Listening back to that I do agree that it sounds like I'm just talking about Adora 😅 I feel like her actions are mainly determined by what both Adora and Shadow Weaver, and I agree that ESPECIALLY that is the case with Shadow Weaver leaving to go find Adora. That hurt to watch.

Yess her character is so complex and I really feel like she was always a good person at heart, she was just too scared of getting hurt to truly let other people in.

Yess 👏 And can I just say how much I love Double Trouble 🤩

Yess that’s a great idea! I’ve been wanting to reread those books and what with the new movie coming out and all. I’ll definitely try to do one sometime in the future 👏

Thanks! I love her character so much 👏

Yess I love it so much 🤩

WHAT- what does shera have to do with masters of the universe???

I can agree with that. I love her arc so much, but I do think that her change of heart was a little quick. My personal favorite example of a villain being accepted into the hero's group is Zuko from ATLA. I think that his struggles to be accepted into the group are done really well 👌

I know what it's like to think a plotline is a little rushed. I think about season 8 of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. In the middle of the season, the character Cozy Glow is introduced, a filly pegasus. And in the season finale, School Raze, she's revealed to be the big bad.

Yess this is so true 👏 his character is such an interesting one and didn’t even think of it this way, but this is such a cool analysis 🤩

@@WritingWithAsh I tend to focus more on villains and analyze the heck out of them. I’m also a huge lover of character types where there are multiple different characters who (in whatever way) are so connected to each other that they’re basically the same person or different aspects of a person. That’s why I love stories that involve clones or reincarnations because it’s always fun seeing how each one will differ from the others.

@@Zekrel Yess 👏 I'm a total villain fan, which is why so many of my videos tend to be about them 😆 Are you a Star Wars fan by any chance? The Clone Wars animated show (and The Bad Batch spinoff) really explore the clone characters and how they each have their own identity.

@@WritingWithAsh Yeah I’m a bit of Star Wars fan. I’ve seen all the movies and I watched both the Clone Wars and Rebels. I was surprised how much they made me care about the clones. I cried when that horrible stuff happened to Fives. Not to mention order 66

@@Zekrel I'm a huge Star Wars fan and Clone Wars and Rebels are probably my favorites too! Outside of The Bad Batch (video about that coming out today, actually 👏) I care so much about the clones 🥲

I honestly didn’t really think about it that way, but I appreciate you pointing it out!! That does add another layer. I do agree that I could have delved a bit more into Catra’s heroic side, and might do a video just about her in the future. She’s complex enough to warrant it!

​@@WritingWithAsh A video about Catra's heroic side? That would be fantastic! Most videos about SPOP here on KZfaq are frustratingly simplistic - and completely wrong. They portray Catra as a mentally ill failure instead of the clever and hard-working Force Captain that she was. They portray Adora as a saintly saviour instead of how the showrunner herself described Adora: “A Slytherin (trying to be a Gryffindor)”, who is “very strong but very flawed”, who made big mistakes, and for whom her relationship with Catra was not as important as for Catra. A video about Adora's Slytherin side would also be very interesting! The writers wanted to teach kids that a hero is not someone who is perfect (and therefore unattainable by real people), but rather someone who learns from their mistakes and doesn't give up. "What Writers can learn from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power about Writing better HEROES".

@@lastunicorn846 Yesss this is an amazing idea!! And so well put🤯

Yay I’m so glad you liked it! Honestly, making this video gave me such a greater appreciation for Shadow Weaver. Ooo it tells me I’m gonna like your protagonists 👀

​@@WritingWithAsh What's all this silly stuff about how protagonists always have to do the right thing? And- what was that you said? They have to be "good people" and have "morals"? Hah! Good one- but it's not like those are real options if you want to make a difference. And y'know why "pro" is in the name? Stands for "proactive". And to make them relatable, they should be socially awkward, and unaware of others, and- screw that! Let's make 'em as manipulative as Shadow Weaver! There's a difference between "protagonist" and "hero", is what I'm getting at here.

@@HenryGray-sy4pu I want to read this book 😂

@@WritingWithAsh Glad to hear it.

I agree with that. My only problem with Catra’s character arc was how quickly she was redeemed, I personally like when it takes a long time and you can really see the slow evolution. Something I feel like Avatar did really well with Zuko.

Thanks, you’re too nice 😊 And yes, you definitely got to watch it!! The show is so good. The villains alone are enough of warrant a watch, but I honestly love all the characters.

Yeah I realized that in post production but it was already too late 😅 sorry about that! But thank you 😊

I had it on while I was doing something else, and after awhile it just tunred into "POV: you're on a walk through autumn leaves, while the person you're with talks about she-ra"

@@jadegecko LOL at least I made it atmospheric 😂

I'll be honest I gave up after 2 minutes due to the sound quality...

​@@WritingWithAshur cool tho

That’s a good point! I think both kinds of villains server purposes and can be executed really well for the benefit of a story.

Yess you should!! 👏 honestly making this video made me feel the same way 😆

Yess this is so true! You should totally make a Catra arc essay, that would be so interesting! (She’s my personal fav).

Thanks so much! 😄

Yess he’s such an interesting character. I think that he’s a great villain and the way he shaped Hordak as a character is very similar to how Shadow Weaver shaped Catra, which I think is interesting. I think to really dig into his character I’d have to go back and revisit some elements of the shows tbh

@@WritingWithAsh Well, I've thought a lot about SPOP over the last year or so (since I came to it VERY late), and I think that Prime is a real problem, in a way - he's severely underwritten. By that I mean, there's really "not a lot of there, there." I think the more you look, the less you'll find. In my opinion, he really is merely the big, bad guy (Morgoth, Sauron the Great) with a few quirks put in to make the character a little bit interesting. And maybe that's a good thing, from an overall series perspective - giving a whole bunch of "back story" to Prime would just have distracted from the real stories here, which is all about the emotional growth (and healing) of the principals.

@@petercoo9177 I can get that! I'm currently working on a character analysis video for next week and a big part of what Im talking about is how characters can act as catalysts for other characters; forcing them to adapt and ultimately acting as a tool for us viewers to see other sides of characters. Reading your comment, I feel like that's sort of the role Horde Prime plays. He pushes Catra to realize she doesn't want to be a villain anymore, he manipulates Hordak into losing his feelings of self-worth. At the end of the day, he's there to affect the other characters more than he is to be a character in his own right. So while he's not as detailed as the other characters, he works as a very good plot device. Imo, at least.

If anyone wants it, I made a backstory for horde prime: So his name was Anillis Kur (80’s refrence) and he was a scientist of his planet. He had a son named Hec-tor Kur (another 80’s refrence) who was a soldier, and also brothers, whom he was close to. One day, the first ones came to the planet. The planet’s leaders tried to make peace with them but they got fooled and the first ones, being the conquerors they are, completely destroyed the planet and Hec-tor was one of the first to defend against them, and he died. Anillis was the only one who survived, but after getting through the grief and rising from the ashes, he decided to clone his entire species, and especially his son and brothers. He tried to clone his son first, he uploads his memories into a new body, and thus, Hordak was born. Then Prime set out to destroy the first ones empire and made the clones into and army and made his son the top general. During his conquest, he met Mara, he was going to destroy her and the first ones who’d settled on Etheria, but he grew to like her, and they became friends (and he started to like her as more than a friend). But once Mara found out the truth about him, he turned against him, then he reveals his backstory to her about how the first ones destroyed his planet, and now, knowing the truth about the first ones, Mara sets off to rebel against her leaders. But Prime, feeling betrayed, he feels that no one will have to go through any of whatever stuff he went through if he either “brought peace” (aka destroying the entire universe). So he sets off to destroy everyone, and then, he finds out about the defect in his son’s cloning. He tried desperately to save him, but nothing worked, then he thought if he just sacrificed all his emotion, he wouldn’t get hurt again. And then he developed his “everything must be perfect mentality”, then he erases most of his son’s memories, sends hordak to die, and spop happens, so… yeah, that’s basically it, what do you think? Sry it’s so long lol, I tried my best to make it as short as possible, but you know, a lot of backstory, so… yeah…

@@user-mb9bl8kw8s It's a pretty good backstory, but I wouldn't really ever consider Horde Prime someone worthy of sympathy. I think it's more likely that he's just someone who was never told "no" and had the power to back it up, just like most RL cult leaders.

Yess thanks 🤣 I don’t know if anyone else noticed but I tried to copy Catra a bit 😆

​@@WritingWithAshi noticed! Though with your hair, it also resembles Glimmer's fantasy self during that dnd episode

@@TheCanderemy Ayy 👏 I didn't even think about the Glimmer resemblance 😂

I will write a villan like her or Simone another from this sad show for my orginall story.

Ooo good luck with your project! And yess Catra is my favorite too.

Thank you so much!

Yess Catra's arc is so sad when you really think about it 😢 I do love Zuko though. He and Catra are probably my favorite villain character arcs.

@@WritingWithAsh you know something funny ? Even without an abusive background, I still managed to understand so much of what she was saying and doing, simply because they were things I studied in History or heard of being done in businesses, and what not. Her relatability/realism is just so well done.

Thank you! As an abuse victim, it drives me crazy when people misunderstand that aspect of her character. It's not to excuse what she's done, but it's a realistic, and in my personal opinion, a relatable and helpful image of what abuse can do to a person. Adora was the hero because she broke out of that cycle and environment, and Catra could only follow suit and stop being the villain when she realized that too.

@@misfits9294 I'm glad I helped you a little.

Thank you!! 😊

Yess 👏 I looking back I liked how Hordak and Catra felt like different stages of the same person’s life. I’m so happy they were able to break the cycle.

Avatar is sooo good. Zuko is one of the best villain redemption arcs out there 👏 And I love Gravity Falls! One of my favorite shows of all time, Bill is iconic.

Thank you!! 😄

@@WritingWithAsh By chance would you ever be interested in sharing your thoughts on the show rwby itself?

@@eren34558 I'm gonna have to watch it first 😅But I do keep hearing about it and am meaning to give it a try! And after I do I would definitely do a video on it 👏

@@WritingWithAsh The strong muscular blonde girl and the Cat girl have kissed in this show too. However there's still one season left which means that the show will be Exploring a lesbian relationship together.

Maybe they’ll get their own spin-off 🤔 idrk their characters tbh cause I’ve only seen the reboot, not the original.

@@WritingWithAsh, She-Ra exists because of Masters of the Universe being popular with girls in the early 80s. It even outsold Barbie. Also, Hordak was sold under the Masters of the Universe line back then. The term Grayskull in the ‘By the honor of Grayskull’ chant refers to Adam’s and Adora’s ancestor King Grayskull, who ruled Eternia from Castle Grayskull.

@@brandonbaggaley2317 Ohhh I didn't know any of that LOL 😂 😅

They couldn't have them because of legal reasons.

He really doesn’t, he’s such a good one!

How did S5 character assassinate Adora and Glimmer?

@@lastunicorn846 Adora was DONE with Catra. She made that very clear at the end of Season 3 and throughout Season 4. "One good thing in her life" could have very easily been one of Catra's manipulations to get Adora to feel indebted to her. Adora's smart enough to know that after all the times Catra pulled that kind of shit before. Adora would have ONLY saved Catra out of obligation. After that, she would have wanted absolutely nothing to do with her. She spent years of her life breaking out of that abusive relationship so she would have treated Catra with the same suspicion that she treated Shadow Weaver. Glimmer would never have been friends with the bitch who as good as killed Angella. Her mother was as good as dead and Glimmer not only never even brought it up but was getting chummy with Angella's killer. At best, she would have given Catra a grumpy thank you for saving her, then want nothing to do with her after that. That's how Adora and Glimmer were character assassinated. They regressed back into being "innocent, naive, ridiculously easy to manipulate" instead of the hardened badasses who took none of Catra's shit that they were in Season 4.

What? I think Glimmer and Adora reacted very in character, considering the circumstances

Yea, I do feel like glimmer got sidelined, but how were adora and hordak pushed aside? Also, don’t insult wrong hordak! He’s my baby!

😂

I do think that Catradora is toxic in the beginning, but by the end of the show Catra is trying actively to change. And I mean… Hordak is a difficult situation that could only really exist in a show or a book.

@@WritingWithAsh just saying that it doesn’t seem to justify their actions. Look at joker and Harley Quinn, the twilight series, beauty and the beast. Everyone goes in saying it is toxic, but catradora isn’t? She destroyed world and cost glimmer her mom, blamed adora and even helped horde prime. Is there favoritism in this ship? Also hordak caused all this. He could have done better, but still decided to kill people. It’s weird and I don’t like it all much