Jaghati's weakness was his tendency to run away from his problems and his missguided belief that doing so was some form of "freedom". this is shown by how he went out of his way to be on the fringes of the great crusade to get away from the imperium due to feeling conflicted about serving an emperor (as he used to tear them down back on his homeworld), what differentiates Jaghati is that he actually overcame his flaw through positive character development while the traitors doubled down.

actually autism is incurable...

@6:10 The wolf never forgets a grudge Majorkill

why not cross post your stuff on rumble and other alt tech sites?

7:55 You wouldn't be the first awful person I've heard call people who killed themselves weak.

The curse of having multiple writers

Kurze wins in this regard

In a nutshell

I curb my frustrations with this by imagining the authors are different historians telling their take of things. It helps…. A little

@@rka319 everything in 40k can be classifies as unreliable narration. I can live with that

He was cordial with the Angel too but overall he felt like he should do his work solo and not brag about anything he’s like a more wise version of Rogal but likes Speed rather then defense

I don't think he had a level of animosity as much as you would think. I think its more the other primarchs are for the most part hard to get along with. Most of them are prideful to some extent/a bit mad. They are demigods walking amongst mortals with little to pose a challenge to them and for the most part never had the ego checks that normal people have throughout their lives because they were in fact competent enough for the most part to succeed at whatever they seriously attempted on their homeworlds. It doesn't help that they really didn't interact all that much when it comes down to it and I'm not including corroborating on the crusade. I mean really interacting with eachother in such a way that they could contest each others ideas and challenge each other. So a naturally down to earth personality would probably have significant issues with them.

Ya love jaghatai I have listened to all Horus heresy and he’s my favorite

@@uriel005 I mean plenty of primarchs didn’t have terrible personalities. People like Sanguinius and Vulcan come to mind. Khan seems to just be a stoic loner. Ronin-Type. (Honestly much like the culture he’s based on, he’s very secluded and separatist.)

@@uriel005 Malcador once said that he wished The Emperor made the primarchs get along with each other better.

Rogal would be offended by that comment If only he could read it

@@ArchonCavantis sorry people like to enjoy things

No he's illiterate

@@ArchonCavantis oh no people like things!!!

@@ArchonCavantis oh no people like things!!!

That and the rage machine in his brain.

@@PumpkinHoard if Angron had his gladiator buddies, while he would have died because of the nails, they would have made him a better person.

@@Jimothyjohns Agreed He wouldnt have seen his Father as a man eho enslaved him

@@ReconCrusader Trade Angron for a loyalist? Bad deal, terrible deal, maybe the worst deal of all time. Agreed

@@ReconCrusader chaos could reshuffle their ranks, with perty joining Nurgle and Morty joining Khorne (not much going for this, apart from their shared hatred of Psykers) freeing up Angron

Just as planned

More than just blame, he can avoid that huge tragedy.

That's not a stupid theory it's basically the underlining reason he split them up including his, he knew and down the road throughout the lore some Ultramarine succesors fell to chaos. So it was smart tbh.

@@CanadianHunter69 I think Guiliman even said himself his reason for splitting the chapters was so that if another heresy broke out no one chapter would be able to wield the power they had before, thus the damage would be limited, it makes sense in a way as a chapter master would have to jump through hoops to get all successor chapters together, and even more hoops to get them all to agree to turn traitor, and that takes time, which can then he exploited by the loyalists.

It was a smart decision

im not sure id consider Lorgar a better fighter

Ya he is often overcome by his own percieved duty, fighting fulgrim alone even though he knew he'd lose

LOL Lorgar is NOT a better fighter. He's without question the weakest of the primarchs physically. So much so that the only reason he's still alive is his ass was saved at the last moment multiple times. Angron kept Guilliman from killing him, Kurze kept Corax from ripping him apart (literally), etc.

On what planet is Lorgar a good fighter lmaaaooooo. Hes the most dogshit primarch at pretty much everything except holding fancy speeches.

@@JimH. No Lorgar and GMan's fight was pretty even until Angron stepped in, despite having fought the communion previously and while conducting the ritual to make Angron a daemon prince at the same time. After awakening his psychic powers Lorgar got a significant power boost, not to the upper tiers of Corax, Kurze, Lion etc but definitely above the likes of GMan, Alpharius or Perty.

And now their Dreadnoughts are one step away (or further, depending on how you view it) of being true Abominable Intelligences. Good job, Mechanicus!

Dont get me started on thr Iron Hands Man they were absolute assholes

They once kidnapped another Chapter’s dreadnought to put their own marine in it.

Bumping. I want this to include pre-treason traitors, too. Like what the fuck would Lorgar think if he took an eleven thousand year nap & just woke up to everyone following his religion in the most warped and miserable ways possible?

That would be an interesting video

Ooooh that’s a good one

I'd watch that

@@deadmeme8011 oh I'd love that

We already have them here. They are called rebublicans

@@Wopbobaloobop lmao

Republicans lol anyone who thinks the government is there for the better

@@Wopbobaloobop woah woke bro...FOR THE REPUBLICANS!

@@Wopbobaloobop VERY oversimplified, but for America: Daemons of Khorne: Republicans (Primary reasoning: general stance on guns) Daemons of Slaanesh: Democrats (Primary reasoning: massively overcorrecting problems) Daemons of Tzeentch: Voter fraud & corruption (This one's pretty obvious) Daemons of Nurgle: People who don't vote (Primary reasoning: they've given up) P.S. This is a joke, please don't turn the comments into a political debate

I hate that Erda scattered the Primarchs.

try and break up with a girl when you have kids mate ... even perpetual bitches be crazy lol@@robertnelson9599

I was gonna say emp himself allows eldars run around but you got covered. I think he just likes to flex psyk powers on eldars like harlquin that clapped custodians and came to emp to just freeze and gawk at him

Perturabo was destined to fall to Chaos. The Eye of Terror was watching him since he was a child

Then give them a massive hug and squeeze them to death. Rinse and repeat. Truly a grimdark character

that is also his greatest strength

Unless you were an eldar child....

To be fair eldar kids are Xeno thus dont count in for love of humanity of vulcan 😂

Gaazghkull starts accending to proper krork status and then big brother escapes and leads another smaller but quickly growing in size and power Waaagh

Trazyn sighs and prepares another PokeBall and approximately one hundred thousand fake Trazyns. Then, while everyone thinks he's off to recapture his Krork, he's really going to try and steal Imhotekhs staff. Again. For the third time this month. ...it's a sign of affection, truly, why is everyone so upset?

@@orbitalbutt6757 ^ same

@@callumfinlayson-palmer8393 I'm fuzzy on the lore, but given the technology and intelligence of the krorks, I would assume that the Krork and Gaz would be on a collision course to lead the inevitable super-WAAAGH that would manifest the longer the krork was active and the closer they got to each other. If not that, then a pretty 40k-Orky way for them to meet could be for the krork to show up and rag on current-era Ork society/fighting and how much they devolved. But rather than accept the obvious technology, strategy, and intelligent leadership he brings to the table, Gaz says Gork and Mork don't want that shit and calls him a tau for thinking an Ork ever needs more than some brutal cunning and cunning brutality.

The instinctively follow the biggest one around, so it's instantly the leader of all the orks in the galaxy. Would be pretty funny if there was something really different about it though, like it's actually a woman or something and they lost their genitals over 60 million years through that whole "believe it hard enough and the psychic field makes it true" thing.

True the khan really displays the lowest lvl of autism among his brothers (aside from girlyman but not having autism is literally his superpower soooo).

He's a better general, no doubt, but he's not a better tactician. On the battlefield, Johnson would've taken Jaghatai apart

That Johnson's advantage again lies in the fact that he would be able to kill an ally only proves that he is worse lol.

@@redgreen8761 what kind of logic is that.

sanity

He had what, 5-10k marines max? They were losing that daily on terra...

@@MrLaz0rz Having primarch is great boost, not only to morale but the fighting power. And 5-10k could do a lot when they're the legion that strength lies in stealth. But then again RG tactic is to use stealth and attack weak enemies that are immensely smaller than RG. Which is the same tactic 40k NL are using. Yet people are shitting on NL and calling them "cowards", while praising RG and calling it "great tactic" when they're doing the same thing.

@@MrLaz0rzthey were still holding on Luna, with the other Istaavan legions.

@@MrLaz0rz even as a hyperbole they weren't losing 10k space marines a a day considering there were like 1mil marines in the galaxy in total

@Jean Xza I mean during the Siege of Terra battle, the Lions Gate spaceport was held and LOST by 18,000 imperial fists. Due to its importance I'm assuming this is larger deploymeny than each bastion that was lost by maybe 8-13,000. (10k-5k marines average)

Thoughts are "Its Cawill, so it's good", but "it's Amazon, so it's bad"

@@jkgf4671 Yes

@@jkgf4671Exactly lmao

GW doesn't like their IP being abused so if Amazon tries to fuck it up for any reason, you can bet your ass that GW will pull the plug on it. I guarantee that they have about fifteen million concessions written into the contract to keep them from fucking with the lore.

Expanse is a great Adaptation though they did have the writers fully involved

Fucking dammit Rogal

With Baldermort serving as Reclusiarch naturally

@@franciscocruz4624 Make sure to get pineapple with your pizza

​@@franciscocruz4624 he wouldn't even need to say anything coherent - dude's cadence alone would inspire the entire chapter.

40k's Griffith

I think his weakness is that he was a perfectionist while also being insecure as he knew his legion was top tier, its just he didnt have the numbers or the same amount of accomplishments due to problems.

@@a.m.2066 Well maybe not somebody who has been mutated Plagued or twisted by the chaos gods but a regular shmegular cult member who is yet to feel the full force of chaos taint may see the errors in there ways and turn on chaos and Intentionality weaken chaos because I doubt the inquisition would let someone who has been in a chaos cult join the imperium but they can always make plans that in the end weaken chaos

check the channel there's already a video about it, "can you come back from chaos" something like that

You die immediately and your soul devoured

cool concept but it's kinda hard to survive being severred from the influence of something like Nurgle, most of the time when that happens they feel a deep regret and die almost immediately due to how messed up their body has become

Demon legion?

Despite Russ being a hypocrite, it kinda worked out. I dont recall reading about any traitorous SW. I mean, even some Black Templars made buddies with IW during the War of the Beast and betrayed their chapter, that really stuck out to me, because i saw them as the ultimate hyper-loyal spergs.

Spacewolves are uniquely resistant to the warp to my knowledge. Tho I'm sure there have been at least a few who have turned to chaos.

@@vavra222 Sven Vulfbad champion of Khorne and space wolf.

@@kellerblair2952 Never heard of him, nothing comes up in search too, care to elaborate?

He voluntarily turned to Chaos because they recognize his deeds The Red Corsairs have at least a few dozen Traitor Wolves in their ranks

Terran marines actually tended to be the loyal marines in the legion

Just call Caldor Draigo. Given all the deus ex machinations asspulls the dude has been involved in beating up a primarch should be no problem for him lol

That trick only works once Had Draigo NOT BEEN GIVEN Mortarion's True Name he and the entire Grey Knights would have been killed. Morty then invades and conquers Terra

Sounds more like mortarion.

I have a question was was sanguins so convinced of his future as set and it turned out to be that way, but Konrad was also convinced but it was a joke how different it could have been. Was all the options just gone by that point for sanguins

@@josephvanhaverbeke1448 No. I forget what book it was in but Konrad and Sanguinius has this same conversation. Konrad only sees destruction. He always chooses the worse option and does not care. Like when he killed that innocent kid because he might’ve had a knife on him. (He didn’t) Whereas no matter how bad his visions were Sanguinius always looked for the bright side. He would use the good he saw to keep him going whereas Konrad only focused on the bad. Sanguinius is not the Marty Stu everyone claims if you read the books. He’s a “man” who is seen as an Angel and is expected to act like one. However Sanguinius suffers from massive depression and anxiety. It was him constantly looking at the few positives that he could fined that kept him going.

@@deathshot11z55 correct our Angel didn’t get depressed or betray the Imperium instead fought till the very end

Yet Samus almost killed him in Solar War

@@christiandauz3742 I said his mind not his body

@@bloodhunter07 Chamber at the End of Memory disagrees

@@christiandauz3742 NOO

The battle of Gate 42 I believe. It's a shame since Corvus was among the more humane of the Primarchs I bet he wished some of those legionnaires were around for the Heresy.

I will freely admit Russ bias but I feel your interpretation is really backed up by the writing. He even seems to admit is hypocrisy regarding the rune priests when speaking to Malcador. Russ while often brash and reckless is shown to be quite self aware of who and what he is.

I remember that scene where Valdor goes to Russ and tells him to drop the "barbarian king" act for they had work to do, and Leman just stares at him coldly and nods. Or that time he took a guy for interrogation in a chamber surrounded by sisters of silence, as he suspected the guy's mind had been altered trough sorcery, which was true. Really shows how sharp Russ' mind was.

the one thing I question here is russ and the lion being on the same level combat wise, the lore tends to point to the idea that the lion was practically untouchable in combat

@@miss_baphomet I have to agree with Russ and El’Johnson not being on the same level as dualists. The Lion was a better dualist for sure.

@@miss_baphomet The fight that solidifies it in my book is his "victory" over the chaos empowered Horus. The book makes it pretty clear he had it won. Then hesitated and got suckered with a mace to the face because plot couldn't have him killing Horus. I think that alone puts him up there combat level wise spear of the emperor or not. Hell most of his failures are down to his hesitation to actually seriously commit to fights with other primarchs. I mean when he fought lion they took it to the ground and he just started laughing about how stupid it was that they fought and Lion took it badly and ko'd him. Angron really wasn't a fight but a point being made and at that point he really wasn't gearing into the fight to kill him and as I stated earlier the Horus fight was pretty much doomed to prequel outcomes already being determined. That aside one of the Lion's biggest feats is dealing with Konrad who I personally think was a bit overblown because Vulkan whooped him and nearly killed him in 1 shot with his bare hands, while konrad was armored and with a shield the moment he decided to stop playing games and committed to escaping. Not sure if that says more about Vulkan being the low key undisputed top tier held back by the simple fact he holds back. So yeah I'd probably put them at similar levels if it came down to a fight to the death. I think the differences between them come down to Russ being less refined in a fight to Lion's more clinical and precise style but that isn't to say one is necessarily better than the other.

That would probably be Khorne, as Khorne doesn't care from where the blood flows as long as it keeps flowing, so he would have no problem so long as The Imperium keeps the blood flowing with crusades. His creations have some sort of sense of honor(ish) as Ka'bhandha rushed to "aid" the Blood Angels during the Devastation of Baal against the Tyranids, largely because if anyone is gonna destroy the Blood Angels, it's gona be Ka'bhandha and nobody else. He is also hates sorcery, so that puts him against both Tzeench and Slaanesh.

Definetly Tzeentch, What else to expect from the great schemer? He would just backstab the other 3 for a laugh. Also this wouldn't last very long until he gets bored. Now I'm insecure on wich side he is currently

@@vincentschaum9622 "I'm on Tzeentch's side, but I also plan to backstab Tzeentch to appease tzeench and also fool tzeentch into believing I support tzeentch" -Tzeentch.

each of the chaos gods would join with humanity, if humans were left to their own devices, it makes the chaos gods blush, 1.(Khorne) conquest and battle, dark ages of tech saw them conquered millions of worlds( big e inherited it) races encountered were considered trivia and many driven to extinction 2.(Nurgle) created many subhuman species, spreading life and death to stars just by colonizing planets( new eco systems to non natives, Nurgley would love columbus) 3.(tzeentch) brings joy to see humans the most productive and the most self destructive race work their magic 4.(slaanesh) human greed knows no bound, planet, to stars, to sectors, to Milky way, to galaxies, humans made contact with tyranids in their own galaxy instead of the other way around. but its all just a big if, humanity got two opportunity, During the golden of tech if A.Is stays normal, and if the big e just be a responsible father figure.

@@RageABoo Here's the thing, the question made by pumpking doesn't say "humanity". It says "the forces of the Imperium". Considering the 4 chaos gods see The Emperor as "The Anathema", which one would be the most likely to ignore that, at least temporarily. I say Khorne as he hates 2 of the other 3 chaos gods and is no more antagonistic towards the imperium as he is towards everyone else, so it would be similar to how the Blood Axe Orks often join forces with the Imperium either as mercenaries or when something bigger and badder shows up (like Nids or Daemons). Also, there's the whole "Ka'bhandha saves the Blood Angels from the Nids because only Ka'bhandha is allowed to kill the BAs" thing.

He has some, in the "Alpharius - Head of the Hydra" book. Which is basically his POV of being found by the Emperor and then working to find his other half. I can recommend the book, there is a nice bit of foreshadowing when Alpharius wants to instigate riots on some world and uses a recording of a forbidden warcry of a past enemy of those people.

Also we don't 100% know if it was Alpharius or Omegon who died as they switched all the bloody time

What we do know is that the surviving Twin AWOL on his own Legion! For 10k years the Alpha Legion have been worshipping and corrupted by Chaos. Especially those that retreated into the Eye of Terror during the Scouring

The Lion was an incredible warrior but Jaghatai was a peerless Duelist, probably only matched by Sanguinius himself. It would absolutely be an incredible fight, but sword to sword I really gotta give it to the Khan here.

@@orbitalbutt6757 I'm a dark angels player. And ide have to say you are probably correct. The lion is a better general hands down. But the dancer of chagorris is peerless in the duel.

@@orbitalbutt6757 Lion is the best duelist among the primarchs, being a god-tier swordsman is kinda one of his primarch powers. Khan is superb and would put up one hell of a fight, but I think Lion would best him. Lion is probably the second best primarch in straight-up combat, with Russ, Khan, Angron and Horus coming in as close seconds. He was only outmatched by Sanguinius.

@@curtisegill1550 that and jaghatai was a speedster,with his dao,he would be able to tear the lion up hard since he could unleash a insurmountable and fast onslaught too fast for even the lion keeping track

Yes, Ollanius Pius got a plot of land in some peaceful world after his service.

what do you mean "recently"

@@acedeci4560 you haven’t noticed? It seems to me he’s doing more Primarch stuff than usual

@@blacklighthologram5339 He's always been doing primarch stuff, like every 3rd video is primarch stuff, and im not complaining love em

We know some of them, most of the ones I know of being high ranking Ultramarines, are absolutely nuts, so it could be interesting

I agree, I do like his fall. Despite his outward way of acting his inner self did love his sons but he knew if he showed such affection it would most likely weaken their own drives. So when given the change to save his sons from never ending suffering he took the chance, sadly it was a twisted deal. But at least when he talks to himself he does have some self hatred for what he has become, but must live with it.

Read this comment understanding I am a Blood Angels simp though so heavy bias

The stupidest fucking theory, not only would it make chaos even more of joke, but it doesn't really add anything to the story. Oh the tragic death of sanguinius will be...tragiceeeer, that'll spice things up.

Search for "Top 5 Warhammer 40k Fan Theories"

@@lock376 I'll tell you waht when you can write a reply without useing profanity like a civilized person I might start to care what you think. oh by the way Majorkill himself said "there is a theory that I love", if you can't handle that other people have a different opion on the internet crawl byack under the rock you came from and try to evolve bit.

@@silversurfer8818 I have done, but I like Mjorkill's presentation.

he's already done it

The Angel's goal is to wiped out Humanity, including the Imperium The Angel starts butchering entire Hive Worlds, making Chaos stronger and the Imperium weaker

​@@christiandauz3742 nope he kills enemies of man and that includes chaos

@@jamesygamesy5124 Clearly you don't know the Lore The Angel deems humanity infected with Chaos and started killing every human The Emperor was forced to put him in a special coffin to imprison him for eternity

@Major_Kill18 Okay seriously dude why do you keep doing this? I don't believe you are actually Majorkill. If you are, in the next video you post work in the word 'Boink' into the intro. If that doesn't happen its proof you are just an annoying scammer.

Cause they get less screen time so they have fewer chances to have weaknesses

@Major_kill188_______ Thanks Major!