What trucks you ride? I was thinking of switching to thunder 148 and 8.25 board, but I may space them out using a wider wheel for more truck, not sure if lack of baseplate contact on thunders will make tailslides etc a challenge. Want a good pinch on rails not sure if those new powells will lock up.

I personally used to ride narrow Autobahn style wheels 51mm, but getting back into skating and I used to ride venture 5.0 so I've got a bit more truck to work with may even go to 8.5 deck and 149s. Don't want to see my wheels but right up to deck is good. 👍🏿

@Ty Dye Skate faster. Conical Fulls should be kicking those pebbles to the side like they're nothing. I've only ever gotten stopped by a pebble on my Spits when I'm skating at a slow speed.

Correction , hard wheels are faster in skateparks or smooth concrete Softer wheels are faster on craggy crusty streets .

Correction: Hard wheels are faster on smooth surfaces. Softer wheels are faster on rough surfaces as they are better able to absorb vibrations while maintaing contact on surfaces.

Hard wheels have more rotations per second than bigger and softer wheels. With this being said because of their size and hardness they remain restricted under a certain speed/stability. After a certain speed they max out due to the vibrations that often cause harder wheels to hyper plane ever so slightly while going forwards down hills. (This means the wheel is literally sliding and jumping over parts of the concrete while still being propelled forward by the inertia and movement given by the skater.) That’s why soft wheels were created, to go faster and further with what ever speed we had. The bigger wheel sizes makes cracks and bumps less noticeable as well as the softness allows for your energy to be displaced and absorbed better over any surface. Ever wonder why we sweep our spots or don’t use our park setups for street, this is why.

OJ,Slimeballs, and Speed Wheels never stopped making mid-90's, high 80's durometer wheels. In large sizes as well.

​@@vorpalbladesyou mean mid 80s?

Glad you approve tried to get a little Luis mora at the beginning haha

feel free to post links to more up to date information

@@localjoe iirc they went over his setup on his Nine Club appearance

@@localjoe kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLp2dtiW06eue2g.html

This is true from what I know also. I got the spitfire classics and conical fulls in 97a, 53 and 54 mm respectively.

I was gonna say the same thing. Them park burners are so old they don’t even make em anymore as well as the street burners. There f1 series was ass and made me not like spitfire anymore so I stoppped wit them and went to bones. But 97 are starting to come back spitfire makes f4 in 97 for the softest f4 and bones jus released there x formula which suppose to be better than the dragon wheels where it feels like a cruiser wheel but still have the characteristics of a street hard wheel where u can still slide

Most skaters don’t understand this stuff anyways so at least now you know!

What…? Most skaters care very much about “this stuff”, and everyone has their own preferences when it comes to wheel size, shape and durometer.. And this video is not super in depth, it barely scrapes the surface. He’s not accurate at all, leaving out several sizes and is wrong about the ranges in durometers as well.. Jesus Christ… people are so blind and uncritical when watching videos like this.

Thanks man! Put in extra time with this one i'm glad it shows!

Appreciate that!

Also, I have seen where pros have a motorcycle pull them to get speed to do tricks. I have to think that if they had bigger wider wheels, maybe that wouldn't even be necessary.

I'm 42 and have been skating since 1985, and since you mentioned the mini logo 63mm/80a , I wanna ask if you've heard of or ridden the Slimeballs 65mm/78a ? (Swirls) I have a an old school Santa Cruz 9.5 setup with those wheels and Series 3 mini logo bearings, and I've never had this much speed in my life ! Seriously for some reason the setup is so much faster I'm able to go down hills and make it to the top of the next hill without putting a foot down. They dont slow down until I reach flat ground !

@@burtman9649 I skated back in the 80s also. I've heard of Slimeballs, but, haven't tried them, at least in recent years. I'm not sure I had any in the 80s, but, friends did. I'm assuming what you have is comparable to the AWOLs I mentioned. Lately, I've been using the 55mm ones and have come to the conclusion that while the bigger ones are a bit faster, the 55mm ones are still good enough and are more reasonably sized as far as wheel bite goes. For example, I'm able to use them Mini Logo trucks and Thunder trucks, both which are low and don't have much of a wheel bite problem with them. I never really hear people talk about it, but, I actually think the wheel width almost makes a bigger difference than height. If I remember correctly, the 55mm AWOLs are around 35mm wide. I think the 63mm ones are wider still. Maybe around 40mm. Powell just came out with some 93A ones called Dragons which are supposed to be soft enough for better handling rough surfaces, but, slide like a hard wheel. I ordered some and they are supposed to come in tomorrow. I will see how they compare to the AWOLs. My guess is that they will be significantly slower because they are only 56mm high and 22mm wide. I think the soft wheels may help the vibrations which help the bearings turn better. I've only used Mini Logo bearings. So, I don't know what the difference is wit different bearings. I don't want to get into that. I've already spent a ton of money trying different wheels and trucks.

@@idmhead0160 Skate 1 has a lifter kit that comes with the mini logo wheels, bearings, hardware, and half inch risers for only $49.99 which ain't a bad deal at all !

@@idmhead0160 focus board shop has it for $37.98

Thank you sir!

In my opinion it's the spitfire classics formula four. I like the 52 mm 99a.

i would go with spitfire formula fours. i personally find bones wheels to feel too plastic-y,

I use both spitfire formula fours (got both classics and conical full) and Bones STF V5 on different setups. Bones are a bit slippery on smooth surfaces but I like them both for different reasons.

Both are good I feel like for more tech stuff classics could give you and advantage but the conical will probably feel better riding

Mate, I'll reply to this if my Powell Dragon wheels have arrived

They are awesome! I have three different dragon wheel setups. 52 mm V1, 54 mm V1 and V4 (wide). They're legit a game changer for me personally as I usually skate pretty rough street spots.

They are so smooth and buttery , everyone likes them

I have bones Stf 103A and the SPF 82B and god the 82B are way too fucking hard for even getting to the skatepark a couple blocks away, the stf are a bit better but tbh spitfire F4 99a is the best durometer for all around street skating not soft at all but not miserably hard

@@booboocachoo5090 thanks for the reply dude. I actually ended up getting sp 99 f4 52m, and I’m loving them. I agree they are definitely softer than my spf 84b’s.

I always ride bones now I have 97a spitfire hatred them putting old thrashed bones back on I like hard wheels

Everyone realized they're shit. Step it up...

52mm is pretty perfect imho, basically nobody skates under 50mm nowadays but that 50mm may be a good starting point to get used to modern sized wheels coming from early 90’s bearing covers haha

@@Paulie_Walnuts89 Powell Dragon 52s for a couple weeks now. I'm in love with them.

From what I found. Only Satori makes wheels in 98a. I HIGHLY doubt most pros skate Satori wheels, lol. No shade on satori tho.

AMEN BROTHER

When

Does he Skate? That would be Biblical 😂

Will he riding a skateboard?

Guess he did not return within a year. Will let you know if he has returned by next year.

Yea

I ate shit tryin to go over them yellow sidewalk nipples with chrome clouds 78A but not yet on some old 102 mini logos i had with the skateboard i found. I felt more confortable without the bounce for the tricks or at least ollie up the curb.

I notice a HUGE difference in 92a and 99a. Even in 95a and 99a. Just try to do some powerslides and you should notice the difference too.

Na this is just dead wrong. Even 99a vs 92a is a huge difference in how the wheel feels, especially smoothness and rebound wise.

Oust or quantum ?

thanks for the comment it helps more people see my video so i can continue spreading all that ignorance! Cheers kid

thanks for the comment it helps more people see my video so i can continue spreading all that ignorance! Cheers kid

A scale doesn’t exceed 100. It’s a marketing ploy.

@@LegalSkateboarding this guy knows it, the scale only goes up to 100

Alva has a 101A

I just put wheel on my old nash board from the 70 s