What Was Actually in Hamas’ Ceasefire Proposal?

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0:00 Intro
1:04 The Ceasefire Deal
3:48 Israel’s dilemma
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@JCNL871
@JCNL871 Ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia is in no position to criticise Israel after turning Yemen into a graveyard
@edwardspain2881
@edwardspain2881 Ай бұрын
The Houthi terrorist organization is still operational out of Yemen
@coaldoubt2879
@coaldoubt2879 Ай бұрын
and the US*
@benji-pj4dp
@benji-pj4dp Ай бұрын
In the hundreds of thousands including 80000 children staved according to help the children. Muslim world silent tho
@harlowida
@harlowida Ай бұрын
What Saudis did is 0.001% of what Israelis are doing. Of course both backed by the US
@jazminew38
@jazminew38 Ай бұрын
US, UK, IS, France, Germany, Saudi, UAE, Jordan and Bahrain ALL Z controlled and paid for by Z whether Christian, Jewish or Arab Z. All are Evil. Evil can never win! #FreePalestine #FreeUSfromIsrael #FreeTheWorldfromIsrael
@robertb6889
@robertb6889 Ай бұрын
"You surrender - and we might give you some of your hostages back alive." Who the hell would accept that.
@kingeddiam2543
@kingeddiam2543 Ай бұрын
If Israel actually cared about civilian lives then they would've agreed.
@HimekoSanity
@HimekoSanity Ай бұрын
​@@kingeddiam2543Do you know the word surrender? Surrending a war means accepting defeat. Theres no way Hamas would rule Israel government and abuse the people
@StevieFQ
@StevieFQ Ай бұрын
Dumbest statement i heard all day. If israel cared about civilians they would have built a system to prevent destruction by a malevolent outside force. Something like the patriot system, you know, the one that was developed a decade before the iron dome system. Now if hamas cared about the lives of civilians they would have not attacked a music festival. Or better yet, they wouldn’t us their own civilians as human shields. But that would be crazy, if the innocent civilians weren’t there to take the hit who would raid the next music festival?
@kingeddiam2543
@kingeddiam2543 Ай бұрын
@@StevieFQ yeah you mean the system that let's an AI decide if the civilian casualties caused by a missile is enough for it to be worthwhile to shoot down? Literally placing a monetary value on human life? And I'm not trying to argue in favour of hamas, but arguing that hamas is worse than the IDF is ridiculous imo. Read any testimonial by the thousands of Palestinian hostages the IDF have taken and you'll see what I mean
@amineboum9493
@amineboum9493 Ай бұрын
yeah , w8 until you hear what the zionists deal is abt
@lynox172
@lynox172 Ай бұрын
Bruh that’s the worst deal I’ve ever heard and I’m German and read Versailles.
@hankjones3527
@hankjones3527 Ай бұрын
😅 Fair comeback.
@matthewshapiro6870
@matthewshapiro6870 Ай бұрын
fantastic comment
@lrmry
@lrmry Ай бұрын
😂
@f-86zoomer37
@f-86zoomer37 Ай бұрын
But you started WW1 destroyed all of Belgium and half of France, and then you lost, so literally any terms that weren't unconditional surrender were fair play. Don't start wars you can't win is the moral of history. Far worse has happened to entire countries that were aggressors and then lost.
@hankjones3527
@hankjones3527 Ай бұрын
@f-86zoomer37 A great speech but ignores the fact most countries in Europe have at one stage gone on a conquest bender. Some successfully, others not so. The only difference with WW1 was that industrialisation of warfare had taken everyone by surprise.
@miguellopes7627
@miguellopes7627 Ай бұрын
Equating living hostages to corpses of hostages is ridiculous, on the other hand is the idea of moving thousands of people to one corner of Gaza as the other is bombed, over and over again expected to be doable?
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Ай бұрын
It’s about gaining control over the region. The only region Hamas has control is rafah.
@MichuKutty-bc1yl
@MichuKutty-bc1yl Ай бұрын
There is no hostages in Israel.
@Booz2020
@Booz2020 Ай бұрын
TAIWANESE Lives Matter 🇹🇼💯👀
@miguellopes7627
@miguellopes7627 Ай бұрын
@@MichuKutty-bc1yl I was referring to Hamas' hostages, and their proposal of giving back corpses if they can't find the 30 hostages
@veeaxis3892
@veeaxis3892 Ай бұрын
Moving every Gazan into Israel is a huge security risk and explains the 2005 withdrawal in the first place, and Egypt has essentially closed their border. Ending the war prematurely, letting Hamas remain in power after October 7th is unthinkable. Israel has little choice but to instruct civilians to move to safe areas within Gaza, unless anyone has a better suggestion.
@redinblood
@redinblood Ай бұрын
Differences between the Israeli proposal and Hamas's proposal: - In Hamas's proposal, they do not commit in the first stage to release only living hostages, as Israel demanded, but it is noted that in the first stage, 33 hostages will be released - "alive or bodies," according to the criteria that meet humanitarian release. - Hamas wants to release 3 hostages every week, Israel wanted 3 hostages every three days. - The proposal states that the bodies will be delivered as a completion to the number 33. In Israel, they want the third stage of the deal to include returning bodies, and in the first two stages, only living hostages will be returned. - Different keys for the release of prisoners (30 and not 20 for each hostage, 50 and not 40 for a female soldier) - Regarding the release key for female soldiers, Hamas wants 30 lifetime prisoners (plus 20 prisoners whose remaining imprisonment time is up to ten years), Israel is willing to release 20 lifetime prisoners (plus 20 prisoners whose remaining imprisonment time is another ten years) - In Hamas's proposal, there is no Israeli veto right over the names of the lifetime prisoners, nor an option for extradition outside of Gaza, as Israel demanded - There is an agreement that by the seventh day, Hamas will transfer a list of the hostages it holds, but the document Hamas agreed to includes the phrase 'as far as possible' - Difference in the timing of the military withdrawal from Rashid Axis: The Israeli proposal speaks of a week after implementing the deal, and at the end of releasing all women, the Hamas presentation speaks of three days after, and not dependent on the release of the women - Hamas's proposal includes a commitment to reach agreements regarding the prisoner release key for men - soldiers and civilians - by day 35 - Hamas's proposal includes a clause that defines that the temporary ceasefire (the cessation of military activity) will continue in phase B until a full agreement is reached. Hamas's proposal does not include a clause about the 'end of the war' in the first phase - Hamas's proposal includes the release of all prisoners who were re-arrested after being released in the Gilad Shalit deal. This is not mentioned in the Israeli document - Hamas's proposal includes the removal of restrictions on the conditions of prisoners in Israeli jail imposed following 7/10. This is not mentioned in the Israeli document - Israel and Hamas agree on evacuating wounded Hamas members for treatment outside the Gaza Strip - but do not agree on the number (Hamas wants at least 50 per day) and also on the timing of the implementation of the move (Hamas wants from the first day, Israel agreed after two weeks) - Israel demanded that as part of the rehabilitation, Hamas must not rebuild its military infrastructure, as well as the importation of materials for military use. This was removed from the Hamas proposal - Guarantors to the agreement - The Israeli proposal includes Qatar, Egypt, and the USA. The Hamas proposal also includes the UN, in addition to Qatar, Egypt, and the USA.
@kwiatw
@kwiatw Ай бұрын
If was representing Israel I wouldn't take this deal either. Terrible, biased, but not surprising, reporting from TLDR.
@redinblood
@redinblood Ай бұрын
@@kwiatw I don’t think it’s a question of take the deal or leave it. Hamas’s offer is bad for Israel for sure, and the government shouldn’t accept it as it is, but it’s a step in the negotiations. There are more stuff agreed upon then disagreed upon. True, the disagreements are on major issues, but that’s why there is still a negotiation table this should sit at, with or without military action in Rafah.
@sheacunning9208
@sheacunning9208 Ай бұрын
@@kwiatw It wouldn't be TLDR news if they weren't trying to paint israel in as bad news as possible. Also notice how their website feedback for bias always is mysteriously down everytime they release an israeli video. Almost as if we're allowed to point out bias on any story except Israeli stories.
@Serocco
@Serocco Ай бұрын
​@@redinbloodYou know what's worse for Israel? Lying to Egypt and the US about accepting the deal then saying no and invading Rafah anyway.
@rachaelik
@rachaelik Ай бұрын
​@@SeroccoYep. Nobody should ever believe Israel again.
@editorrbr2107
@editorrbr2107 Ай бұрын
Absolutely mental. No one would have accepted that “deal”
@sapwho
@sapwho Ай бұрын
Israel literally agreed to it earlier
@g-rexsaurus794
@g-rexsaurus794 Ай бұрын
@@sapwho Source?
@socialpast9924
@socialpast9924 Ай бұрын
@@g-rexsaurus794literally in this video
@amineboum9493
@amineboum9493 Ай бұрын
hamas cant accept other deals because they cant surrender to netanyahou claims , because if he destroys this resistance , he can take the rest og whats remaining (west bank0
@phiality9070
@phiality9070 Ай бұрын
​@@socialpast9924 except isreal never agreed, it was hamas who agreed but Israel rejected.
@TheGhostOf2020
@TheGhostOf2020 Ай бұрын
I nearly spit my drink out after hearing you say the first initial details of hamas’s proposal. The last 24 hours of the news cycle first seemed to imply that Hamas was agreeing to the proposal that was on the table and that Israel was walking away from it, then more reports on how it was a different agreement proposal that wasn’t even floated yet, and now hearing the specifics it’s hard to believe Hamas is being serious about diplomacy at all here. From a completely an objective standpoint the idea that one party would abandon all military gains and favorable positioning for a pinky promise of maybe releasing hostages piecemeal starting a month from now is absurd. Bilateral agreements are inherently built on proportional concessions and checks that incentivize both sides to hold their end of the agreement.
@zachweyrauch2988
@zachweyrauch2988 Ай бұрын
What's proportional to a hostage?
@Newidhan
@Newidhan Ай бұрын
@@zachweyrauch2988 apparently 20 imprisoned palestinians, anything from rock throwers to literal psychopathic murderers of whole families with a life-in-prison sentence
@mrmyth5846
@mrmyth5846 Ай бұрын
Well stated! And spot on.
@AttaBek1422
@AttaBek1422 Ай бұрын
Netanyahu: We want our hostages back Hamas: Here’s a deal to hand over the remaining hostages Netanyahu: Did I say hostages back? I actually meant destroying Hamas And lets not forget the Gaza settlement conferences his ministers keep attending…
@tjfirhfjejUTH24
@tjfirhfjejUTH24 Ай бұрын
@@AttaBek1422except it’s literally not the remaining hostages lol
@z0mb1e564
@z0mb1e564 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I can see why Hamas would agree to that deal. They only have to send back corpses but they get all their people back.
@meretricioussimp7759
@meretricioussimp7759 Ай бұрын
hamas doesnt really know how many hostages they have, and will have after the process. Hamas isnt a state, its in its current form a guarilla force, it really doesnt have the organizational and logistical capabilities of a state, their plan isnt to give 33 bodies, that wouldnt satisfy israel at all and nothing forces them to keep the ceasefire after that, its just a contingency to make sure israel cant back out if they come with 32 and the other is bombed on the way
@Physiker17
@Physiker17 Ай бұрын
Are you insinuating Hamas would kill the rest of the hostages and then send the corpses back?
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Ай бұрын
that is not the reason lol. The agreement stipulates the release of three hostages weekly. If one of the hostages is dead, the deal will be off. Think harder next time
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Ай бұрын
@@baiwuli6781 Its not. According to the "Deal" they can substitute hostages for corpses of hostages.
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Ай бұрын
@@rafalpilat4229 I dont see this part in the video, but if that is true, then yeah i can see why.
@ericcook7622
@ericcook7622 Ай бұрын
Hamas accepted a deal that wasn’t on the table.
@yorksfolly1255
@yorksfolly1255 Ай бұрын
It was a deal the USA brokerd
@archangel2633
@archangel2633 Ай бұрын
​@@yorksfolly1255 well that's what Hamas claimed...
@pyrolight7568
@pyrolight7568 Ай бұрын
@@yorksfolly1255 Which was not the original deal and was hot trash for Israel.
@bootypluderer
@bootypluderer Ай бұрын
@@archangel2633 That's what the US claimed not just Hamas
@truelies5431
@truelies5431 Ай бұрын
They were proposals by mediators and the US was one of those mediators.. the thing is if Natenyahu ends this war he's gonna be trailed by Israel for failing the country on oct the 7th and other corruption allegations... so invasion of rafah it is
@Apocalypse21OG
@Apocalypse21OG Ай бұрын
2:27 So what is stopping them from giving 33 corpses
@tempejkl
@tempejkl Ай бұрын
they’ll give all the living ones, and then the rest will be the dead.
@zaper2904
@zaper2904 Ай бұрын
Nothing and that's exactly what they were planning to do.
@Gluzil
@Gluzil Ай бұрын
@@immylon4608 why spread your bs like it is an elementry school's bathroom?
@thenamesianna
@thenamesianna Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering that
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Ай бұрын
2:10 because they gonna give 3 hostages per week 🤨
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 Ай бұрын
Could someone go over the differences between the Egyptian proposal that Israel accepted and the Egyptian proposal that Hamas accepted?
@gkbhai8962
@gkbhai8962 Ай бұрын
Hamas "accepted" a proposal that didnt exist.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Ай бұрын
​@@gkbhai8962 3:49
@vod96
@vod96 Ай бұрын
Thats the thing, its not publicly available - for some reason, we know exactly what Hamas wants, but no idea what Israel wants.
@PeskyWabb1t
@PeskyWabb1t Ай бұрын
egyot agreement leaves HAMAS in charge of Gaza. Israel has always maintained that regime change is part of their plan, so they arent going to agree to withdraw all their troops before that happens.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Ай бұрын
@@vod96Israel literally stated they want the hostages and Hamas lose control of Gaza so the Hamas attacks can stop.
@catgoot12
@catgoot12 Ай бұрын
That is an awful deal
@XAUCADTrader
@XAUCADTrader Ай бұрын
This dead or alive thing is a bit odd...
@andrewgutierrez4841
@andrewgutierrez4841 Ай бұрын
"It's unlikely Netanyahu understand it the same way" is certainly one way to put it
@jamesbambury
@jamesbambury Ай бұрын
I am sorry that was not a deal? That was a wishlist of everything hamass wants I am not shocked Israel did not agree.
@user-ym3ry2fc7n
@user-ym3ry2fc7n Ай бұрын
you cant brake a ceasefire 2 time in 2 months and then ask why no one agreeing to your ceasefire
@Dojafish
@Dojafish Ай бұрын
Are trying to side with the people who do fucking genocide? Literally Isreal won't agree with the ceasefire because they want Palestinians exterminated and all of the land for themselves.
@Sterren-ws6jc
@Sterren-ws6jc Ай бұрын
Imagine starting a war, losing it and then making demands while hinting at a fact that most, if not all, hostages are already dead.
@jakel8627
@jakel8627 Ай бұрын
They committed a massacre. Israel declared war.
@akramhaila4476
@akramhaila4476 Ай бұрын
Nice try fed
@Lusitano9514
@Lusitano9514 Ай бұрын
Israel in a nutshell
@alexeistrife56
@alexeistrife56 Ай бұрын
Yeah, just like the Native Americans when they started all those wars with America and they begged to be be allowed to live on their lands. Don't start wars you can't win, buddies.
@maxqazwsxedc1050
@maxqazwsxedc1050 Ай бұрын
I'm genuinely confused which side you're referring to
@_Helicam_
@_Helicam_ Ай бұрын
After negotiating with themself Hamas agreed to the deal they proposed.
@selecks6462
@selecks6462 Ай бұрын
That deal makes no sense to me, from all the way over here it doesn't look like hamas has much a position to make any demands
@zehavi111
@zehavi111 Ай бұрын
Apparently theu do because the west including TLDR shows their demands in a positive lights. The west is in a free fall
@theunholyburger9338
@theunholyburger9338 Ай бұрын
They basically want Israel to leave rebuild Gaza and pretend this never happened.
@001sander2
@001sander2 Ай бұрын
They have hundreds of Israeli prisoners. Those lives mean nothing to you huh.
@t34r
@t34r Ай бұрын
​@@001sander2 In a strategic sense, this hostages are irrelevant. Hamas could release them all tomorrow and the war would still continue. After all why should the Israelis let Hamas off the hook for some hostages when they could just remove the threat that took hostages in the first place.
@user_xsr
@user_xsr Ай бұрын
They do and they matters however they want prisoners to be released if im not mistaken. These are bo mb maker s, su i cide bombers and te rro rists which can create more and new attacks. It's a very difficult choice to make, what is ur take on that?​@@001sander2
@Ramschat
@Ramschat Ай бұрын
"This deal is a ruse meant to make it look like we rejected a deal and invaded instead of negotiating." *Rejects the deal and invades*
@samwinchester1326
@samwinchester1326 Ай бұрын
The deal was ablosute garbage why the heck should 30 israeli lives be worth one Palestinian live? Why should israrl accept such crazy demands when they are winning the war?
@Flipflopflopper
@Flipflopflopper 21 күн бұрын
They proposed a deal that was stupid and impossible
@JoeeyTheeKangaroo
@JoeeyTheeKangaroo Ай бұрын
I'm hearing a lot of 'Israel must do this' demands.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Ай бұрын
Israel is the occupier.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me Ай бұрын
@@deficrypto1234 Exactly, Israel has the strong hand here. Don't expect them to bend the knee to a foe with no territory left.
@yee2631
@yee2631 Ай бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me I'd expect them to at least follow international law and not illegally settle the West Bank while carrying out a genocide in Gaza.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Ай бұрын
@@deficrypto1234 there are no settlers i gaza. gazas self run, by hamas. but please explain to me how sexual assault by hamas helps the Palestine cause. Oh wait you just wat all the jews to be ethnically cleaned Israel genocide advocate.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Ай бұрын
@@yee2631 oh the genocide the UN said not happened?
@jamsheedranderia2897
@jamsheedranderia2897 Ай бұрын
What is funny is that hamas still thinks they can dictate terms after the conditions they are in😂
@beniu1305
@beniu1305 Ай бұрын
how the hell do they think they can dictate terms when their only still standing building is in qatar where the hamas leaders live
@aymenyahyaoui1771
@aymenyahyaoui1771 Ай бұрын
I mean you tell me who rules gaza and khan younes and forced the idf to retreat who still has the hostages by all mean we still have the hostages so yeah we can still dictate terms
@jamsheedranderia2897
@jamsheedranderia2897 Ай бұрын
@@aymenyahyaoui1771 retreat?😂😂😂😂 what war you looking at you like terror sympatyzer gaza is rubble
@PhilipLaSnail
@PhilipLaSnail Ай бұрын
@@aymenyahyaoui1771 I don't know how to tell you that in a serious way so I'll just read you the losses of each side in this war in the battle of khan younis for you to understand it better. Israel: 37 soldiers dead Hamas: 3,000~ terrorists dead when the numbers are 100x in your favor, you don't have a real reason to retreat but a diplomatic reason or a strategic reason. (These are the estimates of Hamas and Israel (both agree on it)
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Ай бұрын
They know well they cant dictate terms. They are proposing unrealistic terms on purpose, so they can say "We tried to make peace and Israel rejected." damaging Israels reputation on the world stage.
@georgeclarke2258
@georgeclarke2258 Ай бұрын
Hamas seems to be negotiating as though they are winning. It doesn’t work that way
@dVector13
@dVector13 Ай бұрын
You dont know how to negotiate, then.
@georgeclarke2258
@georgeclarke2258 Ай бұрын
@@dVector13 this isn’t a business deal simp
@12Metatron
@12Metatron Ай бұрын
​@dVector13 no usually the losing side has to make concessions. Otherwise the winning side could just continue and gain more than if they accepted
@doratar
@doratar Ай бұрын
The first phase of hostage releasing in the original deal was only live ones, and the deal Hamas approved say that the hostages released could either be dead, or alive, according to Hamas's choice- This is one of the biggest gap between the deals Also, the Hamas deal is forcing Israel to stop the war, which is obviously not possible if the target of the war is to defend Israel from another October 7th
@aa-cy7eb
@aa-cy7eb Ай бұрын
well hamas cant do a jesus move and resurrect the dead if israelis are killing them israelis proved to not care about israeli lives they didnt on oct 7th like 60% of 1200 were killed by israeli weaponry they care about one thing and its destruction of hamas and in long term establishing the greater israel which is every place that is named in bible that a jewish prophet walked on which looks like a global domination plan since its big chunk of trade routes can influence west and east complete huge percentage of world energy resources
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Ай бұрын
Lol, its not even a deal, just an egyptian proposal
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Ай бұрын
The conflict didnt start on October 7th. Furthermore, Israel killed 17k people in LEBANON. With ur reasoning, Lebanon should continue fighting to prevent that happening again. No one keeps fighting in a war to prevent casualties. If Arab armies can stop fighting after taking casualties, Israel can do the same. No double standards!
@person3231
@person3231 Ай бұрын
@@deficrypto1234 A previous ceasefire was broken on Oct 7th by Hamas, they declared war on Israel firing dozens of rockets and breaking their way into Israel, so yes, the conflict was started on Oct 7th.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Ай бұрын
@@person3231 Provide evidence of this pre-October 7th ceasefire please. Furthernore, Israel has a long history of breaking ceasefires. So, by your reasoning, Hamas can attack Israel when Israel breaks ceasefires, agree?
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Ай бұрын
The US and ISrael proposed a deal for months. Why didn't Hamas accept that? That would have released the hostages and there would have been a permanent ceasefire.
@aa-cy7eb
@aa-cy7eb Ай бұрын
cuz the permanent ceasefire was hamas proposal genius not the u.s and israeli one israeli proposal boils down to give us the hostages back and we give you few more moments to live
@ejt3708
@ejt3708 Ай бұрын
@@aa-cy7ebwow ur the genius i guess you luv death and torture
@4R53Hole
@4R53Hole Ай бұрын
Israel proposal was give hostages back and we will continue as we were. So... no.
@steinarnielsen8954
@steinarnielsen8954 Ай бұрын
A "permanent" ceasefire once again broken by Hamas.
@SuperJibulus
@SuperJibulus Ай бұрын
It’s quite simple to understand why Israel are attacking Rafah… because Hamas started attacking Israel from Rafah. Not hard to understand.
@haresmahmood
@haresmahmood Ай бұрын
That doesn't explain why the Israeli forces declared southern Gaza including Rafah a safe zone for civilians and forced millians of them to relocate there at the start of the war
@SuperJibulus
@SuperJibulus Ай бұрын
@@haresmahmood it was a safe zone. They weren’t being attacked from Rafah, they were focussing on where Hamas were. It’s almost as if Hamas deliberately stay close to civilian populations and hide behind them. They moved to Rafah along with the innocent people and then started attacking from there. They’re disgusting cowards and I hope Israel achieves its mission of wiping them out. They make children stand near their weaponry after its position is given away because if Israel attack that strategic position it’ll mean they can report the killing of children. Hamas also have soldiers below the age of 18. There is no such thing as a “child soldier” in the west, so when their deaths are reported they’re reported as if they’re innocent children.
@SuperJibulus
@SuperJibulus Ай бұрын
@@haresmahmood I responded but the KZfaq bot system removed my comment, maybe you can see it in a notification. No point in continuing the discussion if online censorship removes the comments.
@NivGeva
@NivGeva Ай бұрын
Because they wanted to start attacking the city of Gaza itself and its area where the Hamas headquarters were and many more stategic places. Now, most of Hamas brigades who are left stay in Rafah, and also many Hamas terrorists/fighters from other brigades evecuated to Rafah hiding between civilians, so Israel want to get there to keep eliminating Hamas.​@haresmahmood
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 Ай бұрын
​@@haresmahmoodit perfectly is doing that. To reach every part of gaza civilians need to move more than one time. Your welcome to explaining you logic.
@jamieconnor3505
@jamieconnor3505 Ай бұрын
Problem is, from Israel's POV, leaving Hamas around is asking to be attacked again in the future. It's a risk the government there is likely not willing to take
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Ай бұрын
Just get better fences
@andrewpritt8739
@andrewpritt8739 Ай бұрын
yeah true
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 Ай бұрын
Bibi's government funded Hamas in secret
@tombo416
@tombo416 Ай бұрын
So why did they try to frame this entire thing around hostages if they never really cared in the first place? Why couldn’t they just be honest and say they want to wipe Palestine out instead of trying to gain sympathy 😂
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Ай бұрын
It's a risk they willingly took when they have been funding Hamas for years and ignored the warnings of Oct 7th
@hartlytartly
@hartlytartly Ай бұрын
I wouldn't have accepted that deal if I were Israel either.
@anoooouur7304
@anoooouur7304 Ай бұрын
Israel itself did that deal, and then refused it.
@Adam-wg2rf
@Adam-wg2rf Ай бұрын
​​@@anoooouur7304it was not what egypt said it was a hamas edit to their side of the deal that's why israel said no
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Ай бұрын
@@anoooouur7304 No they didnt, did you watch the video? The "Deal" was not a deal at all but a proposal by egypt.
@bigg.grizzlybear2670
@bigg.grizzlybear2670 Ай бұрын
@@anoooouur7304 WHATTT !!!
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Ай бұрын
@@anoooouur7304 show me any evidence at all israel took that deal
@danw2502
@danw2502 Ай бұрын
"Hamas agreed to a cease fire deal" is a WILD oversimplification . that's the same as saying i agreed to a deal to buy your channel for 1$
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 Ай бұрын
They made an offer for a deal on their conditions with a weird timing.
@danw2502
@danw2502 Ай бұрын
​ they want to stop the rapah offensive, that's the only leverage they have
@alexlaza5301
@alexlaza5301 Ай бұрын
I am for ceasefire. But this "Ceasefire Proposal" sounds more like a surrender proposal for Israel.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Ай бұрын
there is no ceasefire possible. two sides hate eachother. one must win.
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 Ай бұрын
Its not a matter of hate for israel but security... if they would truly hate they would kill 2 million people in gaza in ons week.​@@007kingifrit
@Alexx481
@Alexx481 Ай бұрын
​@@007kingifrit Israel will win
@Newidhan
@Newidhan Ай бұрын
I don't get why israel is painted as the unreasonable party. The ceasefire deal Hamas 'agreed' to essentially means rollback the clock to October 8 and give Hamas everything they want. It's not a ceasefire, it's a demand for Israeli surrender
@seanonraet8327
@seanonraet8327 Ай бұрын
It's a demand that they go home and stop bombing civilians and blocking aid?
@inwalters
@inwalters Ай бұрын
@@arturferrao7353 They're already there, so that would be tough.
@applepiepieapple5464
@applepiepieapple5464 Ай бұрын
Found the mossad agent 🫵
@pistolsniper6281
@pistolsniper6281 Ай бұрын
@@arturferrao7353I don’t see how the hostage release is in anyway fair,like how could you think that
@DonaldPrizwan
@DonaldPrizwan Ай бұрын
@@arturferrao7353 way to strawman the dudes argument. or maybe you arent intelligent enough to understand that when he said "israeli surrender" he meant in the context of the gaza offensive. this type of behaviour is common in the super left in america right now. it honestly reminds me of debating with theists. you should cut it out, makes you look foolish.
@goodlookingcorpse
@goodlookingcorpse Ай бұрын
I find it striking that Hamas can say, "We agree to give back the hostages. Well, unless we've killed them all", and a large part of the world will treat this as a good-faith effort at peaceful coexistence.
@dannydxm
@dannydxm Ай бұрын
Tells you all you need to know about their supporter's level of morality and intelligence.
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Ай бұрын
I have no idea where that came from ! Hamas added at the deal the released of the West Bank civilians hostages that idf got without any charges including children ! They asked as well for the civilians hostages in the israelis prisons that died, and the idf DO NOT GIVE THEIR BODIES BACK TO THE FAMILIES - that's the point ! Turkyie just arrested some israelis that are accused ( that's what turkish say ) of organs traffic
@magnifiedentertainment7160
@magnifiedentertainment7160 Ай бұрын
That hamas deal is ridiculous they are in no place to make demands!
@hope_seeker
@hope_seeker Ай бұрын
Hamas says this because of bombings. Israel kills the hostages constantly
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Ай бұрын
hamas added to the deal that all the palestinians civilians held in the israelis cages without any charges to be realised ! And all the bodies of all the palestinians that died in prison to be retuned to the families ! That are the corpses ! Read haaretz instead to listen to interpretations
@ironbolt2678
@ironbolt2678 Ай бұрын
It semms funny that Hamas, losing side which provoked a war makes demands like they were celebrating victory in Jerusalem. I hate wars, I cannot understand why someone would want to kill anyone. However, when you play grown up-games, you face grown-up consequences.
@yusteryumeister4601
@yusteryumeister4601 Ай бұрын
Nobody disputes that, im concerned that the 'grown-up consequences' are being given mostly to innocent people who are dying
@rubensalsa8128
@rubensalsa8128 Ай бұрын
'I hate wars' , two seconds later : 'fk around and find out'. Jesus man, the civilians have nothing to do with the 'grown-up consequences' youre basically jerking off to in the corner. They didn't make the calls, all of the hamas leaders aren't even in Gaza, they're in Qatar chilling whilst all this is happening.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Ай бұрын
Because it's the same way Nasser was able to politically win in the Suez crisis despite being militarily defeated
@vod96
@vod96 Ай бұрын
Welcome to the last 80 years of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. Get comfortable
@zUJ7EjVD
@zUJ7EjVD Ай бұрын
Saying Hamas started this is a bit wrong. Sure, they started the latest "ramping up" of the war, but Israel has been slowly waging war against Palestine for decades. Death by a thousand cuts doesn't make it any less atrocious.
@akashzz4347
@akashzz4347 Ай бұрын
not even a fool would accept this deal.
@TheJackb45
@TheJackb45 Ай бұрын
a good deal is when both parties feel they have been fooled
@alfredjo-kx1gl
@alfredjo-kx1gl Ай бұрын
well Israel had already accepted it
@infidelheretic923
@infidelheretic923 Ай бұрын
​@@alfredjo-kx1gl Not so. Another nation accepted it on their behalf.
@alfredjo-kx1gl
@alfredjo-kx1gl Ай бұрын
@@infidelheretic923 cool buddy your opinion doesn't really matter but Israel literally agreed to it and secretary of state wanted to blame hamas so bad and was like hamas can end the war right now, when they accepted it it shook the americans and israelies bcz they were not expecting it, and hence the media blackout
@dswiftie8991
@dswiftie8991 Ай бұрын
@@alfredjo-kx1glisrael didn’t accept this deal. It accepted a different deal that was suggested by Egypt 2 days earlier, but Hamas made changes and added new conditions that Israel never agreed to, and then said they “accepted “ the deal. It was a clear ruse meant to put israel in a bad light and you clearly fell for it.
@Elongated_Muskrat
@Elongated_Muskrat Ай бұрын
So it was more like a list of demands from Hamas?
@kjhajueg_2731
@kjhajueg_2731 Ай бұрын
Your report is not correct. Netaniyahu or any other, Israeli side did not agree at any stage to the ambiguity "live or dead" hostages and not to the number of 33 of those. This basically means that Hamas can return 3 bodies every week and say that they respect this agreement.
@g-forcemapping8454
@g-forcemapping8454 Ай бұрын
Also Israel wanted 3 bodies every 3 days.
@TheOutsider-vc1hy
@TheOutsider-vc1hy Ай бұрын
Can't figure out why Israel would've said no to this... 'proposal'. /sarcasm. Seriously, why would Israel agree to these ridiculous terms that don't even release no where near all the hostages, and then Hamas having the audacity of demanding Palestinian prisoners' freedom for the bodies of said hostages.
@Paraneoz
@Paraneoz Ай бұрын
No wonder they said no if that's the deal, crazy to make such demands when youre on the loosing end.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Ай бұрын
3:59
@oooshafiqooo
@oooshafiqooo Ай бұрын
they accepted bruh. but then they dont what?
@yayfly7349
@yayfly7349 Ай бұрын
maybe ask Hamas to actually spend their funds on bomb shelters rather than building more tunnels or military setups in hospitals
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Ай бұрын
​Whataboutism. That's like telling Ukraine to divert military aid to building more bunkers
@myoko343
@myoko343 Ай бұрын
Israel is losing in the long run. It's image is forever tarnished and a pariah state. It is in free fall babe. WHat a beautiful thing
@lrmry
@lrmry Ай бұрын
Hamas agreed to a deal they negotiated with themselves 🤦‍♀️
@BENCHARSK1
@BENCHARSK1 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate you guys so much, theres so many political commentator KZfaqrs now that will say completely different things about what should be just facts of the matter, i read the deal and i dont like how everyone is completely misrepresentating it to pander to there side, keep going and much love from Canada.
@shohamgodel
@shohamgodel Ай бұрын
This is not "His invention of Gaza." I strongly oppose Netanyahu, but this is an Israeli response that is widely supported.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Ай бұрын
Please tell me next how this excuses saying Israel must be genocided
@user-bs9hm6gg9i
@user-bs9hm6gg9i Ай бұрын
why shouldnt it be supported? us and britain interventions in iraq and aphganistan alone caused way more civilian deaths,thousands of miles away from europe let alone the us...we are protecting our homes and prevent another 1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1941 farhud or seyfo like the assyriacs faced.
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael Ай бұрын
I don't think they were trying to single him out as being the only Israeli wanting to invade, they're just saying that because he is the leader of Israel. If you had a video about Ukraine trying to take back a city controlled by Russia, they could call it "Zelensky's counter offensive" or "Ukraine's counteroffensive" and it would mean the same thing.
@GracefulBanana
@GracefulBanana Ай бұрын
WIDELY SUPPORTED? By who 😭
@litterbox2010
@litterbox2010 Ай бұрын
It doesn't matter if something evil is popular or 'widely supported'. That doesn't justify the evil.
@Max11B
@Max11B Ай бұрын
Hamas proposal was a joke. They don’t want a ceasefire. To say otherwise is a joke also
@XquizitRush
@XquizitRush Ай бұрын
Actually they do, but they way overestimated their negotiating power with Israel, thinking that World pressure would lead to Israel's acceptance to their ridiculous proposal.
@Max11B
@Max11B Ай бұрын
@@XquizitRush yeah I’m sure 😂
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Ай бұрын
@user-et7wb3ct3o isreal's ceasefires are essentially exactly what we said to germany in ww2. surrender unconditionally. not unreasonable at all given how evil hamas is
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Ай бұрын
Trying to buy time and try to help PR but doing it at the last moment to different terms that the other party didn’t agree to looks desperate. To be fair, they aren’t exactly winning so a desperate situation is a rather apt description
@NDNBMirli
@NDNBMirli Ай бұрын
So now you call palestinians nazi​@@007kingifrit
@Atheist_Indian
@Atheist_Indian Ай бұрын
Leaving Hamas is like letting a snake live in your bed , Israel must not do that
@Jennyeq
@Jennyeq Ай бұрын
humanity must not let that happen. Yesterday they are coming after the Jews, tomorrow they'll come after the other 'non believers'.
@Atheist_Indian
@Atheist_Indian Ай бұрын
@@Jennyeq As a Kafir , well said brother
@jayrogan1835
@jayrogan1835 Ай бұрын
Then this isnt the right way of doing it. Israel has only galvanized Hamas support and if there goal was to truly eradicate hamas it would not be through the displacement of 2 million people and the death of 30,836 civilians.
@Atheist_Indian
@Atheist_Indian Ай бұрын
@@jayrogan1835 then what are the other options available to Israel , can you tell me
@harlowida
@harlowida Ай бұрын
Israel is the snake in this case. They’ve killed thousands of children and women
@lforlight
@lforlight Ай бұрын
Israel won't agree to a deal that leaves Hamas standing in the end of the war. Hamas won't agree to a deal that doesn't force Israel to stop fighting while Hamas is still in power. Both sides have said so, and so no deal can be had. It's painfully obvious that whatever Hamas claimed to agree to hasn't come from Israel, and therefore is simply proposing an offer rather than accepting one.
@rmmvw
@rmmvw Ай бұрын
It's VERY telling that Hamas wants a ceasefire and not a treaty/truce. Shows that they're wanting to go back in and fight again. Peace is never an option.
@bapo224
@bapo224 Ай бұрын
Did you not watch the video? Stage 3 is clearly meant as permanent peace... Israel is literally the one that keeps proposing temporary ceasefires for 24 and 48 hour periods...
@moharshad6882
@moharshad6882 Ай бұрын
Exactly, it’s an idealogy, an idealogy of hate, what do u thinks ganna happend after this war? After all these innocent Palestinians dying, losing their family members and getting there house bombed? It’s ganna grow, see this is the problem u Americans/westerners don’t get, u all think Israel wants peace with Palestinians but that’s not true at all, they wanna take Gaza and West Bank, they wanna push these Palestinians out
@gershonmat4162
@gershonmat4162 Ай бұрын
Oh shit here we go again, toxic comments in 1... 2...3
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget the obligatory bots
@limodemh5468
@limodemh5468 Ай бұрын
0:46 You said "peace agreement", but it is not a peace agreement with the Palestinians. What was proposed was a ceasefire for a few years, Hamas will receive aid from all over the world and will attack again after this. With his stated and practical goal of destroying Israel then there was no peace. Recently there was an interview (from a month ago) with the leader of Hamas who clearly says that this step is only to promote the destruction of Israel.
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Ай бұрын
''Hamas will receive aid '' is that ILEGAL under the international law ? Or are we still fooling that only israel is the one to right to defence ?! Beside Blinken was the one spiting on every channels on Fri that hamas HAVE TO ACCEPT the offer as is a great one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then when they add their demands and accept the deal, put up with the CIA they are the villain ! We all can see it on display we don't need anymore translation
@adamelghalmi9771
@adamelghalmi9771 Ай бұрын
it literally isnt... the deal was for a permanent ceasefire, and cessation of all hostilities for the forseeable future
@iselmon
@iselmon Ай бұрын
@@adamelghalmi9771 There was a permanent ceasefire in place before 7/10. Hamas' word is worth shit.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Ай бұрын
Provide evidence of the Hamas leader stating they are promoting the destruction of Israel.
@dVector13
@dVector13 Ай бұрын
Love how you quote hamas leadership on destroying israel. I wonder what your thoughts are on Ben-Gvir's equally ludicrous statements regarding palestine?
@riderramblings
@riderramblings Ай бұрын
Could you do a video on why no one is discussing or producing videos etc. about the other atrocities happening in the Middle East and Africa? It seems these atrocities are, in some cases, many thousands of times worse than what is happening in Israel.
@theanarchist4312
@theanarchist4312 Ай бұрын
theres atrocities in israel?
@timothygallagher978
@timothygallagher978 Ай бұрын
Wow, you really hit the "three things" of "three things". Normally it boils down to "the way we see it comes down to three things" or "two reasons". Straight up every video has the inevitable "three things" moment.
@ragglefraggle9111
@ragglefraggle9111 Ай бұрын
The only reason Hamas ever made any sort of agreement was because they would be expelled from Qatar otherwise
@kunikloy477
@kunikloy477 Ай бұрын
So according to Hamas, 1 isrealis worth 50 Palestinians?
@mrcocoloco7200
@mrcocoloco7200 Ай бұрын
Yes
@TheRealPingu
@TheRealPingu Ай бұрын
The theatre of war.
Ай бұрын
What am I missing, but... If Hamas cares about their ppl they should just unconditionally surrender.
@Sirstarya
@Sirstarya Ай бұрын
Here is the neat point they don’t
@runiccurse990
@runiccurse990 Ай бұрын
Why didn't the Soviets and UK just unconditionally surrender to the Nazis
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Ай бұрын
@@runiccurse990 the difference is those were countries capable of winning. hamas isn't capable of winning
@jhingoorpatima237
@jhingoorpatima237 Ай бұрын
No one care about people in the world but themselves !!!
@VYZD846
@VYZD846 Ай бұрын
They don’t 😂
@michaelkoss24
@michaelkoss24 Ай бұрын
Just curious - why did you not do a similar video on the multiple ceasefire deals rejected by Hamas over the past several weeks. Seems that is rather pertinent to how we got to this situation. Your reporting makes it seem as though Israel has not been at the negotiating table. Regretful TLDR now chooses to paint a biased picture, I had really enjoyed your reporting in the past but it seems, I should probably re-evaluate my trust in what your organisation puts out there if cherry picking facts is your method.
@ejt3708
@ejt3708 Ай бұрын
Yep. Seems biased. Not really interested in buying Nebula for that noise!
@eliziv8805
@eliziv8805 Ай бұрын
He is obviously biased against Israel. Just like most leftist Europeans. Israel must fight for its life and win!
@jamessloven2204
@jamessloven2204 Ай бұрын
It is kind of ridiculous that it is portrayed as Israel escalating the war. Hamas is proposing a deal as if they have won the war, and not as if they are being destroyed for committing crimes against humanity.
@andithanoj8372
@andithanoj8372 Ай бұрын
Crimes against humanity😂😂😂​@@jamessloven2204
@CIS101
@CIS101 Ай бұрын
Just prior to 2:44 that should be "fewer details" because details are countable or potentially countable. So for example less water, or fewer water molecules.
@taylorbolduc1763
@taylorbolduc1763 Ай бұрын
Hamas isnt in a position to negotiate. Anything less than unconditional surrender shouldnt be acceptable to Israel
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 Ай бұрын
they are winning though
@getblacked1351
@getblacked1351 Ай бұрын
​@@0MVR_0 how?
@Mudi106
@Mudi106 Ай бұрын
​@@getblacked1351have you seen how many Palestine flags are flying around the world and how much israel is becoming a pariah state? Palestine was almost forgotten by the West, and now students in the West are protesting in favor of Palestine.
@getblacked1351
@getblacked1351 Ай бұрын
@@Mudi106 and that did nothing
@frgwyn3760
@frgwyn3760 Ай бұрын
@@getblacked1351it is slowly, browns university so far has stopped its ties with Israel. It’s hard though.
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure Ай бұрын
Hamas's expectations of israel to accept their "proposal" Is ludicrous at best and flat out dumb at worst
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Ай бұрын
It's a clever move that ordinary citizens like you will never be able to understand. By making this "proposal", Israel can no longer blame Hamas for not releasing hostages, because now they made a proposal. If Israel refuses the proposal, it will make Israel look like a warmonger and it will lose further more international support.
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure Ай бұрын
@@baiwuli6781 but Israel can blame hamas for this "proposal"
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Ай бұрын
@@Hemalkukurkure blame hamas for what ? for showing the intention to end (at least temporary) the war and release hostages ? This is how most people will be see it. It's not wise to do that.
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure Ай бұрын
@@baiwuli6781 so u admit that hamas gaslights ppl?
@entertainment-mj1rv
@entertainment-mj1rv Ай бұрын
if someone came to your house, occupied 80% of it killed half your family and while trying to kill the rest? would you say the same thing?
@user-yg7fv3jo8v
@user-yg7fv3jo8v Ай бұрын
FACT: On October 7th, Palestinians celebrated in the streets, distributed cakes, and helped kidnap Israelis to Gaza, into the tunnels. They also, in exchange for money, kept the kidnapped individuals in their homes to blend them into the population.
@arturferrao7353
@arturferrao7353 Ай бұрын
Any evidence for this claim? Or is just like the beheaded babies and military bases under hospitals?
@merlumili
@merlumili Ай бұрын
Israeli bot found
@harlowida
@harlowida Ай бұрын
Sure hasbara bot. We all know Israelis support the death of 13,000 children
@sowetoninja9398
@sowetoninja9398 Ай бұрын
Also, majority of them agreed with Hamas tactics in a survey launched in Gaza. Look at how their kindergarten centers and schools are run, they are full of hate
@4R53Hole
@4R53Hole Ай бұрын
Do the Israelis not do similar or worse? The "settlers"?
@Wholiganu
@Wholiganu Ай бұрын
I find it disgusting that you say that the Rafah assault will damage Israel's standing instead of pointing out it has led to hundreds of deaths with many more to come.
@callformotivation
@callformotivation Ай бұрын
Is it me or Netanyahu is wearing the kippah more now than ever before?
@domkieran8077
@domkieran8077 Ай бұрын
hah I noticed this video was the first time I saw him wearing one!
@LA-cm9uo
@LA-cm9uo Ай бұрын
yes and many israelis are turning back to their faith
@jonathanpriel5013
@jonathanpriel5013 Ай бұрын
It is a picture from the Holocaust memorial day ceremony. It is common for secular jews to wear kippa in such ceremonies.
@4R53Hole
@4R53Hole Ай бұрын
he's pulling his hair out
@ilansimon3962
@ilansimon3962 Ай бұрын
False… He puts one on only in ceremonies such as the holocaust Memorial Day and next week Memorial Day.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta Ай бұрын
Something tells me Hamas really didn't want a deal buuut, losing that last big area might just kill their movement. Hence suddenly they act nice.
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Ай бұрын
And possibly losing their safe position of being hosted in Qatar
@ConnorCocoas
@ConnorCocoas Ай бұрын
And they’re not even “acting”very well
@jorehir
@jorehir Ай бұрын
A ridiculous proposal, as if Hamas was on the winning side...
@sudiptokumar986
@sudiptokumar986 Ай бұрын
The problem is that you can say that it's the same deal Israel proposed. But the question is when? At that time Israel did not attack and Hamas did not accept. Now the wheel has turned. And the same can not be applied.
@insertname5371
@insertname5371 Ай бұрын
Ok can we all agree it’s hella sus they made a higher exchange rate for female prisoners?
@bentrinker1937
@bentrinker1937 Ай бұрын
It’s sus they want to exchange the ppl they kidnapped the night not even be alive for 50 convicted prisoners.
@moaqyigl
@moaqyigl Ай бұрын
its actually higher for female *soldiers*, the reason its specified this way is becouse this deal does not include any male soldiers at all, but they want 50 for soldiers and 30 for civilians.
@cosmicjester6341
@cosmicjester6341 Ай бұрын
It's psychological warfare. Hamas is using rape and violence against women as means to their end.
@oriontigley5089
@oriontigley5089 Ай бұрын
It's very telling
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me Ай бұрын
Females have much more use for Hamas soldiers, they wouldn't mind keeping them. It's horrible, but it's the truth.
@Ominous_Walrus
@Ominous_Walrus Ай бұрын
The poster pointing at rafah at 00:14 looks like a poster that was dropped on allied soldiers in dunkirk.
@N7-WAR-HOUND
@N7-WAR-HOUND Ай бұрын
Hamas agreed to a deal that was not on the table. It’s a ploy to put pressure on Israel. But history has shown Israel no amount of pressure will stop this war. Slow it yes but not stop it
@PedroOjeda
@PedroOjeda Ай бұрын
Can you site the poll for Israeli and use of force in Gaza?
@user_xsr
@user_xsr Ай бұрын
Under qatar, egypt and UN. Ha, yea right
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Ай бұрын
They are mediator?
@ClamTheClammy
@ClamTheClammy Ай бұрын
They are not in a position to negotiate 😅
@dannydenison6253
@dannydenison6253 Ай бұрын
You have no idea how precarious of a position this Jnocide has put Israel in. They could see a vast swing in opinions Due to the ICC, ICJ, and public sentiment in general. They are on the route of the apartide south african government. Pressure is low now, but building extremely rapidly. Every major move risks being the Catalyst.
@santostv.
@santostv. Ай бұрын
I agree, but doesn’t change the fact that both sides are religious fanatics idiots that don’t care about their people.
@cyclomb
@cyclomb Ай бұрын
Israel doesn’t care about hostages 🤷🏻‍♂️
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Ай бұрын
Oh but they are ! Just like the americans did it with Neldon Madela, all the guerilla fighters, the talibans the left over of the soviets and on and on and on ! Just like that !
@willpickering5829
@willpickering5829 Ай бұрын
@@dannydenison6253Seems like you’ve already made your conclusions and Israel has nothing to lose in that regard; might as well continue to Rafah then.
@madhatter2465
@madhatter2465 Ай бұрын
Don't you get it! There are none left
@kami_in_the_skye
@kami_in_the_skye Ай бұрын
Because Israel already inadvertently took them all out themselves turning Gaza to rubble because they never actually gave a damn about the hostages in the first place.
@lrmry
@lrmry Ай бұрын
Obviously false- they’ve provided proof of life for several
@infidelheretic923
@infidelheretic923 Ай бұрын
New proposal. Hamas dies or surrenders. Then ceasefire. How's that?
@Tybold63
@Tybold63 Ай бұрын
Something like that yes..
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Ай бұрын
That not ceasefire
@davidaway753
@davidaway753 Ай бұрын
They wouldn't be able to throw their gays off the rooftops if there will be no rooftops left in Gaza.
@EKFN117
@EKFN117 Ай бұрын
I Wonder how many gay people died as a result of Israeli war effort....
@EKFN117
@EKFN117 Ай бұрын
I wonder how many gay people have been killed from Israeli bombing....
@echidnaralsei1473
@echidnaralsei1473 Ай бұрын
werent those clips of isis? that was like over at iraq-syria
@EKFN117
@EKFN117 Ай бұрын
I wonder how many gay people were buried as a result of the Israeli war effort......
@llaammeerr2506
@llaammeerr2506 Ай бұрын
​@@EKFN117but unlike hamas, israel wasn't targetting gay people
@kumbaya69421
@kumbaya69421 Ай бұрын
Not going to lie. Why sre Hamas acting like they have the upper hand here??
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 Ай бұрын
Because thsnks to lefties and muslims all over the world they somehow have good chances.
@BS-jw7nf
@BS-jw7nf Ай бұрын
Good video, thanks tldr
@ejt3708
@ejt3708 Ай бұрын
Don't agree. TLDR has framed the "deal" as something Israel agreed to. You only hear that they never agreed by implication. Confusing and Pro-Hamas storyline.
@Deepakkumar-pn6vw
@Deepakkumar-pn6vw Ай бұрын
Crafting such an agreement shows Hamas hasn't been satisfied yet with Palestinian sufferings.
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639 Ай бұрын
Here we go again
@harelswissa9821
@harelswissa9821 Ай бұрын
Israel agreed 3 weeks ago on a deal, the deal Hamas agreed on was NOT the same one presented to Israel, the key difference is that Hamas is not required to bring living people, he can exchange 33 bodies and keep the living hostages
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 Ай бұрын
Where to?😂 Raffa is on the Egypt border
@andrewpritt8739
@andrewpritt8739 Ай бұрын
did you look at the map theres the coast☠
@advakart4208
@advakart4208 Ай бұрын
@@andrewpritt8739 are they supposed to swim to cyprus?
@ykwia1
@ykwia1 Ай бұрын
To the east. He mentioned this
@AhmedAli-cf8oz
@AhmedAli-cf8oz Ай бұрын
Then why Jews didn't go to British and went to colonize Palestine when British was at their borders
@andrewpritt8739
@andrewpritt8739 Ай бұрын
@@advakart4208 Coastal cities big brain?
@christopherk140
@christopherk140 Ай бұрын
What a one sided deal?????? NO DEAL BY ANYONE SANE!
@yanivgammeter7999
@yanivgammeter7999 Ай бұрын
Hamas didnt accept an Israeli ceasefire proposal. They received, modified and accepted their own modified proposal. No agreement between two parties works like that. Imagine you make an offer on a house, and the owner doubles the price and accepts the modified offer. Hamas aren't serious. There only goal is to destroy Israeli credibility, with no fear for their own because they're already a terrorist group. Btw anyone can find their modified ceasefire "agreement", it's in Arabic though, so you have to translate it if you dont speak Arabic.
@psychoticcapybara9362
@psychoticcapybara9362 Ай бұрын
Sounds like a very one sided agreement.
@egylord2623
@egylord2623 Ай бұрын
I have a lot of respect for this channel but the title and thumbnail are misleading. The current title/thumbnail make it look as if the ceasefire deal/negotiations were a factor in deciding whether to invade. The truth is, as stated by Netanyahu in a public address a few days ago, Israel planned to invade Rafah regardless of whether a ceasefire deal is reached or not. Do not (even if unintentionally) justify for Israel.
@krieg_guardsman9548
@krieg_guardsman9548 Ай бұрын
Not going to lie that deal sucked. Can't even get living hostages in the first part.
@eranhaim9913
@eranhaim9913 Ай бұрын
yet the US pressures Israel to accept this deal cause Biden is about to lose the elections. the US flips like a steak and can't be trusted long term. also" "I agree to getting all my friends out of prison, retain my regime, rearm and rebuild all the tunnels to do it all over again in the not so distant future, I also agree to getting BJ from Taylor Swift, and getting 2 unicorns that sing in Arabic" - hamas, probably
@KelticStingray
@KelticStingray Ай бұрын
Theres probably very few hostages left.
@lordlorian81
@lordlorian81 Ай бұрын
Plan that hamas agreed on Is full capitulation of israel or something like that Israel would never agree to something like that
@heleneklompas5084
@heleneklompas5084 Ай бұрын
Hamas deal can not be recognized. As other 7 Oct-like attacks. As well as Hamas attempts to blame Israel for not accepting bizarre deals
@jakethegardenrake8418
@jakethegardenrake8418 Ай бұрын
I appreciate that you guys seem to have no political bias whatsoever, keeping it strictly to informative news. Very professional
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 Ай бұрын
They are anti-Israel. They call Israel settlements in Judea and Samaria (Israel sovereign territory under international law) "illegal"
@GracefulBanana
@GracefulBanana Ай бұрын
They seem very biased towards Israel to me but better than most publications in that regard so I guess I’ll get what I can take
@Joel86543
@Joel86543 Ай бұрын
​@@GracefulBananaIt only looks biased to you because you are probably used to seeing pro Palestinian news. A person whatching pro Israel news would say this is pro Palestinian. It really comes down to what your normal is
@Monkey_D_Luffy56
@Monkey_D_Luffy56 Ай бұрын
​@@GracefulBanana you are probably well educated about this situation and I want to ask you something since you are " UNBIASED " I'm just curious, really curious. . . why would Hamas kill a bunch of people then celebrate and then take innocent people ( children, women, etc etc ) as hostages? What's their goal?
@shojimoko
@shojimoko Ай бұрын
This is sound like demand from losing side lol
@jakegarvin7634
@jakegarvin7634 Ай бұрын
Is it just me or does that ceasefire deal sound kind've insulting?
@Gallalad1
@Gallalad1 Ай бұрын
I find it interesting that Hamas only accepted the deal the moment Israel began to start the operation and was giving civilians time to evacuate. They had plenty of time before. It reeks of bad faith
@entertainment-mj1rv
@entertainment-mj1rv Ай бұрын
bad faith? coming from Israel, who want to expel all Palestinians from their lands? bullshit
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff Ай бұрын
Hamas have played their last game with the joke of a proposal. They don't seem to know or don't care that they are losing. They'd rather every Gazan die than surrender and/or give up power. This is par for the course with them.
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Ай бұрын
IIRC it had been officially stated by them as such and would essentially be PR for their cause. Mid-2000’s since. Add in that their polling numbers weren’t doing too well just before October
@kwader_1404
@kwader_1404 Ай бұрын
And civillian children who will pay the price
@BertWithoutErnie
@BertWithoutErnie Ай бұрын
Maybe hamas have their plans thats why they triggered it. Who knows 💁
@leejackson3268
@leejackson3268 Ай бұрын
hamas wants their own people to die because this gets them PR. that's why they use them as human shields
@ThePandafriend
@ThePandafriend Ай бұрын
​@@leejackson3268 We need to stop promoting the "human shields" narrative. Yes, a portion could be considered "human shields", but many bring their children to places for which bombings are anounced deliberately. The Islamic mindset is pretty insane. Many are happily becoming "martyrs". If they would value life there would be way less civilian casualties. Just listen to what Muslims are saying, especially what they are saying in Arabic.
@kobusvanstaden3747
@kobusvanstaden3747 Ай бұрын
Spelling errors are creeping in more often. Solider instead of soldier
@user-lp2zn3ux1x
@user-lp2zn3ux1x Ай бұрын
I want a ceasefire but Israel is right-there is not much in this deal for them.
@yuvalharel3537
@yuvalharel3537 Ай бұрын
2:10 you forgot to mention that those 18 hostages are dead
@troigheohinneirghe7378
@troigheohinneirghe7378 Ай бұрын
Why quote "Siege of Gaza"? Is it not a siege?
@steffenberr6760
@steffenberr6760 Ай бұрын
Around 30k civilian deaths is the best case scenario if evacuation is impossible. Thats comparable to the battle of mosul. The thought of the Soviets not invading berlin to finish off the nazis because “wont somebody think of the poor civilians” would have been laughable.
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Ай бұрын
What about Famine?
@user-bs9hm6gg9i
@user-bs9hm6gg9i Ай бұрын
@@tiglishnobody8750 so far the only famine takes place in yemen where 80 thousand children starved to death. no mess protests and exaggerated coverage by qatari funded media on that .check the reports again(not ones done by the UN and its tens of islamist dictatorial regimes) and you will see there is no famine in gaza. they warned of famine in gaza years before 7th of october. suprise suprise -no famine there . like they have been sying since the 1920s the hebrews have a plan to take over al aqsa mosque...
@harlowida
@harlowida Ай бұрын
The only n*zis here are the isr*lis and your number on mosul is complete and utter lie. And unlike ww2 we’ve something called Geneva convention and human rights
@steffenberr6760
@steffenberr6760 Ай бұрын
@@tiglishnobody8750 thats what happens when a war starts and the neighboring country wont allow civilians evacuations. If you dont like it then dont start wars. Of course people like you are only protesting now because its clear hamas will lose. If you truly cared for civilians people like you would have condemned what started the war as this was always going to be the inevitable outcome
@harlowida
@harlowida Ай бұрын
Dude says “best case scenario” to 30k human beings dead out of which 13k are children. The only Nazis here are the Israelis and unlike ww2, we’ve something called the Geneva convention now. You can’t just go on a bloody rampage on women and children. And you’re completely lying about mosul. Typical Zionist
@Fei_Rei
@Fei_Rei Ай бұрын
You need to clarify what is Khan Yunis looks like? For Rafah, you can still has building as shelter from rain, wind, heat or cold. Plus, there is no existing Humanitarian center in Khan Yunis but probably new center at the flat destroyed place. Also, 1.5m people need to move from Rafah to Khan Yunis either by 'car', donkey/horse or walking. They need to walk for tens of kilometer on the uncertain safety road until they reach 'safer zone' in Khan Yunis. Gaza already at famine, it will be worst if they force to move to nowhere safe every single time the IDF order them to do evacuate.
@bapo224
@bapo224 Ай бұрын
Yeah like Israel really expected them to just teleport to Khan Younis and what are 1.5m people gonna do at that pile of rubble?
@dannydenison6253
@dannydenison6253 Ай бұрын
Exactly just another way to pretend its not what it is. An ethnic cleansing via Jnocide. Its always been an ethnic cleansing, 70+ years of it.
@JTP1999
@JTP1999 Ай бұрын
​@@bapo224 Don't blame Israel for Hamas' inability to care for it's civilians.
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Ай бұрын
@@JTP1999 israel is responsible for all for the pas 75 years ! And we all see it as facts and people talk now days not like in germany 1938, besides until 1987 hamas was not even existed, and until 2000 ans something were not on the government position
@Trash_prince
@Trash_prince Ай бұрын
@@cristinakasselas555 They independent since 2005, biggest mistake Israel did was to pull out of Gaza
@kashcash2876
@kashcash2876 Ай бұрын
Like Mosad Yousef said, " There is NO deal with the devil" And the audacity of Hamas to make demands after their Oct 7 massacre is appalling
@louie8346
@louie8346 Ай бұрын
My brain hurts trying to make sense of this. Time to watch cats
@tronskywalker3633
@tronskywalker3633 Ай бұрын
3:40 israel never exchanged dead prisoners. In international law this is actually prohibited to deal with the dead.
@AhmedAli-cf8oz
@AhmedAli-cf8oz Ай бұрын
Share with me what part of international law say this and remember that international law say Israel is a terrorist entity years and years ago
@armintargaryen9216
@armintargaryen9216 Ай бұрын
Not commenting on the fact itself, but when has International Law stopped Israel?
@shevthegreb757
@shevthegreb757 Ай бұрын
@@armintargaryen9216It stopped them from invading rafah earlier.
@shaeleable
@shaeleable Ай бұрын
@@armintargaryen9216 when did it stop hamass?
@smalltime0
@smalltime0 Ай бұрын
@@shaeleable Hamas isn't a state actor in Israel's eyes
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