That's how I understood it

Symbolic or maybe a metaphor..?

Nope. This video leaves out part of the effect that appears in the film. After Superman spins the Earth back in time, he reverses direction to get it rotating in the proper direction again. It would be nice if this explanation applied; it would make more sense. But the bit that I just mentioned ruins it.

That’s not how time travel works

@@4891MR So true. When he stops going around super fast, the Earth should immediately start spinning the right direction. Instead, it's still spinning backwards and he has to spin it back up in the correct direction again. So still a plot hole.

That's not true

Neeeerrrrrrrdddddddd!

I mean they could've just Halo dropped Frodo.

I always figured the stealth part was the main reason. The ring wraths can fly as we see, and I'm sure the orcs would have catapults or something.

@@kieronparr3403 lol why do you say this?

Which does raise the other plot hole of the trio reacting to Buckbeak's very clearly implied execution in the audience's first viewing of events. This is reinforced by Dumbledore later saying of the time turner that more than 1 life may be spared referring to Buckbeak, which clearly indicates Buckbeak was killed. I assume it's a movie exclusive plot hole, but Dumbeldore's remark in particular just cannot be excused away.

@@jaeusa160 Is it possible that Dumbledore was just telling them what he knew he was supposed to in order for them to behave how they were supposed to?

Jaeus the teens turned away at the last second not wanting to see buckbeaks death and didn’t see it or the fact he had gone

@@jaeusa160 watch the film. In the first run through. From the kid's perspective, Buckbeak is concealed by the trees. They see the executioner walk towards where Buckbeak was chained up, raise his axe and bring it down accompanied by a chopping sound. When you see the same scene from the perspective of future Harry and Hermione, the executioner walks towards where Buckbeak was chained up and chops a pumpkin in half. Definitely not a plothole. Anything Dumbledore says to the contrary is clearly to avoid giving the kids knowledge of what is to come. He knows what is happening at the time as he distracts the minister and executioner, giving the kids time to save Buckbeak.

@@MasterCleife The way it was shot made it clear they saw it. Their view was not so obstructed that they could miss something the size of a horse, or its absence. Likewise the Dumbledore issue. If he perceived they were using the time turner to begin with, he wouldn't need to act like Buckbeak died to encourage them to do something he already knows that they did. The movie is shot in a way such that an event was changed. This was done to make it all more dramatic, but it does also create this plot hole, as plot devices are wont to do.

Exactly. Their videos seem to lack any sort of research as of late, and I just stopped watching after the first entry. Everyone KNOWS it’s Amanda. Just no one in the movie asks about her. Not even Kim herself.

Literally no one has ever complained about Amanda's death being unagknowledged. You wondering doesn't mean everyone. Stop trying to stir up bullshit.

@@unropednope4644 someone takes KZfaq comments far too seriously. Apparently people do since it was the first entry on this list. Have a Snickers, my dude. You're a ridiculous troll when you're hungry.

@@unropednope4644 You are literally replying to someone who is literally in the process of complaining that Amanda's death was never ackowledged. The OP also literally never mentions the word "everyone". You are literally a useless troll who needs to learn what the word "literally" means, and needs to take their own advice and literally stop trying to stir up bullshit when you literally have no knowledge of which you speak.

Came to make this exact comment

I agree, except I would say it is a hero story, just that the point is that all heroes aren't always the most obvious ones, and that there are many ways to be a hero. Aragorn is one hero in the Tolkien universe, but the main heroes of LotR are the hobbits, particularly Frodo and Sam.

Yup, which is why they only arrive to help save the people when the ring isn't around or just after it gets destroyed.

Well shit big mahalos for answering that cuz I was about to ask the same thing

Or they would easily be spotted in Mordor as theres not a lot of traffic in the air.

The issue for me is how did he, alone, put the giant spike into the back of his head in order to "jack in"

Good point!

But it's not true. In the movie, Superman orbits super fast until the Earth appears to be rotating backwards, but then he reverses direction to make it start spinning forward again. Why would he need to do that if it was just a shot of him taking himself back in time?

@@4891MR yep that’s true. He would just need to stop flying that fast and then he’d rejoins normally moving time. The whole breaking the speed of light is supposedly impossible as well, Superman would need to overcome infinite mass somehow.

If anything the Earth rotating backwards makes even less sense, you don't travel back in time by simply moving fast. Time is relative to speed, the faster you move the slower time will be within your reference frame compared to someone moving slower but you only ever move forward in time. This time dilation is calculated at about 10x at 99.5% speed of light, this means that for every minute at that speed 10 minutes will pass on Earth. This time dilation exponentially increases towards the closer your get to the speed of light such as 1000x at 99.99995% or 22369621x at 99.9999999999999%, at the speed of light however you don't perceive any passage of time and from your perspective your trip will be instantaneous. So assuming Superman was travelling at the speed of light, which would require infinite energy, he would only be moving forward in time and from his perspective no time will have passed. The issue here is we see him moving in the close up shots indicating passage of time for him, this means he isn't travelling at the speed of light. You could argue he is travelling faster than light allowing him to break some time space laws to travel back in time, the issue with this however is no indication of such speeds at all where we should be seeing energy all around him in the close up shots but instead we see space with the Earth whoosing past fast below him. And there's the whole part where he started flying in the opposite direction which makes the Earth's reverse rotation gradually come to a stop and spin back up to normal, this part only makes sense if he is physically changing the Earth's rotation. I've also had a look for Richard Donner's explanation noted in this video but couldn't find anything of it, instead I found the Blu-Ray commentary where he explicitly states "And he stops the world. And now it's actually going backwards. Which means, none of this actually happens." which adds further credence to the notion that their idea was he was physically changing the rotation. So no matter how you slice it the scene doesn't make sense, you can head canon that he was going FTL but it doesn't really line up with the visuals we see.

@@Sevicify Agreed, keep in mind this movie was filmed in what, 1979, realism in fiction movies wasn't really a big consideration! Although, I think they did a better job in this movie than most for the time. Yeah, I was going to mention going FTL could get you going backwards in time from what I remember. You mentioned that too. Of course how superman is able to break the laws of physics, not sure! I remember it being something about particles on the event horizon of a black hole violating the uncertainity principle, therefore, backwards time travel of the particle is possible, something like that from Hawkins book. (I read it like 20 years ago, so don't quote me!) Maybe superman is breaking the uncertainity principle by going too fast, God gets mad, and makes him go back in time as punishment, because Lois Lane was really a pain in the a** anyway.

Maybe the idea is that while he’s back in time, there is still the original version of him working on everything else… Except the problem there is why doesn’t he run into himself when he rescues Lois?

@@aaronworthing1023 Well I would say that the "original" timeline superman was doing all the things he SHOULD be doing... As for running into himself later? Well he's NOT really supposed to be doing this at all. He just doesn't care at that point... So one could argue that no superman could NOT help anyone else who died, or anything that happened.. As that's even MORE of a problem... Again he's not SUPPOSED to go back ever.... But on this one time, he doesn't really care. So nature abhorring a vacuum, it doesn't cause a paradox, the original just "STOPS" the one thing in the past he wanted changed and "moves on" (stitch-work kinda)... It's a MASSIVE "no-no"... and there might be repercussions, but.... At least this is the way I understood it back in the day. (comics had a LOT of time-travel hi-jinx at the time too)

Maybe it's because the other people weren't giving him full access to their vaginas?

It definitely tells one thing: Time travel and it's paradoxes are a beach. The point is, that the Supe who went back in time to save Lois, is the same but 'older' Supe that's currently trying to fix all the issues. And the sane thing to do in this case, is just waiting for his former self to arrive to check on Lois and tell him he now has to go into the past or there will be consequences.

Actually the first book covered this dependence but the movies ignored it for most of them. In the first book, near the end, Hammond boasts about how it doesn't matter if some escape captivity since he has made them dependant on a specific substance and one of the main characters starts screaming at him that that substance is found in coffee, which grows on the nearest habituated land and they only need a little. So the end result was that it wouldn't stop the dinosaurs at all. The islands are also noted to have coffee growing on them naturally due to prior habitation? unclear but that is why the dinosaurs are still alive in book 2.

@@liamnehren1054 I love that the life-saving substance is coffee. I can relate to that.

@@matman000000 lol well actually it's a chemical dependency, so it is more like referencing the fact that Caffeine is a highly addictive mind altering drug, that takes away your ability to concentrate without it. It's basically a heroine addiction for the dinos.

Well going by the lore, if he went off by himself and met an agent in the matrix, the guy in front of the monitors operating would surely see it and rat him out.

@Mike and Katie Show good one, hadn't considered that.

I always assumed "all I see is blonde, brunette, redhead" was him saying you could actually interpret the data if you looked at it long enough. Dumb and unrealistic, but not much less dumb and unrealistic than the rest of the premise, and it could provide a way for him to interact without other people knowing if no one was around.

I don't think there are any real potential users of the one ring. The idea is that it will eventually corrupt anyone who wears it and isn't meant to be used.

100 percent. I just believe i remember reading somewhere that the ring gets more powerful the closer to godhood you are, in order to tempt you further or something to that effect

@@blaineweaver1300 "In Deep Geek" described them as messengers of a god-like figure. So they're angels. Hence the wings

They had potential power and they were a very proud race. Pride+ Power+ One Ring = consumed by and beholden to the Ring.

I think it depends on if they made the decision during the movie, but just forgit to explain it.

i would say it depends on the plothole

Most of the list was stuff that was in the actual movies though.. people just weren't paying attention.

@@lynnevetter Nowhere in my comment did I say it was a blanket statement about every movie. If the entry did have someone using info that wasn’t in the movie, like the Matrix, then those are the ones I was referring to.

Unless he missed the window he wanted. Like rewinding a VCR tape for a certain scene, he just fast forwarded it a little.

@@cagedrage1462 😂😂

and I thought traveling at such extreme speed, only YOUR perception of time would drastically SLOW, not REVERSE EVERYTHING?!?

I took it as he was flying to reverse time. IE that time was actually moving backwards. flying in the other direction was just making time go forwards again.

The direction should be irrelevant. IIRC Einsteins relativity could be interpreted that going at speed faster than light actually means you reverse timeflow. The biggest issue is simply breaking the light barrier, which is impossible at least for general and special relativity. And that from both directions, at least when you have mass.

That arm was crushed so badly that anyone that found it would have simply disregarded it as scrap metal.

@@elbryan9 The movie doesn't really hint that there's any vital technology in the arm anyway. And it's possible John and Sarah took care of it after the credits started and it was just too anticlimactic to be on screen.

Actually, there is an explanation for it and it ties into the series’ overarching theme of destiny. That second arm was recovered by Cyberdyne and allowed them to continue work on Skynet. When they said Judgement Day was inevitable in T3, it’s because time is set in stone. Attempts to change the past are only temporary and the universe will eventually return itself to the same path. Destroying the original arm postponed Judgement Day, but the second arm was the universe’s way of ensuring it would still happen. The destiny theme is actually present in all the movies if you look closely. T1 - Skynet sends the terminator to remove Connor as a threat, ends up creating the circumstances that led to him becoming a threat. T2 - John and Sarah attempt to stop Judgement Day by destroying the arm and chip but accidentally leave another arm that ensures Judgement Day will continue. T3 - John attempts to destroy Skynet, ends up inside a military bunker that allows him to survive Judgement Day T Salvation - Sends a cyborg to kill John, cyborg defects and gives John his heart so he could survive a fatal injury.

Yup that’s the issue with the flying man in the tights /s

Then why did he correct the rotation?

@@JamesD2957 I always took it not as him correcting the spin but that he had gone back a little too far because he actually wouldn't be able to see what was going on in front of himself on Earth at that moment. The images he would be seeing would be off because of his speed relative to the speed of light. So, he stops, looks and then goes forward just a little bit. But yes, it does appear more as if he is starting the rotation the other way; I can see how that could be seen. I could see either but the mind always went to what would be closest (but still technically off) to scientific possibilities within what was shown. Great point though!!!

@@killamockingbird82 if we want to get even more pedantic (and why not, it's a super hero movie?), there is no universal direction in space, so it doesn't matter which direction you fly, it would be the same "time travel" either way. Which is kind of why time travel doesn't actually work

@@JamesD2957 Very true, and excellent point!

GOAT of explaining plot holes or having them?

@@a-man3179 both

At the speed of light no... but FASTER then yes. Which if you're viewing things from Superman's viewpoint the reverse spin and all the other effects make perfect sense as to the relative viewer at that speed time would stop then begin turning backwards. And yes stopping would negate that effect.But the direction he flies in irrelevant as long as breaks the speed of light Although this ignores that it would take an infinite amount of energy to get him to the full speed of light let alone beyond, and that his mass would increase as he reached the speed of light thereby turning himself into a black hole which would cause way Way WAY more destruction that Luther's missiles!!!

When I spin around (e.g. clockwise) I get dizzy and have to 'unwind' myself with a couple of counter clockwise spins. Maybe Superman just got super dizzy?

That and the Eagles could probably be corrupted by the ring too. So the ring would never get near Mordor and we'd end up with bird Sméagol. Hobbits were chosen because they were one of the most resilient races to the ring's power also, because of their simple lifestyle which the ring had more trouble corrupting than say greedy men or treasure hungry dwarves.

Human physics wouldn’t apply to a Kryptonian, IMO. I also believe that is why they emphasized the fact Superman was rotating against the Earth’s natural rotation. If he was going with the rotation, most people would figure he is traveling forward in time. That’s the best explanation I can muster, but honestly if you know about Superman’s comic history, they give him “super” any and everything if the situation calls for it! Super dancing? Being able to throw a plastic/rubber S logo from his chest logo and have it enlarge as it travels towards its target and snare him, net style. That’s why, though I love more than a few Superman stories, he doesn’t even crack my top 30 favorite comic book characters. I find him kind of cheesy and dated, though I do feel that MAN OF STEEL is one of the best DCEU flicks so far, along with SHAZAM, ZACK SNYDER’S JUSTICE LEAGUE, and WONDER WOMAN. THE BATMAN, if it covers the stories I think they are, will be added to that BEST OF list. 🤘🏼

Plus animals can’t create lysine anyway, so need to consume it from external sources (plants and fruits rich in lysine, or animals which have a diet consisting of said plants and fruits). Also factor in that pterosaurs are believed to have had a diet which consisted largely of fish (which is high in lysine) and the survival of the pterosaurs is practically a given.

There exists some possibilities 1.Skynet probably didn't feel it was necessary and that a T800 was enough. And it almost was. It would've succeeded if not for Kyle Reese 2.Its possible the T1000 didn't exist in the original timeline and was a product of altered timeline tech 3.Skynet doesn't fully trust the T1000 and only sent it back in T2 to kill John as a last resort. The T1000 is shown to possess some intelligence that T800s and other terminators badly lack. Even Skynet is somewhat fearful of the T1000 and there even exists a video here on KZfaq on the matter called "The Terminator that even Skynet is afraid of" or something like that. You can look it up yourself

Send it a little after. Kyle's dead, and a pregnant Sarah would be easy to chase. The Terminator wouldn't even have to kill her. A punch to her stomach and Skynet wins. It would make for a pretty shit movie though.

Skynet had no idea why the first terminator failed. It only knew it was sent back and nothing changed. Maybe it couldn't find Sarah Connor?

Perhaps there is a limit on how many years you can time travel, this would not allow Skynet to send the T-1000 back to help the T-800

It’s explained that Skynet was on the verge of destruction in T1. It sent back the terminator as a last resort. It was a multi pronged attack. Send back multiple terminators to different points in time to kill John and Sara. But it was limited on when to send them back because not only were many records lost during the war but Sara and John lived off the grid for years at a time. That made hard to forgive out where they were, so they sent the terminators to time periods when they knew of Sara and John’s location. It worked to a point with Skynet having a different origin and altering the timeline. So it was able to sent back anther terminator to kill John when he was a bit older, knowing that the first terminator failed but not knowing why. They sent it at a different time because they knew Reese wasn’t there to protect Sara and John. They repeated this in T3. In all cases the humans were able to send someone or something back to protect them. However each time altered the timeline and Skynet’s origins and it’s history. So it was able to send back more and more advanced terminators. For all we know the sending back of all the terminators could of happened in minutes.

This is exactly what I’m saying lol. You can’t just reverse time for the entire universe by traveling faster than light.

Forget the secret code part, how did he physically plug himself in and out of the matrix alone?! It is still a plot hole, and they just tried to explain it after the fact.

@@MikeM-np4od Yeah, yeah... I am thinking. Did he weld together a robotic arm that pulled the plug on timer? That would have looked even more suspicious.

One - He never plugged himself in... Two - Has no one ever played a Console or PC game??? He created an Avatar and put himself as a PROGRAM back into the Matrix... He is NOT physically there!!! Do people really think that when we play God of War or GTA Online that we somehow Physically transport ourselves into the games??? The answer is RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSES!!!! He Created an AVATAR!!!

@@Phoenix2312 The game sure arrived after the film, I saw the film in the cinema a few times. No, I haven't played the games. So it was not explained at all. What was the fuzz about eating the juicy steak then, it was his avatar having a dinner? In the film context alone it sure hints he did get the taste of it.

@@magnuskallas You are correct... Every Emotion, Feeling and Such a Human could have Away from the Matrix is recreated so that they never know they are hooked up to a computer... This is explained very early in the film - I get what you are saying though, How did Cipher experience those sensations without being Jacked in to the Matrix... And that is a fair question! Best explanation... Unreliable Narrator? He is speaking from memory... Not what he is currently experiencing? Yeah, bit of a stretch I know... Much as I want to give the idea some credit as it does explain many of his erratic behaviours in the movie, I don't think Cipher is that good a Coder... LOL! But hey, Maybe thats wrong... I mean his name is very cryptic...

Also, at no point in Jurassic World do they mention the presence of a lysine contingency there. The only dinosaur we are aware of that has that deficiency is the T-Rex. There is no reason information that indicated any other surviving dinosaurs. It’s possible they didn’t bother with the deficiency with future specimens after the earlier failure. There fore it’s possible there is no amino issue with any of the new dinosaurs.

I was wondering the same thing. It’s mentioned more than once.

Exactly. There's an entire scene explaining that Freeze was able to find a cure for stage 1 of the disease, but his work was interrupted. It's a very convenient coincidence that Alfred just happens to come down with the exact same rare disease that Freeze's wife had, but it's not a plot hole.

@@joshuawilkinson6121 Yep. Because that scene explains Freeze himself.

Yeah I don't see how plugging into a private program is any easier than plugging into the Matrix. My assumption is that he was in the Matrix to do something else but took a detour to meet the Agent? But then wouldn't the Operator see it? It just doesn't make sense, sadly.

WE HAVE A WEINER! errrrr.... Winnner! LOL! How does no one else work this out!!!!

yes, this was addressed in the second movie with regards to Isla Sorna. Early on, Hammond is discussing with Ian Malcolm how they are flourishing without being supplied with lysine

@Anthony You are forgetting Instinct... The Pterosaurs would act on Basic Instinct as they are Clones essentially... And it is believed that the species ate FISH... It would not be in their Evolutionary Mind to change diet and begin seeking Soy Beans - Maybe over time they could work it out, but the principle idea is that this would not happen fast enough to prevent them dying.

@@Phoenix2312 I mean neither did the raptors from the book, they are also running on instinct. Animals can usually tell they need some type of food to keep themselves going. If we go to the movie the quote is, "life finds a way"

@@A2forty Very good! :) And yeah... Its true! Trouble is that often also takes time... The few Ptera's that got out - Time would not be on their side... Still... That's a good memory you have!

@@Phoenix2312 Funnily enough, fish is an excellent source of lysine…

Cause mr freeze has it too. He keeps it in check via his suit and taking medicine. He gave Batman his own dose to cure Alfred. My guess is that mr freeze has stage 2 and the suit keeps it closer to a manageable stage 1 and medicine takes it from there.

I mean it's also impossible for matter (therefore Superman) to travel faster than light anyways. Nothing happens when you go faster than light because you can't go faster than light. A certain amount of fantasy is therefore needed.

There's always that go-to counter-argument when it comes to what you're saying and that's "BECAUSE IT'S SUPERMAN!" (I'm not saying it's a good argument or one I'd use personally, but it's one that gets used nonetheless.)

@@ArcherSuh4721 And a similar counter-argument when time travel is involved. It's very existence in a story ultimately leads to plot holes. Time travel is my least favorite thing about any type of fantasy.

@@wanderinghistorian well then just say Superman is magic. Why give a pseudo scientific explanation for something that doesn’t adhere to the laws of physics.

Special relativity theory state that is you move faster that light you move backward in time, the thing is nothing with mass can move faster.

No

Just one problem with it: When Supes slows down at the end of the clip shown here, the earth continues to spin backwards instead of immedaitely spinning forwards again. Not only that, but if you watch the _full_ scene, he then turns around and circles the earth in the other direction, slowly making it spin forward again! (the clip shown here only hints at that, it is deliberately cut short to fit the explanation) That's why people interpret it like he physically spun it around, because it was portrayed as such. Regardless of the writers'/producers' intent or explanations after the fact.

I mean he is in a negotiation with The Machines so maybe one of them is the “operator”

Yup Bruce explicitly explains that Alfred was at an earlier stage and that Freeze had knowledge of how to cure that stage (by the time he got that part figured out, it was already too late for Nora). Why he was carrying the cure around was what confused me because I must have missed something.

@@colinray4186 I figured that he had it on him because he has it too and figured out that being cold all the time slowed or stopped the diseases progression but he still had to take medicine for it. He was giving Bruce the medicine that had on hand for himself.

Absolutely!

Well, the title of the video does say that they are things that people think are plotholes but aren't.

Again... Has no one ever heard of this thing we have in teh real world called "Hacking"? He did not actually physically put himself back into the Matrix... He simply hacked the Systems - Morpheus and the Crew for their Training etc... Use and "Offline version" of the Matrix - Clearly Cipher was hacking into the "Online Matrix" and created his Avatar to communicate with the Agents in their world without having to rely on actually physically being there! In fact, if you listen to his Dialogue He does hint that he is NOT Plugged in... As he asks to be reconnected! So there is a hint that he is NOT actually connected to the Matrix, He has Hacked a Backdoor in! Which then explains why no one saw him Jacking Himself - He never did! Of course this is me speculating... I don't know what the Directors were thinking - But when I watch Movies, I do look to reality to try and explain things that don't seem to have any logic to them in case there is a possible real world explanation - Hacking is a possible real world explanation! I mean, When you play a Console or PC game... Are you actually in teh game? NO, Of course not... You control and Avatar! That appears to be what Cipher did!

@@Phoenix2312 Quit the condescension will you? Just love it when someone asks a question and here you are "Are you in teh gaem?? Nooo." Except he's not saying that. He's talking about being reconnected to the main Matrix and being given wealth and power. His 'avatar' also acts very humanlike, eating steak and referring to what it tastes like. So I call bullshit on what you said.