What West Virginia Swing Voters Think About Manchin's Kavanaugh Vote (HBO)
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5 жыл бұрынUpdate May 19 2021: VICE News produced a series of seven panels moderated by Frank Luntz from December 2017 to January 2019. Recently, it was reported that Luntz was on Ted Cruz’s reelection campaign payroll in 2018. VICE News was unaware of this affiliation, and Luntz did not disclose this information at the time of these productions.
West Virginians had been led by Democrats for decades, but they overwhelmingly backed President Donald Trump in the 2016 election. It’s that political reality that democratic Senator Joe Manchin lives in as he faces a re-election fight against West Virginia State Attorney General Patrick Morrisey.
In most states, Trump’s overwhelming popularity would mean a democratic senator wouldn’t have a chance, but Manchin has more than a chance. According to one of the latest polls out of the state, which was conducted before Manchin voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the senator was beating his opponent by eight points.
So what is it about West Virginian voters that allows them to walk a line between support for Trump and support for Manchin and how did Manchin’s vote for Kavanaugh affect their view of the Senator?
Frank Luntz, a veteran Republican pollster, convened a group of 12 swing voters in West Virginia to try to answer that question. People who were chosen to participate either had to have voted for both republican and democratic presidential candidates in the last three elections or if they’ve only voted Republican in presidential elections, needed to have expressed support for Manchin himself. The focus group was conducted on the evening of October 5th, after Manchin had announced he would be supporting Kavanaugh’s nomination.
Some saw his vote for Kavanaugh as a nakedly political move, while others said it means he’s listening to his constituents. But no one seemed particularly happy about the state of politics right now or their choices for Senator.
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@firerunner35624 5 жыл бұрын
We really need better k-12 funding
@PenneyThoughts 5 жыл бұрын
For real. I also found it hilarious that they blame the D's for defunding education "for last 83 years". So do they think R's would do better!?! Laughable.
@Sandlin22 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Statistically it's not a lack of money per student it's a lack of accountability for how those dollars are spent and a lack of requirements to become an educator. For example the average American student is funded by the government 12500 annually but the average Native American student is funded a flat 20k yet statistically Natives extremely under perform in school. So it's not necessarily money it's how the money is spent.
@mainmast8955 5 жыл бұрын
should have started 50 years ago, like they did. start with school boards and work your way up, like they did. never give an inch, like they did. now the electorate are dumbed down to a degree that there is no way to catch up for 50 years and now you are 100 yrs behind. Dumbocrats are too nice and forgiving for their own good. should have listened to the hippies. (ooh, too soon?) if you want to understand, you'll have to read my 27 volume, 3000 page each, treatise on american politics. btw, haven't written it yet. yer on yer own, find a soft place to land.
@cameroncrazie818 5 жыл бұрын
Are you prepared to pay more in taxes?
@sutorcreations735 5 жыл бұрын
We really need to get rid of all funding for k-12. The government shouldn't be teaching our kids. Government sucks at everything they do. Government teaching children is the easiest way to indoctrinate the entire population. Ultimately, when you pay taxes, you are paying for a service. Why would you want to pay the government for that service? When the government messes up, you're still forced to pay taxes. When a private entity messes up, you can chose to stop giving them money. Privatizing schools will create competition, and ultimately make education much better.
@sugarbear7516 5 жыл бұрын
So they vote for people that support more coal mining, but will also deny them access to the Affordable Care Act (ACA) which helps them treat health problems associated with mining.
@adobo1976 5 жыл бұрын
The ACA was full of problems. It was expensive with high deductibles. What we need is universal health care.
@NotShowingOff 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Stone republicans have no problems with the private portion of the Aca. They want it to cost more by getting rid of pre-existing conditions. The Medicare expansions is what they want to shut down.
@jusadude186 5 жыл бұрын
Well X West Virginia off my list of States I'd live in.
@TWE_2000 5 жыл бұрын
Except that they also voted for Manchin, who voted against repealing the ACA. Had they voted for a Republican, that senator probably would have been able to provide the vote needed to repeal the ACA. So they're covered, and are able to have their cake and eat it too.
@NotShowingOff 5 жыл бұрын
TW E the other senator is a republican. And so is the house. If you are correct.
@kyledavis8995 5 жыл бұрын
The guy with the glasses is your stereotypical American. Works at the gas station but is a medical professional on the side.
@anthonya5525 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle Davis 🙌🙌🙌 truth
@indigoesagain 5 жыл бұрын
is that a "prescription dealer" joke or a embarrassed millionaire one?
@90s_ill 5 жыл бұрын
Lexa Garvey lol....he’s A-Know-It-All who knows jack shit except cleaning the slushee machines.
@mrbigpappy85 5 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you’re not American and don’t know too many Americans so you should probably stop showing the rest of the world how stupid you are and shut you’re ignorant self up.
@assiduous2011 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle Davis 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@trajan74 5 жыл бұрын
Opposition to Kava-nah should have been based on his rulings. He's anti-environment, anti-labor, anti-privacy, anti-consumer, anti-gay, pro-surveillance state, pro-torture. And he believe the president may have the right to declare himself an unaccountable autocrat beyond the reach of the law.
@whhe11 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that alone should make him ineligible for a supreme court seat. I find it strange that the DNC doesn't have some lawyer willing to challenge his nomination on constitutional grounds and instead went the route of using Dr. fords testimony to try and influence the vote. They may just be setting him up for later impeachment based on his purgury and partisanship once they regain house and or Senate control. Having the Ford testimony get wall to wall coverage instead of his previous rulings was very odd and worrying though. It makes me wonder about the state of our Republic and our media.
@trajan74 5 жыл бұрын
@@whhe11 To me it sounds like "This evil you believe is fine. You're a corporate shill? That's cool. But you grabbed a woman without her permission 40 years ago while drunk at party. That makes you ineligible." I know they did it to cynically exploit the energy of metoo. Which is sad in itself. You can get a celebrity outrage machine into high gear with assault allegations but not much else. Even the environment doesn't get the play it once did.
@patty2049 5 жыл бұрын
TheScholar74 and a perjurer.
@robothebox6456 5 жыл бұрын
@TheScholar74 I share your opinion, and if I can go further I think its one of the problems with the meToo movement where reason and due process takes a backseat once you are accused of sexual assault
@rand0m0mg 5 жыл бұрын
He is none of that(he is however; anti-big-government), but you are correct in the first point.
@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879 5 жыл бұрын
"All lot of people are uneducated" .....yeah, I'm seeing that.
@steve-O1 5 жыл бұрын
C caymer lmao you’re mad
@lambdachi493 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it fun to make fun of the uneducated people of WV who have been ruled by Democrats for 80 years? Good one NPC keep it up.
@lambdachi493 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you just resorted to an emotional attack. Keep it up NPC!
@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879 5 жыл бұрын
@lambdachi493 ...as opposed to you posting logical fallacies? good call, junior. looks like youre as mindless as you are dickless. see if you can repeat the same insult numerous times...that should prove how 'creative' you are. XD nothing better than being called an NPC from a twat that literally couldnt think of an insult on their own and had to steal it from reddit. when you see a comment that doesnt support the view you hold, you repeat the shit others told you to say. they have a name for that: "In video games, this (A non-player character or NPC) usually means a character controlled by the computer via *predetermined or responsive behavior,* but not necessarily true artificial intelligence." thanks for playing, peaches. ;-)
@lambdachi493 5 жыл бұрын
Where in my posts do you see a logical fallacy? Will you respond to this request? Good one NPC, will you assert the red herring argument without examples next? Also, the NPC meme came from 4chan. Apparently your coders were inept in this regard.
@mochithepooh5368 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if many people know this but sharing a traumatic experience to other people even if that person is your own family it's still very hard to do. I've never been sexually assaulted but I've been bullied in middle school. Even until now(8 years later) I still can't tell the whole story. It took me 6 years to told my family "I was bullied and I need help". I still vomits every time I tell my story. Not telling your story doesn't mean you're weak because you need a special type of courage to share your story.
@ethanbun7270 5 жыл бұрын
wouldnt that be the definition of weak, you still cannot tell your story. LIke come on, its mean, but its not inacurate.
@claireconover 5 жыл бұрын
PoDH O I would argue it’s not even that... everybody handles trauma differently, some lift the emotional burden by telling people they trust, others recoil and deal with their trauma privately. while the choice to deal with trauma privately is a bit risky, some people can do it and be ok. I can say that from experience. not telling someone doesn’t make you “weak”, it makes you tough enough to go at it alone.
@andrewc3236 5 жыл бұрын
It's good to share things like this when you can. I'm sure that you're becoming a stronger person every day by reflecting on how you can move forward. Keep your head up. :)
@mochithepooh5368 5 жыл бұрын
@@ethanbun7270 I know this is something hard to understand unless you experienced one. I don't know if this is the best comparison but it's like asking someone who have been tortured to retell experienced. When people share their story, sometimes tell feel like they relive that terrible experience again.
@mochithepooh5368 5 жыл бұрын
@@claireconover Yes I agree. Everyone handles trauma differently. Hell I met someone who can just brush it off like it was nothing.
@neeneko 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly, proud people are really easy to take advantage of. They tend to be really receptive to emotional arguments, and arguments that tell them what they want to hear.
@slavkopejic3140 5 жыл бұрын
It's clearly an education problem. if someone is saying they will vote for coal jobs because they know of nothing else... Why not vote for free education so at least your children will know better? And maybe universal health care so you can cope with effect of coal mining? You sure won't get those things from republicans or even corporate democrats, but it looks like there are some people in US politics passionate about that. Better future or dark dirty holes where technology is making your jobs obsolete anyway, your choice people.
@sutorcreations735 5 жыл бұрын
We need to get rid of public education and get the government completely out of healthcare. Ultimately, when you pay taxes, you are paying for a service. Why would you want to pay the government for that service? When the government messes up, you're still forced to pay taxes. When a private entity messes up, you can chose to stop giving them money. As far as healthcare goes, you're responsible for yourself. Free healthcare just means it will be payed for through taxes. You shouldn't be allowed to force someone else to pay for your healthcare and education just because you feel entitled to it.
@slavkopejic3140 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not an American, but I'll answer your question. First of all, we don't look at human health as just a commodity. I'm not paying the government, or health care for other people. I'm paying insurance tax for MY health care. Sure, I might not need it right now and some unemployed countryman of mine do and that is OK. Who knows what will happen in the future, he could be employed paying taxes and i could be in his place... When I need medical care I know nobody will ask my credit card first and send me home because I don't have cash. Or ask more money for preexisting condition. Because we all pay and government is not doing it for profit like insurance firm would, it's a lot cheaper and I have ease of mind. Wealthy people can always pay for some extra private insurance if they feel like public one is not good enough for them. Now I have so much questions for you... If you have that Milton Friedman outlook that market is King and government is ruining it I don't understand why would you pay any taxes and have government at all? If people in one of the richest countries in the world in 21. century aren't entitled to health care and education, what are they entitled to? Is it just defense? But if you don't care your neighbor or countryman is dead because he couldn't afford health care, why would you give rat's ass about some Korean, European or Israeli? Why not just maintain nuclear triad so no one will ever attack you and spend 10 times less taxpayers money on military? How come you are not at all worried you'll get sick, loose job and insurance, or not been able paying jacked up preexisting condition prices? It couldn't happen to you, or you just don't care? If that somehow happens, you perish and there is no one to pay for your children's education, you don't mind them working couple of jobs and still not being able to meet ends meet all their lives? How come US seems to be only developed country that think it is more important and beneficial for their economy to have rich insurance firms instead of healthy and well educated citizens? i don't get it. Thanks in advance for explaining at least some of this to me.
@douglasjohnson366 5 жыл бұрын
That’s EXACTLY what I say.
@Valdergrove 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe because they have to feed their family?
@slavkopejic3140 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Underwood As I said, I'm not American, you can not scare me with big bad word like socialism. I lived in communism and I can tell you they are not the same. Furthermore true capitalism or socialism never existed or ever will. The key is in finding the right blend of the 2 so both employers and workers are satisfied, at least in my humble opinion. Your big solution of getting more jobs and raising wages is cunning but you failed to explain who will do what, and more importantly why, in that scenario. I see you gave it a lot of thought.
@GlobalPenguin2012 5 жыл бұрын
I find majority Americans talk more than they think ! Gosh......
@teresadunn1193 5 жыл бұрын
yes they do omg
@jaekash1911 5 жыл бұрын
Then get off our nuts and stop watching American videos
@krusher74 5 жыл бұрын
and they cant handle criticism
@frenchie2700 5 жыл бұрын
@@krusher74 Americans think they are the best. I live here and it is hilarious when you make constructive criticism.
@GlobalPenguin2012 5 жыл бұрын
I have worked with many Americans over the years. There are a lot of very brilliant and talented Americans. They in my opinion are among the best the world can offer. Unfortunately they represent the very best. I was told by them that the majority of Americans especially those living in the more backward states are a totally different story.
@RetroBerner 5 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups
@luv2charlie 5 жыл бұрын
or apparently small groups, banded by the brotherhood of idiocy...
@fightsports66 5 жыл бұрын
@C caymer the first poster has a pic of himself, he is clearly white. The three people who responded to him made no comment about race. So of course your response is about how you hate black people. All you did was make a comment about yourself.
@nickyc98 5 жыл бұрын
Well you just have all the answers don’t you?
@fightsports66 5 жыл бұрын
@C caymer If you felt he attacked West Virginians (and i am assuming you are from West Virginia) then why not attack him ? Or defend West Virginia ? So basically what you are saying is you start thinking about black people. You have black on the brain.
@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the stupidity of a woman who brings accusations 36 years later and expects to be credible.
@sues6847 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, if your wife was abused I find it amazing that she ever told you about it. Ppl like you are the reason women don't come forward.
@patty2049 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the one man said she was weak. She came forward in front of the whole world to tell what happened to her. Ive worked with many women so afraid to testify they’ve asked to have the case dropped or recanted. They are all brave. I wonder if he would still feel the same if it was a black man she had accused instead of a conservative white male.
@seanearnest 5 жыл бұрын
Brave enough to come forward decades later at the behest of the Democratic party to advance a story that has not been substantiated even by her own chosen witnesses. Brave enough to fly all around the globe but to delay her coming to Washington because of a fear of flying. She's a fuckin phony
@Dougie1969 5 жыл бұрын
She wasn't weak, she's a liar
@Kossimer 5 жыл бұрын
And he can't fathom how, even after 40 years, if the person that did that to her was suddenly about to become one of the most powerful people in the country that might change the circumstances that initially led her to make the decision to remain silent? He says it as if he thinks Ford coming forward was completely out of the blue. He says it as if there was no reason at all to not come forward sooner. There's nothing out of the blue about a Supreme Court nomination. Even if you don't believe Ford, it's a fact that she has been disbelieved and ridiculed. That's why someone would not want to come forward and would make the decision to remain silent forever. Until suddenly, decades later, there was an unforeseen reason to change her mind.
@Dougie1969 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kossimer Christine Fords yearbook
@ashleylavergne4327 5 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@teresadunn1193 5 жыл бұрын
this video makes me wonder about people the man called the women weak so therefore what Kavanaugh did was ok.
@chuck366ify 5 жыл бұрын
Teresa Dunn I love a black lady assuming he was guilty when its common to complain about black people being found guilty based on nothing but skin color. maybe if he wasnt white you would think "maybe he is innocent"
@teresadunn1193 5 жыл бұрын
@@chuck366ify you know what you might be right but what he said was still wrong
@thatleftyjames2893 3 жыл бұрын
Kavanaugh didn’t do anything
@magiccitymelkite6161 3 жыл бұрын
That's not what he said. He believes that Kavanaugh didn't do anything to the woman. He said if she was too fearful to tell anyone for 40 years until the guy was being nominated to the Supreme Court then she seems like a person who could be easily convinced of something given that she basically admitted it could have been someone else besides Kavanaugh, she wasn't 100% sure who it was. I do think it was insensitive of him to use the work "weak" though.
@Harry-uq9qd 5 жыл бұрын
Love these kinds of videos
@pepps779 5 жыл бұрын
It is hard to say whether they actually provide anything informative, as one really has no idea how cherry picked the sample is that is being put forth.
@seanearnest 5 жыл бұрын
The kind where Vice gets a transparently biased progressive moderator to prompt progressive responses from a cherry picked panel? Barf.
@MrVedude 5 жыл бұрын
@@seanearnest Damn, you think Frank luntz has a progressive bias. He literally worked for Republican campaigns.
@AllThat-Is 5 жыл бұрын
6:20 "We've had Democrats in control of both houses for 82 years," and the people are still fooled! We don't vote for a party or person based on one or a few issues that we are unhappy with. We vote on their overall track record.
@noeytindol5529 5 жыл бұрын
That guy who said Christine Ford was "weak" is exactly the reason we don't want Kavanaugh on the court.
@Ggv19128 5 жыл бұрын
Man, these episodes almost leave me in tears everytime. These people are economically isolated and economically disenfranchised and it's absolute tragedy our government has ignored them for the last 4 fucking decades. This cannot continue any longer
@felixvasin758 5 жыл бұрын
thank god for this. we need more content like this please. i want to hear what the other side has to say but i don't want to have to watch their networks and read their news sources. this is exactly what can help bridge this divide of understanding one another's needs. real people talking about their reasons for voting, rational or not. thank you VICE
@currymunch6097 5 жыл бұрын
You can not rely on VICE for this.
@lloydspence7114 5 жыл бұрын
I am shocked by people who support Kavanaugh without knowing anything about his record as a judge.
@lucaskyte-tremblay924 2 жыл бұрын
Cope
@gacj2010 5 жыл бұрын
Luntz's wig is killing me
@pitti-sing1203 5 жыл бұрын
The very first comment by Sen. Manchin explains one of the biggest problems in D.C. Serving your country in the Senate or the House of Representatives is not a "career," but a civic duty.
@S2000Pat 5 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of Frank Luntz on the mainstream and lefty news sites. It's always good to see that there are actual people with actual concerns behind all the bs rhetoric. However, I don't seem to see any Democrat pollsters. While I like the insight outside of my bubble, it's important for Republicans to get the same insight.
@wiggy.el.chigon 5 жыл бұрын
S2000Pat to be fair, most Republicans don't want to hear it. Look at all the comments from Right wingers on "leftist' videos. It's all "fake!", "Lies", "Soros and Clinton blah blah". Most "left" commenters just call right wingers "dumb" or "disgusting". (Oh course these are just generalizations, but I think most people can notice this pattern.)
@S2000Pat 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. Well, the people who watch Fox news and breitbart are those idiots. But the people he polls are typically misinformed decent people. I think those people need to hear from the left's decent people. Who is the left's equivalent of Frank Luntz?
@BigRiccc 5 жыл бұрын
I love these Vice/Luntz convos! Awesome to in into different regions of America like that!
@hazard1371 5 жыл бұрын
Love these segments.
@fathersamuel8474 5 жыл бұрын
Another meaningless discussion. Just get out and vote people
@SethGavriel111 5 жыл бұрын
I really like how balanced yet forceful Luntz is. He’s one of the few Republicans I respect these days.
@adobo1976 5 жыл бұрын
"They both told the truth but she is mistaken about her attacker." That's called Gas lighting.
@user-if4df7lk1z 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the state is so determined not to diversify their economy?
@Zulu-Lemon 5 жыл бұрын
“They made us junkies” If that would’ve came out of a black persons mouth who lives in an impoverished area........
@sugarbear7516 5 жыл бұрын
If anyone believe Justice Kavanaugh did not lie about his drinking during that hearing really needs to listen to that hearing again. In addition, think back to that time and what it must have been like for him to be a super jock of privilege. THIS WAS A JOB INTERVIEW not a trial.
@prashantawasthi8842 5 жыл бұрын
So what he lied about his drinking.... though it is up for question....Ur perception about drinking changes in 40 years.... Mine changed about weed in 5 years through college
@ChannelMath 5 жыл бұрын
Prashant, are you suggesting he mis-remembered?
@ChannelMath 5 жыл бұрын
Florian, is your point that it wasn't a job interview?
@pepps779 5 жыл бұрын
This is all your personal opinion, and I am not sure how it being a job interview, even if a rather unique one, changes anything.
@ChannelMath 5 жыл бұрын
Since we agree it's a job interview, can we agree not to hire someone with credible accusations of sex assault, someone who almost certainly lied to the Senate multiple times, and who is a conspiracy monger and does not have a judicial temperment? Is that too much to ask? Personally, I wouldn't hire such a person as a cashier, let alone to interpret the Constitution.
@loantran-thanh7795 5 жыл бұрын
This man kept repeating “40 years to open her mouth” is despicable. He can have 3 daughters and a wife who was sexually abused, he still does not get it
@lindseyhendrix2405 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that has me so pained and baffled. One would imagine that would *fire someone up*.
@peter8488 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly these type of people are repeated over and over again in every state, too simple minded to see the truth right in front so the vote all over the board.
@iosca40 5 жыл бұрын
My country was always divided (left or right), but not expose to the main public. With Trump, people opened their mouth, and visibility become clear.
@PhatboyHD88 5 жыл бұрын
They sure as hell dont see the big picture
@nopartyaffiliation7434 5 жыл бұрын
What's the big picture? Send more manufacturing jobs overseas and call them racist for not supporting your agenda?
@ilikeiguanas.2337 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Glasses Guy: 40 YEARZZZZ
@GingerGingie 5 жыл бұрын
Now publish the full, unedited interview.
@TheCullousus 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly I'm sure there was plenty more said here. Probably opinions vice didnt like to share on their channel because it doesn't have their interests.
@trixiebeldon579 5 жыл бұрын
It's on HBO
@ChannelMath 5 жыл бұрын
Lol@ the guy with glasses! pretends to be hard-headed, but when asked why, it's all about his FEELINGS! and his ability to believe two contradictory claims at the same time is ... weak
@tracieyudichak2315 5 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!!
@chuck366ify 5 жыл бұрын
ChannelMath at least he votes his mindm. not like a sheep
@ChannelMath 5 жыл бұрын
@@chuck366ify eveeryone *thinks* they vote their mind, and can even come up with some sort of personal rationalization, like "feelings", but that doesn't mean he's not acting like a sheep. After all, some of what he says is verbatim Fox News talking points
@chuck366ify 5 жыл бұрын
ChannelMath fox news had to get their talking points from somewhere.. could have been from talking to people who think this way. stop thinking this is top down.. its bottom up
@ChannelMath 5 жыл бұрын
either way, he still would be "a sheep" (unless by some amazing chance he was the first guy to say it)
@plop4493 5 жыл бұрын
Bet all the people in this room are related
@catherinestickels2591 5 жыл бұрын
Saying "40 years" over and over to drown out the woman who is trying to politely explain the dilemma he has. It's honestly sickening.
@jordan2d2 4 жыл бұрын
I went to West Virginia University. High paying jobs are pretty much non existant if you don't live near the university or the capitol.
@shirohiyabushi 5 жыл бұрын
old tactics. divide and conquer.
@wiggy.el.chigon 5 жыл бұрын
渋谷広志 well, who is conquering?
@nuance8530 5 жыл бұрын
If republicans wanted a more unified country they would have picked any of the other 24 super conservative un-tainted judges.
@shirohiyabushi 5 жыл бұрын
us citizens diveded into ignorant strong majority and weak minority by trump. then trump uses ignorant majority to conquer USA.
@jcgw2 5 жыл бұрын
There is lots of ignorants in the 2 sides. republicans want to send all transexuals to a mental hospital, and democrats wants to send to jail anyone who refuses to date one.
@shirohiyabushi 5 жыл бұрын
@@jcgw2if you believe such conspiracy, you are cognitively-challenged.
@juandeldiablo696 5 жыл бұрын
Is pretty frustrating to see Americans outside the NJ/NY area not understanding or even trying to understand who trump really is
@nopartyaffiliation7434 5 жыл бұрын
Well Trump is a con-man I agree but he basically went Left of the Democrats with his economic message. Whether that message is true or not is another story.
@juandeldiablo696 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Underwood if he was so successful he will have no problem in showing his tax returns, there is a good reason no bank in NY will lend him money
@joeshimwell1269 5 жыл бұрын
these videos are thrilling
@bballstar30 5 жыл бұрын
A slave tho? If you have free will then you're not a slave. No body is making you be an addict, or live on government assistance. Even if I don't agree with everything said, now that they have said what the problems are...who are they going to vote in to fix it? The moderator was great, I love how he actually stopped for a second to address the woman who survived sexual assault. That was a powerful moment of why people do and don't come out and tell their stories.
@ejaylala1 5 жыл бұрын
The guy calling a victim weak is a horrible human being
@adobo1976 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting conversation. While I don't agree with their choices I can totally understand where they are coming from and why they are making those choices. You want them to give up coal? You need to replace those jobs. You want better jobs? Improve education. You want lower addiction? Improve access to health care! What's unfair in this country is education funding being tied directly to property taxes. All schools should be equally funded.
@SplotPublishing 5 жыл бұрын
No one is asking them to give up coal. They need to get it through their heads... coal is leaving THEM. Not the other way round. THERE IS GOING TO BE NO MORE COAL. It's just going away, whether they like it, or not. it's already going away, which is why they have so few jobs. No one "had better" do jack shit but THEM. Get off their asses, and get to school or move or vote for someone different. Because Joe Manchin is NOT going to get them jobs, and Donald Trump is NOT bringing back coal... no one is. Get it? The teachers in that state went on strike to get paid better after years of being denied adequate funding BY THEIR STATE. It's not local property taxes that are the problem. It's their STATE. It's their anti-union bullshit. It's THEM and the people THEY elect. If they want better, all they have to do is demand it, and vote for it. It's not rocket science.
@adobo1976 5 жыл бұрын
@@SplotPublishing That's one way to see it. I might see it that way too if they didn't vote.
@openthemind1244 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, they can't complain about education, healthcare and being "slaves to coal" when they VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SUPPORT education, new jobs, or healthcare. They're literally in a self-sabotaging loop but are too stupid to realize it.
@adobo1976 5 жыл бұрын
@@openthemind1244 They can complain as long as they can vote.
@fritolaid6805 5 жыл бұрын
But that's the thing H Clinton's speech was taken out of context by right wing media she didn't actually say she wanted to end coal. She said she wanted to fight climate change while keeping people employed including in coal jobs and diversify west Virginia's economy so they're not so dependent on coal. One part of her speech was taken way out of context and used by the right to get them to oppose her.
@dalicloud9 5 жыл бұрын
wow. this is quite the interview.
@catherinestickels2591 5 жыл бұрын
Wow...people really don't understand how sexual assault and traumatic experiences work. They clearly did not watch her actual testimony, where she explained the scientific principles behind how memories are stored and how that fits with everything she said.
@jasonrelucano5680 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I close my eyes I can't see.
@jzk2020 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently, west Virginia is the Mississippi of yesterday.... let's just say its HELLA racist.
@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with being racist?
@radial2074 5 жыл бұрын
Senators are supposed to vote for what their constituents want. That's what they wanted.
@TheToledoTrumpton 5 жыл бұрын
My problem is when women say, "Women are equal to men, women are as strong as men, women can do everything a man can do", and then when women fall short in men's eyes, either in terms of courage, strength, or morality, they say, "Yes, but it's different for women." You just can't have it both ways, either you get treated like a man, or you get treated differently, because things are different for women, but you can't flip-flop between the two, depending on which suits you best. You just are not going to get any respect that way.
@warriorsrule9350 5 жыл бұрын
West Virginia should probably become an independent state.
@drgenmo8340 5 жыл бұрын
Country roads, take me home, to the place I belong, west Virginia, mountain mama, take me home country road
@catcherzw 5 жыл бұрын
Magen Ervin songs actually about Western Virginia, not West Virginia actually😂
@jonperkins4460 5 жыл бұрын
I was actually searching for this comment.
@Z3r0Sk83r 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for it. Thank you.
@misstracy9296 5 жыл бұрын
No thanks ..compared to that place I would rather be on "the highway to hell ".
@VenusAD 5 жыл бұрын
Just because you have a loved one who has experienced trauma DOES NOT mean you know what trauma is. I'm so sick of people related to survivors using them as a shield for their own ignorance on these issues.
@user-gt8ee8ib2e 5 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna need a summary of what just happened
@MrHowhot 5 жыл бұрын
Joe sold us out
@nychellebrewer 5 жыл бұрын
I wish Hillary had spent time with coal mining families in the Appalachian region, and then gone in there with genuine compassion and support for those who are currently losing those jobs (which, although horribly dangerous, also paid well for people without college degrees for generations). And after that, she should have talked about specific alternatives, training initiatives, subsidies, green energy apprenticeships--just described in detail what comes next, because coal really is going away as a major source of fuel, and there's no sense in pretending otherwise.
@mr.peanutbutter6969 5 жыл бұрын
Was is Dr. Octavios the host for this show?
@brokendoll4116 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a 30 year old women and I thought the same exact thing as the first man's opinion, who said "If she's that weak, she couldn't speak out for 40 years." "All of a sudden she has the strength to speak out now , suspicious timing." Don't apologize to those women, who are listening to your opinion because they're offended. You are all there to give your opinions. To freaking bad, if they're offended, they need to nut up. Facts not feelings.
@danigimenez7797 3 жыл бұрын
You are a disgusting person. Facts not feelings 😉
@rocker4577 5 жыл бұрын
"He's like John McCain..."
@indigoesagain 5 жыл бұрын
Can I take up a collection to punch overweight, butt-chin goatee, glasses brown shirt?
@indigoesagain 5 жыл бұрын
I have lady family members, and they aren't weak because I know them
@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын
For telling the truth?
@nickleary1982 5 жыл бұрын
Scissors and glue is what this video feels like
@Jon-mb7cp 4 жыл бұрын
Guy in the pink in the front is not a swing voter. He’s a republican campaign staffer.
@Fazzelgaming 5 жыл бұрын
America looks like the sovjetunion in the late 90, Blame the system😂
@Drumsgoon 5 жыл бұрын
Lol they got off the Democrat's plantation
@trajan74 5 жыл бұрын
What are you belching about? WV is one of the most conservative states in the union. Sure the state is led by Dems but it goes Red every 4 years. Most of it's Federal delegations have been Red.
@Drumsgoon 5 жыл бұрын
@@trajan74 they almost literally say it at it end of the video!
@SplotPublishing 5 жыл бұрын
Uh, no. Manchin is a Democrat, and Trump has not brought back a single coal job. Idiot talking points don't make for good debate points.
@w.s.soapcompany94 5 жыл бұрын
WV makes a good argument for poll tests of aptitude.
@loantran-thanh7795 5 жыл бұрын
The main problem in that country is that there are only 2 parties, which I think is ridiculous. Most of the democracies have several parties with various ideas, various programs, but a country like the US only having 2 is so weird
@Fazzelgaming 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't FBI talk to the other people who were at the party??? America is So corrupt and people say " America is the greatest country on earth"😂😂😂
@shayisrael6137 5 жыл бұрын
because the other people said the party didnt exist
@TheCullousus 5 жыл бұрын
The two party system is two wings of the same shit bird. The faster you learn that the better.
@EuriEuropa 5 жыл бұрын
I voted for trump but it's unfortunate how toxic politics has become.. I'm not voting republican again unless a regular one comes by again..
@EuriEuropa 5 жыл бұрын
Aqua Fyre Charlottesville wasn't left wing.. The shit show in the white house and this entire administration isn't left wing.. All the firing, quitting, books, finger pointing, making the American people distrust the media, etc. All trump.. You sir, are blind if you think all of that is because of the left LOL
@EuriEuropa 5 жыл бұрын
Aqua Fyre no other administration in history has had as many people come and go as Trump white house.. Sorry but just caz I voted for him doesn't mean I'm going to be ignorant to what's going on
@EuriEuropa 5 жыл бұрын
4browsing if you want to take it there we could go there, I don't think Trump can stop the military industrial complex
@EuriEuropa 5 жыл бұрын
4browsing if Israel or Saudi Arabia needs us to invade another nation, believe me, trump isn't stopping a dam thing.. And hold tight because another war is coming soon.. Regardless of who is in office and what party they represent..
@EuriEuropa 5 жыл бұрын
For all we know this entire process could be a sham.. And we are being fooled.. But the only thing I know for certain, ever since trump took office, I've experienced more racism and hatred than any other time in my life.. The presidents actions influences the people.. People are like sheep.. Trump says fake news and people repeat it.. Trump calls someone a liar and people repeat it.. Trump calls Kim little rocket man and people repeat it.. It's like people can't think for themselves
@rossjohnson2611 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. "40 years" is ignoring that she had discussed this with people years before the Kavanaugh nomination.
@Tupelo927 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just...stunned by this video. Well, stunned and embarrassed.
@shadowdrift5574 5 жыл бұрын
Either way, its 4 more years of Trump, yay!
@SolosSpirit 5 жыл бұрын
what's funny from outside the shithole US is that people like you don't realize this is bad for you too lol probably even more than for the leftists
@AvgJane19 5 жыл бұрын
That's not math. 2 years left. Where are the additional 2 years coming from
@user-bu4dp1di6v 5 жыл бұрын
@@AvgJane19 Exactly, lmao
@monicac1147 5 жыл бұрын
Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Smh
@SolosSpirit 5 жыл бұрын
It is very bad on several points, while the deep rooted economic politic lead by Obama is in fact bearing good fruits, Trump support of bad industries like coal, his support of conservative lawmakers, his support of nazis, corrupt, violent and racist cops (Arpaio...), his apparent distrust of facts and the fact that he lies all the time has set you, as a country, on the topic of social progress and equality for a all a hundred years back. He's been most divisive and doesn't care to bring everybody to the table, he's more like a child obsessed with firing people. Colored people, LGBTQ+, women, leftists, and all oppressed classes of societies are alienated by him moreso than any other modern right wing president. His election might have been fixed and he wants to stifle the investigation of it. I won't even get into his character, truly abhorrent and paradoxical for a Republican "family values" man, but he might be an outright felon or even worth. Stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes? For years? Helping his father evade? 450 millions??? Tell me evan, how many defunded hospitals is that? How many people dying in hallways does that account for? How many schools not having the ressources to buy the good books? But here's the thing. I think you know. I think you know he's bad, despite the constant propaganda. I think deep down, most Trump supporters are not really stupid, they're just partisans... of a stupid ideal. But they won't care for the facts anymore. And that's pretty sad. I mean I don't care, I'm not a US citizen but it's truly startling to see that I know more than most of them.
@digiryde 5 жыл бұрын
If we are to hold our leaders accountable, then we have to first hold ourselves accountable.
@rtatluri01 5 жыл бұрын
The worst part about this is that they truly believe that the coal mining jobs are gonna come back... coal is from a different era... it’s sad because many of these towns were established based around this mines... same with railroad towns... the reality is that their going to need to learn how to adapt and the best way to do that is push for free higher education so they can have an opportunity at jobs that are better for them and their families and not having to be dependent on a single industry. It’s a sad story that’s all to familiar across America... ford motors in Detroit is a good example
@brendaroosma4097 2 жыл бұрын
the video image is too poor, you need to fix it more
@anitac197011 5 жыл бұрын
They all have mastered double- speak and hypocrisy. Unbelievable!
@StevenSanchezWelding 5 жыл бұрын
What was used to destroy one community, in turn, affected all communities.
@mr287s 5 жыл бұрын
Why did Vice hire Frank Luntz to do these focus groups? For most of his career, he’s been a GOP operative, not a pollster. He’s been behind some of the most far-right policies going back 25 years. He invented the phrase “death tax”. He helped shape Newt Gingrich’s messaging and the “Contract With America” in the 90s. He’s responsible for a lot the divisiveness in politics. He’s an extreme partisan, and not someone any objective news organization should have conducting focus groups or polling.
@thrangu1 5 жыл бұрын
Look at how this man says a woman is weak because she never told anyone about being raped.
@maxglide 5 жыл бұрын
The dude using “weak” definitely has abused women
@GokuFievel32 5 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth I believed the woman who accused Judge Moore because he never denied it. This Ford woman comes out of nowhere and doesn't remember anything except she had one beer.
@timberho3935 5 жыл бұрын
I like how they blame their problems on someone else.
@momof372 5 жыл бұрын
West Virginia is one of the most beautiful states in the nation.
@Dliciousization 5 жыл бұрын
Lol holy shit these people. I can't even.
@danielsmith9130 5 жыл бұрын
The direction of this video makes me question some things... Not necessarily W.Va, but something doesn't feel right, perhaps the editing or agenda of the editing...? Am I the only one getting that vibe?
@AISB12 5 жыл бұрын
I just can't relate.... I wish every American in high school was fortunate enough to travel the world.
@maddesthatter8089 5 жыл бұрын
Yoooo i love frank luntz
@BackshopRailProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I am very proud to be from West Virginia!
@tiffanylang8253 5 жыл бұрын
OMG. Where is the common sense? Please teach these people to read and comprehend and then give them information. These people are terribly confused. It's sad.
@basenvy 5 жыл бұрын
Why was that lady in the center green? She was in a state of Half-Hulk transition
@astartejones4841 5 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOODNESS.
@lydiabell6218 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but it is not the Reps who help people on public assistance.
@jctai100 5 жыл бұрын
I can see this for a lot of states
@MrLarrythehacker 5 жыл бұрын
Man that guy with the glasses drives me insaine.
@danteferrise6742 5 жыл бұрын
Though it didn’t end up even really making a difference...I am still glad that Morrisey didn’t win!
@princepretty7476 5 жыл бұрын
Who won't be visiting West Virginia!
@Kyle-pj2vc 2 жыл бұрын
Guy who is saying "40 years" is a legend. Lmao, I'd vote him for president.
@NewHorizonIS1 5 жыл бұрын
The largest factor, by a WIDE margin, that has eliminated coal mining jobs is Automation. The fact is that because of technological improvement the same coal deposit that took 200 people a year to mine a few decades ago can now be done by 8 people in 6 months. The only political policy that could possibly bring back coal mining jobs would be the banning of such technology. Thinking otherwise is to simply misunderstand the situation
@KeeganVera 5 жыл бұрын
My needs. Lol please government help me!!
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