What You Should Never Say To Childfree Women

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The Financial Diet

The Financial Diet

3 жыл бұрын

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In this episode, Chelsea talks openly about the kinds of things you should never say to a childfree woman, and cites ample research illustrating why a childfree lifestyle isn't an empty one.
Voluntary childlessness study: www.mckendree.edu/academics/s...
Falling fertility rates: www.usnews.com/news/healthies...
U.S. paid parental leave: www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...
American loneliness: www.aplaceformom.com/caregive...
Nuclear family: www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...
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@thefinancialdiet
@thefinancialdiet 3 жыл бұрын
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@sheri-anngeorge4307
@sheri-anngeorge4307 3 жыл бұрын
I read that article on the nuclear family and i have serious issues with the author's so called "analyses" and conclusions drawn. In my opinion, he made the cardinal error of conflating correlations with causation. Even so, he did manage to point out one thing that rang true.... that the problem ISN'T the nuclear family model but the lack of support systems. Nevertheless, i believe this video was a good way to open the discussion and air various views on the topic at hand.
@sirenthomas4595
@sirenthomas4595 3 жыл бұрын
There's one aspect I think wasn't discussed is adult child parent estrangement often if the elder person has no visitors chances are as a parent and person they were not great ....there are studies on this and parent adult child estrangement is on the rise in america ...
@believestthouthis7
@believestthouthis7 Жыл бұрын
I now know your "secret" for financial success. Just don't have children; they interfere with financial prosperity and "cost" too much. That's a pretty big boost to the bank account.
@sydney6268
@sydney6268 3 жыл бұрын
I wish more people understood that it is far worse to be a bad parent than a non-parent.
@devlinfae
@devlinfae 3 жыл бұрын
Yuuup.
@crackasscrackle
@crackasscrackle 3 жыл бұрын
Collecting responses for nosey ppl, keep em coming
@missminti
@missminti 3 жыл бұрын
Can't say I have ever met a "great" parent. They are always messed up in some way.
@kittymervine6115
@kittymervine6115 2 жыл бұрын
Bless you yes. My brothers were afraid to have children as our dad set such a bad example. I had children but only because my husband came from a good family and helped me learn what to do... and then my dad complains he hasn't any great grandchildren.
@carmelmulroy6459
@carmelmulroy6459 2 жыл бұрын
I know that's so upsetting
@JP-sk1fu
@JP-sk1fu 3 жыл бұрын
I find the "Don't be so selfish." to be the strangest thing to say to people who don't want to have children. Like, how am I being selfish when no one is being affected by my descion except for me. The children in question don't exist and never will.
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! I have kids and I feel like having them was a totally selfish decision.
@prachiasharma311
@prachiasharma311 3 жыл бұрын
True, I'd define selfishness by having kids and then giving up on parenting, which is the most crucial part.
@bri3449
@bri3449 3 жыл бұрын
It’s jealous people trying to guilt you for being smart. Hate to word it this way but they feel envious because they’re already “stuck” with theirs so everyone should have to suffer, lol.
@spring12431
@spring12431 3 жыл бұрын
@@bri3449 Unfortunately, this often appears to the case. I think the selfish thing comes from some people thinking that you should want to or be willing to give up your whole life for another person, but if I don't want children really I am preventing unnecessary resentment and hurt (on my part and the part of unborn kids). Whatever..no point in reasoning with some people.
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
@@bri3449 I'm sure some people who are unhappy and maybe did not want kids in the first place do that! I personally am very happy especially now that the kids are a little older I reap the benefits of all the work and it's awesome. But I don't see why I would tell anyone they have to have kids just because they make me happy? I know very well that it's not for everyone.
@butterflymuse2707
@butterflymuse2707 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you going to do when you're old?" Wheelchair race with you, Gladys, at the nursing home your children dumped you in because they were too busy with their own lives and own children to take care of you 🤷‍♀️
@lolixxxx988
@lolixxxx988 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!! 👏👏👏👏
@EricaShand
@EricaShand 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty great to me, tbh!
@HolyDevil56345
@HolyDevil56345 3 жыл бұрын
Love it 😂
@JessicaMiller-pc4dj
@JessicaMiller-pc4dj 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best thing I have read on the Internet this week 👏 🏆and I'm obviously going to steal this.
@rachta7495
@rachta7495 3 жыл бұрын
Witty
@shey6050
@shey6050 2 жыл бұрын
"Are you just afraid you'll mess up your body?" This sounds so vain but its such a real concern. Your body becomes permanently changed by pregnancy and its okay to not be okay with that.
@catspaw3092
@catspaw3092 2 жыл бұрын
There was a scene in a movie starring Chris Rock where he brings his gf to meet his family & his parents asked about him & her having kids & his gf said with a grin "Nope, I'm not messing up this body" & everyone got quiet, awkward & uncomfortable .
@CordeliaWagner
@CordeliaWagner 2 жыл бұрын
Changed? A ripped apart vagina is severe damage. I enjoy sex to much to destroy my vagina. You will be widened and maybe numb forever.
@zhangqiling8086
@zhangqiling8086 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree! Especially when not everyone can do plastic surgery or go to gyms to do intense exercising to regain their body shape. Some people already suffer with body image issues and they for sure don't need more insecurities added to the already long list.
@bawseeeee602
@bawseeeee602 Жыл бұрын
Talk about narcissistic vanity
@Andrea92_91
@Andrea92_91 Жыл бұрын
@@bawseeeee602 How is it narcissistic vanity? Have you ever had kids?
@MsSassyMT
@MsSassyMT 3 жыл бұрын
As the mother of 2 childless adult daughters, I get hit with the questions too. People literally ask me when I'm going to be a grandmother, as if I have any control over it, or that I even care if it happens. People need to mind their own business.
@victoriamather2267
@victoriamather2267 3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
you are awesome!!! so many mothers pressure their grown-up kids to "make grandbabies" (😱) I have two young daughters and it's none of my business if they choose to have kids later.
@MsSassyMT
@MsSassyMT 3 жыл бұрын
@@surlespasdondine thank you. Usually I tell people that I have 2 grandpups and a grand GP (guinea pig). Those are my grandbabies.
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsSassyMT 🤗
@AB-kd9et
@AB-kd9et 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@Professormillard
@Professormillard 3 жыл бұрын
I always knew that I didn’t want bio kids. I got judged. We decided to adopt just one when we were 34, and got judged. Then we ended up liking parenthood more than we thought, and have since adopted four...and have been judged, judged, judged. There is just no winning as a woman. I’ve had to learn the hard way to tune people out.
@madelynnaustin8223
@madelynnaustin8223 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you got to take in so many loved children! You're also supporting those birth mamas. Best to you and yours.
@myconfusedmerriment
@myconfusedmerriment 3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that people are so judgy, because that’s an awesome story! Someone really will always criticize us no matter what we do, so I’m glad you didn’t listen.
@7ScarletRoses
@7ScarletRoses 3 жыл бұрын
To the people judging you: whyyy? Without you knowing you did not want biological kids, those four kids might not have loving home right now?? (Also, way better for the environment and overpopulation) People puzzle me 0.o
@myvids718
@myvids718 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you! You literally saved the lives of children whose parents weren’t ready for them. That’s awesome!
@NinjaFalllow
@NinjaFalllow 3 жыл бұрын
Do people not understand how difficult the adoption process is?! Dealing with heartbreak and the financial challenges of adoption deserves major kudos.
@Stephanie-hn3yn
@Stephanie-hn3yn 3 жыл бұрын
I personally am tired of hearing that the reason women aren’t having kids is because they’re pursuing career goals. I’m 31, single, don’t have any kids... and I don’t have any aspiration to go further in my career than where I’m at now. Hearing people say “I’m not having kids because I’m accomplishing all these things” just makes me feel worse for not having kids AND not being ambitious. I’m not having kids because I know how much work they are, how expensive they are, and how important having a healthy support system is in order to give the child the environment they need to grow into a happy and healthy adult. I have too much debt, haven’t been able to find a stable partner to pursue having children with, and am estranged from my family. There are more reasons for being childless than just “being too ambitious” and I honestly don’t think I’m the only person in this boat.
@sunnydoom2726
@sunnydoom2726 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I am not an ambitious person and don't want kids. They are a lot of work and I know what I can handle and kids would be pushing it.
@giuliazumba158
@giuliazumba158 3 жыл бұрын
Totally valid!
@abbieC88
@abbieC88 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! You and I are the same person 😂. This was so refreshing to see someone in the same situation.
@elyca6329
@elyca6329 2 жыл бұрын
I would be your miror. I'm currently pregnant and I'm happy to become a parent, but I'm also ambitious in my career, I want to develop myself professionally and it's been clear since day one with my husband that, between him and I, if one would have to sacrifice their career path for parenthood, it would be him. And people already judge me for putting my career "before" my child (who is not yet born, let's not forget) ¬.¬
@77Tadams
@77Tadams 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you sista! Preach! Why do I have to be accomplished? I have a few things I have accomplished, but damn. It’s always like....well what do you do if you don’t have kids? Well, I live! The end. I live. Why do I have to explain a complicated set of goals and aspirations for your ignorant self. I now at 44, married just say , We are a childfree couple. If you have other questions about it, I explain we both chose not to have kids. I don’t ask people about their bedroom practices or birth control practices. What makes it ok for someone to invade that if I really don’t know them?! If I get to know them and then want to discuss it fine. I don’t owe any of that to a stranger....
@coneil72
@coneil72 3 жыл бұрын
"Are you afraid of messing up your body?" Um....yes? Like, not wanting to go through a deeply traumatic and physically debilitative experience is...sensible?
@ivanamueller3318
@ivanamueller3318 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the mental toll it takes.
@imFUNsized20
@imFUNsized20 2 жыл бұрын
No on really talks about the horror of pregnancy.
@elizabethevelyn7125
@elizabethevelyn7125 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm making peace with the fact that I don't want to experience what to me translates as literal body horror
@safala
@safala 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethevelyn7125 Same. Not to mention, I am extremely insecure of my body as it is so going through pregnancy would absolutely not be a great choice for my mental health which in turn, would not be a good thing for my hypothetical biological baby. If I am going to take care of another living being, I’d like to be mentally, emotionally and financially capable to take care of them.
@robertat.8817
@robertat.8817 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I have been struggling with my weight my whole life. And I'm already really uncomfortable with my body. The idea to put on that much fat scares me. I would never got back at my shape that I don't like either. Even if I'm at regular size now I could potentially became obese and taking care of child in those conditions doesn't seem like a good idea....
@carolynb.9469
@carolynb.9469 3 жыл бұрын
My childless plan for old age is to be the rich aunt that all my nieces and nephews are nice to so I'll leave them my fortune. And that's how I'll make sure I'm taken care of! Lol
@Christianna271
@Christianna271 3 жыл бұрын
😂 this is a great idea
@meanoldbag
@meanoldbag 3 жыл бұрын
kinda sounds like your plan is to 'pay them off' to be nice to you - what if you're not rich or they're not interested?
@Mondoshawn
@Mondoshawn 3 жыл бұрын
Ewww that's so not cool on many levels. Just go into a fancy retirement home instead of messing with other people's children like a psycho.🤣
@average_coverage
@average_coverage 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, I had a great aunt like this. Yeah, it absolutely does work. Also remember, you don't need to actually be rich, just give off the vibe.
@lilianneweinhandl8493
@lilianneweinhandl8493 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an only child who doesn't want to have kids, but I could be the rich/cool aunt to eventual kids that my brothers in law could get and otherwise I'll just be the rich/cool "aunt" of any kids that friends might have. I would hire professionals to help me get dressed, take a shower or clean the house if I can't do that anymore, but avoiding ending up alone doesn't mean that you need to have your own kids. I know plenty of elderly who do have kids, but still only get a few visits a year at most and not even from their own kids in some cases, so I really don't understand the people who say "but what will happen to you when you're old?".
@msthing
@msthing 3 жыл бұрын
I have three babies: my resume, my bank account, and my travel experiences. They are healthy and growing, so blessed!
@tashibalampkin8555
@tashibalampkin8555 3 жыл бұрын
😂 I like that. I'm stealing it.
@Cinthiasaraiva
@Cinthiasaraiva 3 жыл бұрын
good one hahahahahahah
@LoverOfSesshy
@LoverOfSesshy 3 жыл бұрын
Nurture them and they will grow 😁
@pipertarver1852
@pipertarver1852 3 жыл бұрын
Savage 😂😂😂😂 Ok!! I'm using it!!!
@pugluvnapril79
@pugluvnapril79 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic answer!
@rdpcl
@rdpcl 2 жыл бұрын
"You don't know what you're missing" is such a dumb argument for anything, not just kids. You're right Karen, I have absolutely no idea of what it's like to be a mother, which is exactly why I don't feel like I'm missing something. And having a kid just to know what I'm missing is a bit extreme.
@scorpionqueen66
@scorpionqueen66 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm not missing out on anything, like a crying baby all night long, toys and food crumbs everywhere, teenagers with attitudes and other unnecessary bullshit that parents have to go through!!! No thanks, I'm good!!! ✌🏾
@godsire6217
@godsire6217 Жыл бұрын
I know right, just a typical response from someone just being lazy.
@minefallen
@minefallen Жыл бұрын
Can I say I do know what I'm missing when I, the eldest daughter had to raise my siblings. I was practically a stay at home mum since I turned 5. Now I'm continuously working hard to make my life safe, financially secure, content, working on my advancing my career, rather than having kids at 20 and giving them the exact life I grew up with, that I've been working so hard to escape from.
@YourMajesty143
@YourMajesty143 Жыл бұрын
@@minefallen - Same, raised my siblings since the age of 10. It was enough "hands-on experience" to grant me retirement from motherhood entirely. I've experienced it and I know I'm not missing a damn thing. I'm happy I did what I did, bc I raised intelligent emotionally well-rounded individuals, but it was mayhem. And while the trial definitely scratched the "biological clock", it also put it on permanent SNOOZE lol. I don't ever want to see or smell a diaper again. I do not want to deal teenagers ever again. I don't want to drop another dime on them either. Even into their 20s, they still continue to suck my wallet dry. So whatever cocktail these moms must be drinking to see "motherhood" so rosy, I unfortunately couldn't have the pleasure of numbing until I was already 11 years into it.
@ZRRRRR
@ZRRRRR Жыл бұрын
Ikr , never knowing = never losing bc that 'loss' isnt recognised! LOL
@catladytrucker7608
@catladytrucker7608 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 51, don't have kids, and I absolutely cherish my freedom. I also have a very high degree of self-actualization. Ladies, there's absolutely nothing wrong with not having children.
@rosem6604
@rosem6604 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 54. No kids by choice. I can attest that there has not been one day in my life that I'd regretted it. No emptiness, no sense of loss or having missed anything. My reply to "missing something special" is - having the change to become the best you and closest to yourself because you have more time, energy and many times more alone-ness, it's priceless to me. Call me selfish, but at least I don't inflict that on kids... :)
@spring12431
@spring12431 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear, Rose! Glad you’ve been enjoying your childfree life. :)
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
awesome!!!
@wcwright44
@wcwright44 3 жыл бұрын
71 and no kiddos and that’s been my thought since 18. Until our society thinks more thought should be put into the choice to have children instead of the opposite, we’re lost, IMO.
@rosem6604
@rosem6604 3 жыл бұрын
@@wcwright44 Yah. We have a 25 years old couple next door. They're having a second child (not planned) while the mother is still struggling with having a 1+ years old daughter she didn't really want... turns out - HER mom didn't really want kids either.. I hope they put away money for therapy...
@wcwright44
@wcwright44 3 жыл бұрын
@@rosem6604 - Don’t you just hate to hear stories like that?
@CW-ri1ug
@CW-ri1ug 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who grew up in a household with parent who had me for the wrong reasons, it sucked being treated as a burden and resented. I’d rather regret not having children than to regret having one.
@pipertarver1852
@pipertarver1852 3 жыл бұрын
❤☺❤☺❤ You will be blessed. I'm sorry you had a parent like that.
@QuietlyCurious
@QuietlyCurious 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. This.
@casondrastinson8525
@casondrastinson8525 3 жыл бұрын
THIS. I tell people this so often and they think it's ridiculous. Some have told me is ridiculous because I'd obviously be a great parent. But I remain ambiguous about it. I'd love to have 3 kids (really) but I would want to give them a specific lifestyle. And while we're making good money, we don't have the balance I'd want quite yet.
@vickiecordon7887
@vickiecordon7887 3 жыл бұрын
Being unwanted and unplanned really sucks especially when you reminded of that everyday.
@raquels.
@raquels. 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@thelucynicola
@thelucynicola 3 жыл бұрын
When people ask me about my life choices, I always respond “if you’re minding my business, who is minding yours?”
@Tymala1
@Tymala1 Жыл бұрын
That’s a good one! I’m always looking for new responses!
@user-lm5do6ww4f
@user-lm5do6ww4f 3 жыл бұрын
My dad called me "a dead branch on a family tree" Thanks, love you too
@fabricadefritanga
@fabricadefritanga 3 жыл бұрын
Oofff that's a mean thing to say, specially from a parent to their kid. I would have answered something like "I like to think of myself as a white blood cell, doing my part to stop the spread of a cancerous tumor" (but in an innocent, almost happy voice) Then again, my mouth has gotten me into trouble a lot in my 34 years of life :P
@devlinfae
@devlinfae 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you had to endure that. :(
@dalia2122
@dalia2122 3 жыл бұрын
That was awful... 😞
@CadeD679
@CadeD679 3 жыл бұрын
@Mathilde Louise I love it!!!! I am stealing that!
@shibolinemress8913
@shibolinemress8913 3 жыл бұрын
How horrible to have to hear that! 😥🤗🤗
@randizimmermann1570
@randizimmermann1570 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always baffled by the "Don't be so egotistical" argument. What on earth could be more egotistical than thinking to yourself, "You know what this world needs? Another, smaller version of me!"
@zucchinigreen
@zucchinigreen 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@susanholl5994
@susanholl5994 3 жыл бұрын
I think the idea is motherhood forces a woman to always put their kids wants/needs before their own. Child free women don't have to do this and can put themselves first. But I wonder how many actually are that self centered? I doubt too many. I have kids. One of my best friends is childless by choice and my kids' treasured auntie.
@7ScarletRoses
@7ScarletRoses 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking you have any right to judge about another person's major life decision also sounds extremely egotistical to me! I have always known I want to have children, but I still greatly appreciate that neither my parents or the parents of my partner of five years have ever asked about grandchildren
@leahmanderson298
@leahmanderson298 3 жыл бұрын
Bitter language like this is not productive for the feminist cause. I have 2 children and never once thought, “I need a smaller version of me!” Do you seriously know people who think this way? My relationship with my family is the happiest part of my life, and I wanted children to create that for the next generation. I love many people (including family members!) are child free, and want different things out of life. I respect them all the same. Could you extend that respect to women who make different life choices than you?
@Garsnoos
@Garsnoos 3 жыл бұрын
@@leahmanderson298 I think you took this a tad too personal. I believe OP was talking about those people who call us childless people selfish. They weren’t talking about all moms and especially not you. Seems like you were waiting for an opportunity to get offended
@dawnbolton6024
@dawnbolton6024 3 жыл бұрын
My 1 and only daughter has decided to not have children. Raising her as a single mom I truly understand the cost of raising a child and the cost for college. I will not be a grandmother. She puts a lot into her friends and her family I feel I am blessed with my daughter and wish her nothing but happiness.
@bluejedi723
@bluejedi723 3 жыл бұрын
and hey, if you want grandkids, you can always go become a mentor to kids. Or volunteer with kids or something. Anyway- love and hugs
@jazzyk4046
@jazzyk4046 3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a great and lovely mom! Thanks for sharing! 🌷💝
@anaalves3658
@anaalves3658 3 жыл бұрын
I have a single daughter as well, she is only 6 but she knows that it's entirely her decision to have or not have kids some day. My parents never nagged me for grandkids, my in-laws on the other hand 😠😠😠😠😠. I lost my temper with them and we both told them to butt out of our lives.
@racpatrice
@racpatrice 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being understanding
@krissyk9767
@krissyk9767 3 жыл бұрын
Its great that you have this attitude. You can't make the decision to have children for someone else. My mother is always saying she wants grandkids. It annoys me because i dont particularly want children, and shouldnt feel pressured to have one just so she can have a grandchild. If she loved children so much she could have had more, or adopted/fostered - that was her choice
@cindyi8471
@cindyi8471 3 жыл бұрын
I had an ex co-worker completely befuddled when I told her I didn't want to get married or have children. She then proceeded to tell me children are the greatest blessing from God and if God really loves me, he will bless me with a husband and children. She's lucky I didn't report her to HR.
@CordeliaWagner
@CordeliaWagner 2 жыл бұрын
Religious peoplecome across as lunatics in my atheist opinion.
@yumiko0017
@yumiko0017 2 жыл бұрын
@@CordeliaWagner I’m religious and I can’t even stand stand religious people. It irks me when people tell others what to do with their private parts and reproductive system.
@victoriasegall3404
@victoriasegall3404 Жыл бұрын
Oh, my goodness! You, too? I have gotten the WORST harrassment and judgments from religious people. All, individually and collectively, have been awful to me. As far as they are concerned, I'm a dirty whore, and a lost soul not worthy of love. Shame on ALL of them!
@th-ck9vl
@th-ck9vl 3 жыл бұрын
I never wanted kids, but seeing how it's always the mother who ends up sacrificing her career and freedom for the child had me firm in my belief. My sister in law had two kids, and my brother just expected her to quit her job as a district manager and stay home with them. He didn't even have a job then, so there was no telling if they'd have enough money. It just wasn't even a question he's like "when are you gonna quit your job?" I don't want that to happen to me. It's not fair. Even when mother's work, their pay goes down while father's go up. I can't be okay with being the only one to sacrifice. Especially when men seem to not even appreciate it, or anything you do at home. And seeing as how big of a risk it is, leaving yourself financially vulnerable like that, it's just not worth it. Society expects the world of us and gives us little in return.
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 2 жыл бұрын
"I can't be okay with being the only one to sacrifice. Especially when men seem to not even appreciate it, or anything you do at home." +1 I spent some time when I was younger (I'm 56 now) thinking to myself, "Why is every other woman I know okay with this devil's bargain, and I'm not?" Now I thank the Fates that I was not able to force myself to go along. Why was I the one who couldn't stay in denial? Who knows? I'm just glad of it.
@mcd4370
@mcd4370 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@florencee3324
@florencee3324 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it makes me so annoyed when in real life and shows the mother is expected to not peruse her career and just be a stay at home mum when that’s not even what she wants 😩
@SilkySlick
@SilkySlick Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm loving everything you are saying here and I couldn't say it better myself.
@Andrea92_91
@Andrea92_91 Жыл бұрын
“Society expects the world of us and gives us little in return.” THIS. I wish more people realized this instead of immediately calling women selfish for thinking smart. Why are women expected to sacrifice their lives for something they never wanted? How is being child-free harming or inconveniencing anyone?
@sleepyheadsarah
@sleepyheadsarah 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago at a cafe, I saw an older lady sitting with her church group complaining that she wanted grandkids but her son and daughter-in-law said they weren't ready. She and her friends then proceeded to pray that the daughter-in-law's birth control would fail. I think about that moment a lot. What must that poor young woman's life have been with a mother-in-law like that?
@fabricadefritanga
@fabricadefritanga 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for her son and daughter-in-law.
@TigaFeva
@TigaFeva 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most messed up story of heard about religious ppl so far.
@naomiwilliams8850
@naomiwilliams8850 3 жыл бұрын
This is just beyond disrespectful. The funny thing is that most grandparents don't even provide a lot of support to their grandchildren. They like visits here and there but the main reason for them wanting grandchildren is to boast to their friends.
@skellymom
@skellymom 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, this church group could be helping at places with children who have no parental guidance. More than just donating money, but really getting to know the kids and having a positive influence in their lives.
@glassramekin1559
@glassramekin1559 2 жыл бұрын
@@skellymom Nooooooooooo...... THaT wOulD bE tOO MucH WORK! Much easier to be selfi- *cough* I mean "hUmbLe" & pray... 🙄
@cv8499
@cv8499 3 жыл бұрын
I am 45 and child-free, not by choice. And not because of fertility issues but because I've never had a long-lasting relationship (not for lack of trying), and I didn't want to have children alone. Not to mention that when doing things like freezing my eggs would have been optimal (around my mid-20's), I could not have afforded to. And now that I can, it's biologically a little too late. For me, when people press me about why I didn't have kids, it's hurtful because I DID want them. It just didn't happen for me. Neither did finding love. When I was in my 20s I didn't much mind these questions because I figured I had time to find a guy, get married, have kids. But now? When people ask me about kids, it just pours salt into the wound. And having friends with kids say things like, "I had no idea what love was until I had children," basically implying that I'll always be some kind of half person is insulting, even though they don't realize that's what they're doing. In most other ways, I'm very happy. I have a great career, wonderful friends, a close-knit family. I travel, I volunteer, I enjoy life. But this is one scab I wish the world would stop picking at.
@sandyshields2164
@sandyshields2164 3 жыл бұрын
Or the comment, “She wouldn’t understand since she doesn’t have children...”. Out of respect others should not be second guessing a woman’s choice, and out of empathy they should mind their words...
@sabeaniebaby
@sabeaniebaby 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in exactly the same boat. To boot I have no family other than an aged narcissist mother. I know I will die alone. It's so ridiculous that I was selfish for not having had children but at the same time am told I should have had them for ... duh ... selfish reasons.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath 3 жыл бұрын
mostly, they are saying these things to reassure themselves that having kids was the right choice, because they aren't sure it was. Try to realize that maybe not having kids was a blessing for you, you'll never know. You deserve a great lifelong relationship, though. I hope you find someone
@krislatoya7556
@krislatoya7556 3 жыл бұрын
That statement "I never knew what love was until I had children" is so strange to me so the partner really doesn't count then 😕
@zanduncan3548
@zanduncan3548 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😮... I mean you can adopt me😅 #SorryMom I just miss grandma!
@SkySong6161
@SkySong6161 3 жыл бұрын
I've worked in financial institutions, and the counter-argument for "what will you happen when you're old" basically boils down to, "keep the money I saved by not having children, and avoid being defrauded, abused, and stolen from by my adult children." It is so common it shows up in the yearly training most financial advisors are required to take once a year to spot when a client is being financially abused. 75% of financial elder abuse is perpetuated by their children. Even if you're not being financially abused by your children, often the best you can hope for is that they'll leave you alone. Most working adults neither have the time nor money to care for aging elders.
@EadsB7002
@EadsB7002 Жыл бұрын
this is real life! i worked in nursing homes for many years and this happens all of the time.
@derekkarofsky9694
@derekkarofsky9694 3 жыл бұрын
My aunt once asked my sister when she will start giving grandkids. She just finished college that month. I remember my sister telling her that she didn't study hard for a career just to give birth right off the bat.
@maria.x
@maria.x 3 жыл бұрын
I am almost 30 and have NEVER had baby fever. I’ve never felt the need or desire to have a child of my own, and my immediate family has never pressured me for it luckily. My main issues stem from my professional environment. I hate it when mothers tell me that my exhaustion or my lack of energy isn’t comparable or valid because I don’t have a child waiting at home, or that I’m not entitled to a family friendly working schedule because I don’t have kids. It’s almost as if I’m less of a woman because I don’t have a kid. I’m not allowed to complain because I don’t have a kid. It’s very frustrating, my lifestyle choice is my decision, I don’t go around telling working mothers “well you chose to have a kid so deal with it”. I try my best to be understanding of working mothers but I feel like it’s not reciprocated, it’s resented.
@goddessreverierosehawthorn3724
@goddessreverierosehawthorn3724 3 жыл бұрын
Jealousy is fairly common in the work place for mothers vs non mothers. Mostly due to perceptions of how much easier and better non-mothers must have it. It’s why child free can have more issues getting time off for emergencies or holidays.
@goddessreverierosehawthorn3724
@goddessreverierosehawthorn3724 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve also gotten this from my own mother after working 60 hours on a farm in the summer or exhausted after college finals week. “Wait till you have kids, then you’ll know what tired is!” Sure...sigh.
@maria.x
@maria.x 3 жыл бұрын
@@goddessreverierosehawthorn3724 I agree and that is such a selfish way to look at it. What if I can’t have kids, do I have it easier then? I don’t have it easier, I just have different problems as we all do. A life without children doesn’t mean it’s an easier one, just a different one.
@390CBH
@390CBH 3 жыл бұрын
I work as a special education teacher, have a part-time evening job filming local government meetings, and am currently working on a master's degree. If I even say I am slightly tried in ear shoot of any of my cousins with toddlers I get the "wait until you have kids." Luckily I have a mother who worked full time while raising children just like her mother before her, so she has no time for people complaining about how hard it is to raise children. Literally, a conversation at every family get together: COUSINS: "Just wait until you have to get up at 4am because your baby is crying." ME: " I've been getting up at 4am for work for the past 10 years." MY MOM: "That is what babies do. Just get up and deal with it like every other parent has been for centuries."
@rosiewise
@rosiewise 3 жыл бұрын
This. Getting "voluntold" to do something because "you have nothing better to do" on account you've got no kids to look after... no one ever warned me being child free is a massive disadvantage when it comes to asking for equal flexibility when it comes to working hours, holidays or time off at short notice. Having to justify that you just fancy a day off because you need a mental break when competing with someone who wants time off because of lack of a babysitter or that scheduled appointment really irks me at times... you eventually learn to restrict asking for time off during term times if you want an easier/more guilt free life.
@jogold867
@jogold867 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think having kids is anyone's business besides the people rasing the kids. I don't understand why it's such a big deal. There's already plenty of kids in need of a home, why bring more into the world if you don't even want to? It just sounds irresponsible.
@how-to-live-right
@how-to-live-right Жыл бұрын
there are no plenty of kids in need of home. there is 1 baby to 30 parents in a line for adoption. Until you want a kid who will need lifelong care
@paigecallaway5296
@paigecallaway5296 3 жыл бұрын
Someone said to me this week "ugh, you're just lucky you don't have kids yet." One, the implication of 'yet' is a wild and incorrect assumption. Secondly, I am a woman who did have a child and he passed away when he was an infant with a terminal illness. My choice not to have children is complex in that, I truly don't want any more because I love my career, the life with my soon to be husband, and I am incredibly fulfilled without children. But, it's fair that a great portion of that comes from my son's passing. It is just maddening the way women speak to other women when it comes to choices around having children.
@DimaRakesah
@DimaRakesah 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I so hear that "yet" all the time or the dreaded "when are you having kids?" as if there is no choice in the matter. It's not a matter of IF I will have kids, to them, it's WHEN!
@hollyhayes9640
@hollyhayes9640 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they assume that we don't have a choice in what happens to our own body and in our own lives.
@janetyoungwriter
@janetyoungwriter 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry for your loss.
@SVAsianPhilippinesGo6858
@SVAsianPhilippinesGo6858 2 жыл бұрын
Aww wow, my condolences to your family. That must've been hard.
@salpine
@salpine Жыл бұрын
Condolences to you. It is complex and it's so frustrating when people on the outside try to simplify it, or worse, start making accusations. My mother told me I won't have kids because I want to do drugs. I smoke a joint after work sometimes, I don't drink or smoke cigarettes. Never done hard drugs in my life. It's been 4 years and I'm still mad about that.
@jtidema
@jtidema 3 жыл бұрын
As a child free couple in our late 50's, my husband and I heard a lot of this over the years. We're happy and satisfied in our life. Please, make decisions that work for you!
@keilaabrajan8845
@keilaabrajan8845 3 жыл бұрын
Married and 26 but from a cultural background where girls have kids in their teens or early 20s... the nastiest comment I ever got was "your husband is gonna find a girl who actually gives him children". People have to mind their own business.
@arinaira1417
@arinaira1417 3 жыл бұрын
What a nasty comment, My God 😭
@frankthemousepie
@frankthemousepie 3 жыл бұрын
That's just disrespectful to you AND your husband. The only reason he married you was for reproduction or something??? That's the only value in a woman???? What is wrong with people - I find those types are usually just jealous they had to deal with kids and you don't, but don't want to admit it.
@dyva9
@dyva9 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard "No man will ever want to marry you, with no hope of having kids". Nasty! I know we are social animals and learn from interacting with eachother, but isn't it about time that we've learned how to teach in a kind way?
@akreeger7742
@akreeger7742 3 жыл бұрын
That's an awful comment. Life is so much more than having children. People can be so mean
@arinaira1417
@arinaira1417 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyva9 I have heard this one! 😭
@RetkiKosmos
@RetkiKosmos 3 жыл бұрын
instead of asking people "WHEN are having children?" people need to start asking "WHY do you WANT children?" in my opinion having children should not be the base standard
@Pikminiman
@Pikminiman 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If you asked back, "So when are you getting a teal yacht?" they would be confused. And yet, it's the same situation. The question contains an assumption that obviously you will one day get a teal yacht. But they probably don't want a teal yacht, so it would be very silly of you to ask the question.
@melissashiels7838
@melissashiels7838 3 жыл бұрын
Love this! I really wish having kids was not the unchallenged, no-thought, default setting that people treat it as.
@devlinfae
@devlinfae 3 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@PegasStar
@PegasStar 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! This question WHEN implies that everybody has to have them because we're "meant to have them", and absolutely forgets about the whole part of parenting and that not everybody is good at it. There are so many crappy parents exactly for this reason.
@cindyi8471
@cindyi8471 3 жыл бұрын
Yes when people ask me why I don't want kids, I really want to ask them why they chose to have kids. But I feel that wold bring me down to the same level of rudeness.
@toflyaway1
@toflyaway1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm turning 40 in a few months. I have been with my husband for 15 years. We are CHILDFREE and living our best life that suits us. My husband is never asked, harassed, critisized or attempted to be recruited to have a baby like I have in these last 15 years. I love the disappointment in people when I state this fact...as I plan our next vacation and celebrate our uninterrupted 7 hours of sleep every night. I don’t care nor judge those that want to have 10 kids so don't come at me. 🙌🥳
@mmt123mimi3
@mmt123mimi3 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!!!
@OTK_KING
@OTK_KING 2 жыл бұрын
Living my dream life. I am 18 years old and even if I just joke about not having kids. My mom gets upset like there is something wrong with me. It's annoying.
@SVAsianPhilippinesGo6858
@SVAsianPhilippinesGo6858 2 жыл бұрын
@@OTK_KING She wants to selfishly have grandkids, that why. Forgive. 🙂
@megane9248
@megane9248 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing is to remind the moms in my life that I don’t have to waste money on diapers or special doctor appointments! Hahahaha!
@megane9248
@megane9248 2 жыл бұрын
@@OTK_KING Tell your mom to volunteer to go wipe asses in the memory unit of a nursing home if she wants to take care of babies so badly - it’s basically the same type of work!
@meganhamlyn1694
@meganhamlyn1694 3 жыл бұрын
As a mom of 1 by choice...I have been accused of depriving him of a sibling. People are going to put their beliefs/opinions on you no matter what! Good for you for putting this plainly and concisely
@mynotificationsareoff.400
@mynotificationsareoff.400 2 жыл бұрын
Parents with three kids seem miserable
@isabelguzmanmiranda5025
@isabelguzmanmiranda5025 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynotificationsareoff.400 Not when they have money for nannies.
@barbaralachance5836
@barbaralachance5836 Жыл бұрын
Omg, I "only" have one child and living in the middle east I get it all the time. Like I'm a horrible human... So many people can't stand their siblings, I don't want another child, being a parent is hard and I nearly died delivering this one. I have a lot of respect for women who decide to not have children... Good for you ladies ❤
@arnettrabaker4872
@arnettrabaker4872 3 жыл бұрын
As a 41 year-old, single and child-free (both by choice), woman, I’ve often been questioned about my life choices, even condescended to with ‘but you deserve to be happy’ as if the only way a woman can be happy is by having a romantic relationship with a man and being a mother. It’s so refreshing to hear the viewpoints and experiences of other child free (by choice) women; thanks TFD for making me feel not quite so alone today.
@perladiaz-olivas2571
@perladiaz-olivas2571 3 жыл бұрын
My husband and I waited to have children’s for several years after we married and I got so tired of people asking me about having children that if I got a rude question about it I gave a rude answer back. Like...why, are you gonna watch em for me while I’m working. Or I would just flatly say I wasn’t having any even if in the back of my mind I still wasn’t sure if I wanted to or not. I can attest these nosy people get way out of line. It’s a huge decision and commitment to have children it’s a decision that should not be made cavalierly. If motherhood is not for you I completely understand.
@matranslatoryka1859
@matranslatoryka1859 3 жыл бұрын
Preach. Relationships can be so draining and a source of misery, not happiness
@jet4415
@jet4415 3 жыл бұрын
@@matranslatoryka1859 Amen.
@mikuforlife1929
@mikuforlife1929 3 жыл бұрын
@@matranslatoryka1859 The happiest days of my life were when I was single. Too bad I realized that much later in life tho
@CadeD679
@CadeD679 3 жыл бұрын
I am 42 and child-free. Yes, I deserve to be happy. Which is why I don't have kids. I am not cut out to be a parent, and, I would NOT be happy having kids. Without kids, I get to focus on music (I sing in a chorale,) and on my writing. I get to spend my time with other adults, and, we can go wherever we want whenever we want. I can stay out as late as I want, and sleep in, if needs be. THAT makes me happy!
@ohShnapss
@ohShnapss 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has never wanted children, I've never really had an exact reason as to why. I did some hard thinking a few years ago when my friends started having babies. The reason I came up with was...I just don't. And that should be enough.
@jasminecollins897
@jasminecollins897 3 жыл бұрын
We should normalize the idea that you opt in to parenthood, not opt out. Making entirely new human beings shouldn't be the societal default. It should be a responsibility that people fully consider and choose if it's right for them. You shouldn't have to justify not wanting kids. People should have to consider why they want kids and justify that to themselves before moving forward with it.
@milikoshki
@milikoshki 3 жыл бұрын
I have also been doing some hard thinking as the baby boom is happening around me- the conclusion I have come to is that I'm fulfilled with my role/identity as it is- I'm a daughter, sister, niece, cousin, auntie... I find my family deeply satisfying as is and I'm happily available to them in ways that wouldn't be possible if I were raising my own offspring. I haven't made any hard and fast rules that I won't EVER have children, but as time goes on without any burning desire to reproduce, it seems the most likely outcome. Thankfully no one hassles me about it directly- my family doesn't pressure me and my partner's family directs most of their mournful sighs at him rather than me.
@coneil72
@coneil72 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto -- but specifically around pregnancy. The concept of wanting to carry your own child to term has always been baffling to me.
@thatjillgirl
@thatjillgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. When I was a kid, I always just assumed that someday I would have kids because that's just what everybody does, and I would talk with my friends about how many kids I thought I would like to have, etc. But then when I hit adulthood and started to absorb the fact that you can just choose to not have kids, I realized that there was no innate desire within me for children. I'm not actively opposed, and if my husband wanted them, I would be okay with doing it. But he doesn't. And I don't. There is just no such desire there. Most of my friends had a desire for children (and have since had them). But I'm more than content with my niece and nephews.
@naomiwilliams8850
@naomiwilliams8850 3 жыл бұрын
I don't is a complete sentence and a valid reason for not want kids.
@curiousfirely
@curiousfirely 3 жыл бұрын
In my childfree journey, what I found the most surprising was from a long term partner. Before we got together, I told him explicotly I did not want to bear my own children. Much later, he admitted to me he didn't think I was serious, or would change my mind. He got upset when I assured him I knew what I wanted. We broke up soon after. Good riddance.
@scorpionqueen66
@scorpionqueen66 Жыл бұрын
You seriously dodged a HUGE bullet by dumping that egotistical and entitled asshole!!! Women don't owe men shit!!!
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын
That’s one thing couples should agree on one hundred percent - whether to have children or not. I never wanted children, but I never really wanted marriage, either, so that wasn’t a problem for me.
@uncannedspaghetti
@uncannedspaghetti 3 жыл бұрын
Can we also talk about how people who are good with kids shouldn’t necessarily be parents? I’ve had multiple comments about what a good mom I’d be, but there are so many more factors. I can be great with my nieces and give them back, which is a beautiful thing.
@newwavenancy
@newwavenancy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I saw a teacher on Quora say parents say tell her she actually relates better to children because she doesn’t have children herself.
@elle8786
@elle8786 2 жыл бұрын
I always explain that I have infinite patience with the children of friends and family explicitly because I'm not responsible for them.
@crazysmilingdonut804
@crazysmilingdonut804 2 жыл бұрын
people who are the best with kids should be teachers or child nurses etc
@safala
@safala 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. One of the greatest joys of having baby cousins, nieces and children of friends is that you get to return them to their parents.
@Neitherherenorthere29
@Neitherherenorthere29 2 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful thing.
@yezzey3
@yezzey3 3 жыл бұрын
The "you're selfish" comments confuse me because then the same person will go on to say that they want kids so that someone will take care of them when they're old. *That* seems far more selfish to me, to raise kids mentally seeing them as future caretakers.
@lanbao2010
@lanbao2010 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve come to the conclusion that every reason I can think of to have a child is selfish so I might as well accept that and make my decision from that position of knowledge. Currently still defaulting to child free with slight curiosity about “the experience of having a child”. Goodness knows my mother told me that I was such a pest that she put me into childcare as soon as she could; I wonder why I might not want children. Hm.
@dyva9
@dyva9 3 жыл бұрын
To me... "That who will take care of you?" Comment is borderline narsistic
@akreeger7742
@akreeger7742 3 жыл бұрын
I pointed out to my mom that to have children because you think they'll take care of you, help do chores when they live with you, and give you grand children are not good reasons to have children...
@lolixxxx988
@lolixxxx988 3 жыл бұрын
Some even think their children might be their living organ donors!!!!
@milphoenix91
@milphoenix91 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm afraid I'll mess up my body. And my mental health. And no, I won't be shamed for looking out for myself!
@MsSassyMT
@MsSassyMT 3 жыл бұрын
And you should be the one looking out for you! There's nothing wrong with that.
@pipertarver1852
@pipertarver1852 3 жыл бұрын
👍✌☺ Nothing wrong with that.
@sarahmcqueen3246
@sarahmcqueen3246 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you for being honest. I feel the same way. Your mental health and well-being are vitally important to a happy life.
@calibby85
@calibby85 3 жыл бұрын
100% ! The mental health alone. If you have anxiety, the hormonal changes of pregnancy can be devastating, not to mention post partum depression. And even the simple fact that sleep deprivation, the lack of quiet and peace can have on someone already dealing with these things...
@jigyasa5846
@jigyasa5846 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, I don't want to mess up my physical and mental health especially when I have a bad history regarding the same. I don't want to lose my identity , following societal norms of being born with a uterus, when I know none of them are going to stand by me.
@zucchinigreen
@zucchinigreen 3 жыл бұрын
Just this weekend I got the "Who's going to take care of you when you're old" line. I'm 38 with known medical issues, but somehow a pregnancy will make my life better? No thanks. Meanwhile both my brothers are also child-free and they get zero harassment because "They'll settle down eventually". There's no winning when you live your life for other people. Team create the life YOU want to live at every stage.
@EadsB7002
@EadsB7002 Жыл бұрын
THIS!
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 7 ай бұрын
YES!
@tamaramoxham648
@tamaramoxham648 2 жыл бұрын
I often get “who will take care of you when you get old?” I always answer “how do you know your kids will outlive you?”
@blackgirlsrock264
@blackgirlsrock264 2 жыл бұрын
Truth!💯 Or that children will live in the same city or country when people get old? They’re no guarantees!
@RC093
@RC093 8 ай бұрын
My great aunt and uncle had 3 children and they all died before they did. No one ever thinks that it could be possible.
@JP-cn9dh
@JP-cn9dh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 21 and when I respond motherhood is not my path, I'm told I'm too young to possibly know this. But with that logic, aren't I also too young to know motherhood IS what I want? I guess I'm too immature to not want children, but mature enough to decide to make them...
@TheMgarofalo
@TheMgarofalo 3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@Sajirah
@Sajirah 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly it won’t stop in your 30s either. If anything the comments become more aggressive because ‘you’re running out of time!’. 🙃
@samevans1289
@samevans1289 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated, but it made me think of that thing where you're considered mature enough to go to war and die and kill, but not mature enough to have a beer.
@vickiecordon7887
@vickiecordon7887 3 жыл бұрын
Do not listen to this immature people. I knew since I was a child I never wanted to be a mother. If I would have wanted I would have adopted too many abandoned children. I am happy and child free in my late forties.
@Rykuii
@Rykuii 3 жыл бұрын
@@samevans1289 does alcohol not make you sick ? It gives me bad diarrhea :( I believe you can drink and smoke while in service since it is typically mandatory though !
@kassandralillian6064
@kassandralillian6064 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why not having a child makes you selfish. What makes someone selfish is making them have a child they don't want resulting in neglect and resentment, thus leading into emotional distress for the child as they get older. To people who say I'll change my mind when I'm older, then thrust their babies into my arms, then get discouraged when I flinch makes them realize their baby isn't the cutest thing in the world. That realization is hard for some. Lastly those who hit you over the head with, 'you need to be a mom' will like you said make child free people push away on that friendship. Then mom's wonder why don't I have any friends.
@LeFFFFFUUUU
@LeFFFFFUUUU 3 жыл бұрын
I have a kid now but hated so much when people shoved me their babies on my arms. It's so disrespectful. I was like "wtf do I do with this now!?". I don't shove my baby in other people's arms, it is not a toy.
@Chloesim94
@Chloesim94 3 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people say 'you'll feel differently when it's your own child'. I just had a kid and even as a mum now, there are times when I struggle to feel any bond with my child despite willingly choosing to birth her. It doesn't diminish my love for her and I would do anything for her but I totally understand and support anyone who wants to be child free because they feel that that they are not meant to be parents. People ask if having my own child makes me want to encourage other people to have their own and I have only one thing to say 'HECK NO'.
@BeGlamourlicious
@BeGlamourlicious 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chloesim94 people forget that being a mom is extremely difficult and hard for everyone.
@coneil72
@coneil72 3 жыл бұрын
But also, the desire to have children is inherently selfish. Who is having kids altruistically? You do it because YOU want to reproduce, you want to establish your legacy, you want your name to live on, you want the experience of being a parent.
@kassandralillian6064
@kassandralillian6064 3 жыл бұрын
@@coneil72 never thought of it that way. 👍
@lizsmith8454
@lizsmith8454 2 жыл бұрын
All my life I “knew” I wanted kids. I have two now, and I have a word for people who choose not to have kids: genius. I’m now convinced that people with kids who try to tell you you’re making a mistake just want someone to share their misery with. (My kids are two and four and there is a light at the end of the tunnel, but whew! Has it been a rough four years!)
@AnoukMalia88
@AnoukMalia88 3 жыл бұрын
All the time mothers tell me: “you will never experience the unconditional love without it.” Sorry but in the whole giving birth process, there are looots of hormones involved. My opinion is, that unconditional means: you choose someone else freely. No one depends on you...like, no strings are attached. And I just don’t see that and therefore me in this kind of relationship.
@DrMike18
@DrMike18 3 жыл бұрын
I told my parents that I'm not "having" children because I plan on fostering and adopting (I'm gay so obviously that's the main option), and they told me that it's not the same and you can never truly "love" a child who isn't biologically yours. If they were willing to say that to me then God forbid I was a woman who told them I was fostering or adopting or going childfree. I can't even begin to imagine how awful my family would treat me.
@bri3449
@bri3449 3 жыл бұрын
:/ that’s the grossest mindset to have. families are made by two strangers coming together and loving each other. strangers who aren’t biologically related. so i really can’t understand the logic in that, other than extreme narcissism.
@basicbaroque
@basicbaroque 3 жыл бұрын
There are studies that show that caring for a child, will cause you to have the same dopamine and chemical reactions in the brain, the same as a woman who has given birth. You definitely will 100% love and be attached to your adopted child as if they were your biological baby. ❤️ Just be aware, you can still develop Postpartum depression as an adoptive parent/father. Just spreading awareness about PPD, since I'm a parent myself, and it's often overlooked, especially in men and adoptive families.
@DrMike18
@DrMike18 3 жыл бұрын
@@bri3449 I say it's a mix of homophobia and extreme conservative Catholicism.
@DrMike18
@DrMike18 3 жыл бұрын
@@basicbaroque Really? I never heard that adopted parents could develop postpartum. I knew it could happen to men who biologically have kids, but didn't know it could happen with adoption/fostering too. Good to know. Thanks.
@samevans1289
@samevans1289 3 жыл бұрын
@@basicbaroque That's so interesting, thanks for sharing! I guess if you consider all the non-hormonal reasons PPD appears, it makes total sense that they would also present in adoptive parents.
@allisonsmith5372
@allisonsmith5372 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 22. I’ve known since middle school that I didn’t want to be a mother. Still have people telling me “you’ll change your mind!” and in a more hurtful way: “you’ll never be fulfilled” and “your life will be empty.”
@cronezone6214
@cronezone6214 3 жыл бұрын
Tell them to pound sand. I'm 62 and never regretted avoiding motherhood. The kind of assnuggets who say that stuff are miserable in their parenthood and want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
@deekayvixen
@deekayvixen 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 38 and have heard those things over the years (still do... "you still have time", lol). Who cares what these people think? They obviously believe that there is only one way to live.
@wcwright44
@wcwright44 3 жыл бұрын
What I’d tell people is that I can always change my mind to have them but I can’t give them back once they’re here. I’m 71. People are always full of free advice. Keep your own council and you’ll do just fine.
@pipertarver1852
@pipertarver1852 3 жыл бұрын
You are fine. I knew when I was 16 yrs old that I didn't want kids as well. I wanted to have a career & to be free to do whatever I want on my own terms. Not what other people think I should be doing. Bottom line I'm happy. This is the life I have chosen for myself. ☺❤
@HanQ28
@HanQ28 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 28 and still don’t want kids. I also don’t want to get married. I’ve kinda known it since the start of my childhood memory. I don’t know if it’s a natural/genetic thing, but I’ve definitely been getting this “I’m never gonna be a mother” intuition since a very young age. To be honest I’ve never even dreamed of wearing a white wedding dress, although I used to love watching all those Disney princess films. This is in sharp contrast to one of my cousins who LOVES children ever since she was a child herself. She would do the “mother daughter” pretend play with me all the time when we were kids. It’s very interesting just how much people can differ from each other since childhood.
@9159bsbs
@9159bsbs 3 жыл бұрын
Both of my kids are childless and I also get asked about becoming a grandmother. My responses vary (depending on the person) but I often tell them I think it’s one of the most responsible decisions they’ve made as young adults by not falling into the pressure from pushy people. Our world could be so much better if people would mind their own effin business where it doesn’t concern them directly especially where reproduction is concerned.
@soniarocha5583
@soniarocha5583 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 43 and decided to be child free when I was 38. People said that I was gonna change my mind. On the contrary, I've been happier than when I was worrying by something others expected but I didn't want at all. I haven't regret it not for one second and I really don't care of what people say or think.
@rejoyce2121
@rejoyce2121 3 жыл бұрын
You go girl! Thank you for making me feel not alone
@carolinaadela4531
@carolinaadela4531 2 жыл бұрын
I m 41, childfree and extremey happy
@EadsB7002
@EadsB7002 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the "you'll change your mind" bs...lol... Nope.. when you know deeply and have exercised serious critical thinking before making a decision, you don't just up and "change your mind"... I heard it all the time in my 20's and 30's.... Now in my 40's i am more content than ever and have zero regrets!
@adriana7144
@adriana7144 3 жыл бұрын
I am child free by choice. Last year I had a hysterectomy for medical reasons. Even though the problems with my womb were significantly harming my standard of living it was something I had to fight long and hard for because ‘but you might want kids’. But that has taken some of the pressure of because I cannot have them now. I just get so tired of being told ‘you don’t get it because you don’t have kids’. I think, often, people are actually a little envious. But also I find that lots of women especially seem to think that bearing a child gives them special rights and that anyone who chooses not to is less than.
@sammielovessophie9519
@sammielovessophie9519 3 жыл бұрын
Lotta parents out there who wish they had their "freedom" and resent those who do.
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no- apparently male doctors know better than you and must make that decision for you. It's only YOUR body.....god I hate that!
@scemat
@scemat 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jazmine9570 What you said about people becoming parents to fit in or live through their kids is so true. I am child-free, but I'm not fully decided on whether I want them or not, but every time I ask myself in honesty, I find that all my arguments in favor of having children stem from selfishness.
@butterflymuse2707
@butterflymuse2707 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, fellow uterus free CBC friend! *high five*
@dyva9
@dyva9 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was young and thinking about being child-free... I was told a hysterectomy was out of the question. No doctor would do that for me while I am in child-bearing age. I was told I might change my mind. Here we are, almost 20 years later... Still no kids! And... No regrets.
@KimMaverick
@KimMaverick 3 жыл бұрын
I tell people that I’ll have kids in my next lifetime, and turn the conversation into a philosophical debate instead. 🙃
@didineanatol5949
@didineanatol5949 3 жыл бұрын
I say something similar "maybe next lifetime" This lifetime I want to focus and work on me.
@aellalee4767
@aellalee4767 3 жыл бұрын
Using this!
@veroniquecastel9582
@veroniquecastel9582 3 жыл бұрын
“I am allergic” ... 😂
@ariesleocap
@ariesleocap 2 жыл бұрын
*genius*
@tylersoto7465
@tylersoto7465 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@birbenthusiast515
@birbenthusiast515 2 жыл бұрын
Also no one likes to talk about the risk that comes with pregnancy/birth. My sister in law nearly died bringing their first and now only child into this world. She started hemorrhaging blood and nearly lost her life if not for the skill of her doctors.
@thebook3481
@thebook3481 3 жыл бұрын
The strangest argument I ever encountered in my childfree life is, “you don’t want kids? But you use to be a kid.” The first time this was said to me, I started calling for an ambulance because I thought the woman I was talking to was stroking out since she was just stringing together random words that ultimately made no sense. Like how do you even respond to that?
@5Demona5
@5Demona5 2 жыл бұрын
I usually reply: Well, one day you're going to be a corpse. Would you like a corpse in your house? It's way less annoying than kids. I also say: Yeah, and I was an annoying kid and I sure as hell pissed of my parents a bunch of times.
@Alf258
@Alf258 2 жыл бұрын
i respond with ... "when i was a kid i didn't like other kids i preferred adults "
@jquas1965
@jquas1965 Жыл бұрын
@@5Demona5 fucken awsome! A corpse is much less annoying than kids.
@victoriasegall3404
@victoriasegall3404 Жыл бұрын
Some people are so stupid with their remarks! I would have been so rude!
@beabea5985
@beabea5985 Жыл бұрын
It's really weird. I usually reply with "how can anyone not like olives? You were the size of an olive once!", and they ask what does that have to do with anything, and it takes them a second, but they usually figure out that it makes just as much sense as assuming someone wants children because they used to be kids themselves. What a dumbass argument.
@jeshmaharish9383
@jeshmaharish9383 3 жыл бұрын
Selfish are the people who have kids so that there's someone to look after them when they are old or expecting kids to bring them happiness in various ways. To raise decent human being is a huge responsibility. But sadly people don't look at it from this perspective. The world would have been a better place if lots of people without the ability to use their brain didn't have kids!
@kilroysmom
@kilroysmom 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had this derogatory look when she told me that as I had no kids yet, I would run out of time - I'm 39 - and would not have anyone taking care of me when I got old. Luckily my mom is not bothering me with such stupid questions.
@flavialm1
@flavialm1 3 жыл бұрын
By my experience people that push me in to having children or get angry and passive aggressive, are often people that don't care for their own and keep complaining about how much work they are and how they impact in their lives, for me it looks like they had them because they felt they had to and now are angry that people present a new possibility that is too late for them to take, so they push it as not being an option.
@samevans1289
@samevans1289 3 жыл бұрын
That has been my experience as well. With these people, it seems to me like they _need_ people without children to be miserable, to feel unfulfilled and empty, in order to validate that their choice was the right one, otherwise _they_ feel miserable, knowing that the path that they had not taken, either because of the lack of courage to go against societal norms, or because truly it was not an option to them then, can lead to not only not being miserable and the pariah of society, but to happy, fulfilling lives. And whilst I sympathize, I'm not going to allow myself to be their punching bag just because they can't deal with that knowledge.
@Piscoandmartinis
@Piscoandmartinis 3 жыл бұрын
Totally! Just talk to them about your travels and adventures and how happy you feel, that'll make them crazy lol
@helenavasic9989
@helenavasic9989 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! They see kids as a chore and are like you should do it too! Like why did you have kids if you were miserable then? It’s incredibly selfish as I feel bad for their own children as they will be seen as a burden it’s gross they can’t realize that and want people to have kids too without thinking for other people to be miserable as them and as a result have more kids in the world who’s needs aren’t met (I mean emotional needs ) also like to add another case is when parents expect grandkids like no
@Tatiana-cd1vu
@Tatiana-cd1vu 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, I have been thinking the same!
@Rykuii
@Rykuii 3 жыл бұрын
You must surround yourself with odd people !
@thewisdomdivatv
@thewisdomdivatv 2 жыл бұрын
I have two biological children and I promise I love them more than anyone on the earth. However. I feel like most moms don’t tell the truth about how hard it is, how stressful raising healthy kids is - much less a child with special needs (like one of mine). I don’t blame people who choose not to have them and don’t think they’re missing out on any happiness or love that can’t be acquired through other types of relationships.
@user-lk3pj9gi6o
@user-lk3pj9gi6o 5 ай бұрын
You don't love your kids you forced them to exist and they have to live in a messed world like this because of your carelessness
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 3 жыл бұрын
Child free 41 year old here! Yep, grew up with the societal expectations of marrying, kids etc but.....life got in the way! I myself moved overseas for 10 years, travelled and had fun. Then came home & got a mortgage within a couple of years. Never met anyone to marry or wanted to be with. Very happy here- but yes, family has gone from "so when are you meeting someone?" to "is he the one?" (20s) to " perhaps she's gay" (30's) and "what will you do in old age". Sigh.....
@naomiwilliams8850
@naomiwilliams8850 3 жыл бұрын
"What will you do in old age" People act likes it's guaranteed that their kids will look after them in old age. Many people who have kids end up in care homes nowadays.
@TiffTheTyrant
@TiffTheTyrant 3 жыл бұрын
As a 36 year old child-free woman, who wrestles with this almost on a daily basis because of the pressure I feel to have children when I’m extremely unsure-this gave me a sigh of relief. Thank you. Thank you a thousand times for making me feel that there are others like me.
@fortheloveofLDS
@fortheloveofLDS 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best outlook on this is: "If it's not a hell yes, it's a NO." No sense in taking on an 18-year commitment for a human life if you're even the least bit unsure. There is no way out of parenthood, whereas there are many other ways to be a supportive part of children's lives if that's what you're after.
@Sunshine4
@Sunshine4 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I’m this person too!!! I refuse to willing go into mother-hood alone so as I don’t have a life partner I’m childless. It bothers me sometimes, but I just can’t be selfish by bringing a child up with just me.
@Tatiana-cd1vu
@Tatiana-cd1vu 3 жыл бұрын
I am 36 years old and I feel the same way! I have never felt a strong desire to have kids, I even was married once but the marriage fell apart (other issues, not related to having/not having kids) and now that I am single, on one hand I feel relieved that I have nobody to have kids with if that makes sense, lol. I wonder if the tiny bit in me that would want kids is just coming from the society pressure, rather than me actually wanting kids... I found this video very encouraging too
@TiffTheTyrant
@TiffTheTyrant 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tatiana-cd1vu are we living in parallel universes? Lol 😂 it’s like we had the exact same life experiences!
@Tatiana-cd1vu
@Tatiana-cd1vu 3 жыл бұрын
@@TiffTheTyrant I am glad to know that I am not the only one! it makes me feel less weird :D
@theycallmethebreeze144
@theycallmethebreeze144 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a mother of 3 and I completely understand why people choose not to have kids. I don’t regret my decision and love my children, but a lot has to be put on hold when you have children, and I think even the most loving parents drift into wondering what it would’ve been like on the other side. And yeah, people need to mind their business!
@MsChocogurl
@MsChocogurl 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say something similar. I'm a mother of three and I love them. But there are days when I wonder what my life would be like without them. I certainly could have picked up and gone wherever I wanted, whenever I wanted, or made different career choices due to my schedule being opened up. While the pull to have children was strong for me, I also can appreciate that I could have had a totally different life without them.
@ef4zsv
@ef4zsv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty. I have never wanted kids and have none. I know people who have kids, and they do love them dearly, but those same people also say that if they had to do it again, they would choose not to have any. I've always appreciated their honesty.
@theycallmethebreeze144
@theycallmethebreeze144 3 жыл бұрын
I should be clear that I would not do things differently. I love my life with my kids. I had kids very young and through unconscious choices, and having them has made me into a better and stronger person. For me I would not change my choice to have children, but I respect and understand why others choose not to and I do not think that is selfish I think it is being realistic about what you want for your life. I am content with a simple life with my kids. Some people want something different than that, and that is totally OK and they should not be treated as selfish for knowing themselves. In fact, my kids learn a lot from my “no kid friends “, because they see all the possibilities of what life can be and I am grateful for that. I would never push my children to live any life but the life they want for themselves.
@alanakarmiol5768
@alanakarmiol5768 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this from so many parents in my life. They are glad they are parents and wouldn’t have it other way but they feel happy for us that we don’t if we don’t want them. They’re a huge commitment that many people do regret.
@rachelmdiamond
@rachelmdiamond 3 жыл бұрын
Love love love this video. I "came out" as childfree on TikTok a few weeks ago, and while I got a good amount of support, I got an equal amount of people telling me I'm heartless, I'll never know real love, even that I don't deserve to live. People get SO upset, even when your choice doesn't affect them
@jquas1965
@jquas1965 Жыл бұрын
They’re miserable because they had kids and wish they didn’t. They’re jealous of people like you and me who don’t have kids. They just want everyone to be as miserable as they are.
@victoriasegall3404
@victoriasegall3404 Жыл бұрын
Shame on those bastards! Judging people so horribly! I would tell them:" May whatever bad karma you wish on me return to you 10-fold!"
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын
Those people are idiots.
@shibolinemress8913
@shibolinemress8913 3 жыл бұрын
I had a baby once, and he had the sweetest "meow" in the whole world! 😁🐱
@lytaylor1204
@lytaylor1204 3 жыл бұрын
I am very grateful that the childfree choice is being more accepted now compared to even 5 years ago.
@sejulie487
@sejulie487 3 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why people (including perfect strangers) feel the need to open their mouths and judge someone for making a different life choice than their own, *especially* women. Mind your own business!!
@EleonoraFestari
@EleonoraFestari 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Italy where the society is also very attached to the idea of the traditional family :D And here I am, at 35 years, childfree and living with my boyfriend without being married, and for these choices I get criticised a lot, especially from my mother: - "I want to be a grandmother and have a baby close to me" (even though she's already a grandmother of three because my brother has 3 kids); - "You're missing a lot" (actually I don't feel like it) - "Without children you are not really a family" (honestly this is the most hurtful one and also unconsidered: I often ask her to think about those couples who cannot have kids because of infertility problems) - "What are you going to do when you are old?" (like if the only point of having a kid is to have someone by your side when you cannot take care of yourself anymore) I'm so tired of this pressure! I've never dreamed of being a mother even when I was a kid and I don't really feel an instinct for it. I hate the idea that you're considered as a selfish person and a disappointment by the society.
@TheperfectfrenchwithDylane
@TheperfectfrenchwithDylane 3 жыл бұрын
I am childfree by choice and even tho I am only 33 years old, I had to battle others since I first said that I will never have children when I was 15. I didn't even know that other women were making that choice as well around the world (I am from a very small community), the internet was not big at that time. My friends couldn't wait to become mothers and as much as I could see that they wanted this life so badly, I knew very clearly that this wasn't for me. I have been told 1000 times that I will change my mind of course. I even got called "selfish", because I guess having children when you don't want any is the right thing to do? The only person who has always been supportive of me is my very sweet grandma. She is now 83 years old. She never said it but I think that if she had the chance to do it all over again, she wouldn't have children either.
@rutlandm1
@rutlandm1 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Chelsea's husband ever gets the same questions. Probably not, given how society places the focus of children on women (to everyone's detriment).
@merrivideo
@merrivideo 3 жыл бұрын
Probably he does but a fraction of times than her and I doubt that people try to convince him that he will never be a true man and not fulfill his mission in life if he doesn't.
@Amandcr
@Amandcr 3 жыл бұрын
My husband's parents brought it up with him a lot.
@kevinschultz6091
@kevinschultz6091 3 жыл бұрын
This was partially cultural, in my experience - although for me, it was "when are you going to get married?" I got that asked several times by one of my aunts, until I politely told her to please stop asking - which actually worked. In contrast, the older Filipino women in my life tended to be more than a bit pushy on this life. It took up to a decade of being a part of that culture (I do Filipino martial arts) before they collectively realized that the answer was "probably never, but if I do it's none of your business."
@robertbrown2706
@robertbrown2706 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about her husband, but my wife and I waited several years before children, and I was asked about it frequently. But I think there is a lot more baggage thrown on women with it. It usually came across as people trying to be friendly and conversational with me. For her there was an additional layer of judgement when people asked her.
@webi6723
@webi6723 2 жыл бұрын
As it should, since it's not his body nor his choice.
@Mialuvsveggies
@Mialuvsveggies 3 жыл бұрын
54, child (and partner free, also ostracized for) free by choice 🙋🏻‍♀️ Absolutely happy & fulfilled 🥳🎉🎉🎉
@spring12431
@spring12431 3 жыл бұрын
Childfree woman here who eventually wants a partner, but I just want to validate your choice! So glad that you're living a happy and fulfilled life. :)
@sonyaj66
@sonyaj66 3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻 to fellow 54 yo CFBC woman!! I’m in a non-married relationship, but honestly, I would be totally fine if not. I was briefly married 30 years ago, and quickly realized it is not for me (I personally think marriage is overrated). Like you, I am happy and have an interesting and fulfilling life! 🙋🏻‍♀️👍🏼🎉
@nicolehall694
@nicolehall694 3 жыл бұрын
You will be hard pressed to find anyone who loves being a parent more than I. I believe children deserve and should expect all of their parents time, love, energy, resources and attention. I am way too vain to do that more than once and LOVE having only one child. No one should feel pressured to have children. It's not like owning an SUV or designer handbag to show you "belong." Being responsible for another life in the world is entirely too important to feel obligatory. I wish more people would choose to be childless. Not everyone is cut out to be a parent. And that's okay
@P.oliver380
@P.oliver380 2 жыл бұрын
Most people fail at parenting. That’s why prisons across the US are ful and every prisoner there has a mother.
@talyah23
@talyah23 2 жыл бұрын
Ad a teacher I second this...we spend far too much time picking up the pieces of children who's parents would rather be drinking wine, watching Netflix or go on holiday than spend time with their kids. If you choose to be a parent your children needs as much attention as you can give when not working...they need to be read to and sung with and have crafts done with them...not given a tablet and left to watch hours of Paw Patrol or spend all day at school only to come home to spend all evening with the nanny or au pair and never have quality time with their parents. Then rather don't have any...
@Tymala1
@Tymala1 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if you get the rude comments asking why you don’t want a second child. I’ve noticed that when people say they are through having kids there is often an uncomfortable silence from the other person acting as if the parent regretted having their first child.
@katec9893
@katec9893 2 жыл бұрын
I was on a dating app and when I put that I didn't want children, a man messaged me saying that I seemed like a kind, warm, good person, so why on earth don't I want children? It was like he was personally affronted by my decision, despite being a complete stranger, and was such a gross message for him to send. When I see men on dating apps who state they want children, the cynic in me thinks 'you mean you want a woman to carry, give birth to a raise your children.' Obviously some men do make great fathers but a lot of them think it's the woman's job to raise children and now they often expect us to hold down a full time job at the same time.
@nylekinc
@nylekinc 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I hit thirty my entire family started berating me about having children. Here’s the kicker though, I actually think I would make an excellent mother but I just haven’t quite felt the pangs of motherhood yet and I’m not sure I ever will. All I know is that this is not the kind of job I should go into half-heartedly.
@madelynnaustin8223
@madelynnaustin8223 3 жыл бұрын
I relate to this.
@akreeger7742
@akreeger7742 3 жыл бұрын
So true. My mom was pestering me at 25, and I flat out had to tell her that if she pushed, and I had kids because of her or before I was ready due to pressure that I would resent her for the rest of my life
@frummel403
@frummel403 3 жыл бұрын
@@akreeger7742 wow that's brave! How did she react to that?
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
"Breaking down in tears" over you not wanting kids? WOW. That's serious enmeshment and overstepping on their part. It never would cross my mind to be sad about someone else not wanting kids just because I had them?
@andrealvoesyou
@andrealvoesyou 3 жыл бұрын
my guess it was either her mom of mother in law...they want grandkids? Still messed up though!
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm 3 жыл бұрын
Or someone that wants kids but can't have them for whatever reason, and seeing someone that everything to have them and doesn't want it could be pretty crushing and angering
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
@@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm I don't think that's what she meant...I have close friends who struggle to get pregnant and yes they take things to heart obviously but not the fact that someone does not want kids...that has nothing whatsoever to do with them.
@surlespasdondine
@surlespasdondine 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrealvoesyou oh yeah maybe...but yes, that's crazy and selfish.
@movingforwardLDTH
@movingforwardLDTH 3 жыл бұрын
@@surlespasdondine , as part of a couple who couldn’t overcome our infertility issues (and who then chose to form our desperately-desired family via adoption), 100% YES re: impact of childfree-by-choice family/friends’ decisions on how I felt about our struggles. As a mom of two now-20-somethings, am I hopeful that someday I’ll be a grandmother? Absolutely! Will I be sad if that doesn’t come to pass? Honestly, yes, for a variety of reasons, (including, but not limited to, some that directly stem from never experiencing pregnancy or childbirth myself.). Do I have the right, if either/both of my kids choose to be childfree, to try to change their minds? Abso-fricken-lutely NOT!!! Their lives, their bodies, their choices.
@annavonarbor9181
@annavonarbor9181 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from the absolutely TERRIFYING and traumatic nature of giving birth (and the non-zero chance of literally dying in the process), I really could not in good conscience add to the already far, far too numerous human population of this planet. Choosing not to produce children is an inherently pro-environment choice. It's not selfish at all.
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын
The ancient Romans wept when a child was born, but celebrated when someone died ( because he/she wouldn’t have to suffer any more.)
@epd0126
@epd0126 3 жыл бұрын
i never had children and i never regretted the decision im 60 now and still no regrets, yes im married. no one has ever questioned my decision
@jazzgirlie
@jazzgirlie 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! My least favorite response when I tell people I don’t know if I want children is “Oh, you’ll change your mind! You’re young, but you’re going to want children, definitely.” It’s so psychologically fucked up for people to accuse non-parents that they’re unaware or not conscious of what they really want.
@SpeedbirdNine9
@SpeedbirdNine9 3 жыл бұрын
Just another form of gaslighting.
@Tymala1
@Tymala1 Жыл бұрын
Each year after age 40 I have wanted them less and less.
@sarahmcqueen3246
@sarahmcqueen3246 3 жыл бұрын
“Why DO you have children?- that might shut them up. Isn’t that as rude as: “Why don’t you have them?” Why do people keep asking us childfree people this question- why we don’t have them/want them? EVERY new job I start, I get the questions, and every time (after I’ve said I’m not maternal/have never considered it/have no interest in becoming a parent etc etc), I get the, “but WHY don’t you want a kid?”... I’ve never wanted a baby, never will do. And I can’t think of any reasons why I would!
@jennifernabrahamable
@jennifernabrahamable 3 жыл бұрын
It’s illegal for employers to ask about your marital or parental status
@user-fb1jm2ru8j
@user-fb1jm2ru8j 3 жыл бұрын
I do that all the time 😅😅😅 Like I give them a sad look with a hint of disgust and ask But why did YOU have them? lol Their faces, speechless, works every time, you guys 🙂
@Patricia.Pangan8
@Patricia.Pangan8 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-fb1jm2ru8j that's an a**hole move btw but l love it
@user-fb1jm2ru8j
@user-fb1jm2ru8j 3 жыл бұрын
@@Patricia.Pangan8 It so is but you have to fight fire with fire sometimes. I know people who desperately want kids and people with children sometimes really salt their wound, like a woman I know, she s been married for 7 years. Her sister in law has two kids and every time they have a scuffle, she reminds her of that, exceptionally cruel.
@melissashiels7838
@melissashiels7838 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I love it. Also, a great response, if they keep pressing is "Well, you don't make it look that great...". This may cause giant ructions/lead to a huge fight, but if a person is this toxic and you don't care about maintaining a relationship with them, this is a good way to verbally get back at them and probably get them out of your life, to boot!
@user-fb1jm2ru8j
@user-fb1jm2ru8j 3 жыл бұрын
When someone asks me why didn't you have children, I just ask back Why did you have them? 😅 In an innocent voice and a half dirty look with a note of subtle disgust 🤣 They get so confused lool
@naomiwilliams8850
@naomiwilliams8850 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🤣
@nancybender3076
@nancybender3076 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Chelsea. I'm in my fifties and childless. I made the decision not to have children when I was 16 years old, and have never wavered. A number of my female friends (around my age) are also childless, which is so surprising to me; I thought I would be the odd woman out by the time I reached my 30s. It’s sad that there is still so much derision around the concept. It felt somewhat brave to make this decision in 1980s, but it’s crazy that, 40 years later, it is still controversial to so many.
@Sony4Ever321
@Sony4Ever321 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jquas1965
@jquas1965 Жыл бұрын
I’m also in my 50s and knew since I was 16 I don’t want kids not only that I knew since I was 21 that I wanted to keep on never having a boyfriend. Of coarse I’m ugly so all that was easy for me.
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын
I’m childfree, but it wasn’t a conscious decision I made, I just knew, from the time I was six or seven years old and witnessed my mother changing my nephew’s diaper, that it wasn’t for me.
@alisonfoud4969
@alisonfoud4969 3 жыл бұрын
I have never wanted children and have always made my views clear when asked. The most annoying comment is "you will never understand love until you have a baby". It is condescending and is often said by women with overindulged children. My response is to tell them they need therapy if they feel so empty in themselves. I am very happy in my life and feel fulfilled.
@butwhyyyythough
@butwhyyyythough 3 жыл бұрын
Daaaaang I'm gonna steal that therapy line! I love it lol
@alisonfoud4969
@alisonfoud4969 3 жыл бұрын
@@butwhyyyythough 😊
@rejoyce2121
@rejoyce2121 3 жыл бұрын
Yes girl!!!
@PrettyTranslatorSarahMoon
@PrettyTranslatorSarahMoon 3 жыл бұрын
Only now, as I'm about to turn 40, is everyone finally starting to get off my case about not having kids. 😂
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 3 жыл бұрын
Funny that, hey? Did you ever go through the "maybe she's gay" stage? That was such a laugh!
@PrettyTranslatorSarahMoon
@PrettyTranslatorSarahMoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@becsterbrisbane6275 Wellll, I am bi, so it's not much of a stretch? 🧐
@luna-p
@luna-p 3 жыл бұрын
Love the name and the profile pic... and the not having kids 😁👍
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын
That’s funny. For me, the pressure to have kids intensified when I was in my forties.
@stephenjames.5456
@stephenjames.5456 3 жыл бұрын
I would also add to this excellent video that young women seeking tubal ligations are often questioned and challenged more than young men who are seeking vasectomies. That’s really messed up. :(
@itsallgoodyes8782
@itsallgoodyes8782 3 жыл бұрын
I am SO happy about you making this and about all the wonderful people commenting below! I’ve been married for 14 years and my husband and I had decided earlier on to never have kids. We’ve heard everything under the sun, you name it, it’s been said. I honestly used to think it has to do with the toxicity of the culture we belong to but reading others comments has been eye opening. Nothing against children, in fact we’re the favorite aunt and uncle to all our nieces and nephews - but we both just knew it’s not the right path for us, especially in this day and age. People who have an issue have been shown the door and honestly our lives have been so much better (: It’s almost like they can’t stand the fact that we have more freedom to do what we choose and go out of their way to say, “you just wait and see, once you have kids you won’t be so smug about your life”. Quite entertaining...☺️
@ericjj6558
@ericjj6558 3 жыл бұрын
I love this 😂👏🏼👏🏼
@RC093
@RC093 3 жыл бұрын
So true! Misery loves company.
@florencee3324
@florencee3324 2 жыл бұрын
Yes these are the same people who tell in shape women that they should enjoy it since pregnancy is going to wreck their body, just disgusting 😒.
@sarahgallant6933
@sarahgallant6933 3 жыл бұрын
being raise almost all my childhood in a very poor household always stressing about money and food, i am terrified to have a kid and end up in the same situation. i rather be childfree than risk to make a kid live the same childhood i had
@dyva9
@dyva9 3 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel. I don't understand how all these poor people I see dont feel that way.
@naomiwilliams8850
@naomiwilliams8850 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I could never bring a child into poverty
@socuriousjenee5105
@socuriousjenee5105 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyva9 Poor people must have kids. The more the better. Because they end of filling the low paid jobs that don’t require education. When I heard that the real fear of accessibility to BC and abortion is to prevent limits on this human resource. And also prisons are money makers too.
@slimetank394
@slimetank394 2 жыл бұрын
@@socuriousjenee5105 ah yes, viewing human being as resources for exploitation to keep the system running, classic civilization point of view.
@kittychasesquirrels
@kittychasesquirrels 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a baby recently and all the older ladies in my family keep asking me about my older sister, speculating about her plans for children. It's so rude to hear what they say. Thanks for this video - it gives me some ideas on what to say back to them.
@bibliophilelady6106
@bibliophilelady6106 3 жыл бұрын
My older brother and sister in law have never wanted kids. I just had my son after struggling to conceive for ten years. My parents knew they were not getting any grandbabies out of Eddie and always put a lot of pressure on me. I had to get very rude before they stopped badgering me about it.
@yiravarga
@yiravarga 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this was a thing! Thank you for bringing this awareness. I am an adoptee and have wished I was never born. I strongly support women who might not want to bring a person into a world of suffering and poverty.
@Featherfinder
@Featherfinder Жыл бұрын
To be honest I think it was so loving and so courageous that your biological mother didn’t choose to have you killed before you could be born. That had to have been hard for her, going against the tide like that so that you could live here in the world (which you certainly had a right to do). She did the right thing and you were, and are, totally worth her sacrifice that she made -as well as whatever sacrifices your adoptive parents have made. Life can be so hard to bear sometimes and I know this firsthand. But please realize that this world is a better one because you’re here in it. And never give up. I’m saying a prayer for your happiness, Yira Varga 🙏♥
@lucianamaza9908
@lucianamaza9908 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 24 and never seen myself in the future having children. Everyone in my family knows that, and still they always make comments about how i will surely change my mind, and if I dont then I'm gonna regret it when I'm older. My dad tells me I will just be an old woman surrounded by cats, and I tell him That's fine by me, I love cats anyway. I hate that my choices are question that way, and sometimes even make me doubt my own judgement, "but what if everyone is right and i will regret it?" even though i surely know i wont regret it because motherhood is not within me. Hate how everyone think is entitled to an opinion when is not even asked!
@LucieEleanor
@LucieEleanor 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so patronising when people say things like that, as if you don’t know your own mind because they believe you to be young. People are full of opinions but you know you better than anyone :)
@lolixxxx988
@lolixxxx988 3 жыл бұрын
I am also totally fine with being the "crazy lady of the cats", they are way more fun than stressing about children!!! Hang in there...I have always known I did not want children, I am 41 and have never ever, not even once, changed my mind. I used to think I might change it someday but that never happened. I guess that's because I have pondered about it a lot, so now I can be sure it was a carefully made decision. The good thing about aging is that people no longer ask you such inappropiate questions 💪💪💪
@7ScarletRoses
@7ScarletRoses 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard of more women who regretted having children than those who regretted not to. And even if one day you wake up at 45 and suddenly want that in your life, you can adopt/foster ;). At a certain age I would not consider adopting a young child anymore, but you can foster untill much later. You have all the time in the world to decide if you want children to play some kind of role in your life but be careful that your decisions are not motivated by fear (of missing out/the judgement of others etc) but by love and genuine want
@shaquicedacosta
@shaquicedacosta 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Crazy Cat Lady trope. No uncle (in my case), I’ll be the Mentally Stable Dog Lady sittin pretty on 15 acres in the mountains. Where’s my tea? I need to sip it...
@jlv-zb8pk
@jlv-zb8pk 3 жыл бұрын
I've never wanted kids and have a cat with my husband and it's the best thing ever!!! Also, I tend to not even tell people I don't want kids. I'm 30 now, and if I wanted to have kids, it would probably have to be within the next 5 years or so. I just don't want the questions and the skepticism. Most people don't understand. 🙁
@SuperLadyDanger
@SuperLadyDanger 3 жыл бұрын
She left out, “you’ll change your mind” “we’ll see if you feel that way when you’re a little older”. As if to say that you can be old enough to have kids in their eyes, but still not know your own mind!
@kialuvsyoo
@kialuvsyoo 3 жыл бұрын
that is a very good point
@twilson4631
@twilson4631 3 жыл бұрын
My reaction to my best friends saying they don't want kids "Cool". If they change their mind "great" if they don't "great".
@chocolatefaerie
@chocolatefaerie 3 жыл бұрын
True. Been told that for the last 20 years
@russellstephen6998
@russellstephen6998 2 жыл бұрын
It really is fascinating, and shows a lot of cultural misogyny, because myself nor any of my male friends have ever felt pressured to become fathers, meanwhile almost all of my female friends have received some form of social pressure about becoming mothers now that we’re moving into our mid-20s.
@DaneReidVoiceOver
@DaneReidVoiceOver Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I had a vasectomy. The conversation ends when I tell people that.
@rajingbutterfli
@rajingbutterfli 3 жыл бұрын
How about us ladies that are dealing with infertility. Its difficult to deal with how people make assumptions..its just hurtful.
@Sajirah
@Sajirah 3 жыл бұрын
I’m infertile but also childfree (thus not bothered by my inability to have kids) so whenever people hound me for babies I tell them I can’t have them and they immediately stop because shaming people seems to be the only way to get them to realize how inappropriate and hurtful those questions can be. Hopefully this leads to them avoiding such questions in the future with other women, but knowing how nosy people are I’m not holding my breath.
@melanie0971
@melanie0971 3 жыл бұрын
This exactly. We chose not to share our infertility struggles so people made assumptions. It was none of their business yet still hurtful. We had resigned to be being childfree when my daughter came along (without treatments) when I was 38. So now we get questions about why we waited so long. There's no winning with some people.
@leslieday6664
@leslieday6664 3 жыл бұрын
100%. I don't even know how to categorize myself anymore. I am not pursuing treatment so am I CF by choice or CF not by choice? I am sure our friends/acquaintances assume it's the former rather than latter and I don't feel the need to discuss it with them or justify myself to anyone. People need to just STFU.
@scemat
@scemat 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely. I have a friend going through this and it is really stressful. She shouldn't have to share health info with every nosy person in her life. "Why you don't have kids" questions are inappropriate for everyone, no matter if they are child-free by choice or not.
@casebeth
@casebeth 3 жыл бұрын
This is not your space. Childfree means not WANTING children
@tanya292
@tanya292 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’m childfree and I hate it when people comment on these things. I’m from a conservative country and I am seen as a walking womb by some
@farrahc7055
@farrahc7055 3 жыл бұрын
Which country do you come from?
@tanya292
@tanya292 3 жыл бұрын
@@farrahc7055 India
@spring12431
@spring12431 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear you have that experience where you live! I hope there are at least some people close to you that can respect and validate your decision.. and even if not, you can be that person for yourself!
@farrahc7055
@farrahc7055 3 жыл бұрын
@@tanya292 Thanks for answering.
@tanya292
@tanya292 3 жыл бұрын
@@spring12431 I have stopped caring. That’s the only way. Thank you though. It’s nice to hear encouragement!
@luckyone2837
@luckyone2837 2 жыл бұрын
My personal reason for not having children is I don’t want to go through all the physical torment that being pregnant puts you in I don’t want to go through all the physical and mental torment once the child is out of me it’s forever and I don’t wanna deal with it too much stress life is hard as it is no kids for me thanks
@scemat
@scemat 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent points. I would also like to add that, as I have some people in my social circles who have fertility problems, can you imagine being asked about children when you want them, can't have them and don't feel like sharing very private health-related info with every nosy person in your life? It is really infuriating that people ask these questions at all.
@prachiasharma311
@prachiasharma311 3 жыл бұрын
I am 21 and whenever I say I am not for marriage, relationships or kids, I am often told that I am a kid who would change by the time I would see my friends having kids and getting married. What they don't understand is that I have never followed what my friends are up to. I may be 21 but I am pretty sure I am going to stay the same way even when I am 40. I am all for my career.
@nawrozzahanpreety6857
@nawrozzahanpreety6857 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I am 26, I do agree with you, and also people keep saying all these to me too.
@spring12431
@spring12431 3 жыл бұрын
Keep listening to and trusting what you want, Prachi! I made the decision not to have kids at 17 and I’m turning 30 in a few months and am just as strong in my conviction.
@ldg44
@ldg44 3 жыл бұрын
I never was the type to envision my life with biological children. It was never something I felt was 'right'. I'm 30, been with the same guy since I was 15 and I (we) still feel this way. I think sometimes we just know we don't want children the same way as someone knows they want to be a mother.
@AlicedeTerre
@AlicedeTerre 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 20 I was told I’d change my mind. I’m 30 now and nope.
@pamelajensen5961
@pamelajensen5961 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you! It’s nice to see more women doing this, not that I think it’s good or bad it’s just nice to know I’m not alone lol. I’m turning 40 this year and I am so glad I never reproduce and I’m so glad I never got married. the funny thing is I’ve been in longer relationships than my friends who got married and had kids. Things have definitely changed with age but the decision to not get married and have kids has been one I have never regretted.
@devia86
@devia86 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be one of those women who stigmatized other women for choosing not to have kids. Part of it was my own hurt. I was having a hard time getting pregnant, so I was afraid of being childfree, but not by choice. I now have a two year old, have never regretted becoming a mother and I love it, but I realized recently this would be hell if I did not want this 100%. This was the choice I made for myself and I should not have stigmatized those who made the best choice for them.
@duplessishouse
@duplessishouse Жыл бұрын
Same with me. Had to do IVF. He’s now 13 months and it’s so hard, but not nearly as hard as before he was here and I wasn’t sure if I could have him, I see three piles of washing now the extra dishes and I’m so thankful for them. But I really really wanted a baby. Interesting to read other people’s comments and stories though, it is a lot of work and sacrifice
@karinalumen9722
@karinalumen9722 2 жыл бұрын
This is low key a FU to the people in her life that are making her feel small for not desiring kids and im ALL FOR IT.
@honeydewgem543
@honeydewgem543 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very necessary conversation. Many women like myself feel like we need to explain or justify such a personal choice.
@goliathtigerfishes
@goliathtigerfishes 3 жыл бұрын
I was almost aborted but my parents decided to keep me, which I actually wish wasn’t the case. I would never want to create a human being and have them feel the same as I do and there are so many other reasons why I don’t want children. Physical and mental illnesses that are genetic, financial, fear of what happens to the body during and after pregnancy, possible death and knowing that I’ve got my own life goals keeps me from ever wanting them. This video felt like a welcome surprise and it’s nice to know we aren’t so alone out there.
@dyva9
@dyva9 3 жыл бұрын
A comment that I often get is, " What if your mother thought the way you do? You would have never been born." Maybe. Or maybe I would have been born in a better life. Sometimes I tell them, " If I was destined to be born, I would have been no matter what" or "Maybe my mom forced something that shouldn't have happened."
@akreeger7742
@akreeger7742 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also terrified of pregnancy and giving birth. I think it's likely going to be a traumatic experience
@samevans1289
@samevans1289 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyva9 "Yeah, and I wouldn't be here having this stimulating, unsolicited debate with you"
@slimetank394
@slimetank394 2 жыл бұрын
@@dyva9 "then i would be spared from enduring your bullcraps"
@dyva9
@dyva9 2 жыл бұрын
@@slimetank394 Woaw! What a thought-provoking, well-thought-out, carefully-researched argument you gave there. Honored
@alfamaize
@alfamaize 3 жыл бұрын
It's also pretty ironic that the "side" that wants to prevent choice is also the same "side" that totally prevents support. They were the ones who have cut taxes that made college WAY more expensive than it was for me, or even my parents. They are the ones who also force people to work when they should not, prevent healthcare for all, etc etc etc. Maybe some policies that make it easier to be a parent, as suggested.....
@wendybeach1036
@wendybeach1036 3 жыл бұрын
They still need slaves for their wars and low-paid jobs they would never do.
@xixiwu6927
@xixiwu6927 3 жыл бұрын
My mom's friends kept on telling me that having a child as a woman is the right way to go. You are never truly a woman if you have never experienced the pain of child birth. I am like EXCUSE ME? Having a child is an option, not an obligation. Maybe you should mind your own business since mine has absolutely nothing to do with you.
@Azarko212
@Azarko212 3 жыл бұрын
Love my child free life, and it’s gonna stay that way. No ones business why no ones son has cream pied me One this I always say is “the Duggar’s had enough kids on my behalf”
@ses-ei7oc
@ses-ei7oc 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, haha.
@twilight6779
@twilight6779 Жыл бұрын
🤢🤮
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын
What does it mean, to “cream pie” someone? Does that mean, to impregnate? And who are the Duggars?
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A to F | Guess the mixed color #colormixing #satisfying #art
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