It's simultaneously a autocracy and a representative democracy and a tribal democracy. And it scales up fine because the only thing their "government" is allowed to decide is whether their civilization is going to go to war.
@asmkalrizion7078 Жыл бұрын
Considering war is their religion it makes sense that their government would mainly focus on making that decision, especially considering their individual houses could have their own policies
@ronaldsmith6829 Жыл бұрын
No, the society is a Monarchy. He who held the Dark Sabre was king. It was total rule. However, the clan leaders worked to keep order on the local level. If I recall correctly, there was a council comprised of the Clan Leaders to whom the Monarch answered.
@jacob4920 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldsmith6829 It's a dynastic monarchy, similar to what the Chinese ran, for centuries, before they fell to Communism. In that system, you indeed had an emperor, whose only purpose was to unite the land in times of war. But apart from that, in times of peace, the land was run by a bunch of noble families (or clans), such as Wu, Shu, or Wei, and often was fractured, and constantly at war with one another over petty land disputes/personal matters. China also had a notion called: "The Mandate of Heaven," whereas an imperial dynasty could last only as long as the land prospered, and was plentiful. In times of famine/economic hardship/plague, it would be seen as a sign that the Imperial Family had lost "The Mandate of Heaven," and that justified uprisings by both nobles and common peoples, to overthrow the dynasty. This is where the Dark Saber comes in, in regards to Mandalore, seeing as how possessing the Dark Saber was considered pretty much the same as having "The Mandate of Heaven," in Mandalorian terms. If you did not have the Dark Saber. You were not worthy. Therefore we do not have to follow you, and are honor-bound to desert you. Bo Katan knows how this works.
@asmkalrizion7078 Жыл бұрын
@Ronald Smith not at all times, often times a Mandalor rose up and claimed the dark saber, but that doesn't mean it is always a monarchy, the darksaber is just generally a symbol of unification to them
@SpaceCaseZ06 Жыл бұрын
Wait who's building the infrastructure if all they need government for is war declaration (as the OP suggested)? Who's building court houses, assembly buildings, schoolhouses, Who's running plumbing, sewage, sanitation? Roads, highways, railways, space docks/ports Whose building and maintaining a planetary fleet and defense. Every house is going to be responsible for themselves? That's a recipe for wasteful inefficient redundancy too expensive to maintain and upgrade to modern competitive standards much less state of the art standards sufficient for responsible deterrence
@wizard680 Жыл бұрын
My opinion is that they HAVE to have some sort of permanent council system (probably a parliament or something). This is because the person at the top is mainly chosen by combat. So, being a master at politics isn't required. But for Mandalore to function, there has to be an effective administration that is able to seamlessly transfer from one Mandalore to another.
@FellsApprentice Жыл бұрын
It's called the clan system
@darthnihilusthebestsith Жыл бұрын
@@FellsApprentice no
@darthnihilusthebestsith Жыл бұрын
Also the head of the Government should not be the Head of State, precisely because of those reasons you mentioned + the fact that the Mandalore needs to be somewhat above all partisan politics
@mk_gamíng0609 Жыл бұрын
@@FellsApprentice lol, no? The clan heads are not elected so if the council was made up of clan heads it would be incredibly self-serving and ineffective
@asmkalrizion7078 Жыл бұрын
That is ofcourse if they maintain the rule of a single mandalor, but what if the council is formed of the heads of each mandalorian house with members of each house being allowed to challenge their head to be their house's representative.
@Boomblox5896 Жыл бұрын
Realistically we're gonna have two parties: The Children of the Watch who base their decisions on tradition and the preservation of the people, and the Nite Owls who find pride in bloodlines and make decisions based on overall gain, plus a bit of tradition, but with the Dark Saber destroyed, that last bit of "tradition" gets destroyed along with it.
@chadbrad8100 Жыл бұрын
Nope dark saber can be fixed the handle is dented but the black crystal is still intact lol
@SpaceCaseZ06 Жыл бұрын
That seems an extremely simplistic notion of what the nite owls are. They'll likely split apart into smaller houses though with much less unifying fundamentalism
@Boomblox5896 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceCaseZ06 If they managed to unify under Axe Woves to become privateers, then I doubt they'll really separate THAT much. I mean they all wear the same armor, meanwhile the Children of the Watch have so many different colors yet somehow unite as one. Even the descendant of Pre Viszla.
@SpaceCaseZ06 Жыл бұрын
@@Boomblox5896 you may be turn out to be right but i doubt it Once they're established in a new environment surrounded by different people with different bonds and different relationships, their bonds will necessarily change their interdependence will change perhaps not immediately but within two generations. Their choices in careers, vocations, employment immediately widen when they have a fixed home and are no longer nomadic. Their loyalty to Axe Woves was based on their dependence to the fleet as their home and many of those who originally joined would have done so under Bo Katan with the purpose of recapturing Mandalore which is no longer the objective Also, having similar armor would be tied to having similar resources and constraints from living on that fleet. They would've been paid similarly and supplied similarly. The children of the watch were each solo independent mercenary operators with disparate income levels
@Boomblox5896 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceCaseZ06 You have a point, however if the Nite Owls individual members indeed have more individuality than what's under the surface, then I bet they would have spray-painted their armor something else a lot sooner, but they didn't. They mostly kept the default blue/grey. Also I doubt armor paint is that expensive if they really wanted it.
@dillarslk Жыл бұрын
one of swtor's current storylines seems to be approaching the same question. Mandalore the Avenger is perhaps a better bounty hunter than leader. Would love it if other mandos who are extremely proficient at different jobs created a cabinet of mandos; each one with different specialties.
@asmkalrizion7078 Жыл бұрын
Tbf, she doesn't need to disband houses, but set it up so that Houses are the form of governance and clans can change which house they fall under, allowing each person some extent of a "vote" by choosing which house they support and are supported by. Houses then could become literal houses as each house is responsible for erecting fortresses within which their own little cities could form.
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The houses could be parties in a representative democracy or perhaps parts of a coalition government.
@iainballas Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some new Mandalorian Crusades, though I doubt it'd be in Disney's playbook to go that angle. It'd be fun to see the Mandalorians post first-order spreading across the galaxy, unifying at least the outer rim under their rule and brining order in the form of a martial honorbound-warrior state. It would be a fun change from the galaxy being controlled by an evil overlord or squabbling delegates. Heck, seeing Mandalorians go up against Thrawn in the next trilogy would be incredible.
@montgomerym5407 Жыл бұрын
I like this idea a lot, because it felt like parts of Season 3 were building towards this. They are given land on Nevarro, the leaders of Plazir-15 say they’ll recognize them as a sovereign system, and if Boba can be brought into the fold they have the possibility of access to a stable underworld cell. I think this would give them plenty of room to grow to begin the new Mandalorian empire and crusade across the outer rim in search of Imperial Remnant controlled worlds to “liberate”. Offering protection to independent systems from the exploitation of Imps and the NR both I think would be appealing to a lot of systems.
@depaturearrival6678 Жыл бұрын
I think you will remain my favorite Star Wars content creator for a long, long time, even in a galaxy far, far away.
@HolyknightVader999 Жыл бұрын
I imagine they'll have a sort of Starship Troopers-style government with the military being top priority, especially when you have monsters all over Mandalore that they'll have to cull. Conflict has defined most of their history, and given the state of their homeworld, conflict will continue to define it for generations more.
@DesertCharleyVideos Жыл бұрын
It would have been a cool scene at the end of Mando where individuals walk up to the forges and drop various pieces of Imperial Beskar armor from the battle to be melted down. Symbolic too!
@Elvisthacynicalone Жыл бұрын
I love your best selling point for disrupters was “less clean up time”
@joshuawells835 Жыл бұрын
Likely a combination of the traditional Mandalorian government with that of the New Mandalorians. Bo-Katan Kryze could take up her late sister's title of Duchess of Mandalore, with a prime minister and cabinet under her. Maybe throw in a House of Clans, where each Mandalorian Clan gets a seat and vote, and another house for the larger Mandalorian society, as the Mandalorians colonized other worlds. Canon examples include Knownest, the seat of Clan Wren, and Nevarrow, new seat of Clan Mudhorn (make Din Djarin "the Count of Nevarro").
@SargesCustoms Жыл бұрын
RIP Steve. Great video and very thought provoking.
@gr8tbigtreehugger Жыл бұрын
There is also a distinction in government dynamics based on the founding: rebellion vs. colonial vs. civil war vs. last warlord standing.
@CAMM55 Жыл бұрын
Man your videos are very interesting, very entertaining! I just love your last part when you mention that Mandalore Need Bo Katan (obvious answer) but also you mention Din Djarin!! I can imagine Din Grogu been a important part of Mandalore and with a possibility of a Sibling (a offspring of Bo and Din) in new adventures!
@baronvonwolf1457 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the government would be some sort of monarchy. Either inherited (depending on how powerful Bo-Katan's clan or successor becomes) or one of those elected monarchies that old societies experimented with. They are a society that has witnessed a lot of anarchy brought upon by the clan system and the aftermath of the great purge. This would typically make a society more inclined to seek security rather than freedom. The Empire for them was a foreign problem, brought upon them by the failings of democracy/republicanism, so it's possible they won't make the same connections of central rule equals tyranny that the members of the Alliance or former citizens of the Empire would come to. Tyranny to them has either been at the hands of a foreigner (the Republic, Empire, or neighboring systems) or clan leadership. Thus it would make sense they would want to select a strong warrior to fight off the whims of the foreigner and contain rogue clans that will inevitably spring up. This could depend of course how much anxiety there exists of the other clans. Though considering the efforts of the Empire to dismantle and destroy them resulting very mixed groups, clan domination is likely not a major concern. There will be pushback of course to central rule (especially as outside clans join) and if the central leader is weak enough, or just doesn't care to rule by decree, a republic could form. A society where elected reps or clan heads handle domestic policy but a strong central leader handles the foreign problems.
@CoryConti1 Жыл бұрын
I think your analysis of this particular topic is spot on. I concur about the importance of Bo-Katan and Din Djarin
@SpaceCaseZ06 Жыл бұрын
The set up is for Din Djarin to go a separate path. What would be the point if Grogu is reunited with Bo Katan midway into the Ahsoka series
@isaackim7675 Жыл бұрын
I am curious to know if the Mandalorians will make an alliance to the New Republic? Given to how we saw Fang fighters as part of the Citizen Fleet in the sequel trilogy? Mandalorians would have a better chance in surviving by making powerful allies
@LordOceanus Жыл бұрын
Calling the New Republic a powerful ally feels a bit too generous at this point but I get what you are saying. Mutual recognition and the signing of trade and diplomatic agreements to create formal relations is very likely but Mandalore will never bend the knee to the New Republic.
@kanekikingstorm2113 Жыл бұрын
@@LordOceanus espcially in canon, since it was the republic that led a preemptive strike on Mandalore, reducing it to the domed cities we saw in TCW, Mandalore would be better off making alliances with other free worlds in its near by sectors
@asmkalrizion7078 Жыл бұрын
I imagine they'll be forming their own independent state, especially with thwir allies being other systems that are being neglected by the New Republic they can form their own union of systems rather than joining the New Republic, and doing so would probably also keep them off the First Order's radar
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
@@kanekikingstorm2113 Actually, that’s in Legends. Canon has the cataclysm take place during the Mandalorian Crusades. It doesn’t specify whether the Jedi are responsible or if the Mandalorians tried something desperate, just that the Jedi won. And besides, this is the New Republic, not the Old Republic. Not to mention the predecessor to the New Republic, the Rebellion, did back up the Mandalorians before the Battle of Scarif. And even the Galactic Republic respected the treaty with Mandalore until Bo-Katan requested for their help to defeat Maul, a tyrant and Sith Lord. And the Jedi aren’t even associated with the New Republic. And the New Republic doesn’t even have a reason to be hostile to the Mandalorians since they don’t even intervene against pirates or Imperial Remnants, and the Mandalorians killed Gideon and took down his remnant. At worst, they should just be neighbors who never interact. I see no reason for any hard feelings to get in the way of diplomatic relations.
@G36645 Жыл бұрын
Anyone up for just making the sequels a j.j universe
@pokemaster5461 Жыл бұрын
My ideas is that they have a Council made of one or two members from each faction or tribe with one Neutral Mandalor as the Council Head.
@keenirr5332 Жыл бұрын
An interesting idea...though, as with any system of government, how to ensure the Mandalor(e) stays neutral?
@Alex-yf4ziАй бұрын
@@keenirr5332 as dump as im about to Sound hear me out, Someone like maul would be perfect not because he is a force user but because he is from the outside, if the leader of mandalore has no ties to the Planet and the different groups it means they would be neutral
@keenirr5332Ай бұрын
@@Alex-yf4zi hmm...an interesting idea, and certainly a reasonable argument; It might work, provided two conditions are met: Maul isn't trying to get revenge on anyone (Kenobi or Sidious)...and that nobody will target Mandalore because Maul is there (again, Palpatine) thank you!
@boperadotto8703 Жыл бұрын
I think they would be uniquely well-suited for intermittent and/or mandatory military service, perhaps even in place of the Protectors. Very little training would be necessary. A system that forces constant intermingling and cooperation between the clans may be their best bet at averting infighting.
@The_Smith Жыл бұрын
The more of your videos I watch, the more impressed I am, good job.
@117Jorn Жыл бұрын
My thoughts? Citizens Republic ala Starship Troopers. Civilian Mando’s can be all pacifist, while True Mando’s can vote and serve in the Mandalorian Defense Forces.
@MR.LMR1996 Жыл бұрын
Service guarantees Citizenship. Tbh it's an improvement to the Absolute Monarchy that the New Mandalorians had under Satine.
@DMSProduktions Жыл бұрын
@@MR.LMR1996 WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
@meeponinthbit3466 Жыл бұрын
As satirical as that movie tried to be, I found it to be a very compelling argument. Rasczak's civics lesson had some strong points. We need permits for building, licenses to drive, why not a system to earn the right to vote. It would of course need constitutional guarantees to ensure civilians are protected and that they have a clear and uniformly fair path to citizenship, but seems logical to me. Clearly what we (USA) currently have isn't working.
@hellfish2309 Жыл бұрын
The only good Sith is a dead Sith… Obi Wan: you absolutely sure about that?
@streamer9923 Жыл бұрын
@@MR.LMR1996 ore better, service garanties beskar. with only those that work with the state direkly geting first pick on the best beskar armor
@darthwitchakorn1027 Жыл бұрын
You get something wrong. The protectors live on Concord Dawn, not Concordia.
@ConradsStudio Жыл бұрын
Obviously, an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as sort of executive officer for the week.
@rorymoore9269 Жыл бұрын
Monty Python?
@akramgimmini8165 Жыл бұрын
Constitutional/Parliamentary Monarchy maybe A lá Clone Wars Mandalore
@TK199999 Жыл бұрын
It also would help if a Mandalorian constitution was created that set up Clan's and Houses with special status or protections. In exchange for support for a representative government, especially if Mandalor had a House Lords (aka House of Clans) and House of Commons. It would be a difficult balancing act, but I think they could achieve a functional if highly conservative representative government, with power sharing between the Clans and individual Citizens.
@ronaldsmith6829 Жыл бұрын
Excellent idea! Only in this case set up the two 'houses' of their parliament as equals. Similar to the Bicameral system in the US. That way, the Clan leaders will have their say, and the people can also. Whomever is The Mandalore would be the executive. If they divided the powers and privileges it would also provide strength to the system. It would provide strength because all three branches would have to cooperate with each other to function.
@lerneanlion Жыл бұрын
So Alan, what you're suggesting is that the Mandalorians somehow reorganized themselves as something similar to the Cossack Hetmanate after it broke away from the Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania but before it got absorbed into the Russian Empire? By doing so, the Mandalorians will be able to maintain their lifestyle as a frontier society while also being democratic at the same time. If that is the case, is it wrong for to start comparing the Mandalorians to the Cossacks? I asked this because I've been comparing them for the Mongols and Vikings ever since like forever. But more importantly, the noble houses of Mandalore can remained existing as landlords as long as they remained loyal to the leader of Mandalore while the political powers rested in something similar to the General Cossack Military Council that was presided over by the Hetman. What do you think, Alan? Will the system used by the Cossacks will worked for the Mandalorians as well? Also, I'm glad you finally addressed the problem about majoritarian democracy can easily led to tyranny of the people.
@justicedunham4088 Жыл бұрын
Size is an issue that the US is having right now. When the country was founded, a representative was chosen by around 13,000 people. Now, each one represents over 900,000. If we had the same ratio, we would need around 25,500 representatives in the federal house and our Congress would look like the Corusant Senate
@ericvulgate Жыл бұрын
DEW IT
@royd.4629 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved it! Completely disagree on their government type. They will most likely have a monarchy in a semi feudal system. The different houses and clans will produce their own "king" by their methods of choice, those "kings" will elect a high king to rein for a time. When the high king dies, a moot it called to elect a new high king. Could technically be anyone but typically from their own ranks. A similar system to the Vatican and how the pope is elected. The high king could have the authority to establish a new king based on the development of a new clan or house. Also, a king could challenge a high king for title of high king. Mandos have a diverse set of ideals and cultures revolving around war and extreme violence. This system would allow for all of the things that they hold dear. Also, if Mando's are off world, they may still have representation based on the rules of their own clan/house.
@annscholl2066 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. I don't think the Mandos care about politics and political theory much, even the Armorer is very prudent in how she leads the tribe. Given the tribal nature, they could also form a type of direct democracy found in the tribal societies, such as the Althing of the vikings, which was already represented in the tribal decision to rescue Navarro from the pirate king. All can speak in an orderly fashion. Or the majlis system of the bedouin tribes, which still plays significant roles in the GCC states and some central Asian countries. The families hold majlis to discuss family matters and to consult on things the family leaders will raise with the tribe, the tribal ones are consultative with the sheikh and so forth. The Scottish Clans had a similar-ish system. In the courts of Andalous, Toledo and other parts of Spain, they also had the "Philosopher's Court" in which the academics were advisors to the King. No votes are taken in these, instead hoping to get consensus or reluctant acquiescence to a decision. I think that could be scaled up with a series of local Althing meetings informing the tribal leaders' representative Althing and academic and trade guilds having some say on things like the content of the alloy.
@GAndreC Жыл бұрын
A clan democracy system does seem to be the most rational way to administer their situation. A direct democracy would be just as much a failure as electoral college or a similar approach. Barring that something else that uses the prevailing clan structure to allow for clans to self regulate while also recognizing the authority of a supreme ruler but with a strong council structure so they can go from ruler to ruler without things falling apart. But something as ridiculous as trying to make everyone live by a strict same set of laws when they don’t live by the same values is geared towards violent internal strive and don’t expect nobody to agree on voting to give up their property just because a council stated they should not be allowed to own it
@annscholl2066 Жыл бұрын
@@GAndreC I agree to to some extent, but attempts to quickly overlay a parliamentary or elected political body on a tribal society also fails. Bo needs to build from the tribal groups, not replace them.. E.g., most of the Arab Spring uprisings or others with governments in constant upheaval are ones with parliaments, "elected" presidents or a imposed aristocratic leader that attempts to ignore tribal power. I do think they would need a council of some sort. I think the failures of the tribal are also when the leader is selected only based on inherited aristocratic systems -which is what the New Mandalorians introduced and is not recognized by the Children of the Watch. Also, knowing that Daddy Palps arose from elected body and the dysfunction of the Republic, I don't think that's the government Bo would want to introduce anything like it. Also, not necessarily draconian laws that would be enforced by the tribe(s).
@seandilallo8718 Жыл бұрын
It should be an absolute monarchy where rulership is given to the strongest. Disagreements should be resolved by fights to the death.
@shawngiver5570 Жыл бұрын
I want them to form an alliance with nevarro and the planet with Lizzo. In the book bloodlines ryloth is metiiend to be independent as well.
@alexcheetah79 Жыл бұрын
I like that these videos start off about Star Wars but elaborate into aspects about culture and society.
@Leftyotism Жыл бұрын
5:57 Yes! Yes! Yes!
@BlackTemplar_Legionary1392 Жыл бұрын
My opinion is that the Mandalorians should be Constitutional Monarchy like the United Kingdom. As it did work for the Mandalorians in the Clone wars under Duchess Satine.
@shadeblackwolf1508 Жыл бұрын
I think what's best for Mandelore is a council representing each major faction, with a Leader at the top who acts as a unifying symbol in peace time, and nor much more, but is also the one pair of hands that controls the sword that is Mandelore in wartime, to avoid the kind of infighting that doomed both the Empire and the Republic. Factions would be free to pick their own leaders.
@fumarc4501 Жыл бұрын
“It’s also when the Chaos demons first began making forays from the unholy norther wastes, otherwise known as Canadia.” Lmao
@Matongo1 Жыл бұрын
I just feel that they will lose again. Mandalorians are not meant to be united.
@chocomalk Жыл бұрын
Hopefully a voluntarism type of government.
@joshbull623 Жыл бұрын
I think it is well established that a republic where all actions must be voted upon by hundreds, if not thousands of different parties after careful discussion and deliberation to start the process of law and policy is best. Also, to avoid tyranny, there shouldn't be any kind of military or intelligence organization and only the most limited and basic law enforcement presence should be had who would mostly just be there to protect the representatives more than anything else.
@mondaysinsanity8193 Жыл бұрын
Sarcasm?
@joshbull623 Жыл бұрын
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Maybe. Then again, technically, the Republic is still around and their oppositions of governance from the various Empires of the Sith to the CIS are not.
@SpottedHares Жыл бұрын
I feel were also ignoring the elephant in the room, the group of Mandalore that no one seems to talk about have been forgotten yet reaming a massive issue going forward. The new Mandlorains? I'm guessing were supposed to assume they were all killed during the long night, lack of beskar armor? We've never gotten a complete answer to their fate, they the largest group pre empire. Lets not forget the despite making jokes about how vulnerable they made them selves they won the civil war for Mandlore, they defeated the traditional Mandlorians. How do you rebuild a society when the one trying to rebuild it are the ones that screwed over your largest demographic to begin with.
@MatthewLawrence. Жыл бұрын
Man held back zero punches while talking about the CCP. Mad respect
@arthurbriand2175 Жыл бұрын
No matter what happens, the different groups that come will not integrate into a Mandalorian nation right away. Mandalore has always functionned on large familial clans, those have been divided by ideological and religious struggle. The new tribes will be around the different groups as they formed during the exiles. The children of the watch, the Bo Kattan faction, the "natives" that stayed and survived will not mix. They won't fight but there will be a "us vs them" way of thinking for at least a generation. Those structures should be used to ground the government structure. Those are already efficient, working social groups. Bo Kattan will probably assign a task or area to every group with the objective to devellop but a lot of internal autonomy. She essentially has to settle disputes between groups and conduct foreign policy. This tribal confederation around a respected leader could work and avoid the inevitable frictions of assimilation.
@Whyalwaysm3 Жыл бұрын
I want an animated series where it revolves around the rebuilding of Mandalore. The search for other mandalorians. Their diplomacy with other planets in their system and the outer rim.
@FlymanMS Жыл бұрын
Okay this is very topical joke but Mandocracy sounds really funny and a bit inappropriate in Russian cause of one word that sounds similar to “mando” but has very different meaning. Let’s see how many people get it.
@ThatRatBastard Жыл бұрын
They were a Monarchy before and the Children kinda became the defenders of Navarro, my assumption is that they'll essentially become a semi-feudal monarchy in space maybe with some constitutional rules in place. That makes the most sense to me considering that the Crown Princess reclaimed the planet and is already in charge. It makes sense that she'd simply crown herself as the new Duchess of Mandalore.
@analerma3837 Жыл бұрын
9:38 a senti ya right remember what happened last time
@darthnihilusthebestsith Жыл бұрын
Protectors swore to the Mandalore, but that's not being tied to partisan politics, because the Mandalore is not a politician, they are a sovereign and as such they are above all factions. You don't have this role in the USA, but it's similar to an early modern King or a modern day Italian President
@jacobhuff3748 Жыл бұрын
A republic with a representative democratic process would be my bet. It's still an inefficient system but the inefficiency is a feature that makes singular control difficult and more importantly foster cooperation (albeit difficult) between different factions. My question is how would they organize their military? So many different militias with different tactics, strategies and equipment working will cause problems. I could see a volunteer system set up for a military that would retrain various mandalorians for service but it will be difficult since retraining a soldier is more difficult than training someone to be a soldier. Then there's the issue of policing they already have a group with the foundation for policing but they'll need to expand it and scale it up which means making changes to institutional organization. I just hope that libertarian Mando's will help resolve conflicts,😅.
@olgak.1139 Жыл бұрын
Direct Democracy developed at ancient Athens,late 6th century BC. It could be efficient only because of the small amount of citizens that could vote at agora, only free and true Athenians from both father and mother incide the territory of Attica. Back then the type of government at the other Greek City States was varied; Democracy, or Oligarchy, or Tyranny , or Kingdom . Ancient Sparta was governed by 2 kings ,5 ephors and the Apella. For me the Mandalorians are inspired mostly from the Spartans. Ancient Spartans were legendary for their hard training, their dedication, obligation to the laws ,their traditions and the use of the briefest sentences to express themselves.
@RoderickGMacLeod Жыл бұрын
They're going to need outside contractors and terraforming. That will mean long term guest workers. What rights and responsibilities will they have?
@Clone683 Жыл бұрын
Bo Katan: "I am the ruler of Mandalore" Mandalorian: "I didnt know we had a ruler, I thought we were an autonomous collective"
@asmkalrizion7078 Жыл бұрын
Technically mandalorians have always had the Mandalor who is the ruler, but recent events have shown that a single leader tends to burn their civilization so its possible Bo Katan will just act as a custodian to set up their new system rather than being the new ruler
@keenirr5332 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, its probably been a very hollow title, at least for that period of time the Mandlorians thought their homeworld was uninhabitable.
@rexlevitak1 Жыл бұрын
To quote the Great One “Ankh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as One Man, One Vote. The Patrician was the Man; he had the Vote. Terry Pratchett, Mort “ I am guessing Mandalore will end like this as well
@MaynardCrow Жыл бұрын
Even though we disagree on many things, hearing you shit on chairman Mao makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside like I ate a flaming Ewok. Keep doing you bro.
@mikegould6590 Жыл бұрын
As a "Northern demon from Canadia", we wouldn't have crossed the 45th parallel if certain American generals didn't decide to try and annex Canada The price? Beered up Nova Scotians burned down the original White House (which was grey at the time) and a mixed force of Brits and indigenous troops captured Detroit by firing one cannon shot through the mayor's window. All We want is cold beer, hockey playoffs and socialized medicine. Endanger that and we do things like that, shooting down the red Baron, killing the Black Baron, rescue hostages in Iran, win sniper competitions and basically do 10% of the world's peace keeping with less than 1% of the population. This is the Way, Eh?
@kamirostorino9416 Жыл бұрын
As a Half-Pole/Half-Brit i say this is absolutely the way.
@Mr._Galaxywide Жыл бұрын
What do you think the relationship between Boba Fett's Tatooine and Bo-Katan's Mandalore would be? Would the more zealous mandalorions want him dead for (In their eyes) being an impostor? Or will Din's and Boba's relationship make them potential allies?
@LordOceanus Жыл бұрын
Considering they are on opposite sides of the galaxy I doubt there would me much in the way of formal cooperation but there would likely be treaties establishing trade relations. Navarro is however very close to Mandalore and I can definitely see them joining a broader Mandalorian state at least in terms of a military alliance.
@Mr._Galaxywide Жыл бұрын
@@LordOceanus Part of me wonders If Bo will follow in her sister's foot steps and create a alliance of neutral systems.
@arthurbriand2175 Жыл бұрын
What did the Galaxy know during the New Republic about the Siths ? Did Luke ever tell them they were the victim of a millenias old religious war?
@darthskarr8975 Жыл бұрын
The galaxy was informed of it in the EU.
@AceSpadeThePikachu Жыл бұрын
Heralding from the land of "Canadia" here... Something that OUR democracy has that actually helps keep partisan politics from getting too out of hand is more than two parties. We have the conservatives, which is our more right-wing leaning party, we have the Liberals, who are centrist-left, and then we have the NDP who are VERY progressive and pacifist (they're the ones I always vote for.) We also have the Green Party, which is just the NDP but more focused on environmental issues. While the NDP and Greens have never won at the federal level (yet,) they both always get enough votes to have seats in the house of commons, and thus are able to keep the Conservatives and Liberals on task. Whenever the Prime Minister or the opposition is about to do or say something really brash, the NDP are always the fist to step in and reason things out.
@cris_j Жыл бұрын
I don't know enough about different political models to comment, but kudos to your editor for the crazy artwork used in this video. What a show!
@DannyPageOfLight Жыл бұрын
There's something I'm curious about your thoughts on. At the beginning of "The Apostate" when the Armorer is swearing Ragnar into the Creed, the ritual words she has him repeat included the promise to never remove his helmet. At the end of "The Return" when Ragnar gets a complete swearing in in the living waters, the Armorer does the ceremony exactly as she did in the first episode of the season, but the line of promising to never remove the helmet is conspicuously absent. Do you think this means anything on a grander scale or nah?
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, well they need a committee to track giant beasts in their planet to debate how to slay it and adopt its children, what happened to the cute bat things?
@maxhauner3124 Жыл бұрын
nice video
@hungtheheroluu Жыл бұрын
Hello there!
@capitanones9447 Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the planet Mandalore should have a government for people who’d like to live on the planet, but being a Mandalorian isn’t being a specific race but a creed to follow so much so that it’s almost a theological government in itself
@MrRonald327 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’ll be a constitutional democracy with a council.
@brucwayn6403 Жыл бұрын
Great video i enjoy these
@xXScissorHandsXx Жыл бұрын
Best mix of Star Wars and real life take aways on the platform 👌 Prof Alan we trust and in Baby Grogurt, Holy Be Thy Name.
@irishdc95238 ай бұрын
Maybe something like the European Union in terms of where authority comes from. It's a combination of a confederation and a federation since no law can pass without the consensus of the member-states, but there's still a centralised authority to enforce the law when needed. In the case of Mandalore, laws need a consensus of the clans or houses to pass, then once they're in place, a Mandalorian government can enforce them
@Carsisir Жыл бұрын
So my thoughts on what to replace the Protectors of Mandalore with is the Children of the Watch, they are a fairly orthodox group that keeps the traditional beliefs but smaller in number. Any member that wishes to take position in the executive branch would be required to remove their helmet, forcing them out of the Children of the Watch. Since their focus is on maintaining the Creed, they would serve as a check on the Executive. They would have a non-voting position in whatever clan council/senate legislative body is formed.
@nickvinsable3798 Жыл бұрын
🤔 . . . I honestly believe that a Representative Meritocracy, a specific style of a Representative Democracy, could be put in place. Each Clan Member is worth ONE Vote, thus each Clan Leader, much like a political party leader, has one vote for every member, including themselves. During conflict(s), they hold that same number of votes, even if their clan member is dead because their member put their trust in their fellow member(s), especially their leader. However, when its unanimously decided that they need to recount their clan members (preferably when the conflict(s) in question is over), they’ll do so. And I seriously do hope that they’ll likely adopt pretty much the same stance that Switzerland did in the two world wars, except its 24/7ish; a continuous non-conquest warrior culture that won’t be so easily swayed &, by the time the First Order comes to the scene, they’ll be heavily damaged, they’ll be black-eyed, bloodied nosed, & no teeth because the Mandalorians punched the First Order’s face in that hard . . . 🤷♂️ (think of it as waking a hibernating bear, or a sleeping giant, but doesn’t pursue you too far)…
@aprotosis Жыл бұрын
Rather than a meritocracy, I think their culture is more suited to a technocracy. They value subject matter experts, with the knowledge and skill to make the proper decisions. A meritocracy would allow people to get into positions of power because they are better orators or rewarded merit for mundane and political reasons. Like when that co-worker gets rewards for trumped up participation you know is bull crap. (No, I am not bitter...)
@nyxknight7555 Жыл бұрын
Poor Steve. You will be missed. This is the way.
@keenirr5332 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Mandalorians should return to having a magocracy? You know, rule by {space} wizards...like Mandalore The Great.
@j.a.svoboda9805 Жыл бұрын
I imagine that the Children of the Watch can form the backbone of a branch of government that have a psudo-religious adherence to "the way" (the law). Where there may be a standing army or militia but it remains separate from those dedicated to the law.
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
0:20 “Mandalorians” are not yet unified. By the end of The Mandalorian season 3 only two pretty small factions of Mandos.
@Onyx-nv9uz Жыл бұрын
a type of monarchy with a royal court/council with members from different clans and ideologies could work.
@Shatterwings060 Жыл бұрын
Hm, personally I in my opinion think the best way forward is to just allow the many differing subgroups to simply choose which the previous codes to follow instead of making some new fangle thing that'll please no one in the end.
@jaydeister9305 Жыл бұрын
MY CONTENTION ALWAYS WAS, that the jedi order/knights were just a private security company, hired by the republic, because that was cheaper than having standing armies to resolve disputes/conflict. but also, the jedi order folks were originally just a group of magicians(capes, cloaks, hand waving, fancy swords, medieval aura, secret words), that the the republic was entertained with. so the jedi knights did white magic.... LATER ON, SOME OTHER FOLKS, those sith lord guys, they were into black magic, and that's were the republic needed help....
@haroldsaxe591 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, The Mando's are basically dwarves now. They live underground, and are known for their Mines and smiting
@Munce72 Жыл бұрын
I love the "Pride, Predudice & Zombies" reference!! Scooby snacks for you Allen. My allegiance is to the Repubic and Democracy!!
@MrJlin1982 Жыл бұрын
They where on Concord Dawn (the protectors), not on Concordia, that is the moon of Death Watch and later of The Children of the Watch!
@dragonate9906 Жыл бұрын
Can we get the battle tactics analysis series back for the battle of Mandalor in S ep 7/8
@OllamhDrab Жыл бұрын
Well, Mandalore reminds me a lot of certain Celtic societies, and a form of sorta meta-tribal governance called Tanaistry, you've got your chiefs and their seconds, sometimes 'High Kings' trying to unite the clans, people following war leaders by acclamation, etc, (A smith as a sort of a mystic and spiritual advisor is also really right out of Celtic myth,' etc. Might help to look at it that way.
@KaironQD Жыл бұрын
Hmmm would a "Starship Troopers" style militaristic Federalism suit Mandalore? Basically: 1. Any Mandalorian who wants to vote or run government needs to have served a tour of duty in National Defense. 2. Any Mandalorian who wants to be in government has to swear to The Creed that is the spritual foundation of Mandalorian social virtue.
@debbralehrman5957 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻
@The10thManRules Жыл бұрын
I hear that Bernie has been in talks with a senior representative from Mandalore.
@joeybavis Жыл бұрын
i love the video, definitely think it will be interesting to see if they have some form of government given i hear there's a Mando season four in progress but i would prefer if you keep Canada jokes out of it. being Canadian myself i don't exactly appreciate it.
@SungJaeUng3 Жыл бұрын
Okay, genuine question; have you ever looked in to what was being referred to as "religious persecution," because the reality was much different than not being allowed to practice their religion. They wanted the authority to make laws that reflected THEIR interpretation of the bible, that would supersede british laws. Remember that the first thing they did when they got here was plunder native american burial sites. Then, not long after establishing their settlements and getting to govern the way they saw fit, the next thing the other colonies heard from them was that they had been conducting "witch trials" by torturing and executing people. One guy they stacked stones on top of him over the course of several days until he was crushed to death. Why? For refuting the claim that his wife was a witch. And of course, his wife was also executed. So, why the wording in the constitution states "congress shall make no law respecting religion." The worry was less that a government would come along and ban christianity, and more that some hyper-religious populist movement would come to power and do something equally as insane as what had happened in Salem. Most other christians of their day thought what happened in salem was nuts.
@matthewmahler9212 Жыл бұрын
They should probably adopt a system similar to the Haudenosaunee
@Senovitj Жыл бұрын
A representive council made up of leaders from the different houses/clans with Bo-Katan as the leader/president. The Armourer could be like the Speaker of the House or a religious leader.
@rickyaustin7835 Жыл бұрын
I would think that taking a King Arthur round table approach would be wise.
@wedgeantillies66 Жыл бұрын
Think a constitutional monarchy with Bo katan at its head and a parliament with lords house comprised of clan leaders and lower houses of elected representatives could suit Mandelore well if they go down route of democracy, continuing legacy of new mandelorians and don't simply return to the old ways of absolute or autocratic monarchy.
@RaoulKunz1 Жыл бұрын
Based on Mandalorian society, martial traditions and history they would be pretty likely to end up once more in some sort of meritocratic constitutional monarchy with a strong tendency towards a "Prussia-like" domination of the military values and personnel in leadership roles. Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
@turb00o Жыл бұрын
Taking bets until the next fall of manadalore.
@danielpoirier868 Жыл бұрын
You know, perhaps the Mandalorians could develop a system similar to the Swiss; which is a hybrid between an direct democracy and a representative democracy. Though it should be mentioned that the swiss prioritize educating the populace as much as possible to avoid some of the pitfalls of a direct democracy. Also, the Swiss and the Mandalorians are comparable it many ways: -Both have a trained populous and militia -Both have a rich culture -Both are multiracial societies (the swiss can't agree on whether french, Italian, or germen should be there official language) -Both have a history of mercenary work and warfare before going into a state of neutrality (something the swiss did a better job at and are still doing today) Its of course more complicated then what I wrote, but I do think that we can look at the swiss system to see where the Mandalorian people could go.
@devonmangiarelli3886 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion It'll be one of those types of Goverments Where Grogu is Riding the Mythosaur and what ever he thinks goes
@valhoundmom Жыл бұрын
Well, Mandalorians tended to not be too interested in highly centralized government they sort if self government in clans and look to a Mand'Alor for big things that effect them as a whole. You can see with the helmet on/ helmet optional distinct groups. They probably don't do well with tight centralized governance with bearcracy. They aren't passive or sedentary. They think just fine and they often function in small groups or as loners. So probably something like the way Northern European clans functioned prior to the Romans bringing red tape.
@vakuzar Жыл бұрын
Oh this is easy, a Senate where each major house gets one representative, with the mandator as the chancellor.
@MisterBloo42 Жыл бұрын
Allan I thoroughly enjoy your content but my biggest gripe still continues: Americanocentrism
@bb9a Жыл бұрын
Why is it americocentric?
@IslamistSocialist371 Жыл бұрын
More like anti communistic, my favorite😊
@laughingowl7896 Жыл бұрын
A corpratocracy is much easier. They're heirarchical by nature. Gordon R. Dickson's Dorsai series is, I still believe, the best model for the Mando's. The only questioning is, who is Donel Graeme?
@dennisw.truman3325 Жыл бұрын
Good morning! Have a great day! 🎚️🇺🇸🪖👮♂️
@mollytaylor2122 Жыл бұрын
Bo will need a very clear successor, cuz groups love breaking up over succession crises.