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What Science Reveals about Shipwreck Graveyards

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Scientific discoveries have revealed some shocking things about ships lost at sea. In this video, join us for a look into the briny depths and the lost ships that make up shipwreck graveyards across the world.
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@SciShow
@SciShow 2 жыл бұрын
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@aguamalone7615
@aguamalone7615 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: if it didn't work the first time, just use more explosives
@MovieMaker1040
@MovieMaker1040 2 жыл бұрын
Wise words to live by for sure.
@route2070
@route2070 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it wasn't a nuke.
@2010zagadka
@2010zagadka 2 жыл бұрын
Not applicable to whales!
@suddeneevee9441
@suddeneevee9441 2 жыл бұрын
Or in other words: "If brute force didn't work, you haven't used enough brute force."
@benjaminhuebner8087
@benjaminhuebner8087 2 жыл бұрын
Worked for the MythBusters!
@buckyhermit
@buckyhermit 2 жыл бұрын
Hank, I like how you're specifying the state names as "in the US." Many of us non-Americans might not know the state names (eg. when I worked in Korea, people might not know what "North Carolina" is) so it's good that you're specifying them. Well done.
@noahway13
@noahway13 2 жыл бұрын
He showed the spot on a world map and a US map. Sooooo... ? It occurred to me that you might be blind, but you wrote the comment. IDK. Maybe Hank will go get you and fly you around the spot. I'll try to wave to you. I live there.
@buckyhermit
@buckyhermit 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahway13 Not everyone is watching the video. I listen to the videos while working. And yes, some people ARE blind and they are on KZfaq too. So maybe think of other people and how they interact with the video, instead of calling them "blind" and assuming that the world revolves around the US.
@justincarnes1656
@justincarnes1656 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahway13 A lot of the time I pick a video and alt + tab to work in a different program.
@willybean9614
@willybean9614 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahway13 blind people are perfectly capable of using technology, in as many ways as you do
@danielleg.1084
@danielleg.1084 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahway13 Blind people absolutely use technology and have for a very long time. Almost all modern person devices (phones, tablets, computers, etc) have extensive accessibility features. So yes although this commenter isn’t blind as has said so that doesn’t mean that blind people aren’t watching this video. Get out of your ableist mindset yourself before someone forces you too in a not so nice way.
@davep5788
@davep5788 2 жыл бұрын
The west coast of Vancouver Island in BC, Canada had so many wrecks on a rugged mostly un-populated coast that they built a life saving trail for rescuers to get in and victims to get out. I went on it when I was 12, almost 50 years ago, and it was spectacular. We just did the northern 'easier' half and returned. Since then it's become renovated and is part of a park, and is so popular that the number of hikers is restricted. If anyone reading this gets the chance to go, do it.
@armstrong.r
@armstrong.r 2 жыл бұрын
Does it have a name?
@davep5788
@davep5788 2 жыл бұрын
@@armstrong.r West Coast Trail in the Pacific Rim National Park.
@one5e
@one5e 2 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Chubb I went on the trail. It’s very beautiful, however it’s not like mountain trails. The ability to travel along the beach at low tide makes travelling very quick and easy if you time it right. The forest trails are kinda rough, but most of the intense elevation is mitigated by ladders. Still a beautiful hike, but if you want a more mountainous hike for training I would suggest mount robson. Also very beautiful, lotta elevation gain, and very worth it
@TheRealSkeletor
@TheRealSkeletor 2 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Chubb It's shorter than the Appalachian trail, though parts of it can be more challenging.
@niagarawarrior9623
@niagarawarrior9623 2 жыл бұрын
it sounds spectacular, too bad its so popular, consider yourself lucky to have seen it in the state that it was. one of my favorite hiking trails in Tobermory, Ontario. The location became so popular the parks department implemented vehicle admission fees ($15), AND you need to reserve a time slot to go there in advance , AND you are only allowed to be there during your 4 hour time slot, AND (i hear) they aren't shy about towing / ticketing anyone who doesn't make it back to their car in time. ....so if you have mobility issues, like to explore, or generally like to enjoy your time outside then this park isnt for you (or me). "just reserve your time a week in advance, pay $15, get your selfies proving you were there , and get the hell out or we'll fine you." attitude. completely ruined the experience, and the destination, literally no reason to ever step foot there again, especially for driving 380km just for a 4 hour visitor time slot, pfftt.
@composthis
@composthis 2 жыл бұрын
Ripple Rock still has extremely dangerous currents - even cruise ships hundreds of feet long still have to wait until the whirlpools and standing waves of the flood tide settle, and only cross the narrows over Ripple Rock's remains at the slack tide. Boats regularly get into trouble there when they miss the tide and try to power through because they don't want to wait.
@ASlickNamedPimpback
@ASlickNamedPimpback Жыл бұрын
more explosives
@khaymanib
@khaymanib 2 жыл бұрын
I work on the Great Lakes and pass by the wreck of the Fitz at least twice a month. I'm the Bosun on the MV Sam Laud, they say out here on a cold snowy day on Lake Superior you can see it floating around. I also came across the MV Arthur Anderson, the last ship to contact the Fitz. She still sails for Lower Lakes Company. I also had traveled many times through the Columbia River Bar also know as Cape Disappointment.
@dave3682
@dave3682 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the SS Wilfred Sykes, also on the Great Lakes. Anderson sails for CN's Great Lakes Fleet, not Lower Lakes. Fitz is not the ghost ship you'll see on lake superior. You're thinking of the Bannockburn.
@khaymanib
@khaymanib 2 жыл бұрын
@@dave3682 oh ok sorry for the misunderstanding. Our chief engineer told me about the Fitzgerald ghost ship thing. Mybe confused himself. Anyways again thanks for the clarification.
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 2 жыл бұрын
@@dave3682 They're both sailing? Wonderful! I'm from the Detroit area and as a child I used to love watching the lake boats sailing by. So glad to know both Ladies are still with us.
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the Anderson around SSM last time I went to the UP; had a "oh, THAT ship" moment.
@MatchGirl
@MatchGirl 2 жыл бұрын
I love tracking what ships come down Lake Michigan - I’m in Muskegon and love coming to see the ships come in. While Superior is known for her waves and storms, I believe Lake Michigan actually has more wrecks. The history of shipping on the Great Lakes is fascinating.
@arkady714
@arkady714 2 жыл бұрын
I, personally, participated in the Trans-Superior International Yacht Race in 2019. On 3 August, a squall hit our boat that brought lightning, hail, winds of 30 kts. and seas as high as 20 ft. It was easy for native tribes to mistake these squalls for spirits as they came in cloud formations that took on various shapes against an otherwise blue sky. One squall that we saw we named "The Owl" as it resembled two white wings. It didn't hit us. But the one that did brought me the closest I'd ever knowingly come to getting killed.
@bernier42
@bernier42 2 жыл бұрын
Your use of the word “seas” is entirely appropriate when talking about Superior.
@lilaclizard4504
@lilaclizard4504 2 жыл бұрын
interesting, thanks for sharing :)
@cameronbuttigieg9060
@cameronbuttigieg9060 Жыл бұрын
It's easy for you to mistake the work of the spirits for weather
@arkady714
@arkady714 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronbuttigieg9060 For certain types of sailors, they're one in the same. Lake Superior harbors more ghosts than can ever be counted. I know. I've seen them.
@connieannemcentee1892
@connieannemcentee1892 2 жыл бұрын
As a friend once said, "Approach the ocean with respect and caution."
@bananadane
@bananadane 2 жыл бұрын
Easily my favourite episode I can recall from you. The hook of the Edmund Fitzgerald pulled me in, And then you totally exceeded expectations by presenting so much more interesting stuff! The ecological tragedy of the lake I had never even heard of that. I could write five or six TIL stories from this one video
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 2 жыл бұрын
I 'm a total Edward Fitzgerald head but am interested in all things nautical so enjoyed this episode greatly.
@arthas640
@arthas640 2 жыл бұрын
Love that song
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 2 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it the bodies on the Edmund Fitzgerald are still largely intact. One diver in 1994 got pictures, which were forbidden from being distributed, for obvious reasons. The water is very cold and surprisingly low in microbes, and the Great Lakes don’t have the same deep water scavengers that the open ocean does. I believe there’s now a moratorium on diving the wreck, and sharing pictures of the bodies in Lake Superior is forbidden.
@Cruz474
@Cruz474 2 жыл бұрын
The Ripple Rock story had me dying omg. Why do I find it so funny.
@suddeneevee9441
@suddeneevee9441 2 жыл бұрын
Well they tried to blow up an underwater rock, and failed. TWICE. Then they used the largest non-nuclear explosion ever used from inside the rock and it was blown to bits.
@jonathanbyrdmusic
@jonathanbyrdmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I sailed in "the Perfect Storm" in a flat-bottomed ship off the coast of North Carolina. There were literally bootprints on the walls. We limped back to Norfolk with a 6-foot rip in a solid steel hull.
@lilaclizard4504
@lilaclizard4504 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone's ever considered designing a boat or ship that would stay afloat upsidedown, particularly a smaller fishing type vessel. Would it be possible to design something where the fishing rigging could be cut off/released & have submarine type doors that could be closed & sealed & the people go inside & be thrown around in all directions (or better still have a sort of roller coaster seatbelt system they put on to hold them in place on one wall in a small room that could be cleared of all loose objects) & at the end of the storm, the core of the boat/ship is designed to still be intact & floating, even if everything outside that core is ripped off & gone? Maybe a ball type structure to increase the strenght/reduce stress points, kinda a lifeboat within the main structure that after the storm the people can hopefully leave to be in the main part of the boat, but in the case of total destruction, the rest rips away & just the floating ball core is left, but people alive inside. I dunno, probably a fantasy when you're talking about 6 foot rips in steel hulls, but just thinking if we can make zorb balls & submarines, shouldn't it be possible to make something that would be highly unpleasant & result in mass vomiting & a horrible experience, BUT be survivable no matter what the conditions do?
@AnimeSunglasses
@AnimeSunglasses Жыл бұрын
​@@lilaclizard4504 well, EXACTLY that approach is not likely to be practical or safe enough, because if the reinforced section of the ship is small enough not to interfere with the rest of the design, it's probably small enough to be dragged to the bottom anyway by the ship sinking, and if it's large enough to hold the ship afloat then it dictates much of the rest of the ship's design, at which point it's much better to just build the whole ship to that standard. Which we DO, but it's expensive enough that the only large scale buyers are rescue services like the Coast Guard. (It's also increasingly difficult to do as a vessel gets larger. Naval vessels are built to similar high standards, with intent to survive not just storms but combat damage.) Going in the other direction, modern life rafts are designed to automatically detach from a sinking ship and inflate themselves, pretty well serving the other half of your suggestion.
@relaxandsleep978
@relaxandsleep978 2 жыл бұрын
That song he mentioned about the shipwreck is very haunting and amazing actually: "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" by Gordon Lightfoot: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9yDh5mZu7jOYnU.html
@Real28
@Real28 2 жыл бұрын
Great Lakes are not a joke. Lake Erie ESPECIALLY. It has an average depth of just 40ft and the Western Basin is especially shallow and DAMN can it change in a matter of minutes. I've been out in docile, 1-2ft waves with my dad in a boat that can easily handle 4-6. In a matter of minutes, a squall blew in and we were left racing time, pushing our boat to it's limit to beat it. We made it with 5min to spare. We looked back out and what was a beautiful, 1.2ft wave day had turned to white caps and 3-4fters. The other big danger is how close the swells are. The distance between each wave is short, which is great for longer boats but shorter boats don't stand a chance. Great Lakes don't play. Each one has distinctly different characteristics and weather. Makes navigating them challenging.
@aste4949
@aste4949 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...thank you for sharing and glad to know you guys made it!!
@selinesbeau
@selinesbeau 2 жыл бұрын
We lived on the shore of Lake Erie when I was a kid. The storms used to throw all sorts of debris (logs, little boats, etc) up over our breakwall and into our back yard. Granny thought our house would blow away.
@demondoggy1825
@demondoggy1825 2 жыл бұрын
There was also that time a cyclone formed on lake Huron. The great lakes have some really, really crazy weather
@PixieCinnanom
@PixieCinnanom 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up at the mouth of the Columbia and it was a rare treat to see the name of my tiny hometown (and my mother's and her mother's) pop up on map in a big channel like this. I used to play at Deadman's Cove (so named for the shipwreck victims that washed up there) just below the lighthouse at Cape Disappointment. The US Coast Guard has their National Motor Lifeboat School there at the mouth of the Columbia since the Columbia River Bar and its surrounding environs (currents, weather, sand, and rocks) make such a great training environment for the natural dangers Coast Guard members may encounter in any other American waters. My great-grandfather helped build the jetties (by which I mean he was a laborer and not an engineer or designer).
@nateverge1167
@nateverge1167 2 жыл бұрын
I've been through Seymour Narrows in a 40ft sailboat. It was pretty awe inspiring how much water moves through there and we made sure not to go through when the current was the strongest. I can only imagine how terrifying it would be if there was a giant rock in the middle.
@guccilibrarian4728
@guccilibrarian4728 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a unique and fascinating topic for SciShow - I loved it! Great job!
@bobbygermain5428
@bobbygermain5428 2 жыл бұрын
I love scishow my favorite KZfaq channel when I want to learn something new! Keep up the good work you guys!
@ForeverLumoz
@ForeverLumoz 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I love their podcast as well
@meandjd
@meandjd 2 жыл бұрын
Another one of Lake Superior Sunken boats is SS Kamloops which has 'Old Whitey' a corpse of a man that "follows you around" if you explore the ship. Which in turn brings up the issue of should you be exploring a gravesite? Is treasure hunting on a sunken boat in fact graverobbing?
@davidfuller581
@davidfuller581 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, especially on those considered war graves.
@masonjohnson4310
@masonjohnson4310 2 жыл бұрын
I think international law says that shipwrecks do often count as graves. Though I'm not sure how that interacts with the Great Lakes. Since neither the United States nor Britain is technically allowed to put warships on them (from the war of 1812), if I remember correctly, it might not be considered either Canadian or American waters. I am, however, no expert. I'm probably way off base.
@alexmacdonald5087
@alexmacdonald5087 2 жыл бұрын
The Canadian government actually has ruled that you aren't even allowed to dive some of the wreaks in the great lakes because they are graves
@R.M.MacFru
@R.M.MacFru 2 жыл бұрын
@@masonjohnson4310 ...that comes into play for four out of five of them. Due to all the privately funded dives from the US, Canada enacted a law regarding preservation of sites like that, backed up with a $1M fine.
@Primalxbeast
@Primalxbeast 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmacdonald5087 That's ok, I'd rather dive on a nice warm reef.
@samj996
@samj996 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching for almost a decade now. dope vid, Keep up the great work!
@PandaPawz735
@PandaPawz735 2 жыл бұрын
There's a 1906 shipwreck on the Oregon coast called the Peter Iredale I grew up visiting often. Lo and behold, it's right by the Columbia river. It's also rapidly being covered up by sand. Just in my 23 years of life the wreck has gotten a lot smaller, so it was very interesting hearing that there's a lot of sediment buildup in that area specifically. Thanks for the video!
@goliathprojects7354
@goliathprojects7354 2 жыл бұрын
Shipwreck Graveyard would be an amazing name for a metal band
@LostSonOfPluto
@LostSonOfPluto 2 жыл бұрын
Not often a Scishow episode gets a song stuck in my head. But I'm not complaining
@glenngriffon8032
@glenngriffon8032 2 жыл бұрын
The Ripple Rock story is amazing. Such a human response to an obstacle. When all else fails: *BOOM*
@aircraftcarrierwo-class
@aircraftcarrierwo-class 2 жыл бұрын
Some ship graveyards are the result of something a lot more tragic: War. Savo Sound off the coast of Guadalcanal has so many American and Japanese warships sunk into its waters that sailors refer to it as Iron-Bottom Sound. 5 different major battles happened in Savo Sound over 3 years along with countless skirmishes. Over 50 vessels have been identified and there are many more suspected to be present that have not been located yet. This is not to mention any landing craft or airplanes that were also lost. To this day, ships observe silence while crossing Savo Sound, and once a year a wreath is dropped in the water to remember those lost.
@AoiLucine
@AoiLucine 2 жыл бұрын
So what I'm hearing is Canada has a looooot of shipwrecks. Considering I'm from Newfoundland, this checks out.
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse 2 жыл бұрын
I get chills whenever I hear a verse from the Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald. That song is haunting.
@alexmacdonald5087
@alexmacdonald5087 2 жыл бұрын
There's a second reason the great lakes don't give up the dead, diving inside a wreak is incredibly dangerous, you can get stuck/trapped very easily, it's just as easy to get lost within the wreak, and there's a structure over your head if you need to get out quickly, so no going straight up. All in all it's similar to cave diving, and in both cases the retrieving of bodies is about equal in difficulty and danger to getting a body off Everest.
@merlinious01
@merlinious01 2 жыл бұрын
@@emeraldbonsai What stops someone from going down to a wreck with out certifications, assuming they have the capital?
@aethelwolfe3539
@aethelwolfe3539 2 жыл бұрын
There is a big difference between diving to a wreck, and diving inside a wreck.
@pheart2381
@pheart2381 2 жыл бұрын
@@merlinious01 the wishes of the Relatives of the people who died. Some of them are designated grave sites.
@merlinious01
@merlinious01 2 жыл бұрын
@@pheart2381 That is fair enough. Would they not prefer whatever personal effects that can be salvaged be returned? Maybe even be able to bury some of the bodies, even if they're just bones?
@merlinious01
@merlinious01 2 жыл бұрын
@@aethelwolfe3539 I am not talking about the safety aspect, just the legal one. Personally, I'm not crazy about diving at all, but sending in a ROV or something shouldn't be too risky
@StonedtotheBones13
@StonedtotheBones13 2 жыл бұрын
You could argue economics played into many of the great lakes deaths as well. Most notably the Fitz. There's a point when the lakes freeze over and travel becomes dangerous and impossible, and the owning company pushed the run against the predicted start of that freeze. Also diving to the Fitzgerald and other wrecks can be taken very personally by the victims' families so maybe don't.
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the companies are always trying to get in that last run. Quite a few lake freighters have gone down due to this, and deferred maintenance as well.
@rjgoniea
@rjgoniea 2 жыл бұрын
November is not a time for widespread ice on Lake Superior. Maybe back in the days of wooden vessels they'd stop shipping in November, but the modern shipping season for the upper Great Lakes runs until mid January. If there was an economic factor in the sinking of the Fitz was that owners repeatedly put off necessary maintenance. There were serious issues with the ship that owners claim would have been addressed during the next lay-up. Also she had been authorized to carry more cargo than she was originally designed for. This led to her floating lower in the water, increasing the risk of running aground or being overwhelmed by waves. Both of those things were suspected of occurring on that last voyage. And the Fitz is officially off limits to recreational diving by Canadian law. The last sanctioned dive came in the early 90's when the ship's bell was salvaged to put in the nearby Whitefish Point Shipwreck Museum.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielkorladis7869 "deferred maintenance" is one of those euphemisms they really pulled out all a the stops for.
@joshuaamy3010
@joshuaamy3010 2 жыл бұрын
Ask a Mortician has a phenomenal video about the Edmund Fitzgerald and Lake Superior shipwrecks in general
@StonedtotheBones13
@StonedtotheBones13 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaamy3010 that's where I got my info lol
@OBtheamazing
@OBtheamazing 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot Key West. Definitely an economic factor. The city would turn off their lighthouse on purpose to cause ship wreck. Wreckers would then sail out to the shallow sunken ship and “salvage” the goods. They still have a race about it every year.
@DrJALAGHARI
@DrJALAGHARI 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video and great information shared as usual.
@novi0
@novi0 2 жыл бұрын
As a Yooper I need to click when I see the Edmund Fitzgerald
@arthas640
@arthas640 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up near the Columbia and that bar is INSANE to the point that pilots on the water usually need special training to cross and they even use some specialized ships to cross it sometimes. It can be dangerous for even small ships and fishing boats can get wrecked there due to the rough waters. It was considered one of the most dangerous shipping regions in the world before it was dredged heavily. There are even shipwrecks that couldn't be salvaged because of how dangerous it was
@mellow-jello
@mellow-jello 2 жыл бұрын
Did not know Canada is a sailor's bane, given the many shipwreck prone areas, which also include the NW Passage.
@reesehendricksen1871
@reesehendricksen1871 2 жыл бұрын
I mean just look at the HMS Terror and Erebus, both claimed by the NW Passage.
@chegeny
@chegeny 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Hank. Good information and production, one of my favourite recent SciShow episodes.
@LauriePearce87
@LauriePearce87 2 жыл бұрын
Hank, you’re a treasure. Love you
@kennbrandon4756
@kennbrandon4756 2 жыл бұрын
I run to Ripple Rock often as my trail running route! That is a crazy hairpin turn and we watch cruise ships navigate the narrows there as entertainment. The boats are close enough you can hear the people talking on board. Giant ships and tight turns is always good people watching.
@diamondjub2318
@diamondjub2318 2 жыл бұрын
the trick to not sinking your ship is to just not be lured by the song of the sirens
@ronkirk5099
@ronkirk5099 2 жыл бұрын
I developed a profound respect for the ocean after having spent 7 years cruising singlehanded in a 33', steel pilothouse cutter sailboat in most of the world's oceans including several months in the Southern Ocean rounding 4 of the 5 southern capes (didn't sail south of New Zealand), the Skeleton Coast, both coasts of Canada and the far North Atlantic. Over 60,000 miles in all under sail. The oceans are not to be trifled with because they are very unforgiving.
@arche2460
@arche2460 Жыл бұрын
I've recently been really into maritime history and learning about the culture and superstitions of sailors. I've come to the conclusion that sailors are some of the toughest, strongest, and dedicated people. There are so many stories of sailors surviving horrible, tragic shipwrecks and disasters, weathering dangerous and terrible storms and waters, losing everyone aboard... And then returning to the sea anyway. It's amazing how strong the pull of the ocean is to keep sailors coming back no matter what tragedy they survive. It's genuinely admirable they're even able to do that.
@adamgtrap
@adamgtrap 2 жыл бұрын
Within the last year or so I think there have been like 4 vessels getting stranded on the OBX. Not full on "shipwrecks", but boats still run aground there all the time. Like you've said, the sailing conditions there are hard. Not only do the ocean currents meet there, but during tide changed the water moving through the inlets is stronger than many rivers I've seen. All the shifting shoals don't help. There can be temporary sand bars a good ways out from shore. The 4.5 mile straight distance between the Hatteras and Ocracoke ferry terminals takes an hour good reasons.
@andrewkuebler4335
@andrewkuebler4335 2 жыл бұрын
"See that rock over there, just under the water?" "Yeah?" "I don't want to."
@ironhades6771
@ironhades6771 2 жыл бұрын
7:58 Once you brought up the weather of the great lakes I couldn't help but think of Stan Roger's song "White Squall" and specifically the bit from the chorus “Don’t take the Lakes for granted. They go from calm to a hundred knots so fast they seem enchanted.”
@Jarekthegamingdragon
@Jarekthegamingdragon Жыл бұрын
The one thing left out about the columbia river is that, despite what people think, Portland IS NOT a coastal town. The columbia river is your access to Portland. So it's a problem that you can't avoid.
@jamesbrowne1004
@jamesbrowne1004 2 жыл бұрын
You left out Hellgate New York that earned the name repeatedly until it was also the location of what was the largest explosion up to that time. It is the main route to New England and there is still a crowded condition when the tugboats with barges and all of the other traffic only travel through on slack tide.
@CCNYMacGuy
@CCNYMacGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I had no idea until today that both Astorias sat on treacherous waters!
@cloudkitt
@cloudkitt 2 жыл бұрын
Always satisfying when "blow it up" turns out to be the actual practical solution.
@hufflebuff82
@hufflebuff82 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
@joshuadunford3171
@joshuadunford3171 2 жыл бұрын
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her
@rykx0r
@rykx0r 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Gordon Lightfoot does.
@vangu2918
@vangu2918 2 жыл бұрын
Those lyrics give me chills everytime I hear or see them.
@danielseelye6005
@danielseelye6005 2 жыл бұрын
@@vangu2918 I got the chance to see the recovered bell at Michigan State University as a high schooler before it went to the Maritime Museum. Quite an experience for me.
@hemberger91
@hemberger91 2 жыл бұрын
One thing everyone can agree on. If all else fails. Blow it up!
@innovativeatavist159
@innovativeatavist159 2 жыл бұрын
I have family that's been out on Nag Head in the outer banks for generations. Supposedly the inhabitants used to trick ships into thinking it was a safe spot using lanterns to imitate lighthouses, and when the ship wrecked they would scavenge whatever they could get.
@funnelvortex7722
@funnelvortex7722 2 жыл бұрын
The pirate Dan Seavey who operated on Lake Michigan used the same tactic. It was a very effective sabotage tactic back in the day, it’s known as “moonlighting”.
@hithere5553
@hithere5553 Жыл бұрын
@@funnelvortex7722not to be confused with moonshine, another North Carolina tradition.
@katendress6142
@katendress6142 Жыл бұрын
I have Yankee whalers and Norwegian fishermen in my family tree. As a kid, I was told "never turn your back on a body of water you can't see the other side of."
@task_under_rubblestone5575
@task_under_rubblestone5575 2 жыл бұрын
There is also a song about shipwrecks called fire and flame about Halifax near Sable Island
@arche2460
@arche2460 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's not so much about shipwrecks as it is about the Halifax Explosion. There wasn't really much ship left to wreck I imagine
@redelfshotthefood8213
@redelfshotthefood8213 2 жыл бұрын
The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot is a classic song covering the tragedy.
@lilymercy
@lilymercy 2 жыл бұрын
fire and flame is by the longest johns if anyone wants to find it very haunting. but that tragedy was caused by the goods on board one of the vessels and a collision not a wreck due to natural conditions
@lilymercy
@lilymercy 2 жыл бұрын
the song downed and drowned by the longest johns is filled with wrecks. every verse in that song is a new tragedy
@arche2460
@arche2460 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilymercy It’s such an amazing song! It took a few listens before I could listen to it without crying a little lmao
@urwholefamilydied
@urwholefamilydied 2 жыл бұрын
1:57 I love how they just cut to some stock footage that has nothing to do with currents or shipwrecks. "a bunch of islands!!... how are boats supposed to get around THAT, on TOP of all the crazy Atlantic currents!?"
@yokoshemp
@yokoshemp 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Michigan. Those lakes are tricky. I have swam in Superior and it was so cold I couldn't bring myself to put my head under water. Spent a good amount of time out on Lake Huron when I was young. I had a rowboat and went out at will. My parents disapproved but I didn't care... there be fish out there! It can be so calm and glass smooth then in minutes best measured in seconds turn into a raging beast. In '76 I was enjoying the lake about 200 yards off shore when a straight line wind came up blowing about 50mph... blowing straight out. I had to aim straight in and row for my life. Very lucky to have been young, strong, and well conditioned to rowing. A power boat did not have the option of beaching and it's pilot was inexperienced so it sank in view of the shore. Another time a freighter had lost a load of telephone poles... those things floated vertical so you had the butt end hardly breaking the surface. No danger for a rowboat but powerboats were presented with a significant hazard. Some day scishow needs to do a vid on the fish of the lakes... they have changed over and over due to the actions of man.
@rjgoniea
@rjgoniea 2 жыл бұрын
If you think swimming Superior near shore is cold, try wreck diving. I went diving some of the wrecks near Munising one time. It was summer, but once I got down below the thermocline it didn't matter that I had a 2piece 7mm thick wetsuit on.🥶Not going down there again unless I can afford a dry suit.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 2 жыл бұрын
Which sea shanty is most appropriate?
@svenmorgenstern9506
@svenmorgenstern9506 2 жыл бұрын
Why, the Accountant's Sea Shanty, of course! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bb-FnKVz0dqzl2g.html
@Bauks
@Bauks 2 жыл бұрын
#5 Duluth Minnesota here. The song from Gordon Lightfoot has always been a staple around here.
@maryannpshock955
@maryannpshock955 2 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating! Thank you!
@newshodgepodge6329
@newshodgepodge6329 Жыл бұрын
The legend lives on...
@janetf23
@janetf23 2 жыл бұрын
This one deserves an extra👍
@alaricdogface
@alaricdogface 2 жыл бұрын
Gordon Lightfoot meets Hank's toe.
@madeline799
@madeline799 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a kayak guide on Lake Superior and some of the ships are shallow enough to see from the surface on a clear day.
@felbarashla
@felbarashla 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in shipwrecks like this: I would suggest the new podcast Ship Hits the Fan. It’s a RoosterTeeth podcast where each episode they talk about a different shipwreck.
@greg_216
@greg_216 2 жыл бұрын
"Oligotrophic" is a fun science word to describe Lake Superior.
@rahn45
@rahn45 2 жыл бұрын
Does this mean a certain dresser is going to meet a fate with a lot of dynamite in the future?
@VAM_Physics_and_Engineering
@VAM_Physics_and_Engineering 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@schifoso
@schifoso 2 жыл бұрын
Seymour Narrows, where Ripple Rock is, has some impressive looking water when the tide changes. It's a dangerous place. North tip of Vancouver Island is really dangerous. Some of the tallest swells in the world are up there.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
Lots I didn't know. Grateful landlubber and channel fan here.
@williamferland3829
@williamferland3829 2 жыл бұрын
Thank scishow you have great content. I appreciate it
@nickk4953
@nickk4953 2 жыл бұрын
For blowing up that island it sounded personal to the people for the second approach.
@masterimbecile
@masterimbecile 2 жыл бұрын
Ship shipping ship shipping shipping ships.
@KittyRenee1212
@KittyRenee1212 2 жыл бұрын
There is a ship wreck tour on Lake Superior where you can look down into the water at the grave yards. They are also protected monuments and grave sites and theft from the sites is punishable by prison time
@robynalice879
@robynalice879 2 жыл бұрын
I see your Band reference, and I love it. Acadian Driftwood might be worth poking into in regards to history, too.
@Myname-il9vd
@Myname-il9vd 2 жыл бұрын
3:28 hey! I can see my house from here!
@Gutsquasher
@Gutsquasher 2 жыл бұрын
2:27 "before radar or gps navigation instruments like sextants were the most accurate tool to figure out your location". Sextants are half of the equation, clocks are the other half. Until the early 1800s clocks weren't readily accessible for Maritime travel, making figuring out how far east or west you were almost impossible.
@Articulate99
@Articulate99 Жыл бұрын
Always interesting, thanks.
@karl9x
@karl9x 2 жыл бұрын
Yay, another episode
@Ben-wr7my
@Ben-wr7my 2 жыл бұрын
The legend lives on from the chippewa on down....
@JasonCorfman
@JasonCorfman 2 жыл бұрын
What? No mention of the Bermuda Triangle. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tells you. SHOCKED!
@beaudavis3808
@beaudavis3808 2 жыл бұрын
I am just as surprised as you. Paranormal activity aside, there are a lot of wrecks of both ships and planes down there, and with good reasons why they down there. No aliens needed.
@Miss_Trillium
@Miss_Trillium 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked this video mostly to make sure that the Columbia River got its fair dues, and I'm glad to say it did. Growing up in the area, I learned that pretty much since the first explorers (like Juan de Fuca) there's been hundreds of wrecks off and in the mouth. During certain tied, there's a few you can see on the coastline
@sherrijennings9309
@sherrijennings9309 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are too many ship graveyards around the world to cover them all in 1 video, but I was disappointed that you didn't mention The Shipwreck Coast along the southern coast of Victoria, Australia. the currents and prevailing winds between Victoria and Tasmania combined with the geology of the coastline have proven fatal for MANY ships.
@newworldoddity925
@newworldoddity925 Жыл бұрын
Surprised the shipwreck Coast off of Victoria and south Australia wasn't mentioned
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter Жыл бұрын
The Columbia river is also a major shipping lane, taking ships to places like Portland and The Dalles.
@briansquibb999
@briansquibb999 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you
@icarusunited
@icarusunited Жыл бұрын
I find it funny we are preventing a river delta from forming near vancouver just so we can push out slightly bigger ships.
@nicholasmackley8580
@nicholasmackley8580 3 ай бұрын
7:47 Great Lakes regional folk song mentioned!!!
@ayimmali2893
@ayimmali2893 2 жыл бұрын
Many fans of Mythbusters here! Glad to know,i am not alone😃😄
@canaanval
@canaanval 2 жыл бұрын
Fathom Five National Marine Park! Coolest shipwrecks in the great lakes!!!
@jaimesroe
@jaimesroe 2 жыл бұрын
The Skeleton Coast off the shore of the Namib Desert is another good one. It has several thousand shipwrecks, some are now kilometers away from shore in the desert. And once you're shipwrecked, you have to traverse many kilometers of the hostile, uninhabited desert.
@piplupcola
@piplupcola 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanna learn more about shipwrecks in history check out the podcast Ship Hits the Fan it's very insightful but fun to listen to!
@cat_clawz9473
@cat_clawz9473 2 жыл бұрын
Well they may have split up or they may have capsized
@task_under_rubblestone5575
@task_under_rubblestone5575 2 жыл бұрын
They may have broke deep and took water
@SaturnCanuck
@SaturnCanuck 2 жыл бұрын
That was great. The Reader’s Digest Condensed Version of the Edmund Fitzgerald. “There once a was a ship, and it sank and people died, and people prayed and there’s a moral in there, somewhere.”
@DrDingsGaster
@DrDingsGaster Жыл бұрын
Man, Lake Effect weather is nasty! Especially in the UP when it gets winter time or now when the temps are fluctuating.
@bluestormpony
@bluestormpony 2 жыл бұрын
9:50 THATS MY HUMANITY
@polperie
@polperie 2 жыл бұрын
we love you Sci show
@Dovietail
@Dovietail 2 жыл бұрын
Someday we'll be talking about SPACE shipwreck graveyards. I just know it!
@johnashleyhalls
@johnashleyhalls Жыл бұрын
Sorry for not paying closer attention to this superlative channel. My obscure point is, the Ripple Rock was once considered to be an example of how to use nuclear explosives to "correct" a navigation hazard. One of the proposals to remove/ablate that hazard was to use a nuclear bomb to change the ocean topography. Just saying.
@invisibilius1978
@invisibilius1978 2 жыл бұрын
idk if this is exactly wjat the video is talking about but both cape horn by south america and the cape of good hope by SOuth Africa are also super dangerous for ships
@hithere5553
@hithere5553 Жыл бұрын
The complex structure of the North Carolina coast also makes for one of best places to fish in the world.
@imenhashim6943
@imenhashim6943 2 жыл бұрын
you should do an episode on the toxic oil that is seeping out of shipwrecks. its a HUGE environmental hazard. the vast majority of oil contamination in the ocean is not from oil spills, its from shipwrecks. Many of them have already been labeled as superfund sites.
@liizs2863
@liizs2863 Жыл бұрын
There's another area near Kingston in Lake Ontario that causes a lot of shipwrecks. It's where the St Lawrence meets the lake and many ships hit shallow water there
@RandyJames22
@RandyJames22 2 жыл бұрын
Pool noodles work wonders to prevent stubbed toes!
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