There's no in-universe justification for Seele's outfit. It just makes zero sense. All the individual pieces of clothing Seele wears don't belong to Belobog (even in the overworld).

@@exu7325 Sampo is the one that gave Seele her scythe.

Clara cannot wear any shoes at all. she can't walk with them on.

​@@Tecco273Yes! I think i heard her express this once

Star rail crusader also does some great videos on the character designs of hsr

@@davernfrazierjr3307 i see. thank you

Yup. Makes sense.

Her outfit should have went for a style like punk with focus on utility. Not a kpop idol that’s constantly at risk of tetanus

her shorts are literally short, i dont wanna sound weird but she probably has a butt cheek hanging out

​@@solarishourglass7800It would be 1 to 1 copy of GGZ Seele if they made it like that

4:53 Luka got that middle school ass drip

WOAH!! Thanks for this! Who would've thought Clara t u r n e d d o w n shoes?? Can't have anything in the underworld...

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsB_fpmCntu1caM.htmlsi=p5RQ-hsIvOcbExzT Basically she twists her ankles while wearing them

That’s crazy cause instead of learning to walk with shoes she risk hypothermia and them adults just let that roll 😭

​@@D41noth I mean she lives underground so it's plenty warm in there

@@automato436In the Robot Settlement there’s snow on the ground

She's quantum and has those weird "glitch" powers. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't from Jarilo and just got there because she traveled through the sea of quanta as a kid and somehow ended up there getting found by nat. The thing is that that doesn't explain her current outfit..

Maybe Acheron got extremely lost and found her way to the Underworld, and gave Seele some of her clothes, albeit downsized.

isnt she from hi3...

@@yooyeongf No that's a different seele

@@yooyeongf No, she shares the same name and some features, but is more like an "alternate universe" version of Seele from HI3 Just like Bronya, who also have a counterpart in that game. Only Welt and his companion that was in the astral express before are straight from HI3 so far

True. SilverWolf and her Planet can literally edit the Data of Reality. Aka they have access to low lever Reality Manipulation which they see as one giant Video game.

Arguably Qingque also works, her entire ultimate literally screams “superposition”, even if her street clothes design doesn’t inspire thought of quantum phenomena.

I’d say QQ likely has some unrecognized power to alter probability. Not only her ultimate being the tile changing at just the right moment. But Fu Xuan who can see hundreds of possible futures, always looses track of QQ as if the probability of the universe give her just enough favor when she needs. One might just call this good luck.

If I may ask, what's a Stigmata ?

Also for me the Quantum element has always been some way to represent other planes or realities/dimensions, while the Imaginary element is more about bending how the world already work and making stuff out of them, but I don't really know how factual this is since I'm not too well versed in Honkai lore

We don't know whether or not she has left Jarilo VI(chances are she hasn't). She most likely came from another planet, somehow ended up in the orphanage, and then you should know the rest.

​@@Loppedofflemons Makes sense. LC are memories so her LC should be something that happened and yet her LC is about her being in a Field of Flowers that likely cannot exist on Jarilo.

@@Loppedofflemons I think she may have slipped into the Sea of Quanta at some point in her past, which would theoretically explain her abilities and the anachronisms in her design.

That still doesn't explain her baffling set of clothing tho xD

@@mikonyx7712 She got it from a pocket world in the Sea of Quanta?

Her designa is really ugly

You can’t say the boob window the the potion choker is comfortable and practical

They can get away with this because the designs are made for 3d models. They don’t have to redraw it all the time. They make a model, slap a texture on it and animate it. And they don’t have to draw it again except for an occasional promo art. If a product is a comic/manga or a 2d animation, one would have to make much simpler designs because of how often he would have to draw them.

It reminds me of Xenoblade 2 in a way. The whole game does in a way.

@@derpfluidvariant0916yes, i always think of xenoblade being a bit similar to these games!! just a bit though

I also think for Natasha, she never has the time to really settle. What doctor gets much sleep? Now combine that with the fact that she does everything else on top of being a doctor. I don’t even think she gets out of her clothes for long.

Oh yeah I kinda forgot that Luka was from another town. It would be cool if they could defeat enough of the Fragment monsters to reclaim some old towns

She looks like an arknigths character

​@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 ehhh disagree

Outworlder means she came from a different planet, not that she came from above ground

⁠@@silvershoelaces3976still, she would have to have come to belebog before there was a separation between the overworld and underworld

​@@chihiro616xshe never arrived on jarilo-VI, she was born in belabogs surface and she moved to the underworld before it was closed but she is native to the planet

i will say (won't spoil the new quest bc it's so new) in penacony the juxtaposition between "nah, i'd win" "take the l" dialogue to waxing poetic about the aeons and dialogue that you need to check the log to reprocess has its own issues. personally i have liked the belebog stories the most when it comes to pure delivery

@@tzxyuaesthetics9338 Nah we'd win is literally one of the dialogue options lol

Same boat. I grew up on American superhero comics, where designs were typical very symmetrical and could easily be understood and broken into segments from a distance. Hoyo’s designs are the polar opposite of that and it’s interesting to look through their character designs and see what works, what doesn’t, and what appeals to my own tastes.

i do agree that both characters' designs are very stuffy for no reason but again it's subjective! personally i still think seele is one of the prettiest and most recognizable designs albeit looking a bit clunky. i love my hsr girlies equally

Double this on the fact that she is meant to be out of place cause the quantum element is by definition opposite to the imaginary element which is where every other pathstrider draws their powers from. She in particular is closely bound to the sea of quanta (to the point that the quantum symbol is Hi3 Seele’s stigmata) and by proxy every version of herself will be almost identical to Hi3 Seele.

…imma be honest I just love the fit and get annoyed when people hate on it lol, but Hoyo’s got millions of dollars riding on their character designs; I’d bet a lot that there absolutely is a deeper reason for it. Or maybe she’s just a badass rebel who says fuck you! I love my funky lil lesbian till the day I die. We believers will at the very least be able to say I told you so if she gets explored more in the future

It gets better w/ the later designs, I think. Acheron is similar to Seele, but imo a lot more cohesive and sleek. Although I think Jing Yuan's design is really nice and he came out at the same time as Seele, so idk...

I much rather have a overdesigned charater then an npc looking ass

Most HSR designs are pretty chill. I have no clue what they were thinking when making Seele’s design💀

Edgy designs 💀

There's actually lore behind, it was said she always falls down wearing shoes and gets hurt, that's why she doesn't wear it.

It was said a group of people gifted clara shoes, but she turned it down.

@@AIA222-yu5ml I mean, that would work if she didn't live in a frozen mine lol. Her feet should have turned black and fallen off many moons ago, Svarog should be forcing her to wear shoes. Between the cold, random machine parts and rocks everywhere.

@@AIA222-yu5mlsee I’m fine with this but I really wish they gave her a pair of long white stockings or something. the bare legs and feet bother me

@@pumkinpatchwork true. Even I had this thought. If she can't wear shoes, why not wear stockings or socks or even sandals.😂

They're probably going to do a luofu design review after they finish Jarilo-VI first.

I personally like the Xianzhou overworld. Like the little garden in the main city area. I agree the floating platforms in cloudford get old quickly. But for example Aurum Alley, Fyxestroll Garden and the Alchemy Commission are some of my favourite areas in the game to just walk around. I dislike the Penacony overworld more tbh... My main problem with the Xianzhou design are the characters. They all follow the exact same formula. All wear a short qipao, all have some form of breast plates, all have detached sleeves etc.

@@drpaimon2369 Oh yeah I agree with the alchemy commsion and fyxestroll garden! I loved walking around too! I'm not saying I hate that world it just wasnt my favorite theres still good things!

@@azolaun fair enough

It feels like Hoyo character designs are, in a way, a lot like vtuber designs. They're clearly not made to be practical. When they released the 4.0 Genshin teaser, I thought Siggewine looked like a vtuber character lol Many of the Luofu's female characters feel very samey to me and their selling pieces are their figures and bra cup outfits. I don't wanna invite any arguments on female character design here but they just never really appealed to me. And I love hot/pretty women in games. And you make me wonder about the audience. Cuz people keep spending for these characters. Like you said, part of it's because they prefer their gameplay, but from comments I've seen, there are still plenty of players who love these designs despite how busy Hoyo's tends to be. At the end of the day, these companies will still put out designs like these despite what we artists think because there are people, mostly non artists, who, like you said, don't really see "busy". Not all because they don't care for the designs, but because they don't know character design.

@@evewhoo Yeah I generalized a bit too much when I said “don’t care for the design”. What you said is closer to what I meant to convey, that they enjoy those designs but do not view them with the criticality of an artist. Which is again, totally fair. As a Fontaine character, I think Sigewinne gets wiggle room to have a flamboyant outfit. That region’s culture is established to be French with a fantasy twist (opera and the theater), so extravagance is a norm. The Xianzhou women I think are more eye candy than they are unique, and I will be quick to attribute that to the Luofu’s status as an obligatory representation of Chinese culture to CN players. This is actually my issue with Ruan Mei, as she is more of a Xianzhou adjacent character than the universe’s foremost leading expert on biology in her costuming. A company like Mihoyo is, arguably, obligated to pander to their native player base. So favoring skimpy qipaos over other potential elements is to be as expected as much as colorism in these games. Much to my dismay 😂

As an artist it makes so hard to play hoyo's games because of the character design, i can't even look at them, but your average gamer doesn't care about readability or color theory or if the design even makes sense, they just see boobs and pretty women and that's enough for them, and if you dare to criticize their designs they will attack you for "hating" on their waifu

@@glyfleballSpeaking on Ruan Mei, the thing with her is that biology isn’t her only interest, she also likes embroidery, elegant designs, and gracefulness. She probably makes her own clothes. I feel like she wouldn’t like wearing the same clothes she might wear in the lab, so that’s why her design is like that. As for where she’s from, I have no idea, her story never says where.

@@Wraakzuchtig While I acknowledge her qipao reflects her qualities as a character, it has my disdain for failing to represent her biologist profession. Design, as a visual storytelling method, has several criteria that Sherpie points out is what makes a design “good”. Two of these are relevant to my opinions on Ruan Mei: world building and characteristics. With characteristics, the qipao does succeed at showing you those sides of her character that you mentioned. But with world building, it falls flat with the exception of the helixes sprinkled throughout her design. Her entire quest/event is centered around characterizing this genius society member as an apathetic scientist who locks herself away to do her lab work for god knows how long, and her status is established as the foremost leading expert at biology. Absolutely none of that shows in her costuming, for at a glance anybody not familiar with the game would either fail to notice the helixes or take them for unexplained motifs. This leaves only one thing apparent to world building in her qipao, the fact that it is a qipao. This ties into the lore of the Xianzhou/Hunt/Abundance, as her lore explains she is from a Abundance blessed planet. I discussed these criteria for designs with someone else, and we found that examples of a character not showing off their hobby or profession in a design is passable as long as their design inherently shows their most important qualities (Clara). And while I agree Ruan Mei’s design does show those qualities, I would argue the biologist angle is the most important defining aspect of her character. It is the foundation for why she is the way that she is, it fuels her entire motivation. All of her traits revolve around this infatuation with the beauty of life and working with that life, and all of her relevant lore and dialogue holds respect to her skills as a biologist. So with that in mind, a design even hinting at a lab coat would have been much more preferable in my opinion. The qipao, for a character not actually relevant to the Xianzhou, just feels like a cop out to make players like an already busted kit. As for how the lab coat would be incorporated, something like Asta but very toned down while still incorporating the qipao would have looked beautiful as a contrast between oriental grace and modern minimalism. It is a minority opinion, but I have found sprinklings of various other people who think Ruan Mei is absolutely boring to look at. And I can’t blame them, when somebody hyped up to be what is a essentially a mad biologist trying to create an emanator of a galaxy wide threat, looks like a wuthering waves ad.