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@danielsayre33852 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@huldu2 жыл бұрын
Are they going to hire me for one of these fantasy careers? I doubt it. Maybe should have given me that when I was in school or earlier where it could have made a change. Things were just different 20+ years ago, in all the wrong ways. Hopefully our kids can do better but what hope is there when we couldn't or our parents. It's like a vicious circle of humanity at its worst.
@LuchadorMasque2 жыл бұрын
Malcom gladwell wants his cut
@Kadath_Gaming2 жыл бұрын
Antonio Zamora's research on the Carolina Bay's origins as the remains of oblique secondary impact craters caused by ice projectiles on ballistic trajectories from a Saginaw Bay impact origin is very compelling, so the impact origin hypothesis is still firmly ON THE TABLE.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@Kadath_Gaming That hypothesis suggests that ice had enough energy to be ejected from earths orbit and it somehow reverse course to create oval shaped pools even though the impact trajectory was nearly 90 degrees, or: that it was only ejected at very low trajectory for thousands of km (requiring supersonic speeds which would disintegrate even stone objects from bow shock). 90% of ejecta is found within five diameters of the impact crater. Therefore, the crater (required to explain Carolina bays formed by ejecta) should be hundreds of times larger than the one responsible for the K-PG extinction, which obviously did not occur. Thermokarst lake fields on the other hand, are found in many places worldwide sharing the same features or in other stages of evolution, providing ample evidence for verification. Wind flowing from cold low pressure areas on high glaciers and mountain ranges to lower lying areas of warm rising high pressure explain the orientation of thermokarst lakes in Nebraska the East Coast and many other locations around the globe.
@beretperson2 жыл бұрын
"from about the size of an American football field to about 12 kms across" That is peak chaotic energy right there, half the sentence in metric, the other half in American, that way everyone is confused!
@ImpendingJoker2 жыл бұрын
As a non-idiot, I understood both measurements.
@ronjones-69772 жыл бұрын
I never understood using"American football field." Just say "football field." It's damn near the same size in Europe or America. It's just dumb.
@lasarousi2 жыл бұрын
@@ronjones-6977 Americans get agitated when they're reminded that standards exist and not everything is American sized.
@andersandersen62952 жыл бұрын
I think some of them are the size of a olympic swimming pool.
@RStabbin2 жыл бұрын
Not confusing at all, most people should be familiar with metric as it's vastly superior to imperial.
@garrettsharpe14642 жыл бұрын
Wow, you guys are covering the bay lakes! My grandparents live on Lake Waccamaw, the biggest of the bay lakes in North Carolina which has unique chemistry thanks to a limestone bluff that keeps the water basic and promotes animal and plant diversity (~40 fish species compared to maybe half a dozen in the more acidic typical bay lakes), some unique to the lake. One of the acidic bay lakes Lake Phelps has old Native American canoes and artifacts dating back to 11,000 years ago and younger preserved at its bottom, and scientists put the canoes back because they couldn't preserve the canoes as well as the lake did. And a really intact whale skull from the Pleistocene dated to around 3 million years old was dug up from the bottom of Lake Waccamaw as well.
@75OldsNinetyEight2 жыл бұрын
My sister got a nasty ear infection years ago after swimming at Lake Waccamaw. Rinse those amoebas bacteria etc out with saline water kiddos!
@75OldsNinetyEight2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, where my sister now lives in eastern NC about 25 mi east of the Jacksonville NC area, lots of Carolina Bay swamps/lakes around
@laurachapin2042 жыл бұрын
I love learning new things!
@nisnber57602 жыл бұрын
It's not every day that SciShow introduces me to a whole new phenomenon which I've never heard about before. Especially about a feature so widely distributed where I live. Long series of wiki rabbit holes sure to follow.
@littlejourneyseverywhere2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet you could look and see if there's a citizen scientist project going on that focuses on them since your local to them and join it! :-) I love the different citizen scientist programs that I've been a part of. Right now I'm doing one that is a NASA run project that is working to train their AI to better recognize and classify Coral :-) it's fascinating and fun!
@hamwamson75802 жыл бұрын
Nicker, who asked?
@Mrbfgray2 жыл бұрын
Check in with Antonio Zamora, he makes the most compelling case for secondary impacts of suborbital ice 'bergs', ejecta from an impact, far more convincing than this vid including alignment with a certain location on what would have been the Lorintide Ice sheet, they are NOT "generally aligned in the same direction", the alinement is different for different regions, only locally they are generally aligned. Here they mention one orientation in one region but there's far more to it.
@vinniefray72992 жыл бұрын
look up younger dryas impact theory . ice from Laurentide ice sheet ejected by a asteroid that hit the great lakes about 14 000 years ago. there is evidence of a crater on lake Huron ive been there . might have been what wiped out mega fauna and clean slated the west coast. Randall Carlson has observed the erosion patterns ancient inland seas had ice dams break and created places like grand coulee and Missoula plains.
@wallaroo12952 жыл бұрын
Antonio Zamora is probably one of the foremost experts on the Carolina Bays, including many, many videos showing the ballistic trajectories of the objects back to their origins - but... I won't spoil anymore for you. Here is a link to his channel. kzfaq.infoabout
@primesspct22 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you. I especially appreciate you saying "this hypothesis." when referring to the schools of thought on the formation of Carolina bays. So many are quick to state things like this as fact.
@RaccoonWheaties2 жыл бұрын
@@drstone3418 quartz?
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
IKR. So many people claiming meteor impact as fact lol.
@robupsidedown11 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363haha,so many people claiming wind can make perfect ellipses (then make them overlap)!
@gravitonthongs136311 ай бұрын
@@robupsidedown …because science before irrational fantasy.
@AustinKoleCarlisle4 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 Kaczorowski's 1977 experiment could only create a football shape, not a true perfectly mathematical ellipse.
@kpetro16752 жыл бұрын
If you want a really interesting and well supported explanation of what the bays are, check out the catastrophe and cartography video on carolina bays by Peter Zelinka, or the videos made by Antonio Zamora.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Interesting, maybe. Well supported, cough cough! 2:02
@Mowenatl Жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 You should read the recent paper published in Sage by James Lawrence Powell titled 'Premature rejection in science: The case of the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis.' It thoroughly examines all of the evidence surrounding the YDI and puts to bed any doubt about the formation of Carolina Bays. They were formed by ice chunks that were thrown at ballistic trajectories by the YDI around the great lakes.
@gravitonthongs1363 Жыл бұрын
@@Mowenatl I’ve read that crack pot pseudoscience. Maybe read some basic geology texts. Start with ejecta radius to find out you would need a 1000km wide crater to explain the bays as impact ejecta.
@Mowenatl Жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 I partially address this in my other comment but it seems you're making the assumption that the impact occurred on solid ground and not an ice sheet that was up to 2 miles thick which was also sitting on top of the great lakes! This is actually discussed in quite a bit of detail by Zamora. It seems it's you who needs to do some reading :p
@couerl Жыл бұрын
@@Mowenatl Correct, the expanding super steam created instantly upon impact beneath the 2 kilometer thick ice sheet acted like an aircraft carriers steam catapult and launched huge chunks of ice into 1500km trajectories and resulted in a saturation bombardment event from which nothing could escape. The megafauna and Clovis/Solutrean people all died in minutes.
@Megadextrious2 жыл бұрын
Floridian here! I have 3 little tiny lakes like this in my neighborhood! Well, at least there *were* 3, soon to be only 1… They keep getting drained, and built over and it’s really depressing. About a mile from my home used to be this really big lot where hundreds of birds used to hang out. And now it’s a stupid bank…. Recently there has been construction on this huge plot of land nearby , like maybe 30 meters away, that was just wilderness, and for the first few weeks there were groups of vultures hanging out on what used to be their home. They don’t know why this is happening or where to go… In my yard now are bunnies, opossums, birds, storks, etc. and although I love seeing all this wildlife, it’s so upsetting that greedy humans are constantly destroying what precious little that’s left…..
@rivitraven2 жыл бұрын
In Florida the lakes start to actually be karst formations otherwise known as collapse cover sinkholes. Florida remained quite warm even during the last glacial maximum.
@fuxan2 жыл бұрын
This is why I dont have children nor want any...displacement of nature...nor do I have nor want a 2nd home nor do I want to buy from a greedy developer that does not integrate nature into their plans. It is gut wrenching isnt it to see the destruction.
@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Жыл бұрын
great. thx
@briandawson8701 Жыл бұрын
Nature will take it back , when this age collapses , along with sinkholes , banks and egos of ALL POLITICIANS Stay safe Floridian person DJBDOGG EDINBURGH SCOTLAND 😎 SCOTLAND 😎
@davidsiffer43742 жыл бұрын
The thought that it was once cold here in eastern Carolina is funny, it feels like a tropical island out here
@micahphilson2 жыл бұрын
I moved to SC in the military just last year, and... well, I saw snow I guess. One morning, there were snowflakes falling. But yeah, to liken this boiling swampland to Alaska is probably going to be the thought that gets me through this summer!
@eroraf86372 жыл бұрын
Were you there in December of ‘02? Charlotte got a crazy ice storm that year. We lost power for a week and basically camped out in front of the gas fireplace. There was a solid inch of clear ice on every tree branch and power line, it was crazy!
@swirvinbirds19712 ай бұрын
Only need 2 years of no thaw before you have permafrost.
@jlondon14412 жыл бұрын
Home to Venus Fly traps here in SC. These areas are neat to explore and some of the most beautiful places to camp.
@jeaniewilliams74382 жыл бұрын
We have them here in nc too there's a place we camp at that has them and also pitcher plants
@fuxan2 жыл бұрын
Yep...Lewis Ocean Bay Heritage Preserve
@chrism378411 ай бұрын
Another hypothesis is a large meteorite struck the ice somewhere in the great lakes during last ice age and sent thousands of pieces of ice really fast and crash landed forming the pockmarks. One of the explanations is all the ovals point in the same direction.
@gravitonthongs136311 ай бұрын
That requires the largest impact in billions of years
@dalesmth110 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 And yet it would have impacted a rather thick ice sheet. The radial pattern of the bays converging to a single area is a bit difficult to dismiss.
@gravitonthongs136310 ай бұрын
@@dalesmth1 the orientation of the bays are explained by prevailing winds originating from the centre of the Laurentide Ice Sheet. See “Ejecta Blanket Law” to understand that basic physics require a 1000km diameter crater to explain proximal ejecta distance of 2500km. A 3km ice sheet is negligible
@gravitonthongs13636 ай бұрын
@@dalesmth1a few kilometres of ice is far from rather thick when discussing the largest impacts on earth. The Chicxulub impact alone was a +50km impactor that penetrated to over 100km into the earth. Any ice sheet is negligible in those numbers. Orientation is from centre of land mass to the ocean. Consider your fantasy due to vague correlation to a single area as dismissed.
@shawnsg23 күн бұрын
They also don't actually all point in the same direction or at least towards this supposed impact location.
@masterimbecile2 жыл бұрын
Scientists tried to account for every single one of the Carolina bays, but they quickly find themselves… … swamped.
@joelaut26052 жыл бұрын
See your self out
@sarahstrong71742 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha.
@gtbkts2 жыл бұрын
Badumdum tishhh
@JakeTechReviews2 жыл бұрын
lol
@sydneymomma112 жыл бұрын
lol! thx for the giggle. 💖
@Master_Therion2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that scientists can figure out what created the holes. It's also great that SciShow can tell us the... hole story.
@andywomack34142 жыл бұрын
Have they really figured them out? I'd call it a pretty good guess, nothing more.
@ChemEDan2 жыл бұрын
Hank is also featured in multiple videos regarding butts. Coincidence? I think not!
@chevychase31032 жыл бұрын
The h o l e truth and nothing but the truth!
@AaronOfMpls2 жыл бұрын
@@ChemEDan Well it doesn't seem like he was pulling this one out of his And I like that SciShow gives sources too -- some creators can't be @$$ed to
@Bassotronics2 жыл бұрын
@@chevychase3103 I love donuts. 🍩
@EricLS2 жыл бұрын
Me, an Alaskan: those look like freeze thaw lansca- oh. Well there you go.
@doggodoggo30002 жыл бұрын
The thing about quartz tripped me out. I appreciate you talking about Carolina bays, it's a hard concept to wrap your mind around it attracts alot of crazy.
@emk71322 жыл бұрын
Carolina resident here with no clue ‘til now that these were even a thing! Thanks as always for great content!!
@dryzalizer2 жыл бұрын
1:20 Writers got some directions wrong, the elliptical trends would be NW/SE and the sand concentrations appear to be W and S based on the circled portions. Later when talking about winds, NW is used and is correct.
@calebmatthews20262 жыл бұрын
Also…. Opossums… the o is silent lol
@B2WM2 жыл бұрын
@@calebmatthews2026 *in best substitute teacher voice * "Opssum?" But I've heard it both ways.
@TheNickCrank Жыл бұрын
probably has something to do with how wrong the wind hypothesis is.
@ronsandahl274Ай бұрын
@@TheNickCrank It has more to do with the author relating wrong info on the part that he doesn't agree with, and correct info on the part that he does agree with. It is a common thread in this video.
@gravitonthongs136326 күн бұрын
@@TheNickCrank wind exists. Impactors that don’t leave evidence do not exist.
@frankied.roosevelt62322 жыл бұрын
That's neat and all, but as a South Jersey Piney, I can tell you you're wrong.. at least about the South Jersey ones. Everyone knows that the were made by the Jersey Devil to fly down and chill out at on spooky nights. Duh. (Just kidding. But the Jersey Devil lore and his blue hole in the Pinelands is a good one)
@chevychase31032 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you're not Shadow banned by KZfaq!
@PronatorTendon2 жыл бұрын
@@chevychase3103 You probably should be
@frankied.roosevelt62322 жыл бұрын
@@chevychase3103 why?
@micahphilson2 жыл бұрын
1:02 1 US football field to 12 km across. I really love that specific range of measurement.
@henrycrum301811 ай бұрын
The idea that the wind created these is astounding. The wind, in my experience changes direction continuously.
@shawnsg23 күн бұрын
Are you being sarcastic? You've really never heard any of these phrases before: prevailing winds, trade winds, dominant winds, etc.?
@henrycrum301823 күн бұрын
@@shawnsg Yes. And they don’t create elipitical craters either.
@shawnsg21 күн бұрын
@@henrycrum3018 I'm only talking specifically about your comment claiming winds constantly change directions which you presumably know isn't true since you're aware of those terms.
@Nova_Avali2 жыл бұрын
omg iv lived around these things all my life hell. I live right on the edge of one, and have always wondered what they are, I never found anyone who can give a solid answer on them, this makes so much sense
@worldbridger92 жыл бұрын
no it doesn't and, as stated, it's only another hypothesis
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@worldbridger9 it requires a basic education in science to comprehend.
@emma50682 жыл бұрын
I figured it had to do with the Ice Age but it's incredible to have a much better idea of the precise mechanics that actually formed these things.
@lk.2049 Жыл бұрын
but his explanation makes no sense.
@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Жыл бұрын
how? he said nothing basically
@josephsimpson8165 Жыл бұрын
Look up Antonio Zamora for the real reason these formed.
@gravitonthongs136311 ай бұрын
@@josephsimpson8165 The bays require the largest impact in billions of years to be explained as ejecta marks. No reputable geologist agrees with Zamora’s obvious pseudoscience.
@swirvinbirds19712 ай бұрын
@@josephsimpson8165why do you people always try to point people to Zamora? He's not an expert and is a computer science guy that looks at Google Earth selling the whole Younger Dryas Ancient Apocalypse nonsense. Randall Carlson, Antonio Zamora, Graham Hancock... Birds of a feather.
@spikesmth2 жыл бұрын
Recently saw another video on this topic. I think it made a more compelling argument for an ice age impact event. The hypothesis was an impact around the midwest/great lakes, while they were buried under a couple miles of glacier, ejected huge amounts of ice debris which created the bays when they returned to the surface. Then the bays were basically craters mad from ice impacts, which explains the elongated shape and shallowness. The main evidence was tracing the diameters of hundreds of the bays and they all appeared to converge on the hypothetical midwest impact site. In addition, there is a smaller set of bay-type land forms in Kasas or Nebraska or something which ALSO converge on that same hypothetical impact site. If the thermokarst hypothesis were correct, they'd need to explain the great plains bays which it seems would require a dominant NE to SW wind which I have a hard time believing.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Bay dates do not correspond to single event. Sand base only. Ice melts at impact that size and distance travelled by ejecta. No impact crater. Etc. It’s a fun fantasy. Don’t be so gullible
@steventoney47302 жыл бұрын
Pay no attention to this graviton guy. He has nothing intellectual to add and loves negativity, plus he refuses to understand the hypothesis.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@steventoney4730 your intellectual prowess is inspirational
@markcrombie52802 жыл бұрын
I've traipsed through them and the poquosons ( another oddity in NC and VA)for quite a few decades and this makes the most sense. Falling objects ALWAYS make circular craters despite speed and angle of attack. Some of the meanest and orneryist plants bugs and critters thrive in and and around them.
@anyascelticcreations2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine so. The worst bites I've ever gotten were when I waded into a wetland to collect cattail pollen. I never saw or felt what bit me. But when I came out, I had crazy, purple/blue welts on my legs that itched like mad. And they lasted for weeks. Like nothing else I've ever had. Thank goodness I only waded knee deep! And I've never set a toe in a wetland again.
@wallaroo12952 жыл бұрын
Antonio Zamora is probably one of the foremost experts on the Carolina Bays, including many, many videos showing the ballistic trajectories of the objects back to their origins - but... I won't spoil anymore for you. Here is a link to his channel. kzfaq.infoabout
@Heavensrun2 жыл бұрын
It's not so much that falling objects always make circular craters despite the speed and angle of impact, as by the time an object has fallen into Earth's gravity well to make impact it's vertical velocity will always far outpace whatever horizontal velocity it had before. Craters from asteroids are therefore always going to come from an object that is hitting nearly vertically. There are actually a few (very few) examples of elliptical craters on the moon that likely came from objects with VERY shallow impact angles, but that doesn't happen very often, because most of the time if an object falls to the surface of a body it will be angled in by gravity to hit at an angle pretty close to 90 degrees.
@wrenisprobablyb0red2 жыл бұрын
I was confused for a second! Poquoson is the name of the town/city and Pocosin is the name of the swamps. The name of the city does come from the name of the swamps, though.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@wallaroo1295 expert at pseudoscientific doomsday events supported by insufficient evidence.
@adamlaski91282 жыл бұрын
What kind of demon decided to use an American football field AND kilometers as a size reference
@TemporalandReaty2 жыл бұрын
Huh, think this is the first time I've got here this early. Time to see about these swamps.
@randallkelley36002 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the Nebraska rainwater basins. Same shape, different orientation.
@uropygid2 жыл бұрын
How great to learn something new for my 70'th birthday.
@creech4442 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Eastern NC and probably one of the more famous of these formations is White Lake. It was called White Lake because all the white sand. It was a big regional vacation spot with the white sand beaches and there was an amusement park of sorts, with skee ball and a boardwalk. It was traditionally sort of a low key vacation home area, it was big enough and always calm so the water skiing was great. It was large enough where you could just sort of see the other side. Today I think it's even more developed. Growing up we heard the meteor story mostly, but interesting to see that the science has continued to progress on that.
@puresanctus32412 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an episode about the bubbling tides in the bay of fundy, I visited them and was told they have an ‘unknown’ cause, and this was one of the few places this phenomenon was seen worldwide.
@snowballeffect78122 жыл бұрын
I first discovered similar features in the arctic on google earth, as well. See the northern coast of Alaska and eastern Russia. The landscape looks almost alien and the lakes are all oriented in similar directions. I believe the current theory is that they form due to water pooling, freezing and thawing creating the lakes. I suppose the uniform orientation is due to wind direction preferentially freezing the water in one axis over others.
@montewright1112 жыл бұрын
Those are thermoKarsts.
@LOOGamala Жыл бұрын
That freeze thaw, wind hypothesis, does not allow for the exact elliptical shape of the Carolina bays, nor the clear over laps, because the swamp should just get bigger A single event as described by Antony Zamora is a much better theory which can be mathematically described and tested. As well as physically tested with scale models.
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
coordinates? searching pics of thermokarst, i haven't found anything nearly as regular, elliptical, and co-oriented as the bays...
@snowballeffect7812 Жыл бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 70*23'N, 155*14'W They're hard to miss. Go straight west and you'll find them on Russia's northern coast eventually, as well.
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
@@snowballeffect7812 wow! thx that is spectacular. that one field of pools is like 150 miles across. exploring....
@drewgraham2 жыл бұрын
Saw the thumbnail and instantly knew what this was, very glad to see it being discussed. - SC resident
@martenandersen7062 жыл бұрын
I have been watching the channel for a while now and in a previous episode your team talked about how when you get an organ transplant you need to take medication to prevent your body from rejecting the organ. As I recall that was because the organ has different DNA than the rest of your body. I am an identical twin and I am curious if I got a Organ from my brother would I need to take those same medications? Well anyways thank you for a great show as always.
@Zalied2 жыл бұрын
Google says almost never rejected so your gkkd. Though I would assume rejection can happen from non DNA reasons or from weird DNA quirks cus twins are weird.
@craigmooring20912 жыл бұрын
"They also have an elliptical shape that generally points from the northeast to the southeast."? The major axis has a 90° deflection? Hank got his directions mixed up. The subtitles get it right: northwest to southeast. They also fix the other error; the sand is on the south and WEST sides.
@michaelcstachiw2 жыл бұрын
Giant meteorites hitting the Earth are referred to as Michael Bays, not Carolina Bays.
@fuxan2 жыл бұрын
Noooo...please dont go shooting off such ideas into my already impressionable brain...ow... now my brain has little michael bays in it. I'll think of this next time I walk into one of these bays looking at pitcher plants.
@jeaniewilliams74382 жыл бұрын
I live in nc and see these everyday, I did not know that this was a phenomenon. How fascinating!!!
@CJT3X2 жыл бұрын
Quartz dating is a new one for me! So neat!
@peggymiller30452 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Who says that you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Also, thank you for adding captions for your deaf and hard of hearing viewers!
@skenzyme8111 ай бұрын
One was recently detected in East Texas.
@DXDragon38 Жыл бұрын
As someone from the Carolinas, I never knew that this was a thing
@Earthgazer2 жыл бұрын
Finally SciShow discusses Carolina bays!
@marcuserroneous11 ай бұрын
You totally missed what I believe is the most likely explanation, which is a comet impacting the ice sheets of southern Canada around 13000 yrs ago. Ejecta from this impact would come in the form of icebergs hurled miles into the sky. As ice falling from great height doesn't make craters in rock, the bays are only formed in soft soils. This explains the shape of the bays, and the built up sand lips on one side. One thing the geological explanation fails to address is that the bays are mainly oriented toward a common point, with the sandy lips being opposite that direction, and prevailing winds do not align with the bay orientation. After impact, ice chunks would melt away, leaving behind a shallow oval pond. I encourage you to revisit this fascinating topic and learn about the impact theory in greater detail
@gravitonthongs136311 ай бұрын
That requires the largest impact in billions of years unfortunately
@marcuserroneous11 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 where did you get that information? Read up about the Holocene impact working group. I've been following this for years and more evidence comes to light supporting this idea from the scientific community all the time. It doesn't require a huge impactor, several smaller impactors is sufficient
@gravitonthongs136310 ай бұрын
This idea is hypothesised by Antonio Zamora only. It is not discussed in the academic scientific community because it is obvious pseudoscience. See Ejecta Blanket Law to realise a 1000km wide crater is required in order to explain an ejecta distance of 2500km from impact centre.
@mitchellmavin74109 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363where are you getting this 2500km distance from, the extend of the carolina bays is around only 1500km from the great lakes. You keep commenting this on every recent comment regarding Zamorra theory.
@gravitonthongs13639 ай бұрын
@@mitchellmavin7410 from the edge of the lakes? They extend past Carolina you know. Obviously more than 1500, but call it 1500 if you want. Where is the minimum 600km wide crater to explain a 1500km ejecta blanket? Introducing semantics to distract from the fact that your hypothesis is beyond reason?
@pakde80022 жыл бұрын
I'm from Eastern North Carolina and very familiar with Carolina Bays. I noticed that similar features are visible in the far northern regions of Russia and apparently Alaska as I just learned. I always assumed they were formed by meteorites but the prevailing theory makes sense as the land is very sandy. In fact the area where I was born is known as the Sand Hills region beginning at the base of the Piedmont Fall Zone, which is also a very interesting area geologically.
@LOOGamala Жыл бұрын
The secondary impact of ice boulders is a far more compelling and testable theory. See the videos of Anthony Zamora, on youtube covering the Carolina Bays
@gravitonthongs136311 ай бұрын
@@LOOGamala The bays require the largest impact in billions of years to be explained as ejecta marks. No reputable geologist agrees with Zamora’s obvious pseudoscience.
@empty_rivers2 жыл бұрын
“Rivers, we know rivers” Aww, how sweet 🥰
@quickskits24282 жыл бұрын
Them starting at NJ also makes a lot of sense with this theory, since New England was essentially wiped clean by a glacier that swept through the region after the last ice age, so any marks from freezing and refreezing would have disappeared
@KJONeil2 жыл бұрын
In New England we have kettle-hole ponds that formed when the glaciers retreated leaving behind ice pockets that melted. Not to mention the fact that Cape Cod only exists because of glaciers. I never thought about the last ice age having that sort of impact south of here though. That's kinda neat.
@joshmaresch8112 жыл бұрын
Question for you guys: How much water would it take to raise the entire ocean by 1 Planck length? There's a saying "one raindrop raises the sea" and it got me thinking... By how much?
@gothboschincarnate39312 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.... maybe your overthinking this? 🤔
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
There are more plank lengths across the diameter of an atom them atoms across the diameter of the observable universe. I estimate one drop should correspond to a minimum one plank length of global ocean height rise.
@blaintaylor92182 жыл бұрын
every raindrop that falls on the sea originally came from the sea. even the water that enters the sea from rivers came from the sea as evaporation into air then rain on land then rivers then back to the seas. its a net zero. even the great ice masses came from the sea. its nice to have the big picture!
@joshmaresch8112 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 thanks! That definitely gives some perspective
@joshmaresch8112 жыл бұрын
@@gothboschincarnate3931 most likely. DON'T JUDGE ME!
@gildedpeahen8762 жыл бұрын
Right away I thought of the millions of polka dot lake that cover the great northern permafrost expanse of Canada. I enjoy perusing Google Earth. Sounds like they could be the same type of feature!
@SwimingPolarbear2 жыл бұрын
it is the same process :)
@gildedpeahen8762 жыл бұрын
@@SwimingPolarbear yup that's what meant
@garybelling3494 Жыл бұрын
Where are any other stages of these that are exactly like the carolina bays? How are they formed into rocky structures... Do they all align to the same direction
@tumitoons74022 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm back in Applied Geomorphology class this is insane🙆🏽♀️😁😁
@Yezpahr6 ай бұрын
Could they not have the same creation story as the Kettle Lakes? It is mentioned in the video that it was during the last ice age, so it doesn't seem farfetched to me. It's possible the glaciers were breaking up there and instead of melting directly in one year, it got surrounded by dirt from the glaciers, leaving lakes behind when it finally melted. The oval shapes are then caused by the motion of the meltwater, explaining the similar directions of the oval shapes. Myron Cook has a great explanation of the creation of the Kettle Lakes, it sounds like it could apply here, but I'm no expert.
@quikdrawcollins18612 жыл бұрын
Didn't mention the ones in Nebraska and other pats of the west that point in a different orientation. Which, judging by the orientation of each bay, suggests they are caused by debris splash of ice and what not from an impact with a glacier in Michigan. Just another possibility to consider.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Wind tends to travel from the centre of land mass towards ocean
@quikdrawcollins18612 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 actually the wind along the east coast tends to flow from the north following the shore line or up from the south and in the absence of prevailing winds the sun on the land heats the air causing it to become less dense and rise thus pulling in cooler air from over the ocean so the wind direction is from sea to shore.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@quikdrawcollins1861 coastal currents are obviously not the prevailing element. Onshore wind due to rising air is an effect limited close to the ocean also. Inland over a large landmass the air is expanding from heat more than rising, with cool air convection occurring on mountain ranges, resulting in directional flow towards ocean (when not affected by global trade currents). If it were just from thermal rise and fall then there would be equal wind in the opposite direction at night.
@MrNiceGuyMEGA08 Жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 The trade wind theory is definitely not the correct explanation for these Carolina bays. You can take a closer look in Bladen County more specifically Suggs Mill pond and Little Singletary Lake that show overlapping edges. The trade wind theory would mean that these lakes and bays would become one. Only the secondary impact theory explains overlapping edges, the lack of meteor bits found in the bays, the elliptical geometry of the Carolina bays, among other things.
@gravitonthongs1363 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNiceGuyMEGA08 overlapping is what we observe at all similar thermokarst lake fields. How did you go explaining disappearance of remains from the supposed largest impact in billions of years?
@htdetonator18472 жыл бұрын
1:28 doesn’t he mean “Northwest to Southeast”
@woodfur002 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too, he seems to mean northwest to southeast
@anorthosite2 жыл бұрын
To those suggesting that the Bays are kettle holes left when continental ice sheets were melting: Pleistocene continental glaciation occurred only far to the NORTH of (most of) the Bay areas, covering New England, most of NY, and parts of NJ, PA and the Upper Midwest states. Kettle holes formed north of the glacial terminus, as the continental ice sheets receded toward Canada. For example, Minneapolis-Saint Paul MN area is riddled with kettle lakes. The thermokarst processes that presently occur in the near-arctic regions are different. But at the glacial maxima, the coastal plain regions of the Mid-Atlantic region had a much colder climate than today. Think: Boreal forest and Taiga. I've also read speculation (among the Younger Dryas impact proponents) that the hypothesized extraterrestrial impact "pushed down" the rock strata that form the Michigan Basin (the "bulls-eye). In Fact: In the sequence of successive sedimentary rock units that fill the Basin (ranging from early Paleozoic to Mesozoic age), each sedimentary formation THICKENS toward the center of the Basin. This indicates that the underlying crystalline basement (the deeper crust) was subsiding, more or less continuously, while each sedimentary unit was being deposited. Finally - given the limited mechanical strength of even glacial ice - it seems implausible (on a large physical scale) that a point impact could hurl city-block-sized chunks of glacial ice - INTACT - for hundreds of miles. The ice would be pulverized/vaporized at the impact site, even before any velocity/atmospheric effect.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Finally a voice of reason in the crowd of fantasy.
@TheNickCrank Жыл бұрын
so whats your theory on why the bays and rainwater basins all point back to one singular spot?
@anorthosite Жыл бұрын
@@TheNickCrank I don't need to have a specific explanation. But I lean toward the bifocal seasonal prevailing winds hypothesis for the shapes of the (very shallow) "bays". The radial nature might just be an artifact of the regional topography.
@TheNickCrank Жыл бұрын
@@anorthosite so if it was wind then why do about 15% of the formations overlap with each other? also the radial nature of each formation literally point back to one spot including ones found out west within the same radius. we are talking a couple thousand miles at one very specific width for all of these formations in a multitude of soil types and topography features.
@TheClintonio2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is fascinating, I'd never heard of this before.
@SeventhSamurai722 жыл бұрын
My vote is for a comet impact on the Laurentide ice sheet and these are the resulting ice chunks falling back to earth at the younger dryas event.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Votes from the under-qualified don’t really count in this one.
@harrymaciolek96292 жыл бұрын
The asteroid theory seem to explain it best, and the similar depressions in Nebraska.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Bay dates do not correspond to single event. Sand base only. Ice melts at impact that size and distance travelled by ejecta. No impact crater. Etc. It’s a fun fantasy. Don’t be so gullible
@RandyGrover10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this overview. I can't wait to share my theory with the world.
@haroldtiffany50788 ай бұрын
I agree with Zamora and Zelinka. They talk about how a meteorite struck the ice sheath which sent ice into ballistic arcs that crashed all over the US. There are bays in Nebraska, the East Coast, Ohio, etc. Most of the trajectories drawn from the orientations of the Bays point to the origin in the Upper Mid West and suggest multiple impacts on the ice sheets.
@gravitonthongs13638 ай бұрын
Formation by ejecta requires the largest impact in billions of years, which obviously didn’t happen.
@AustinKoleCarlisle4 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 look up the article "how 2 billion craters on Mars were formed by one asteroid". some of them traveled up to 2000 km from the impact site.
@gravitonthongs13632 ай бұрын
@@AustinKoleCarlisle mars has less gravity and little atmosphere. Ejecta blanket law is derived from impacts on earth. Corinto crater is 14km wide, so the impactor travelled at least 7 deep. On earth that would result in a proximal ejecta distribution radius of (5x14) 70km.
@andywomack34142 жыл бұрын
There are KZfaq presentations by Antonio Zamora that propose an explanation not mentioned here. Big chunks of ice, launched by a meteorite impacting the ice sheet somewhere near Michigan. Not saying that makes as much sense than the one offered in this video.
@CraftAero2 жыл бұрын
Actually, measuring the angles of the depressions and seeing that they congregate to a single point (of impact) makes far more sense than anything discussed here.
@leechild46552 жыл бұрын
Thats the theory that makes the most sense to me. To have lakes form ovals shapes the wind would have to be constant and only from one direction. Thats impossible.
@rickfensch2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I lean towards an impact near the Great Lakes and those Carolina bays are from massive ice chucks that were ejected from the impact.
@cryptolithus2 жыл бұрын
@@leechild4655 Large ice sheets produce strong, consistent winds as air cooled above the ice becomes denser and flows off towards the edges, much like what you see when you open your freezer. As the last ice age ended, the retreating ice sheets exposed barren land that these katabatic winds swept across, picking up the fine sediments and creating huge deposits we today call loess. So these strong consistent winds are very possible, and similar landforms created by them are seen in northern Alaska and Siberia as mentioned in the video.
@NotKelloggsCornflakes2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a conspiracy theory. Actually the Clovis people did it.
@zccardenasm88352 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy when Hank speaks, reminds me of my child days 😌
@demetrialowther7272 жыл бұрын
They're basically the same thing as the thousands of 'lagoons' that dot the arid areas of Australia (and the midlands of Tasmania). At least in the Australian case, aridity has a big part to play in their formation, actually rather similar to the climatic conditions that promote the formation of badlands, aka, nutrient-poor, easily eroded soils, generally too dry to support decent plant cover that's occasionally exposed to heavy rain allowing erosive forces to shape them before they dry out again, preventing vegetation from stabilising them. Generally in Australian cases, these form most often atop hills and higher land where there's less surrounding catchment to fill them and most sit in their own little endorheic basins atop these higher land areas. This is important because there needs to be enough catchment and heavy, sporadic rain cycles to fill them and allow the wind/wave action to shape them, but also a small enough surrounding catchment that they do not have regular inflows (which would cause them to spill and drain them, effectively destroying the formation). I noticed in the LiDAR scans that were shown of the Carolina Bays, that they too sit atop higher land areas with little to no surrounding catchment that could potentially erode outlets for them. In Tasmania where I'm from, good examples would be lagoon complexes like the Woodstock Lagoons (just west of Longford atop an aluvial ridge), the Ellinthorpe Lagoons west of Campbell Town (in a dry rainshadow valley) and Lake Tiberias near Parattah, the largest of these features on the island. Geological maps tend to refer to these little lagoons with sandy dunes on their eastern shores as "aeolian formations" as wind it the primary factor in their shaping. Worth noting too that most of these will become somewhat saline as, being endorheic, salts eroded from the surrounding land can never leave to the ocean and builds up over millennia. On the mainland, especially in the SW of Western Australia, they can often be seen in long chains, marking the routes of ancient rivers. These however had very different starting points, but shaped in the same way. Effectively, ancient rainfall was higher and broad meandering rivers filled the vast shallow valley floors with aluvium. As the climate dried, the rivers stopped flowing and the wind began to move these loose sands into scattered dunes that choked the original river channels. When sporadic deluges would hit the region, the water would be dammed up by the sand and cause ponds to form. These ponds would slowly be shaped by wind and waves into strings of little elliptical lakes. Just enough rainfall to fill them at times, never enough to reform the river and drain them.
@zzyzx22972 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the morphology is somewhat vague and we need a different explanation to explain the same looking thing
@worldbridger92 жыл бұрын
elliptical, like perfect ellipses? hmmm...
@princesscandlewax51702 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thank you.
@robertdragoff69092 жыл бұрын
My first reaction was meteors too, but the video shows how the ancient environment back then shaped the landscape….
@CusterFlux2 жыл бұрын
There's been a number of papers written on this unusually interesting subject - Antonio Zamora does some great recaps of the alternate, Glacial Impact hypothesis here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNaIjJue2pjMmIk.html A key point is if a medium sized meteor or comet hit a 2 mile thick glacier with a glancing blow, there'd be no crater left today after the glacier melted - but there might be secondary impacts where flying chunks of ice would hit any soft ground, and these would radiate out from the impact site - which the orientation of the Carolina Bays and the Nebraska Rainwater Basins seem to do nearly perfectly - sure it's not proof, but boy, it's a chin scratcher
@garrettsharpe14642 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite theory for how they formed. Ice bullets leaving no trace.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
By far the most inept hypothesis since flat earth
@steventoney47302 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 you really have nothing of value to add, do you?
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@steventoney4730 reason
@steventoney47302 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 well now you've got me curious. I love geology, and I'm having trouble poking holes in Carlson's/Zamora's theories. What exactly are the flaws? This elliptical shape of the bays is easily explained by their theories, as are the location and distribution. The overlapping is not explained well enough by scishow's explanation.
@noneofyourbusiness41332 жыл бұрын
92 years ago?! My grandpa was alive back then!
@davidmuse85482 жыл бұрын
Great theory that is incorrect. The bays will be weathered away in another 20k years, and could have not been formed more than 30k years ago. They also align with the Nebraska "rainwater basins" pointing at the Great Lakes region, as do these. Research the Younger Dryas impact, the deliberate burial of Gobekli Tepi, and other things that occurred +/- 18 to 24k years ago. Most reputable researchers are slowly coming around and seeing this to be the best fit for the available data. Y'all should do a segment on the scoured scablands out West.
@silasmiller44172 жыл бұрын
+1 brother. Well said. Frozen basins and a prevailing wind do not create such uniform oliptacle basins, especially ones that all point to a convergent point in Minnesota
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Bay dates do not correspond to single event. Sand base only. Ice melts at impact that size and distance travelled by ejecta. No impact crater. Etc. It’s a fun fantasy. Don’t be so gullible
@steventoney47302 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 dude just give up and come back when you actually understand what Randall Carlson is proposing.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@steventoney4730 he sells pseudoscience
@phonzy2 жыл бұрын
Hey SciShow Team, Great Video! Can you please provide a source for the The likely origin of the Carolina bays being chilly lakes similar to the thermokarst lakes in Alaska
@Nemmy252 жыл бұрын
Sources are in the video description
@phonzy2 жыл бұрын
@@Nemmy25 I couldn’t find the one relating to my question, It’s not in the description box
@devekut22 жыл бұрын
Sooo....my hippie-dippy aunt was right when she said the sun would "cleanse her quartz crystals" 😅
@TheTerranInformed2 жыл бұрын
Really thought provoking!!!
@TheHydrogen42 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree.
@theladysamantha1932 жыл бұрын
This doesn't add up to what I have heard about them. The further north you go, the more west-east-ish they get. The further south you go, the more north-south-ish they get. Plus, this doesn't account for the bays in the midwest that face the opposite direction, running north-east to south-west rather than north-west to south-east like the ones on the coast are. The one researcher I listened to recons they were formed by a comet hitting the glacial ice around what is now the Great Lakes, launching large chunks of ice out where they landed, creating angled craters that, due to the soft, sandy soil, just filled back in due to liquifaction. And if you mark these on a map of the US, they make and arc which includes the ones in the midwest... a giant circle of them all pointing towards the direction the ice came from. But I do love you guys mentioned these because they are SO fascinating to me especially as a North Carolinian. My grandparents live in the middle of the state, far from the coast and I always thought it was odd they live off of a road called "Bayside". Look on google maps and there is a nice clean one just behind their house!!
@spanqueluv9er2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly correct- they are relics of a cosmic bombardment. It sucks having to watch Hank participate in the dogma that is obscuring the truth about how our planet came out of the last ice age. The evidence is clear, obvious and all around.
@rickfensch2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you.
@steventoney47302 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think this hypothesis was deliberately avoided. Think about what they'd be opening doors for in saying that this came from a single event that they all obviously point to. This would be a 180 in scientific dogma. A lot of people would have to admit that they're wrong, and a few people would be told that they're right. We can't have that. At least we now know scishow is bought without a doubt.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Bay dates do not correspond to single event. Sand base only. Ice melts at impact that size and distance travelled by ejecta. No impact crater. Etc. It’s a fun fantasy. Don’t be so gullible
@jsweevil2 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 there wouldnt be an impact crater if it hit a 2 mile thick piece of ice. The ice would melt and re-enter as water. This is why there is no meteoric debris visible in the bays. There is a study being done at ECSU on one of yhe Carolina Bays showing the presence of nanodiamonds pointing to an extraterrestrial impact. All bays have a trajectory pointing to the great lake region. There are plenty of scientific studies that point to an impact on the Laurentide ice sheet and possibly being the cause of the Younger Dryas and the disappearance of the megafauna and the Clovis culture. There is nothing gullible about it.
@azilbean2 жыл бұрын
I live in GA, and vacation in FL, SC, NC, VA and I've never heard of them! Thanks for sharing!
@FortuitousWench2 жыл бұрын
I went to a school for a while called Carolina Bays Academy… and I literally grew up in a Carolina Bay. And I never knew this. Super cool!
@pennhill545911 ай бұрын
I think I will go with Gram Hancock's theory of how these formed not yours
@gravitonthongs13637 ай бұрын
*hypothesis. Theory requires significant evidence, not fantasy.
@pennhill54597 ай бұрын
I'll stand by Gram your answer convinced me he is right@@gravitonthongs1363
@paulgrosse76312 жыл бұрын
The are in more than just the eastern states - they extend into Nebraska and can be found in north America, south of where the ice sheet was 12,500 years ago on unconsolidated land. Unfortunately, the luminescence method has real problems with this type of structure because of the way that it was formed. This hypothesis also doesn't explain why the bays in Nebraska point the other way - in reality, they point towards the great lakes where, during the ice age, there was still ice. A chunk of space stuff (probably rock but weighing as much as it is calculated to have done, it would have had the same sort of effect whether it had been made from iron, stone or ice) hit the ice there (where it was several kilometres thick) and then vaporised like almost all of them do but the resulting explosion from all of that energy, projected many tonnes of ice in variously sized chunks into the air and above, from where they rained down onto unconsolidated ground that had just bee liquefied due to the seismic waves from the original impact, where they then produced conical cavities which then all but filled in due to the ground being fluid at that instant. A space rock hitting some ice is a lot simpler than the explanation given in this video and Occam's Razor suggests that this is therefore more likely. Suggested viewing is: kzfaq.info/sun/PLmd4S3n7PlE2H5FYYASaLd-eM5DBE33Rz Antonio Zamora who has written a peer-reviewed paper on this very subject; and, regarding the evidence for there being an impact at all, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdyJnad90ZPLgKc.html Dr Martin Sweatman, analysis of the many papers surrounding this issue, including the erroneous conclusion that are repeated in the video above.
@worldbridger92 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you! the evidence is quite compelling and tells a much more exciting story... dates may be off, impact sites and number of objects etc... if only scientists would just agree to ask the right questions.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Vaporised the meteorite, but not the ice surrounding? Has enough energy to throw ice hundreds of km, but not melt it? Lol
@worldbridger92 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 if it were a comet, maybe yes. Ice shatters, so yes... we should look for those telltale signs specifically! it would be madness not to based on all the evidence. Once and if we find nothing, then maybe consider aeolian processes with proof. There is no proof of this still.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@worldbridger9 thousands of thermokarst lake fields in all stages of development currently found across the globe …the supporting evidence is overwhelming in comparison to your unrealistic doomsday fantasy.
@pencilpauli94422 жыл бұрын
Never heard of these formations before. Thank you
@victorharness8293 Жыл бұрын
"from the southeast to the northeast"?- explication requested
@victorharness8293 Жыл бұрын
And, do any of the sands from the rims show signs of ventification?
@laurachapin2042 жыл бұрын
Just did a quick search of Carolina bays on YT and literally everything I found talked about the impact theory. Thermo-karst makes more sense to me.
@josepardo70972 жыл бұрын
not hardly. show me a place where the wind consistently blows the same direction. also explain how they ALL made the oval shapes, and no other shapes or longer canals. nothing but ovals. nah, wind is much too fickle.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@josepardo7097 most places on earth have a prevailing wind direction. The bays at Carolina are orientated towards the eastern mountain range favouring the northerly trade winds from low pressure in the colder north. There are many variations in shapes.and ellipse lengths at Carolina bays and other similar sites. More information on thermokarst lake field formation can be found in the corresponding publication.
@testbenchdude2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SciShow for covering this. Carolina Bays are fascinating to me, and once upon a time, took me down the rabbit hole of bolide impact ejecta theories to actually researching it during grad school and finding much of what you have stated here. There is actually evidence of the bays in Delaware , NJ, and Long Island, as well as parts of Nebraska, and there have been some fascinating studies linking them in age to various marine isotope stages. Some of the more interesting ones to me (and the most damning to any ejecta theories) are the kind where you can find them overlapping each other and extant river systems. The latest I'd read had them being formed anywhere from 150kyo to 50kyo, but it's been a few years so hopefully your sources are more current. Super cool to finally see the real science (if only briefly) behind one of the more alluring YDIH (Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis) pseudoscience swirling around.
@worldbridger92 жыл бұрын
yea, its a hard sell: quartz has memory vs. +500 thousand perfectly shaped ellipses which are conic sections and oblique impacts make cones... hmm! takes some criteria, or maybe its just hard to think we live in a firing range of cosmic bullets?
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@worldbridger9 Sand base only Not impact shaped Dates not corresponding to single event Ice not melting in impact event How are you so gullible?
@Durpanny2 жыл бұрын
Damn, i want the cold dry environment back please. I've had enough of these mosquito hellholes
@Itsjustme-Justme2 жыл бұрын
Ever been on summer hollidays in northern regions like Alaska, Canada oder Skandinavia? This is a bigger mosquite hell than any tropical swamp. Their only advantage compared to tropical swamps is, they have at least 6 mosquito-free months per year.
@shawnsg23 күн бұрын
People are really fanatical about this ice shotgun hypothesis. I get it. It's exciting and way more fun to think about. But reality is usually less exciting. That's subjective because it's interesting either way but you get what I'm saying.
@freelance_commie2 жыл бұрын
Mmmm chili lake (homer gargling)
@michaelkeller59272 жыл бұрын
The chili isn't 5 alarm though. It's only 2, 2 and a half tops. I just wanted to look big in front of my boys.
@Roarmeister22 жыл бұрын
The wind action forming the sand edges is totally inconsistent with the fact the similar elliptical bays are also found in NEBRASKA. The theory is that a comet hit the earth around Saginaw Bay in the Great Lakes region where there was 1 mile thick ice sheet. The impact broke the ice sheet and then the remains were displaced in a butterfly pattern creating the Carolina Bays and the Nebraska bay features. When the ellipses directions are measured they all align and point to a central impact area in the Great Lakes. The wind action forming the sand bays over thousands of years is a very flawed and old theory but because it is unformitst and not catastrophic in nature, people have been very reluctant to look into this relatively new theory.
@michaelbeelby19952 жыл бұрын
Ice chunks throw into the air would have A: Insufficient mass and B: Insufficient speed to create Impact craters that would be deep enough to withstand 100's of thousands of years of erosion. A simple way to prove your theory would be to locate the core of the impact. Since it hit ice it would most likely be relatively intact. Furthermore these 'bays' would be found anywhere there wasn't ice at the time and they would show up in a circular pattern. They don't. It is odd you would point out what you describe as 'flawed' theories while you claim an extremely flawed theory as the culprit. I'd love to see the math you could provide that shows chunks of ice (that would have been vaporized upon impact) could so severely deform the existing terrain over 1000 miles away to the point where erosion wouldn't erase them over the course of 100 thousand years. As an aside....If the prevailing winds in Nebraska were the same as they were in coastal Georgia then what, exactly would be 'inconsistent'. You seem very committed to an idea that simply isn't plausible. Why is that?
@Roarmeister22 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbeelby1995 It isn't "my" theory. It is being proposed by others. If you find issues or questions with this, please review Antonio Zamora's and other's research. 1. Where did you "compute" the mass and speed required for the impact craters? You got a super computer or two at your disposal? 2. Where did you get 100,000s years of erosion from obviously relatively recent geological features? The age of the bays has been proposed as anywhere from 93,000 years as in the video to 12,900 years as proposed by Zamora. 3. Impact site was ON the glacial ice sheet as the Great Lakes did not exist at the time and the ice thickness would have been approx. 1 mile thick. The axis of the ellipses from Carolina and Nebraska line up to point to a location known as Saginaw Bay. 4. The bays wouldn't necessarily show up in other areas because of soil differences like the ROCK of Pennsylvania vs the sand of the Carolinas. 5. Your superficial questions point to a lack of in-depth reasoning processes and you seem to take an alternative theory as a personal insult. Science is NOT personal, it just is. You've condemned and closed your mind faster than a mouse trap without even the tiniest bit of research. Hint: People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
@michaelbeelby19952 жыл бұрын
@@Roarmeister2 As a proponent of this theory it is on you to supply the proof. Explain how an impact on ice would result in enough material being ejected into the atmosphere to cause large impact craters 1000 miles away. Explain how this material was ejected and not merely vaporized due to it being a 'mile thick Ice sheet. Explain why these impact craters are not found uniformly. ( Even Pennsylvania has top soil and isn't exclusively bedrock on the surface) Explain why only some of these 'bays' are in close alignment.....but not all.....Many aren't even close. I have reviewed the research.....That is why I am asking you the very questions I am. It is easy to back a theory for which, conveniently, there is zero physical evidence. Furthermore. If the ice sheets were 1 mile thick as far south as Saginaw then it stands to reason that permafrost extended much further south than that. Since we can see similar structures in the existing melting and freezing layers of permafrost in Alaska (where no comet smashed the ground and caused them) It is much more likely that they are the results of natural processes. Unless of course you can definitively answer any of the questions I posed and/or find some evidence of the core from this supposed impact near Saginaw. It shouldn't be hard....It had a mile of ice to cushion and absorb it's impact....Should be a nice big chunk sitting right on top of the ground somewhere. For example the impactor that caused the crater in Arizona was only roughly 160 ft across, smashed into bedrock vaporized itself, made a crater about 1000 ft deep initially and sprayed debris no where near 1000 miles. How large would this impactor have had to be, how did it excavate enough material high enough, to travel far enough, to survive reentering and create massive craters still visible today and how did it do so while leaving zero evidence of it's occurrence anywhere else? The simplest solution to a problem is usually the correct one......You have a lot of questions to answer. I'd suggest you don't 'close your mind' simply because you WANT something to be true....Especially when nearly all the evidence doesn't support your claim.
@Roarmeister22 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbeelby1995 Ah, now you are starting to ask REAL questions. Good, that means you aren't a total loss. I don't have the answers; I could give you conjecture on someone else's theory but I won't since I haven't done any computations around that. Only an needy ass hole would insist that I provide definite convincing proof on someone else's theories on a KZfaq post instead of a research paper. I don't have a "lot of questions to answer" ...to you. You have reviewed the research - ha! Have you even done a 2 minute search on the theory other than pestering me like a spoiled brat? Since you are too lazy to actually do a 10 second google - I shall provide a couple of links for you to actually read and watch (if you dare to). cintos.org/SaginawManifold/Saginaw_Bay/ www.impact-structures.com/2020/10/the-neglected-carolina-bays/ kzfaq.info Anyway, one of the arguments from people is in your question - where is the proof of the impact? Where is the rock remains of the impact? The obvious answer is in the proposed theory itself - that since the comet/asteroid impacted on the ice sheet then there would have been nothing left of the original comet vs. an impact on land. And perhaps not even a crater. Although when Zamora said it points to the Saginaw Bay, there appears to be a very large part depression (about 36km in dia) that MAY be the impact site. But if it landed on the ice sheet then we have no comparable impact crater - and the Arizona crater isn't even close to the same kind of event. Obviously, if it is then any remains of the comet would be at the bottom of the lake. The theory is that the ice sheet took the majority of the energy and splattered ice. I too was skeptical that ice chunks the size of the Empire State building could have travelled that far but then again, it would be dependant on the size/mass/speed of the object. I can't even begin to calculate what kind of force that would be. But somebody has. I don't have a closed mind to other ideas, but this theory seems to fit the facts a whole lot better than the preposterous wind blowing creation theory. There is zero physical evidence of sustained wind of any sort that could have carved and shaped these types of OVERLAPPING elliptical bays anywhere on earth. Even an Cat 5 hurricane doesn't leave anywhere close to a terrestrial change for even 1 of these elliptical bays and yet there are thousands. You accuse me of being a simple proponent because I want to believe it. Its not that I want this theory to be true - far be it. I was reading about the bay formation before I had come across this other theory from multiple sources.
@steventoney47302 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbeelby1995 you typed that whole book and still didn't bother getting Randall Carlson's explanation? Why would you try to prove or disprove something you don't actually understand as it's intended?
@patefutch61685 күн бұрын
It was a great impact onto ice that when it hit it sent giant sized ice chunks the size of baseball fields
@joshuachristofferson92272 жыл бұрын
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@kgoutube Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis was not covered in detail and was so handily dismissed. A 3 km meteorite slamming into the Laurentide Ice Sheet above Michigan… ejecting ice boulders ballistically after flattening and igniting a wide swath of forest on its approach… then the boulders rain down at multiple times the speed of sound…. I appreciate these Antonio Zamora videos and perhaps others here will too: kzfaq.info/sun/PLmd4S3n7PlE1T2n7G4FxIwFqjU6vw-vbW
@gravitonthongs1363 Жыл бұрын
The reason geologists dismiss Zamora’s hypothesis so easily is because of physics. To explain the bays as impact ejecta marks we need to start with an impact far larger than the K-PG extinction event.
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 cite source?
@gravitonthongs1363 Жыл бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 ejecta blanket law. How many times are you going to ask?
@st-ex850611 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 Forget him, the guy is INCAPABLE of citing a source for his theories... and refers to the in-this-case irrelevant "ejecta blanket law".
@worldbridger911 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 wot? where you pull these figures out of? your ass?
@thomasgruwell51662 жыл бұрын
Search Randall Carlson Carolina Bays.
@gravitonthongs136326 күн бұрын
Or you could gather information from reputable sources
@thelegalsystem2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I thought these looked like Thermoklast lakes! It makes the Western Interior of Alaska look very strange when viewed from above!
@ariadgaia59322 жыл бұрын
Huh! 80,000 hours, eh? I think that's the first ad I've actually appreciated in.. I don't know... Five years? Thanks guys! I'll check them out!
@bundymccain26422 жыл бұрын
Look into The Younger Dryas impact theory. Makes more sense than what Hank is spewing out.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Bay dates do not correspond to single event. Sand base only. Ice melts at impact that size and distance travelled by ejecta. No impact crater. Etc. It’s a fun fantasy. Don’t be so gullible
@Antonio_Zamora2 жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 You are repeating the same thing ad nauseam. You already posted the same comment more than ten times. OSL should only be used for terrain deposited by sedimentary processes. Perfect elliptical features are not created by wind and water, especially the overlapping ones.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
@@Antonio_Zamora okay Einstein
@mrjim3330 Жыл бұрын
Antonio Zamora has the most rigorous hypothesis. His KZfaq channel has dozens of videos describing every conceivable detail.
@gravitonthongs1363 Жыл бұрын
He has the most deceptive conspiracy hypothesis. For a start, he is unable to explain where the 1000km impact crater is, which is required to explain the ejecta volume and distance.
@archstanton_live Жыл бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 most of the impact was absorbed by the ice sheet which at the time was up to a mile thick. The proposed impact site aligns well with Lake Michigan and has been obscured as the glaciers retreated. Continue please. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gaeCZ8lyvZu4Z40.html
@gravitonthongs1363 Жыл бұрын
@@archstanton_live a 1000km crater is required to explain the ejecta volume and distance regardless of terrain type. Basic physics of ejecta blanket law. Continue please.
@user-om2os5yr6i11 ай бұрын
Antonio Zamora is fixated on a version of the scenario incompatible with the evidence. At this point his involvement leads us astray from the true history. We can be certain "it was the wind" is wrong, but that doesn't mean the first thing Zamora thought up is right. Similarly, Zamora being wrong, in detail, does not just leave us with "the wind". Unless Zamora adapts to the evidence, it will take at least a generation after he gives up before any serious geologist can take up an actually plausible scenario.
@st-ex850611 ай бұрын
@@user-om2os5yr6i What evidence does Zamora NOT consider, and is incompatible? Having said this, the impact hypothesis is just that, an hypothesis... However, after studying the topic for years, including looking at features over here in Europe which are said to be similar... but aren't... I have to say that this hypothesis fits the observations much better than any other one I read. The thermokarst lakes one, for example, doesn't hold scrutiny for 5 minutes.
@jerrypolverino60252 жыл бұрын
I am an airline pilot and I have been flying over this area for years, wondering is they were creator’s from a previous bombardment.
@st-ex850611 ай бұрын
You are right on! They indeed are the remnants of impact craters from a saturation bombardment... of huge ice boulders having been ejected in sub-orbital trajectories by a primary impact of a very large meteorite (ca. 3 km) in the Great Lakes region some 13'000 years ago.
@cybaggs Жыл бұрын
Virtually everything we have been told about science and history is mere speculation or outright lies.
@raerohan42412 жыл бұрын
They're _obviously_ acne scars from when the Earth was going through puberty, idk why this was even a question
@mpetersen62 жыл бұрын
There are similar shaped features called the Nebraska Rain Water Basins in Nebraska that point Southwest to Northeast. Both these and the Carolina Bays point to the same general area of Michigan's Lower Peninsula.
@michaelgraalum3812 жыл бұрын
the impact hypothesis is the only one that works.
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Wind
@jacobshore51152 жыл бұрын
I was asking myself at first why I never saw any of these, since I live on the east coast, but when I saw that they exist in southern New Jersey, and I live in Connecticut, well, I’m too far north.
@aedynpoole68762 жыл бұрын
turns out I've been surrounded by them my entire life but I'm just learning about them now lol
@joejefferson69612 жыл бұрын
Yay I never catch a freshly dropped video! Happy to be here!
@st-ex850611 ай бұрын
They are "bays" in many other states than on the East Coast. There are many in Alabama and Mississippi, there are some also in Nebraska (where they are called "Nebraska Rainwater Basins"), and others yet in Iowa, Oklahoma... even a few in Texas. They ALL have three things in common: 1. They are perfect ellipses (except those badly eroded away) 2. They have rims elevated by a few feet. 3. They have their greater axis all ligned up to a common area: the Great Lake region! By that I mean that the Bays located in Long Island have their long axis pointing WNW, those in Virginia NW, in Georgia NNW, in Alabama they point up North, In Oklahoma they point NE and in Nebraska ENE. Some Bays do point in the direction of prevailing winds, most DO NOT! They just cannot be thermokarst lakes for several reasons that just make this hypothesis impossible: a. Thermokarst lakes are NOT elliptical in shape... or just the odd one by chance. They are all sorts of shapes. Carolina Bays are perfect mathematical ellipses... except if eroded away, as already mentioned. b. They don't have elevated rims. c. Their greater axis point downslope... makes sense... water flows down by gravity. "Carolina Bays" don't... or only by chance. d. They physically cannot be on hillsides, but always in lower lands. Carolina Bays are routinely found on hillsides. e. Thermokarst lakes don't have rims, Carolina Bays do. f. Carolina Bays can overlap each other, with the one that was formed last having a complete rim, but having erased the rim of the one that was formed first at the area of overlap. Sometimes, 3 or even 4 of them overlap each other in an intricate pattern. Thermokarst lakes do not overlap each other. g. Thermokarst lakes are created by the melting of permafrost; they are therefore found mostly in northern locations such as Alaska, northern Canada, Siberia, etc. Have you ever heard of permafrost in southern Alabama or Texas???? Even during the glaciation maximum of 20'000 years ago, there was no permafrost anywhere that far South, not by a thousand miles. There are more reasons for Carolina Bays to be neither thermokarst lakes, nor formed by wind, but I shall stop here... So-called Carolina Bays are MUCH more likely to have been formed by ice boulders (some the size of stadiums) ejected by a large meteorite impact on the Laurentian ice sheet, some 13'000 years ago (exact timing still debatable... and definitely debated) in the Great Lakes region. THAT hypothesis convincingly and demonstrably explains ALL the features, locations, geographic orientations, etc of the Carolina Bays. Having said this, the scientific debate is raging between the various hypotheses, and I have been following it with a scientist's interest, all the way from Europe, for several years. I am just surprised that SciShow presented a couple of the hypotheses, but not what is arguably the likeliest one! For those willing to learn more on that hypothesis, KZfaq has dozens of most serious videos on the topic.
@worldbridger911 ай бұрын
I know right? The story that is actually told here is much more fascinating than thermokarsts. The evidence is overwhelming, the dating of sediments is folded along the rims. The story tells so much of north american history and yet still people keep saying its not enough evidence. Geometrical evidence is actually one of the strongest. Coupled to an energy disconect with the ice melting pulses recorded in ice cores. The erosion patterns, the mass exctinction of mega fauna. It all seems a bit out there, yet there just isnt any other explanation. All other possibilities have been ruled out and thermokarsts is definitly not able to form these geometries, let alone overlap dated quartz from jumbled time lines at different depths. Here I think SciShow just passed through the topic from the wikipedia article and presented it as it is accepted. In this case this "accepted theory" is wrong. What is the mechanism to correct the accepted theory? Why is it so difficult for a majority to actually use critical thinking like Sherlock Holmes that says: Exhausting all other explanations, You are left with one, no matter how outlandish it may be, must be correct.
@st-ex850611 ай бұрын
@@worldbridger9 You are 100% correct! Why is main stream academia seemingly not willing to accept it? Well, I think that the reasons are similar, if not identical, to those that ostracized for decades any scientist who doubted the "Clovis first" theory, and ruined the careers of several... until the time it became impossible to refute the mass of evidences against "Clovis first".
@gravitonthongs136310 ай бұрын
@@worldbridger9I wouldn’t go feeling too bad that Zamora’s ruse worked on you. It seems quite compelling until you find the evidence against it. The reason reputable (or “mainstream” if you prefer) geologists do not support his hypothesis is pretty obvious in retrospect. “Ejecta Blanket Law”: 90% of proximal ejecta (above granular size) can be located within 5 crater radii from the crater centre. Therefore: The 2500km distance of many bays from proposed impact site require a 1000km diameter crater to explain as ejecta marks, ice sheet or not.
@worldbridger910 ай бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 huh? where do you get these numbers? range is between 600 to 800 km. There is an energy issue that has been calculated and ascertained without issues by both Zamora and in the papers he referenced. You do not think for yourself, just repeat "mainstream scientists" and defend them with all your ignorance. I respect your loyalty but invite you to be more critical.
@gravitonthongs136310 ай бұрын
@@worldbridger9 when you say “mainstream” scientists you mean scientists, as opposed to pseudoscientists like Zamora. The numbers are minimum so I can claim highest ground. If you calculate by proximal ejecta scaling you get an 1800km crater size. If large impact marks are located at 2500km then smaller proximal ejecta will travel much further. The proximal ejecta blanket would likely extend twice the distance of ejecta that is large enough to form huge bays via 20kt size impact of ejecta ice.
@billallen2752 жыл бұрын
So how do they explain the opposite Lee pointing similar features in Nebraska? As is typical with paid for science, you left out the most intriguing idea which is being pelted from ice from the glacial mass following an impactor event, probably much younger than 90,000 years. Mirrored features in certain Nebraska regions feature the same characteristics.
@garrenosborne96232 жыл бұрын
Antony Gamora's analysis of the bays & Nebraska ones too, convince me they are collateral damage of an impact on a massive ice shelf, possibly if not likely Younger Drayas Impact
@gravitonthongs13632 жыл бұрын
Wind in Nebraska from the north east. Obviously ice cannot travel over 1k km at supersonic speed and inexplicable low trajectory without being disintegrated.
@shawnsg23 күн бұрын
That's conspiracy level playbook. "If you can't prove them wrong try and discredit them." Deep state, big pharma, ivory tower academic elites, big geology(?)
@bcubed722 жыл бұрын
2:32 _"They are the remnants of ancient chili lakes."_ Oh, my. Given the lyrics, "Oh, there's a lake of stew and of whiskey, too you can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe in the Big Rock Candy Mountains" ...it would seem that the Big Rock Candy Mountains were indeed a thing, unfortunately over 90,000 years ago! (Yes, sarcasm.)
@MrARock0012 жыл бұрын
I would have guessed they were kettle lakes, formed by the depressions left by stranded ice as the last glaciers retreated. This is an interesting theory though!
@rivitraven2 жыл бұрын
It's actually quite odd here in America, there's virtually no evidence of kettle lakes even though a very massive ice sheet did exist here. For my hypothesis involving the north side as in Canada, it's the fact that the bedrock was always crystaline and so no significant sedimentary deposition occured. Reason for the east side is that it's all underwater including the terminal moraines and there likely was an ice shelf too. Out towards the west and south we have a different thing. Mainly I actually think it was so dry that lakes didn't really develop well as most of the corn and wheat belt is made of wind blown glacial sediment called loess. We also find old dune remnants throughout the prairie and blowout dunes in Oklahoma. A giant lake covered most of the northwest coast and caused some really bad floods that affected sea level. And the southwest was still the southwest, unaffected by the glaciers.