WHAT WORKS? LS TURBO CAMS AND BOOST RESPONSE! DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH BOOST DOWN LOW? 4.8L AND 5.3L!

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DOES A MILDER CAM HELP BOOST RESPONSE? DOES A TURBO CAM HELP BOOST RESPONSE? HOW CAN I HELP BOOST RESPONSE? I WANT IMMEDIATE SPOOL UP! HOW CAN I IMPROVE THE BOOST RESPONSE ON MY TURBO LS? THESE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS, BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS, DID THE TURBO OFFER A BIG CHANGE IN LOW SPEED TORQUE REGARDLESS OF THE CAM I SELECTED? WILL I HAVE ENOUGH TRACTION WITH THE ADDED TORQUE FROM THE BOOST, EVEN WITH THE "WRONG CAM"?

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@NightWrencher Жыл бұрын

I love the intro of this one because the person asking those questions is looking for a specific answer so by redirecting their question, you can have them work out the answer on their own.

@infamousnova Жыл бұрын

👀🤔

@rogerstill719 Жыл бұрын

Kind of like a Doctor lol

@NightWrencher Жыл бұрын

@@rogerstill719 or a psychiatrist 😂

@tenandwill5252 10 ай бұрын

Losing low end torque = not getting into trouble on the streets. when I first started with turbo ls’ so had a 5.3, 317 heads, and an early ls6 cam. 3400 stall 3.42 gears.

@burnz3132 Жыл бұрын

As always your data is awesome!! I like seeing the combo’s, & moreover the shift in the bands.

@ohfugit Жыл бұрын

@Richard Holdener You had really good energy on this one. I enjoyed the video

@timdontwannasay5889 Жыл бұрын

Looking good Richard!

@terrywillis5784 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks again.

@saltydogg- Жыл бұрын

You've convinced me to leave the factory LS9 cam in my 5.3l and just boost it with a smallish turbo. Maybe add cnc ported heads later on. Should be fun on the street.

@blow0me Жыл бұрын

It's very easy to ramp boost/torque in as you wish wit a fast responding setup, than to try and make boost lower down with a setup that cannot achieve it. So a responsive setup is the best of both worlds

@BLKMGK4 Жыл бұрын

Whoa, a VIDEO that's not streaming?! Thank you!!!

@andy347495 Жыл бұрын

So much for your poll on the live last night.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

THIS VIDEO WAS ALREADY BEING POSTED AS MENTIONED IN THE LIVE FEED-BUT THANKS FOR THE COMPLAINT

@andy347495 Жыл бұрын

@richardholdener1727 haha yeah, I was just surprised. There was some sarcasm there too. Still appreciate it.

@andy347495 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 you got my hopes up and broke my heart😢. Lol just playin

@philipperron1810 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Let's see a video sometime of a cam degreed and no degreed on the dyno...that could be shocking to some.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

DOUBT YOU SEE MUCH ON A TYPICAL LS CAM, BUT WE DID ON OHC AND DOHC CAMS (ESPECIALLY ON mOD MOTORS)

@streetwise85 Жыл бұрын

Love these vids truly useful info. Wish there were vids out there of truck builds pulling moderate loads of moderate hills with best mileage with or without boost big or small block tire n wheel diffs etc. Example: my 94 Chevy dually 2wd with its 350 carbed vortec (not tbi) pulling 3750lb car on 16ft trailer up hill best tune for holding torque best mileage. Then boost then tires then gears where could I find these studies.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

you will not get good mileage on a motor pulling a trailer up a hill-best to get a diesel if you want mileage for that application

@streetwise85 Жыл бұрын

Exactly yes I'm just wondering if 20mpg can be achieved with a carbed small block 350. Or even 16 to 18 in any way possible. I once heard of an 06 gto in Dallas was twin turbo and tuned got 48 mpg I know it's aerodynamic and not pulling but there's gotta be something out there for us non diesel guys. But thanks for ur time

@orr89rocz Жыл бұрын

Talk about boost response and dont show any of the boost curves? I thought you were trying to show how cam timing will influence boost threshold

@bleach_drink_me Жыл бұрын

Always like seeing things like this. Kinda unrelated: Trying to talk my wife into agreeing to another build.i want to mess around with a 4.8l but she keeps telling me 5.3l or bigger if I'm doing another build. I maybe able to convince her once I finish my ea888 build I just started 😄

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

5.3L IS BETTER IN EVERY WAY-EXCEPT FOR BEING A 4.GREAT

@bleach_drink_me Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 oh I know it is but I want to get me a taste of that 4.great goodness with boost.

@bradenvillalobos7598 Жыл бұрын

you should run the btr stage 2 turbo cam na

@W_riz484 Жыл бұрын

Just match your torque converter to your cam and you'll never even notice the drop in torque down low, as you'll rarely be there anyway. Maybe with tcc locked up🤷‍♂️

@horsefly1020 Жыл бұрын

Unless you have a manual.

@freyja4954 Жыл бұрын

On fwd applications you ever put cams in or put a larger turbo on to reduce low rpm responce and torque to help the transmission last?

@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын

Usually larger turbo or even bigger cams are going to hit harder just at a higher rpm that may not necessarily let the transmission live longer

@rogerstill719 Жыл бұрын

The larger heads is what was responsible for the low end power loss. Forced induction needs more exhaust

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

@msk3905 Жыл бұрын

??? Why do you think that you are forcing air through the head, remove the restriction then air can pass through easier.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

the amount of air the motor (not just the head) will process (i.e. how much power it makes na). It is not just the head, it is the cam and intake and displacement and compression etc...

@rogerstill719 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 too big of a head per cubic inch slows the air down as far as forcing air through I was referring to forced induction

@isawul00k Жыл бұрын

Leeeeets gooooooo!!

@andy347495 Жыл бұрын

I heard you say something about posting this video on your live last night. I got to ask what's the point of the Poll then? Is it just to help your analytics?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

PLEASE GO BACK AND WATCH AND LISTEN AND LEARN...I SAID I HAVE A VIDEO GOING UP LAST NIGHT-THE NEXT VIDEO WOULD BE 8.1L

@hondatech5000 Жыл бұрын

Go response for the crane stage .1 😅😅😅 Fauxgan not so much 😢😢😢

@zacharygray3442 5 ай бұрын

5.3 truck Norris cam and boost for me

@hotdog9262 3 ай бұрын

stock cam and boost for me. tons of power and vvt is good for drivebility, torque down low and better mpg but im no expert

@chevyluv7216 Жыл бұрын

@Richard we need a test to see how much power a stock LS iron block can hold before letting go?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

so far its 1543 hp and stull alive

@chevyluv7216 Жыл бұрын

If I’m not mistaken whipple has made over 2000 hp on the new L8T block and crank.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

didn't know we were having a contest-thought you just wanted to know strength of the ls block

@chevyluv7216 Жыл бұрын

@Richard I didn’t mean it as a competition just that the new blocks have gone over 2000hp. Thank you for a great channel and great content. Look forward to the next video

@jakefischer88 Жыл бұрын

Curious about a turbo set up for towing on a 2500hd truck with a 6.0 interested in what size turbo and what cams you would recommend

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

STOCK OR TRUCK NORRIS AND GT45 IF ONLY LOW BOOST

@jakefischer88 Жыл бұрын

Yes would be low boost 6-7 psi possibly 10-12 if it’s doable not really a budget build just want it to work good so I could do forged pistons a cam and probably head studs

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

a gt45 won't do 12 psi, like I said "Only if low boost"

@jamesb5010 Жыл бұрын

@Richard Holdener Do you think a .030 over 6.0 LS with a stage 4 turbo cam be able to sufficiently spool a 88mm turbo in a drag race application?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

what heads and intake and power level?

@jamesb5010 Жыл бұрын

Haven’t quite narrowed those down yet. Nothing too exotic but plan to use a set of rec ports with 660 lift springs. Not sure of which intake yet either. I’m looking to make around 1100-1200hp.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

you don't need a stage 4 cam for 1200 hp on a 6.0l, and don't use 660 springs, use something smaller that is closer to the actual lift (should be near .600)

@jamesb5010 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the educated advice. I’ve already purchased the cam but not the springs. I will take your advice into consideration when I do pick up the heads and springs.

@oldudesrule Жыл бұрын

What turbo was used on the 5.3 ?

@jakeholt8794 Жыл бұрын

I would like to know what turbo was used on the 5.3 as well!

@Scandalous3pedals Жыл бұрын

What injectors were in the 5.3? 210s?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

WE HAVE 80s, 120, and 150s, but no 210s

@AdamOpheim Жыл бұрын

Isn’t there basically 1 cam grind that will produce the most average NA HP from say 3500 to 6500 on a “stock” 5.3? Why wouldn’t you want that exact same camshaft when running boost? Why would anyone want a wider LSA and lower overlap “turbo cam”? When they can run a tighter LSA more responsive “NA style” cam w more overlap that makes more AVG NA HP across the RPM range they choose? ESp. if running twins or a large single with 1:1 BPR.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

THERE ISN'T 1 CAM GRIND THAT WILL MAKE THE MOST POWER FROM 3500-6500 RPM

@AdamOpheim Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 So say one grind in an NA race application will net you the quickest mph at X weight over Y distance. Basically 1 grind will do the most work from A to B in a ¼ mile and a 100% factory 5.3. How would the valve events or profiles change with a turbo application? When an NA style cam with a tight LSA and optimized overlap makes more average power and has better response NA. Why not run something similar to that over say a “turbo grind” with wider LSA and less overlap.

@davidreed6070 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 I'm scratching my head over that answer.

@pimpovic2 24 күн бұрын

@@AdamOpheimlots of overlap and tight LSA will have you blowing boost out of the cylinders because of the timing events of that type of setup. Less overlap is beneficial in a turbo because it helps keep/build boost pressure in the cylinder thereby spooling a turbo more efficiently. Especially if you close the intake side a touch sooner and let those exhaust gases out to spin the exhaust turbine. You don't need the overlap on a turbo car in the same way that you need it on an NA car. On an NA car it's helping to pull in intake air as the stroke cycle continues. But with a turbo the air is being forced in, therefore using the exhaust to pull in air becomes a moot point. At that point you're just losing pressure. By closing the valves sooner (overlap) you're keeping the pressure in, thereby making more power. At least, that's my grasp of the subject.