beneficial to stay on our feet? Especially when there are others around, and aren't there always?

Your videos are great!

Speaking of live training if you can do it slow speed will come automatically

I did Ryu Ju Jitsu, we purely practiced technique. I think you're underestimating how important technique is, of course in reality you don't know if someone is going to be throwing overhands or hooks at you, but if you practiced over and over it will become instinctive. If you're only doing live you're going to have awful technique but you'll be more of an athlete. In my opinion once you've mastered the technique only then should you practice live

Done both, learned a lot of from both of them and have used what I have been taught from both.

Very good analysis / explanation. You have to train / sparr as close to real situations as possible. Even most styles of karate by not allowing strikes to the face are really limiting the effectiveness of the style (which has great principles and could be much higher)

What happens if there are multiple attackers? Surely it's dangerous sometimes to go to ground if there's other attackers around?

Japanese cover strikes and more takedowns, locks to quick breaks.. less on the ground depending who your coach is. For self defence, you really don't want to be on the ground.. more than one attacker if you are trying to choke someone out, your dead. Chewjitsu has a good point in how things are trained, more combat in traditional would improve it... but as for the arts themselves, Japanese Jujutsu would be far more self defence oriented. Much more "dirty tricks" in Japanese... but the live situation, even with all the rules and things you can't do, is very useful.. Maybe do both, you get to know your body and how you/others will respond more with full contact ground work/bjj grappling ... so yes on the live training.. self defence really should have strikes in it in my own view. Take downs etc are much more effective after a slap in the head, poke in the ribs etc.. even a moderate strike to the face area can put a person off balance setting you up[ perfectly for a throw/sweep/break.. in the street, the opponent can be finished with one throw. My own background is in traditional, but have started BJJ to get more "live" practice, and it is also good fun.. you can't test all your guns, but you can test many.. and see which ones need oiling. Great for the brain as well. but really, if you are attacked, avoid the ground like the plague. .. and if you end up there, get up quick and be aware of whats around you. Bothe will help you know how to get up from the ground, Japanese might involve more strikes, gouges etc. BJJ/live training will let you know what it feel like to have someone really fighting your efforts though.. if you can get up without strikes, then with strikes, it will only be easier. Traditional self defence arts should probably get more live training in, some do, some don't.. some do close to none.. bjj etc aren't totally real world, but you learn a lot from it. Totally real world could end up like getting mugged three times a week, so we have to work out what is as close to that, without wearing us down and being impractical. Good and balanced video, hard to remove our own biases, but being aware of them is pretty close. A Traditional class that had a sports jujutsu/bjj part, would be great.. maybe have grappling from standing that allowed strikes to body, legs etc not the head.. then maybe a separate sparing that had gloves used.. cover all bases. It would be great to not have to have an 'either or" situation... but as we all know it can come down to one work "politics"

Your advice is really amazing Life training that’s what we all want that really helps us to focus whenever we training something I just started Traditional Japanese jujitsu before I was doing boxing, wrestling mainly then I went to tae kwon do ITF, also I’m still continuing with tae kwon do and traditional Japanese jujitsu, thumbs up for you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hi, I have a question what should I do because when I'm grappling my training partner only defends but he never will go after the submission.

well, i think that you should see more classes of japanese ju jutsu because we train in life situations. Don't forget that bjj is a martial arts which has ground fight as fundamental idea and japanese ju jutsu is a martial art with very techniques like punches, kicks, throws, ground fighting which can be use effectively on a real life situation.

I think your history of these styles is pretty far off. First of all, I want to clarify that I see 5 main purposes for styles: combat, self-defense, sport, physical self-improvement, and mental self-improvement. Jujutsu is probably the oldest of the Japanese martial arts, likely to have derived from Chinese Chin-na. Both styles are ancient and were focused on combat, with the self improvement aspects being secondary, and sport being tertiary. Judo is the sport based child of Jujutsu, invented by Kano. It was brought about after the Meiji Restoration; when the Samurai class itself was banned and the instruction of any martial arts was at least frowned upon, if not punishable. Turning Jujutsu into a sport was the only way to save it from extinction. However, for many years, the difference between "judo" and "jujutsu" was a bit blurry as true combat techniques were still being encouraged in many schools, but the focus continued to slide to the sport side. Sport is definitely the focus, with self defense and self improvement being secondary concepts. Brasilian Jujutsu is an offshoot of one of these early Judo styles that still included much of the older combat applications. Hence the return to the word "jujutsu" rather than using the label "Brasilian Judo". Brasilian Jujutsu truly took form when the competitive events led to improvements in the style which had grown stagnant. The focus of this style became self defense, then sport, then physical self-improvement, with combat and mental self-improvements being least addressed. Judo was in no way an improvement of Jujutsu - it was the watering down of one of the most successful martial arts into a sport. We see this same failure occurring in UFC as the piles of rules continue to take what was making martial arts rapidly evolve (see UFC 1-10) and turning it into a silly sporting event (see the ridiculous people crawling around so they can't be legally kicked in the head). I agree that sparring/rolling is the best way to find what works and get rid of the garbage, but the rules will continue to make BJJ turn into Judo in the long run.

This is fair balanced and good advice. While at university As a judo person I always admired and was impressed at some of the cool jujutsu techniques of our sister club, but when it came to contests the judo guys were better due to the style of real world training

Thanks for this. Repeatedly I have heard this same thing from open minded experts from different disciplines: the best martial art for self defense is the one where you spar and do live training.

A few years ago I was a BJJ blue belt, 60kg, and went to train at a Japanese jiu jitsu gym and I we did some sparring and I tapped two black belts easily, several times.. So in terms of which martial art is more effective I say Brazilian jiu jitsu all the way.

I grew up doing Japanese JJ and this is definitely accurate. We'd spend all this time learning all these traditional techniques, then when it came to sparring we'd kickbox, for some reason, with no opportunity to try any of the techniques we'd learned and no real idea what we were doing. We'd roll sometimes too, with similar results.

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He makes some good points, Live training is great fun and probably the best cardio strength and endurance training you can get.

I've been doing bjj for a little over a year and my gym is awesome but I do wish we did more takedowns. If it weren't for my prior wrestling experience I think I would've been sol when I did my first bjj tournament a couple weeks ago. I could tell that the other white belts didn't do takedowns at their gym either but I could also tell they never wrestled before, so I had what felt like a huge advantage over everyone there

I agree with what Joe Rogan says regarding martial arts; all can be effective against untrained guys, but the best techniques work against people who know how to fight. In JJJ, the sort of strikes that they learn to counter are very unrealistic. Tough dudes though, they get thrown around a hell of a lot and keep going!

Thank you so much for these clear words! I've been doing Kickboxing for a long time. Not as intensive, but over more than 20 years. Now I'm 46 and looking for sth. without jumping around etc. :-) I actually don't think that I'll stick into BJJ, but you said one very important thing that helps me: Whatever you do, watch out that it is realistic training (at least that's what I assumed :-) ) Thank you and Greetz from Germany ;-)

Well said sir!

As a dude who trained Kenka Aiki-Jitsu right before the UFC started, this is pretty much spot on.

The problem with Japanese Jujutsu (and I have some experience in both), is that it's considered more of a historical art today in Japan, rather than a living combative art. We in the west think of it more like learning how to fight, but the Japanese think of it more like a historical re-enactment. That's why they don't think it's too important to adapt and train live, because in the Japanese practitioner's mind, they're learning to re-enact how the samurai who did X school did things in a certain way. There are exceptions, but that mentality is very prominent among practitioners and is pushed by the government who has certain laws in place that limit the effectiveness of the application of koryu (old-school samurai arts) in modern contexts. Also, a lot of it is period-specific (like many of the techniques were meant to be used to augment having a sword or knife, which is why they don't bother going to the ground for a submission - in the old days, you had a knife to do your "submission" for you, you just needed to pin the opponent to the ground long enough to finish the job).

Well said! I practice Aikido, and I am well aware of the flaws in traditional training. It's tough, but I do find like minded people on the mat who don't mind practicing in a more "live" environment. Anyway, I agree with your perspective whole heartedly! Thanks!

People also got to remember Japanese ju jujitsu is a battle field art so is designed break or kill there opponent so hard to spar full on

Sorta unrelated, BJJ should honestly not be called “Brazilian”. Yes many Brazilians pioneered the sport to what it is now, but BJJ was brought to Brazil my Maeda and he almost gets no credit for it, instead we see the Gracies with red belts around their waists being glorifies for inventing or improving Jiu Jitsu when its far from the fact. The Jiu Jitsu that Maeda brought to Brazil was more of an extension of Judo Ne Waza, the introduction of the Gracie challenge and its rule set honestly watered down the more aggressive Jiu Jitsu that Maeda introduced into the Gracie’s guard game which is essentially stalling.

BEST .. DAMN... ADVICE .....EVER.... love it and it's true. I train in Dallas with Machado's and we get pretty close to full on, a hair shy of a real fight and it does help. If someone has always been afraid of fighting, but wants to protect themselves in a worse cased scenario, the answer is put yourself in a training class like this to learn to check your emotions and clear cob webs of fear. All of it will transfer when the time is needed in a real fight.

I do Japanese Jiu Jitsu and we do practice live. You cannot avoid it if you do a sport martial art because it won't work at a competition then. And if it doesn't work at a competition, why would if work in real life situation, which is much more stressed and unpredictable. So, the basic question is not whether you practice this or that MA, but whether you have sparrings and competitions and what limitations there are. Also, there is another aspect. When you practice puches, kicks, throws, takedowns and ground wrestling (as we do in JJJ), you will definetely be weaker on the groung than the one who practices only on the ground. So, the question is what gives you more chances for victory: being more universal or being stronger in one particular aspect? Well, I don't have the answer. Anyway, great respect for anyone who does any MA. The one who practice and think a lot is definetely stronget than the one who seats on a coach choosing the best MA. So, go and try any and choose what you like more. For me it is JJJ, because I have a great trainer and guys there.

I think you always have to spar, in all MArts

Royce Gracie vs EVERYONE in UFC 1, 2 and 4.... nuff said 😁

I personally do BJJ(white belt) but I've rolled with a friend who does a mix of kito-ryu and daito-ryu and he's a pretty good grappler so it kinda depends on who's teaching what

Both are very important in order to being fully prepared for any situation that requires self-defense!

In Japanese jujitsu a big part of it is learning how to use the swords/ sticks. Unarmed training is built around that. we have a separate "grappling" class that's basically bjj in all but name.

tradicional Jujutsu has lots of Ryu-Ha more than 500 different branches and it's made for war period. .. It's a great part of the Bujutsu world it has ground fight, throws , projections from different stands and angles it has also kicks and punches and locks. .. they train against armed attackers and more than one attacker you train against everything knifes bats sticks whatever. .. it had a great infase in real self-defense against more than one attacker and you train with arms too so it's complete and difficult to compete with out someone getting hurt ... it's not made for that it was made to survive to kill for war ... Bjj it's a bit different it's competitive it's good but it's not for war or to fight more than one attacker or attackers with knifes and bats no Bjj it's not for than its made to compete men against men in a sports way here the ground fight the grappling is it controled ... to compete Bjj had to take out many techniques because they can't use them in competition. .. Ok Bjj toke techniques from various arts like Jujutsu tradicional and judo and some other arts , but the founders of Bjj they were trained in traditional Japanese Jujutsu and mister Helio he saw this problem with Jujutsu and had to made changes in order to create an art effective and efficient to compete because with traditional Jujutsu it was to dangerous to do what they do in Bjj competitions that it looks more with judo than Jujutsu with no Gi fights. ... They made a fantastic art for one on one competition but that's it ... Each one must be where it belongs one for street fight and war and the other for combate sports and grappling events and that's it .... I eared the son of Helio Grace saying that with this ufc thing the Bjj start to lose some of the techniques that it was thought in the bigening when the vale tudo was the big picture back then. And he said that punches and kicks are going to return to Bjj, the throws and a lot more, because Bjj is to focus on the ufc world today but Bjj it's much much more. .. Like I said they change the Jujutsu taking this and that technique and bringing techniques from other arts like Sambo, wrestling , judo etc and they made Bjj for street combat in the bigening and now it's a complete different art ... they (the sons of Helio ) want to bring back those techniques that were there since the beginning and got lost because of the Ufc ..and the competitions .... even the self-defense part was forgotten, Bjj had much more self defense techniques that it has today .. You can see the video on KZfaq about this with (master Helio' s son ) so Bjj change a lot. .. it's focus on sports and Jujutsu its for surviving for war...

Hey chewy, love your channel. I wanted to ask if you have ever been in street fights? If yes then please do share your experience with us. Thanks.

Great explanation. It really helped develop my views on Japanese Jujutsu.

Try hokotoryu Jiu Jutsu. those guys are monsters .

i train in japanese jujitsu and we roll every night

HEY CHEWIE! I come from a Japanese Jujutsu background and I agree with you on JJJ being similar to BJJ. Also, again they don't practice live, I have recently started BJJ and been corrected on my technique for specific small things like head is too high or not based enough. I love how it has improved my JJJ when I go back and practice with my original training partners.

I agree with you and im a first degree black belt in JJJ. We did full contact sparring but rarely practiced the actual grappling and submission aspect. This was due in part to the fact we participated in karate tournaments rather than jiu jitsu tournaments.

Jesus I’d say biased. So because 1 gym didn’t spar means every gym doesn’t now...

the reason original jj is the way it is lies withe the fact it was used by samurai to fight un armed people. it was the highest trained warriors in the land fighting much lesser opponents. (it was very dishonorable to fight an un armed man with a sword) also modern judo has evolved a lot since kano-jj. You can also poke holes in any martial art for practical use. Look at how lacking soo many bjj schools are in take down training, (lets start from knees) to the raw danger of being on the ground in a real fight.

Good stuff brother.

At least in my JJJ dojo we go full randori throws/newaza. It also helps that our sensei also coaches the Olympic judo team and local police. We also cross train with BJJ, which is really cool.

I feel like Japanese jujitsu is just judo without sparring and bjj is judo with no throws and better groundwork. I feel like judo is more complete and bjj is more refined but jjj has the worst of both worlds

Japanese jujutsu is the mother art ... used in ancient battlefield ... bjj is more like a game