What's the (new) deal with Mordekaiser? || character design & lore discussion

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What's the (old) deal with Mordekaiser? • What's the deal with M...
Old vs New: Mordekaiser • OLD VS NEW: Mordekaise...
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The Iron Revenant is finally in the game, and his animations can finally be picked over in detail on teemo.gg (thanks guys), so let's have a chat about League of Legends' latest world-ending supervillain, his role in the lore of the grand schemes of Runeterra and discuss the sometimes slightly goofy look of his animations and what purpose they serve.

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@Naxthural
@Naxthural 5 жыл бұрын
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. Mordekaiser was promised Valhalla, didn't get it and then looked up and said "FINE. I'LL BUILD MY OWN VALHALLA! WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS!"
@asrieldreemurr1918
@asrieldreemurr1918 3 жыл бұрын
And you know what forget the hooker!
@singtothesilence
@singtothesilence 3 жыл бұрын
Just Karen-ing to Valhalla
@markofthebeast2130
@markofthebeast2130 3 жыл бұрын
@@singtothesilence well, Karen won't make It by herself
@eliasmagus5086
@eliasmagus5086 3 жыл бұрын
@@asrieldreemurr1918 nah you cant forget the hookers
@user-oo2kc6fy7z
@user-oo2kc6fy7z 2 жыл бұрын
Is that from futurama ?
@tktvr9703
@tktvr9703 4 жыл бұрын
basically Runeterra is one giant ticking time bomb and there are over 100 Triggers
@qballa2787
@qballa2787 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like 40k
@robberyproductions1363
@robberyproductions1363 2 жыл бұрын
@@qballa2787 You aren't wrong
@wyvern723
@wyvern723 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@telivan776
@telivan776 2 жыл бұрын
Literally every fantasy setting given enough time and plot hooks
@dylanknight1237
@dylanknight1237 2 жыл бұрын
Would be lovely if the league of legends just became "everyone on runeterra capable of ending or saving the world"
@young_cheeseburger
@young_cheeseburger 5 жыл бұрын
Void: "He's the world ender!" (Points at Aatrox) "He's the world ender!" (Points at Mordekaiser) "I'M THE WORLD ENDER!" "ARE THERE ANYMORE WORLD ENDER'S I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?" World Runes: "Meow."
@nemanjaz.9113
@nemanjaz.9113 5 жыл бұрын
Splendid Spongebob referance good sir
@young_cheeseburger
@young_cheeseburger 5 жыл бұрын
@@nemanjaz.9113 thank you kindly
@dunkleham
@dunkleham 3 жыл бұрын
Viego: meow
@emetanti
@emetanti 3 жыл бұрын
Its honestly less of a problem than it sounds given those threats all have conflicting goals with another and basically the Endtimes scenario would happen where you have Mordekaiser subjugating the Shadow Isles and probably getting into fisticuffs with the Void perhaps hijacking the Darkin and World Runes over who gets to be Supreme Ruler with everyone else kinda praying/trying to make them take each other out.
@quentingalloway8882
@quentingalloway8882 2 жыл бұрын
VOID: I'm outta here.
@Nortrodamas
@Nortrodamas 5 жыл бұрын
You get Mordekaiser to kill the void and then you get the world runes to kill Mordekaiser. Bam! Everyone then can kill each other without the world ending.
@SnowWhite-ov9of
@SnowWhite-ov9of 5 жыл бұрын
But before the Void got killed, it tried to eat the World Runes!
@thatonescarecrow4692
@thatonescarecrow4692 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, that's illegal.
@Nortrodamas
@Nortrodamas 5 жыл бұрын
@@SnowWhite-ov9of then Attrox will perform a noble sacrifice, saving the world runes and finally move on to the afterlife.
@VladDascaliuc
@VladDascaliuc 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nortrodamas I 100% would love to see Aatrox being that Raid Boss turned Last Hope and achieving his long seeked true death.
@demsterclippy4252
@demsterclippy4252 5 жыл бұрын
So basically the avengers order of villains. First Mordekaiser replaces loki, then the void wants to end existence like how ultron wanted to recreate god's rising to the heavens, and then end it all with one last champ that uses the runes as Thanos (maybe make e'm grey in morale like Thanos too), and there you go. Oh shit, i forgot the whole Darkin plot and how much power the lore implies someone like Aatrox could have.
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
Current world-ending threads: - The Void (and the Watchers): The antithesis of creation, long story short. However, as Riot has manage it entirely as a plot device more than an actual faction, don't expect much anytime soon. Also, the Watcher's retcon from last year made a plot hole, so that has to be fixed first, until then is just "something something Watchers are comin'!", and it's silly too because there's Icathia's ruins and certain places of the Shuriman desert with Void Rifts, and another at the bottom of the ocean near the Marai civilization, and yet they remain unused. Otherwise, this should be the ultimate thread. - The Black Mist: The sentient collective consciouness of all the living that have fallen to it, and with every Harrowing both increase the number of mist-spreading events aswell as covering larger terrain (right now, is possible that the next relevant Harrowing takes Ionia and Piltover too). Its only stopped by Bilgewater, and thus far hasn't happened anything new for it, so is in a similar spot as the Void in regards to lore misusage. - The World Runes: Each strong by its own, being together risks destroying Runeterra apart, and anyone capable of using them inmediatly becomes a world-thread too (e.g.: Brand). After all, is the equivalent to the Infinity Stones. - The Darkin: If these PTSD-ridden demigods return to work together once again, everyone is screwed, and gods forbid haemomancers ally with them. Virtually inmortal, self-regenerating, and able to funnel life from life around them to recover, granted celestial magic, they should be the perfect warriors walking among mortals. Thus far two are free (Aatrox and Varus), one is struggling for control (Rhaast), and three remain buried somewhere in Runeterra (Valeeva, Cebotaru and Naganeka). - Mordekaiser: Undeath conqueror wanting to shape a kingdom of his own on the afterlife and take as much subjects as he can from the living. - Xerath: Seeing himself as a god to take more than just a recovering kingdom, now everything should return to the sands. Considering he became pure energy and can control any nearby objects' energy, is an ondeal to deal with him. - Zyra: Desires to see a world were only vegetable life exists, and that means toppling down all civilizations and consuming the rest of organic life, until everything is a sole jungle.
@luantib
@luantib 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't Syndra a world end problem now? If I remember after the Ionian retcom she is like "pure and wild magic" trying to destroy everyone
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
@@luantib Sort off. She has the potential of becoming a world-ending thread as is one of the only characters directly stated as omnipotent (the other being Xerath). However, unlike Xerath, she isn't trying to go against the world (yet), she just wants to be well left alone. I suppose if anyone gets her mad enough she would go onto a rampage, but right now she only aims to destroy whoever was involved in imprisoning her and/or dampering her powers. So at best, she's a honorable mention, at least until we're given another story were she decides to unleash her powers for the sake of displaying her freedom.
@Flammenfeder
@Flammenfeder 5 жыл бұрын
Also Aurelion Sol could destroy the world as collateral damage of him freeing himself from Targon... At least that's how I understood it.
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
@@Flammenfeder he has been fully capable of freeing himself this whole time, the catch is that whenever he disobeys Targon Prime they destroy one of his stars as punishment, and he values the stars he creates too much to even try. Imagine what Targon Prime would do if he attempts to get free. In that sense however, you have to consider he has brothers and sisters, and doubt they'll like to see him leashed.
@kouyaaotsuki4757
@kouyaaotsuki4757 5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile swain getting all these visions, on the verge of a mental breakdown, with leblanc breathing on his neck
@thinkublu
@thinkublu 5 жыл бұрын
I love how German is the language of death on Runeterra and beyond
@BlackRainRaven
@BlackRainRaven 5 жыл бұрын
its quite the fun seeing other people in the league community discovering that fact xD also the transation in the video works but isnt 100% accurate. "(die) Morde" is (the) murders and "der Kaiser" is "the emperor" take morde and kaiser and you get "murder's Emperor" and not Deaths emperor but close enough i guess
@thinkublu
@thinkublu 5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackRainRaven yuppp, I'm pretty sure it was his original designer's screen name on AIM Someone felt edgy and cool I guess
@toreole5831
@toreole5831 5 жыл бұрын
BlackRainRaven i actually think the „morde“ is less direct german and more ancient germanish / latin, where there is a word like „mort“ that sounds very similar, but means „death“ so it totally fits
@takenfool1614
@takenfool1614 5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackRainRaven Well to be fair exact translation of german are not always exact to english, realistically it would be something like tod (death) Kaiser (Emperor). BEWARE THE TODKAISER...(I'm a senior in and in my 4th year of German so don't expect that to be too correct.)
@anonym0sender
@anonym0sender 5 жыл бұрын
@@takenfool1614 Todkaiser sounds like a fitting name for someone like Veigar haha
@jarmsfirstclaw
@jarmsfirstclaw 5 жыл бұрын
*kills everyone* *doesn't get a party* - surprised Pikachu face -
@NerieI
@NerieI 5 жыл бұрын
I actually like the idea of multiple "end game bosses", that are against each other. I mean Army of the death vs. the Void? Sounds fun to me. :D
@jmann1892
@jmann1892 5 жыл бұрын
The Final Boss is obviously a Triple Threat Match between Mordekaiser & his Undead Army vs The Void vs The Darkin using the World Runes
@bigvidboi4909
@bigvidboi4909 5 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone assumes kayn is dead
@bentoben10
@bentoben10 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigvidboi4909 kayn falls under Darkin territory. Like, we all know that Rhaast wins the fight, being a garden's tool or not.
@bigvidboi4909
@bigvidboi4909 5 жыл бұрын
@@bentoben10 adcs live to see another day
@thegasmaskguy613
@thegasmaskguy613 3 жыл бұрын
Also Viego and the mist joins the fun
@froirissting66
@froirissting66 3 жыл бұрын
The void is the same with the darkins
@Necrit
@Necrit 5 жыл бұрын
"infinitely more subscribers" is an invalid term.
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 5 жыл бұрын
Infinitely times a billion!
@froirissting66
@froirissting66 3 жыл бұрын
Hi necrit
@mordenator865
@mordenator865 3 жыл бұрын
@@TBSkyen only 5x now! RISE
@mordekaiser378
@mordekaiser378 2 жыл бұрын
I mean. Well... yes
@edryu9688
@edryu9688 5 жыл бұрын
We forgetting about Aatrox? Who's also trying to end the world.
@VladDascaliuc
@VladDascaliuc 5 жыл бұрын
His goal is way different than Morde's. He is not actually trying to "end the world" anyways, and of course he is not doing it for glory or for the sake of it. The poor guy is so desperate to find a way to actually die that he HOPES that MAYBE destroying everything around him might end up destroy himself, too.
@pyrefly7575
@pyrefly7575 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah as Vlad said he so fkn sick of everything in this world that just wants to die, but can't, and that makes him frustrated , that's why he's so angry and agressive , and he wants to kill ALL so that MAYBE he will somehow die at the end of all things (Wich is the name of a LotR ost)
@edryu9688
@edryu9688 5 жыл бұрын
Needless to say, it's another threat to the world
@takenfool1614
@takenfool1614 5 жыл бұрын
Vlad, Mord, Void, The Volibear, Whatever the fuck swain is trying to stop, Darkin, Xerath, Ryze, Shadow Isles, Whatever is going on with pyke and the Leviathans...so forth.
@lovre1845
@lovre1845 5 жыл бұрын
Syndra?
@imUmoron
@imUmoron 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the design work that goes into Mordekaiser's animation Mordekaiser: *comically floats away like a goofy superman* Its really strong
@thedragonknight3600
@thedragonknight3600 5 жыл бұрын
Mordekieser is literally a mashup of Sauron and Arthas. Great king of death (Arthas) in an iron suit with a giant mace (Sauron)
@emetanti
@emetanti 3 жыл бұрын
Replace Sauron with Nagash from Warhammer Fantasy and its more accurate.
@rustkarl
@rustkarl 2 жыл бұрын
@@emetanti He’s also a great architect and craftsman like Sauron so it still fits. Dol Guldur, Barad-Dur, The One Ring, The second Grond. Mordekaiser constructed the Immortal Bastion, his realm of death, his weapon Nightfall etc. So he’s still quite Sauronesque.
@raphtrap4067
@raphtrap4067 5 жыл бұрын
The void is the main boss Mordekaiser and the runes are dlc
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
The Void/The Watchers and The Black Mist are the main bosses. The World Runes, the Darkin, Mordekaiser, Zyra and Xerath are the DLC.
@tritran7565
@tritran7565 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosaez4885 the black mist < morderkaiser
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
@@tritran7565 Mordekaiser can be sent back to his realm (and is currently in it), while no-one knows how to stop the Mist, rather it progressively grows larger and covers more terrain.
@tritran7565
@tritran7565 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosaez4885 he is in the death realm to claim the power from the soul throne and will come back through the bastion. the black mist power is verry limited, can only reach out through certain occasion and doesn't have any real purpose.
@tritran7565
@tritran7565 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosaez4885 the island is tainted with undead magic and create evil spirits that haunt around runeterra , i don't think they try to spread anything or dominate the world, just a normal haunted island.
@mati3271
@mati3271 5 жыл бұрын
League of Hollow Knight: Mordekaiser starts wearing all white and messes with the void trying to control it to make himself more powerful. And then new Mordekaiser void skin :D
@teknoghost5654
@teknoghost5654 3 жыл бұрын
The Traitor Morde
@Significantharrassment
@Significantharrassment 2 жыл бұрын
@@teknoghost5654 The pure tin can
@jenvandrak
@jenvandrak 5 жыл бұрын
I think the similiarity between morde mace and thresh lantern is intentional since both of them trap souls.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
Does that shape language show up in other souly stuff?
@grantmorgan5180
@grantmorgan5180 4 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean Late reply, but the Soul series of skins (Soul Hunter/Reaver/Stealer) all have a similar swoopy-spiky aesthetic.
@paweuszcz4856
@paweuszcz4856 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact here: Thresh's lantern is actually based on Nightfall
@chrs-wltrs
@chrs-wltrs 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be really intrigued to see the heroes try to recruit the demons on to their side. Tahm Kench, Evelynn, Nocturne, they're sentient creatures, spirits that came to the physical realm to eat feast on human emotions. But you can't eat human emotions if all the humans are dead. Another thing that would be interesting, is trying to reason with Fiddlesticks' animalistic hunger. Because, obviously, Fiddlesticks wouldn't have anything to eat if there were no more humans to be afraid of it. But it doesn't have enough of an awareness to realize that. So Fiddlesticks might be a secondary antagonist while the sentient figures of Runeterra are actually planning for the future.
@CompanionPrism
@CompanionPrism 5 жыл бұрын
His closest parallel is his modern day incarnation in Swain. Where Mordekaiser wants to conquer for the glory of himself, Swain wants to conquer to create a united front.
@mpbiggame1010
@mpbiggame1010 4 жыл бұрын
oh man i absolutely love how much joy the creator gets out of recording these vids. it really is obvious, solid work too!
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@chadowsrikatemo4494
@chadowsrikatemo4494 5 жыл бұрын
My only problem with mord .... NO SKIN PLAYS A PENTAKILL SONG
@vojtazem6634
@vojtazem6634 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, while I like his new dance, why limit themselves to some guitar riffs and speakers??!!
@bigvidboi4909
@bigvidboi4909 5 жыл бұрын
@@vojtazem6634 and pentakill morde's ult is not a concert.
@toreole5831
@toreole5831 5 жыл бұрын
Chadows Rikatemo hell yeah i was disappointed when the pentakill skin didnt even play a sick riff, just some random notes yikes
@chillducky6489
@chillducky6489 3 жыл бұрын
Yorick atleast plays a part of Lightbringer
@martinberlese
@martinberlese 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: LeBlanc was actually the hero who turns Morde loose against the void and everything was actually part of the plan.
@delusionalpoet7416
@delusionalpoet7416 5 жыл бұрын
Your laughing at the his animations was the most amazing and wholesome thing ever :D
@mastermind42ful
@mastermind42ful 3 жыл бұрын
Veigar should be Mordekaiser's nemesis, have him be jealous that everyone is scared of Morde and that everyone thinks Morde is the ultimate evil so he swears to show this tin can what a master of evil really is but then Morde has no idea what the fuck Veigar even is
@rustkarl
@rustkarl 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Veigar tormented into his insanity by Mordekaiser after he curb stomped him?
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 Жыл бұрын
@@rustkarl yep pretty much
@josh4142
@josh4142 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like multiple end bosses makes the world more dynamic and open up for more interesting interactions and possibilities. It can allow for grey areas to form for even seemingly black and white heroes and villains.
@Ladygothii12
@Ladygothii12 5 жыл бұрын
So we have the Void , the Black Mist, the World Runes, the Darkin slash whatever the Aspects are up to, and Mordekaiser ( which I think is the future that Swian saw when he got his new arm) ,..... are we missing *anyone* else?
@jerrikko3379
@jerrikko3379 5 жыл бұрын
Ladygothii12 you forgot enemy team Yasuo
@rggrill3588
@rggrill3588 5 жыл бұрын
The salt flood
@DragonMJE
@DragonMJE 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda Xerath too; maybe.
@Ladygothii12
@Ladygothii12 5 жыл бұрын
@@DragonMJE hmm... I think the Xerath threat is more contained to Tayliah, Sivir and Shurima, although you could fold that under "what ever the aspects and the darkin are up to"
@Ladygothii12
@Ladygothii12 5 жыл бұрын
@@jerrikko3379 🤒
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 5 жыл бұрын
"Gee League of Legends, how come Riot lets you have three existential threats?"
@aaroncunningham8307
@aaroncunningham8307 3 жыл бұрын
LeBlanc: "Man, this Mordekaiser guy is pretty tough, I don't think we could beat him if he came back. I sure hope some grieving piss-baby monarch doesn't decide to PUNCH A BIG F%$&-OFF HOLE INTO THE AFTERLIFE!!!!"
@andrewluka5452
@andrewluka5452 5 жыл бұрын
I think your point about having multiple world class threats is good, because it can lessen the impact of which ever happens second, but I disagree that the world runes are a threat in of themselves. I think that Ryze will have to end up using them to stop one of the threats and this will further his own character, as he's spent thousands of years stopping them from ever being used
@LethaeusSol
@LethaeusSol 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me wish battle boss went to mordekaiser even more
@saerthol1457
@saerthol1457 5 жыл бұрын
17:45 old Mordekaiser had no iconic features? What about his Pizzafeet then, huh? You can show these to any League Player and they instantly recognize who that is (kappa)
@datzfatz2368
@datzfatz2368 5 жыл бұрын
iconic doesnt equal good^^ but i agree, pizza feet master was really memorable^^
@Shadowsdeity
@Shadowsdeity 5 жыл бұрын
Also, his old helmet was shaped like the 'm' in Sodom's logo. Me, being a metalhead, thought that was a really cool reference
@thinkublu
@thinkublu 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite attack animation for Mordekaiser is his crit animation, mostly because it's used on towers as well - he uses his mace as a battering ram and it's soooo nice Also, there's something soooo pure about you laughing about the squash and stretch on Mordekaiser
@spad4
@spad4 5 жыл бұрын
10:10 mordekaiser vs the void is going to be a vs event in the future I swear And 12:17 Morde will pursue the world runes and use them against the void/runeterra which what I think is the actual biggest threat
@joshprice4855
@joshprice4855 4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely love the fantasy he invokes, the image of the indomitable conqueror really intrigues me.
@galio2012
@galio2012 5 жыл бұрын
The audio is strange to me this video. Looking forwarded to the rest if this video being only 2 minutes in though ;) Morde vs Aatrox vs Void vs Demigods vs Zoe vs future edgy champion
@gussug2498
@gussug2498 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, viego aged well then
@froirissting66
@froirissting66 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget xerath
@eduardoserpa1682
@eduardoserpa1682 5 жыл бұрын
There is still Aatrox, the literal World-Ender. I hope he teams up with Mordekaiser for his freedom at some point. On the other hand, he could go against Mordekaiser because the very existence of the Death Realm means Aatrox can never be free, even if he dies. That could be a good step towards making an unconventional nemesis for Mord.
@VladDascaliuc
@VladDascaliuc 5 жыл бұрын
Aatrox vs Mordekaiser would be probably the most epic fight we could ever hope for.
@young_cheeseburger
@young_cheeseburger 5 жыл бұрын
I smell the next versus event! That would be so dope
@NiteshadeX2
@NiteshadeX2 5 жыл бұрын
Aatrox wants death to escape the suffocating prison that is his sword. If Mordekaisers death realm grants him the 'freedom' he craves, Aatrox is so fatalistic he would probably take it.
@Jan_Iedema
@Jan_Iedema 4 жыл бұрын
Vlad Dascaliuc wouldn’t have to be since in the death realm morde ended up in spirits would fade into nothingness. So if aatrox wanted he could just...fade?
@anonym0sender
@anonym0sender 5 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Mordekaiser's arc doesn't involve him wanting to take back Noxus because otherwise he could find a pretty good foil in Kled. The idea of two murderous hams fighting over Noxian territory has a lot of comedic potential, perhaps even allowing for a version of Skeletor Mordekaiser.
@nikladamond937
@nikladamond937 7 ай бұрын
This is still one of the best outros you've ever made :D
@kevabWTF
@kevabWTF 5 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand how do you haven't more viewers, very good content dude!
@R_AM02
@R_AM02 2 жыл бұрын
I would love it if all 3 final bosses arise at the exact same time at full power and just fight for each other for the thrown. every army in LoL lore just just gets up to fight these things, all 3 come up at once, they realize they're screwed but instead of attacking the army they just raise hell against each other while everyone else sneaks away
@altermann1991
@altermann1991 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair I feel like Mordekaiser and the world runes would fit pretty well together, so making Mordekaiser chase the world runes for power would make sense and could merge these 2 storylines,while also giving Morde an antagonist in the form of Ryze.
@artamis1146
@artamis1146 5 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing this Sky 😂 I lost it when you voiced him yourself. Like I was crying.
@yermil890
@yermil890 Жыл бұрын
12:16 honestly i feel like the runes and the void are the scariest, scarier than the darkin and morde. Cuz both are something rune terra cant rlly control or keep intact unless you have a shit load of luck
@muticancan123
@muticancan123 5 жыл бұрын
You had way too much fun with his Q animation xD Edit: Scratch that you had way too much fun with the outro.
@lelescarlet7184
@lelescarlet7184 3 жыл бұрын
27:47 is when I start laughing hysterically (although 28:20 is the part where I’m laughing so hard it hurts!). Like … T B, your laugh is contagious. And then the silly voice you do saying “I’m Mordekaiser, fear me!” 🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like for real, that part of the video is just too funny. Like I’m genuinely crying from laughing so hard.
@hazykeyboard8223
@hazykeyboard8223 3 жыл бұрын
same 🤣
@mastercalabaster9824
@mastercalabaster9824 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Mordekaiser fighting against The Void
@goldlight1322
@goldlight1322 5 жыл бұрын
Characters/Forces with Final Boss potential: The Void, the Shadow Isles, Mordekaiser, Xerath, the World Runes, maybe the Darkin.
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
1. Relating the Watchers to the Void, and 2. Zyra.
@gilsai4990
@gilsai4990 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosaez4885 nah, zyra is just a really agressive house plant
@diegosaez4885
@diegosaez4885 5 жыл бұрын
@@gilsai4990 since she got retconned recently, not anymore.
@goldlight1322
@goldlight1322 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosaez4885 She's a lot stronger now, but I wouldn't put her on the same threat level as the others. She's currently spreading westward across Shurima, and I feel like she's going to hit a wall the moment she runs into the Ascended or Icathia. Zyra's a threat that I feel is a lot more easily dealt with in comparison to the others.
@gilsai4990
@gilsai4990 5 жыл бұрын
@@goldlight1322 exacly
@ChesSkelington
@ChesSkelington 5 жыл бұрын
Morde-Karen: "I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MANAGER!!!"
@scarletpsychowolf3578
@scarletpsychowolf3578 4 жыл бұрын
*finds out there's no manager* "Fine...I'll be the manager"
@odukomaster5473
@odukomaster5473 3 жыл бұрын
*Ults the manager.* *7 seconds later* Manager: Give him the entire store, NOW.
@Snooki977
@Snooki977 5 жыл бұрын
I believe we can have multiple storylines with every existential threats : like the void can become a plot point in demacia, and end up touching noxian champions who are deep into a storyline driven toward mordekaiser !
@aronboy9822
@aronboy9822 5 жыл бұрын
28:19 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I CANT STOP LAUGHING! oh GOD. THAT WAS GOOD
@magicgirlwithvodka7434
@magicgirlwithvodka7434 5 жыл бұрын
Ehehhejeuehe
@ElJorro
@ElJorro 4 жыл бұрын
28:15 I love that part! "Boing!"
@theruder9
@theruder9 3 жыл бұрын
For Mordekaiser and the Void stepping on eachother's toes... I think that was always going to happen with the Shadow Isles and the Void, they are both just... the origin of some form of evil which makes them similar inherently. I like to think that the main difference is, the Void feels more of a part of 'nature' to me, and so it doesn't matter if everyone teams up to take it on, it'll always be there and it'll always be a problem, and over the course of hundreds or thousands of years it 'may' destroy the world but if kept in check it's just a constant drain on resources. The Shadow Isles on the other hand, are man made, and if Yorick were to succeed, or if Mordekaiser were finished off, that threat is gone. Honestly having both of them as different threats, kinda reminds me of Fire Emblem Awakening in a way. Like it takes some random girl coming back and screaming at everybody, "HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD PAY SOME ATTENTION TO THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, THAT IS HAPPENING, RIGHT NOW" in the midst of this relatively inconsequential war between nations. So in that context, the Void seems more like the serious problem that everyone is ignoring, (Which I guess make Kai'sa Lucina?) and Mordekaiser is the full-of-himself warlord claiming territory while being ignorant to the fact that his actions are just weakening the rest of the worlds capacity to defend itself from an evil that even he himself doesn't want to spread. The Void bringing oblivion and nothingness would certainly put a hamper on his goal to create a new afterlife afterall. I don't think the Runes really step on the toes of any of the other 'world ending threats', because, as a story telling device, they're just "objects", or "Weapons." Brand might be the game's equivalent to Thanos, but he doesn't have strict ideologies or an all encompassing goal, he's barely even... sentient, I think. Like, sure he used to be a human and he recognizes things from his life and past, but his one singular 'goal' after taking the first rune, is to collect all the other runes, and I honestly think that if they ever had the story go in the direction where Brand managed to get the runes, all he would end up doing is killing himself, because it just seems like so little of what made Brand 'alive' is still there after he got the first Rune. That might just be me making too many assumptions, but I think the real fear with Brand shouldn't be, 'what if he gets the runes', it should be 'what if the runes are no longer protected.' If he succeeds and kills Ryze, or gathers them all in one place, what happens if some creature from the Void steps in and takes them, or what if he drums up enough a fuss for Mordekaiser to become interested in the Runes. The world Runes themselves to me seem like they could only serve as a tool for one of League's greater villains, not directly the cause of any world ending event on their own.
@Delaan142
@Delaan142 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Skyen. Keep the work up!
@danisan99
@danisan99 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids Skyen. Can you please do a What's the deal with Warwick? I loved the rework they did on him, and maybe you would have some interesting things to say :)
@nyanbrox5418
@nyanbrox5418 Жыл бұрын
I also like morde's new kit, for someone so egotistical that they built their own realm where they are king, it feels fitting that their ult takes you there so he can show off his neat death realm, and then he gains the power of the person he traps there until they respawn to escape like, they are dead, and they are in a tiny loser center where they have to pay rent to this guy, I love it
@masterdef2209
@masterdef2209 Жыл бұрын
id love if mordekaiser came back and he saw the void was attacking and he helped fend it off
@monkeyorful
@monkeyorful 5 жыл бұрын
"Its kind of hard to determine one iconic element of old Mordekaiser" What about the Pizza feets? Those were iconic af to be honest
@Bruh-el9js
@Bruh-el9js 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, to me it looks like mordekaiser is the final boss for most characters and nations while the void is a final boss for more advanced characters like the celestials and sol, but I could easily see mordekaiser waiting for the void to weaken runeterra so then he can just come and whipe everything
@De_monte_summo
@De_monte_summo 5 жыл бұрын
18:00 His pizza feet were his iconic element
@Horde1Blades
@Horde1Blades 5 жыл бұрын
You sound so upbeat in this video. I love it
@butters9887
@butters9887 3 жыл бұрын
Mordekaiser doesn’t want to end the world he wants everyone to die and the world to continue in the afterlife where he can make his own world. Weak souls are used for materials where as strong souls get to live on. “I am all the stands between eternity and oblivion.” And “I sunder the natural cycle so that all will be persevered.” His goal isn’t the destruction of the world it’s the domination of the world.
@dinodude722
@dinodude722 5 жыл бұрын
so, lets look over the major conflicts going on and the powerful threats to runeterra in the league of legends universe, roughly ordered from biggest to smallest, shall we? -so over here is the void. another dimension of cosmic horror that wants to unmake reality and cause everything to cease to exist. creating horrific monsters and dark followers. -here are the worldrunes, super magic artifacts that created the planet and have the power to crack planets individually, let alone together. -also mordekaiser is planning his return, an evil necromatic overlord hoping to enslave everyone's souls to his will once he returns to the land of the living -then there is the darkin slowly being released from their prisons, and aatrox wanting to slay all the demi-gods and deific beings in hopes to destroy himself and the world with him -you've got another eldritch horror in the north in the form of volibear. -there is the cursed island of the dead slowly creeping its black mist towards the mainlands. -powerful but mostly unknown deity in the sea called nagakabouros who has its own power and cult. -there are demons and evil spirits walking around killing people and doing who knows what. -noxus is going to war against seemingly everyone. -there's also the ongoing wars in the northern tribes of the freljord. -there is nearly a civil war in demacia due to their treatment of magic users. -there is mad scientists doing who knows what in zaun, there's urgot and his followers causing riots. -there is some ninja clans fighting. -there is an island of pirates arguing with eachother constantly. -and then there is also viegar the tiny master of evil. who's doing his best. league of legends has always had a lot of different conflicts, interpersonal conflicts between specific characters aside, there have always been the multiple big threats. and mordekaiser has just been added into that list. now he IS near the top of the threat level list, but hes just another new side of the universe and i do like him a lot. this setting has already got a lot going on. reading that list from bottom to top, and seeing how the various problems escalate. it feels almost like someone made a level 1 to 20 D&D campaign but the DM kinda just figured it out as then went along instead of building up 1 singular big threat that the plucky heroes need to work up to defeating. where first you have a little comedic threat that's not too serious but still dangerous enough to cause problems, then you get some interpersonal conflicts between various political groups, then there's some open warfare, then you start dealing with some cults to mysterious dark entities more with localized supernatural horror. then you have your ancient sealed evil in a can start waking up where these crazy demon like monsters sealed in weaponry are popping up in places and being bad news. but then the party gets too strong for those to be a threat, so you break out get the big evil overlord bent on taking over the world with his own armies of the dead, and there are also these powerful magic artifacts with god like power that could do serious damage if in the wrong hands. and after all is said and done, the party of heroes is essentially lvl20 demigod-like people with immense strength, but you still need a big scary final FINAL F I N A L enemy for them to fight, so you break open another dimension and throw the reality consuming unfeeling terrifying cosmic horror at them. now i'm not saying riot isn't planning out some big plotlines with a singular big bad for the world to unite against.... but really, i don't think they are. there is not 1 single final boss in this story to beat and bring peace to everything. there are lots of varied conflicts all over the place, some big some small. some are earth shattering conflicts between demigods and ancient horrors, while others are just that group A doesn't like group B, or this guy over here is causing some trouble in our town and needs to be stopped.
@etres_
@etres_ 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute Mordekaiser - lich king Void - burning legion Hmmmmmm
@wizardswine
@wizardswine 2 жыл бұрын
It would be pretty out of nowhere but I always thought Mordekaiser being "the dude who wants all the world runes" would have been a good fit for him. It means you can do some Ruined King game esque teamup in the future, where Ryze has to find some sort of team to stop him.
@FISH-jt9hi
@FISH-jt9hi 3 жыл бұрын
Well actually old morde does have a pretty iconic feature... His pizza feet
@SgtIronbeak
@SgtIronbeak 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Noxus Prime sits upon the Immortal Bastion... it's definitely something for Noxus first to worry about.
@jackzx13
@jackzx13 5 жыл бұрын
The direct translation with his name that you spoke of would be more like "murder emperor", I believe. If you take it in the same order it's said.
@tokuyou3811
@tokuyou3811 3 жыл бұрын
mordekaiser and the other world ending beings/entities could work if they were all staggered. like, i think of how in comics there are quite a few potential world ending threats, but they get away with it because they become large events over time. so you can have smaller villains and larger than life villains exist at the same time. riot's also been lifting a lot of superhero comics' ideas with redesigning and retconning lore of their characters for years. they even ship out the new stories like comics have in small bite size pieces leading up to large scale events. but as youve said, it makes a little less sense when they're all happening at the same time.
@zephyrscofield1008
@zephyrscofield1008 2 жыл бұрын
I love his design because its just my favourite kinda villain. This big bad, bigger than life Monster which i think that comes across in his ult where after he gets a kill he expands and becomes bigger and scarier and with the confidence and absolute swagger in his step he is just awsome and I love it (also im not 2 years late, you were 2 years early)
@ImVeryHongry
@ImVeryHongry 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get a video on Zac? I feel like his creation, personality and possible theory on how he might have been formed could be discussed in a bit of detail. I want to be able to understand Zac just a little more.
@jacquelynthompson5346
@jacquelynthompson5346 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about Syndra in Ionia and the Darkin are like sorta worl-ending. Now we just need some stuff for Demacia (well they’re whole value system is at risk, so ehhhhh), Piltover, Zaun, Ixtal, & The Serpent Isles.
@lipov7083
@lipov7083 2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that runes are the ultimate MacGuffin, not an existential threat.
@toreole5831
@toreole5831 5 жыл бұрын
They should make an mmorpg already where morde is the final boss of a huge raid inside the immortal bastion that he took over from noxus again!!!!!!!!!!
@Nomnomnomnomie
@Nomnomnomnomie 9 ай бұрын
Morde animations are amazing and the q is the best and most satisfying part of playing him.
@BartixShieldsmen
@BartixShieldsmen 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Riot have about 3 or 4 different scapegoats currently if they ever need to end support for the game with one final battle, like they made SURE they had options god damn. And whatever they could do would probably be incredibly badass and cool
@sintaspeaks
@sintaspeaks 5 жыл бұрын
i think for me its hard to keep track of which catastrophic disaster is which when there's like, as you said, five or whatever of them happening at the same time.
@Leonix13
@Leonix13 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of 40k with the Necrons vs Tyranids vs Chaos.
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 40k actually manages that in a fairly clever way by making "there are multiple apocalypse-level threats closing in at all times, which is why everything is awful and fucked up forever" part of the central premise of the entire franchise. LoL... not so much.
@Leonix13
@Leonix13 5 жыл бұрын
@@TBSkyen A more comparable analogy would probably be Warhammer 30k when everything wasn't gone to shit (yet) and those other threats just starting to emerge.
@grievous143
@grievous143 5 жыл бұрын
@@Leonix13 I actually get more of Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar vibes here, with the Void beeing Chaos and Mordekaiser Nagash, the Leader/God of the Undead. There are very similar
@Leonix13
@Leonix13 5 жыл бұрын
@@grievous143 Yeah that's fair, I'm not as versed in WHF as 40k.
@doomdoot6731
@doomdoot6731 5 жыл бұрын
I'd suspect that Mordekaiser might end up teaming up with the Void, because - as far as I could gather from his lore - he couldn't give less of a damn about the world of the living. He just wants to reshape the transitory limbo he was stuck in, into the Halls of the Bones and have a feast with the souls of the fallen as was promised to him in the ancient legends that he likely followed. Whether Runeterra lives or dies in the process couldn't matter less to him to that end. I'd also think that the World Runes end up being the weapon to seal out the Void and break Mordekaiser's armor to the point where it can no longer move around. That is of course assuming that Riot ever does anything to advance the plot regarding those two, and doesn't just play fine with just establishing the world as "look at how many things live at the same time in this universe; isn't this great?" Mordekaiser's lore also now has me longing for a proper Riot Games RPG, where you play an "average" Joe that somehow ends up in this immense conflict between all these factions, equipped only with "insert RPG superpower and stats" to help him out, a la TES4 Oblivion.
@mrboowok3816
@mrboowok3816 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s years later but One way they could take the story is Mordekaiser contesting the shadow isles and taking over the reign of the ruined king
@SylviaMoonbeam1127
@SylviaMoonbeam1127 5 жыл бұрын
Might I propose “a Frodo” to Mordekaiser’s “Sauran”: Poppy
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
If Mordekaiser was more focused on the No is/Demacia region, that
@samuelstrunk5525
@samuelstrunk5525 4 жыл бұрын
Im way too late to answer your questions, but I think the void is their looooong play. And with the ruined king game it seems like they building up to use morde as big villain of their second (?) phase of storytelling.
@aifakinkilyu
@aifakinkilyu 5 жыл бұрын
You're saying that Morde needs this sort of nemesis, but what about the Black Rose and LeBlanc herself?
@randommordekaisermain1214
@randommordekaisermain1214 5 жыл бұрын
Tb also other than Mordekaiser the Void and World Runes im pretty sure Aurelion is not too happy as well with what targon did to him
@plantthug9253
@plantthug9253 5 жыл бұрын
Aatrox too
@jacobnorris8256
@jacobnorris8256 5 жыл бұрын
I mean he honestly seems pretty chill about it. Seems less "HOW DARE THOSE INSOLENT FOOLS CHAIN ME, I WILL DESTROY THEM AND THEIR WORLD ALONGSIDE IT WHEN I GET OUT" and more "wow those targon guys are such unbearable pricks".
@Utopia39747
@Utopia39747 5 жыл бұрын
The watchers breakers thorough, everyone is defeated, only hope is summoning mord and give him World runes and destroy them. Aha u just got a league of legend movie 2
@Dronarmada
@Dronarmada 3 жыл бұрын
now that I think of it a year+ later the best solution would be to go beyond just runeterra, so morde isn't a global threat anymore, just a runeterra one. And void would still be a global cosmic horror that wants to unmake all of creation. Tbh the darkin-alien canon which riot once used would be very good for that. In my vision - runeterra'd have internal problems, a world class threat like morde, then something "solar system wide" - alien civ of darkin and then the global-global threat to everything and everyone - void. What do you think Skyen?
@thesuperthingymabob8209
@thesuperthingymabob8209 5 жыл бұрын
FWIW I'm subscribed to both you and necrit but I actually watch your videos and usually ignore necrit's. Keep making good stuff!
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 5 жыл бұрын
You should watch Necrit's stuff too, he makes good videos :)
@gexianhen
@gexianhen 5 жыл бұрын
@T B Skyen a while ago u analysed the desing of the apex legend champs, and now there are afew neew games out there... in the E3 a new game called Bleding Edge appear and they only have a few character but i feel the desing are pretty good ( the females specially) there is a lot of stereotipes transplanted into the future setting of creative ways, like a voodo zoombie but is actually a robot snake moving the zombie body around, or this little witch lady who is floating around in a cauldron who is really a drone, and is witch hat is a drione too.. pretty funny - they have a page up now ( bleedig edge )
@leagueplays2100
@leagueplays2100 2 жыл бұрын
Morde vs Void matchup lets go
@lucasrichardson3434
@lucasrichardson3434 2 жыл бұрын
This is quickly gonna turn into multiple fuck the earth/just fuck everything problems and my God there's gonna be one hell of a war and it's gonna be FUN to watch it unfold
@VileKaizer
@VileKaizer 5 жыл бұрын
I like to see it as setting up various "arcs" within the overall story of Runeterra's history. Perhaps Mordekaiser's return acts as a precursor to the war against the Void? He is a rather minor threat in comparison, after all.
@Jan_Iedema
@Jan_Iedema 5 жыл бұрын
Is he though?
@VileKaizer
@VileKaizer 5 жыл бұрын
​@@Jan_Iedema "Kill everyone on the planet" vs "Send all of existence back to nothingness" Kind of makes you wonder how they're even supposed to combat something of that scale if Mordekaiser can prove a challenge.
@gunjinyi2098
@gunjinyi2098 3 жыл бұрын
18:53 got me chuckling
@ShieldLad01
@ShieldLad01 5 жыл бұрын
27:45 his front foot did a 360 LoL
@zennim125
@zennim125 3 жыл бұрын
all these world ending threats become a lot more useful when you are working on a mmo expect a mordekaiser xpac, where he is stopped from being resurrected and we follow him into the realm of the dead to beat him for goo xpac for the void vacation xpac for the shadow isles (with a lot of side content involving pirates) and so on
@camimi7782
@camimi7782 2 жыл бұрын
My take on this, is that Mordekaiser is basically a Final Boss that'll never stop coming back until he's been turned to nothingness in the after life. And seeing how the guy is just too eager to die not without putting up a fight, he's gonna be a recurring villain, even if the Void HAS to be the Main villain for Runeterra because of its nature.
@billdrew7229
@billdrew7229 5 жыл бұрын
12:31 Mordekaiser takes over runeterra and then uses the runes to end the Void
@billdrew7229
@billdrew7229 5 жыл бұрын
MORDEKAISER IS THANOS
@curtneymoore
@curtneymoore 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget Azir hes a born conquereor and can potentially try to take over as well
@PinoySamurai008
@PinoySamurai008 5 жыл бұрын
curtney moore I’m not sure about that, there’s not many cities to conquer after 1000years. Shurima is under the threat of the void, focusing in expanding your empire is foolish, also I believe Shurima has good connections with Bilgewater, Noxus and Piltover.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
Runeterra's multitude of existential threats and lesser (but potentially world-shaking) megalomaniacs, along with its myriad heroes, all interacting in small sets which rarely overlap reminds me of a D&D world. Those need tons of potential adventure hooks to fit all groups, and plenty of potential hero origin points for the PCs to originate from. I'm not sure League of Legends needs the same...
@tonymartin1913
@tonymartin1913 Жыл бұрын
I would currently think of mord right now as a vicktor von doom where as long as mord will get what he wants which he will given enough time, he will wait and stop anyone getting in the way
@RedesignatedClockwork
@RedesignatedClockwork 5 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly kind of curious if they could spin LeBlanc as being his contrasting point in some way, or at least as someone for him to be particularly antagonistic toward, but I don't know how much that could really be achieved. I _do_ feel they could easily add in a new character at some point to exist as his counterpoint, but then he wouldn't have unique interactions with them. So I dunno.
@grimm5233
@grimm5233 10 ай бұрын
Id have mordekaiser come in as a final hero, when everyone else is beat and the void is about to consume everything, he rides in with his massive undead army playing powerwolf and helping everyone stand off. However its not my story, not my place
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