I still say to this day that Disney dropped the ball on the John Carter marketing. That was a fun as hell movie.

I mean, Tron Legacy made $400 million off a $170 million budget. For a 2010 release, that's not terrible.

Unpopular opinion, I thought john carter was a good movie that just wasn't given a chance it deserved

In the spirit of Bronny James, you should have included After Earth. A perfect example of superstar talent trying to force his glaringly less talented and undeserving son into stardom with unearned opportunity.

When I went to the cinema and asked to see John Carter, for a second they thought I was asking to speak to someone like a member of staff or a manager

I expected you to include "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." When it came out it was endlessly hyped as the first movie shot entirely with green screen. It flopped, even though it wasn't that bad.

I actually liked John Carter, it had a good story potential

The mummy wasn’t the first one of that universe, that was the forgettable Dracula movie they had put out

Even before the slap, people are already tired of Will Smith. Now we have two? And the younger one is suppose to be the worse than the older one when in reality it's the opposite

For me I didn’t want to go watch The Mummy, because I thought they wanted to remake the mummy franchise and I just didn’t want to support replacing Brendan Fraser

Me: How many Robin Hood and King Arthur films you need to make before you stop trying? Movie studios: All of them.

Disney did Solo dirty though. They fired the two original directors, Phillip Lord and Chris Miller, more than halfway through filming, and brought in Ron Howard. Howard came in and did a huge amount of reshoots. I also remember reading an interview with Alden Ehrenreich saying that Howard was so dead set on him acting like Harrison Ford that he brought in an acting coach to work with and sit in on set with him. Alden said the entire experience was demeaning.

When Marvel published a John Carter comic book decades ago, they used the much more dramatic title "John Carter, Warlord of Mars". A movie title like that would have been more evocative and might have brought more people into the theaters. Even the Asylum mockbuster used the advertising "Based on the classic novel that inspired "Avatar"."

Tron and John Carter were good

I bought d-box tickets by mistake once, don't remember which movie but I remember walking out afterward with a sore neck and stiff muscles. Those seats threw us around like ragdolls

John Carter of Mars was supposed to be the dawn of a franchise. That didn't seem to workout very well. Not only did it flop but it basically ended the career of its lead actor. The Golden Compass series died at birth due to the studio gutting the story which had a very anti christianity theme in its source material. They feared the controversy this would cause and instead doomed the series by botching the delivery. M Night's avatar film really belongs here as well.

You talk about interactive gimmicks failing in theatres, which is fair. But what about Black Mirror's Bandersnatch? That was an interactive movie with multiple endings and was talked about for months. Highly recommended if people are looking for interactive "gimmicks" done successfully.

I watched Tron: Legacy in real d 3D and it was an amazing theater experience. I’ll never forgive audiences for letting it flop.

The Problem with the John Carter of Mars film was that over the years (The first book was published in 1911) all the things that made it special and original had been completely ripped off by other film and literary franchises, sometimes more than once. For example when Star Wars ripped off Dune (Frank Herbert actually said he could not use most of the plot from his first novel in David Lynches first verion because Star Wars had already done it), it got all the stuff Dune had ripped off from John Carter too. DC comics The Martian Manhunter took most of its world building from John Carter (Different coloured Martians with differnt powers and species) and worked it in to the DC Universe as a whole, Even Superman having powers on earth he did not have on Krypton, came from John Carter having powers on Mars he did not have on earth, because of the difference in Atmosphere and gravity. The first major Rip off was the first Flash Gordon newspaper cartoons and novelisation, then Movie serial adaptations, which basically just changed the name of the Lead character and his method of getting to Mars/Mongo. (Ironically Flash was himself ripped of by Crash Corrigan and the Undersea Kingdom only a year of so later) which was also highly influenced by the Buck Roger newspaper strip, which would itself become a film serial in time. So only bits of of the Novel "A princess of Mars" and "Moons of Mars" themuch longer newspaper serialised version the novel was edited from, made it's way in to the Disney film, though there had been a straight to video adaptation three years earlier actually called "A princess of Mars" which was much more true (as far as it could be on a tiny, TINY budget) to the spirit of the original novel and actually made a virtue in it's advertising that Star wars, Avatar, Flash Gordon, Superman and a half dozen other major Sci Fi franchises had stolen from the story it was adapting. (In japan it was actually releasd as Avatar on Mars)

I am sure i read that the Mummy failed as Cruise demanded rewrites to give him more screen time.

The sad thing is that John Carter and Solo were not bad movies at all. Both of them were pretty fun IMO.

The Mummy with Tom Cruise wasn’t an original movie. It was a reboot of previous highly successful Mummy films.

The only time I didn't mind D-Box was for a group 3D gaming experience. Tight, ten minutes or so of 8 people shooting up a haunted carnival, with the high point of the D-Box seating being a roller coaster, where I was quite frankly shocked at how immersive it was for that purpose, with just some solonoids tilting and jostling the seats, and careful use of air-flow to make you feel the cart had crested, and was accelerating down the track. Was fun for a tight experience like that, would happily do it again. Wouldn't want to experience it for much more than that at a stretch.

Tron Legacy is a movie that didn’t deserve to fail… but Mortal Engines should never of made it past the conversation point in where two people looked at the book and just said “nah”

1:37 technically it was Dracula untold 😅😅😅

I actually thought Solo was a pretty good movie!!

Is there even a huge fan base eagerly anticipating a mummy universe? They put a weird amount stakes on that given the lack of fan base

The reaction to Tron Legacy was pretty much the same as the initial reaction to Tron on it's release. Give it another 10 years and it will receive the acclaim the it deserves. Hopefully Tron Ares bombs on release because chances are that means they have done it right!

The problem with trying to do a King Arthur movie is that it will never get out of the shadow of coconuts, Trojan rabbits, the invincible black knight and knights that say Ni.

I don’t mind Solo at all. I actually liked the ending where he is forced to kill woody Harrelson’s character at the end. And he thought the train heist was quality.

MORTAL ENGINES could've been better if Peter Jackson had hired a more well-known director Someone who knows how make things engaging

Solo wasn't a bad film but I think two things that killed it was 1) the budget because they fired the directors and Ron Howard had to salvage the film and 2) it came out too soon after Rian Johnson's dumpster fire of a movie. It was, what, only six months between them? Talk about over saturation of your brand.

Or, how about cinemas and studios stop ripping us off and then maybe we'd go to these less than worthy titles but they'd still make their money back?

Gemini man I feel like was more of a vanity movie for Smith to showcase his younger self 😂

I liked Tron Legacy too but it didn't fail for 'being ahead of it's time' because it would fail today too. It failed because it had a lead actor nobody knew and the less than stellar CG Jeff Bridges made the film a bit of a laughing stock. Fix those 2 things and I think the movie could have been more successful back in 2010.

Disney knowingly sabotaged John Carter with an abysmal advertising effort that never even tried to market the film.

Watched D-Box for the first time in Korea for Rise of Skywalker. There were about 3 people in the theater. It was weird and jarring for the first half, though I was largely used to it by the end. Didn’t add a thing to the experience that I cared about

I enjoyed the John Carter movie.

Of course the “John Carter” series of books were acknowledged in the late 70s by George Lucas to be the inspiration for a certain franchise called “Star Wars”

Mr. Payback! I've been trying to remember the name of that movie for years! 😂

It’s not D-Box but Regal has this thing called 4DX that does basically the same thing as D-Box. I saw Fast X and a couple other movies in that format.

Hardcore Henry should be on the list. 1st person perspective through the whole movie. I enjoyed it, but it definitely didn’t do well.

Solo was good, it was the fact that it came out after the last Jedi. The last Jedi caused a lot of people to boycott the next star wars movie, and unfortunately it was Solo

Doesn't the commentary for #3 answer the previous 'studios expect audiences will turn up just because they recognise the title'?

Loved Zemekis's Beowulf. Still watch it very now nd thn.

One critism of Tron Legacy that bothered me how rge deaging looked fake. Hello, it took place in a virtual computer world it was not supposed to looked real. All of the characters who lived in the grid has that look if I remember

John Carter was filmed an hour away from where I lived and a ton of people from my hometown were casted as extras and I was too young to participate. I always took pride in that and liked it even more.

I'd argue Tron Legacy is better than the original after watching it a couple of times. Really didn't like it the first time around but it has grown on me.

The King Arthur movie was super freaking good though

I never understood the reasoning behind making Beowulf a CGI movie. Why not just use the actors playing the characters?

Coming from some who loves "Dracula untold", if it had been the success they wanted they would have called it the start of the dark universe

#5 There is only ONE great King Arthur movie.. Excalibur (1981)

So , I guess I’m the weird one. I liked The mummy , Mortal engines , Tron legacy and John Carter.

The reason that the mummy failed was because M night Shyamalan allowed Tom Cruise to rewrite and rewrite and rewrite the script so many times in order for him to be constantly in a scene. Shyamalan should have fired Tom Cruise and replace them with somebody a lot more temperamental.

Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino were both doing the universe thing WAY before Marvel came in and ruined the concept.

Beowolf was awesome, but yea the style was distracting.

Tron legacy and John Carter are great movies that deserve more love.

5:12 tron legacy 2020?

Is 5:13 a studio glitch or was this copy recorded four years ago?

Envy always trying to be diplomatic and optimistic about these folks who don't always have that energy.

Dark universe had so much potential

@10:00 Will Smith has not had star power in years. After Earth, anyone?

Beowolf was a insult on all levels. I still want that time back. The third Tron film not getting made because people were upset that the bad guys looked inhuman because of the deaging techniques is frustrating. Clu was made more monsterous because of it.

Did D-Box quite a few times before the theatre remodeled and got rid of them but the best usage to me was for the 1st person action movie "Hardcore Henry." Seeing that while being tossed around was INSANE!

Hey Hollywood! Read a book!

Saw Gemini Man at a pre screening probably close to a year before it was released. Unfinished CG so on, I was surprised it didn’t do well because we were very entertained and excited to see the finished film.

I liked Mortal Engines and John Carter. Same problem both films. They didn't work as single films. If they worked on getting a good film 1 then work on sequels

D-Box with Deadpool was fun.

i tried dbox once.. changed seat 20 minutes in

No kap, I STILL watch Beowulf. It’s a dope movie

Solo suffered some backlash from The Last Jedi. It had its faults for sure, but I wish it come out at a different time so we could’ve seen how it would’ve faired on its own.

The mistake with Gemini Man was not doing what they did in Looper. Have a younger, very similar looking actor to Will Smith wear prosthetics to make them look even more like a younger Will Smith. Might just be me and AVGN, practical effects will ALWAYS look better in theaters and on screen than CGI.

Tron Legacy underperforming was frustrating. Its by no means a perfect movie, but the common complaint about a lack of action just proved people just had no idea what the IP was about.

I don't ever remember a time, when anybody made a big deal about Beowolf. What year and day this movie came out.😮😮😮😢

Tron Legacy 's de-aging scenes weren't convincing back in the day.

Why no more outros?

Otherworld wasnt mentioned or harmony of the five frequencies, I saw that film and when I found out it was cancelled I searched why apparently a character that can absorb sadness isn't engaging, it was to me, also I'm sure that would be a successful anime, also I know about the tragic passing of the lead actress so don't say that to me

kinda disingenuous as Solo didn't change Star Wars forever, The Last Jedi did. The failure of Solo was a direct reaction to it.

Dark Universe could have been fine if they had made them with lesser known actors with smaller budgets. I think that's why the Invisible Man worked with Elisabeth Moss while the Mummy flopped with Tom Cruise & Russel Crowe. BTW: I actually liked the TC Mummy... it looks and sounds great in 4k/HDR/Dolby+ and it's just sort of a fun romp... but I can see why it flopped.

Why is nobody talking about the fact that these people said Tron: Legacy was a great movie when recently they said it was bad? Everyone complained about them saying that and now no one's talking about how they love it now?

Differences between the aims of Gemini Man and Multiplicity starring Michael Keaton?

Mortal engines was a good film

Will Here be on a future list? The stationary camera is a neat idea, but its little different than watching a play.

King Arthur: Legend of the Sword was fricken awesome and I’m bitter we never got anymore

Tron legacy was a success though. It wasn’t a HUGE hit but it wasn’t a flop

The only actual original movies on that list are Gemini Man and Mr Payback. Which suggests originality is overrated.

I tried D-Box once. It gave me a headache, a neckache, and nausea. It was slightly LESS enjoyable than sitting in an airplane seat with a kid behind you kicking your chair for the whole flight, while flying through turbulence.

I thought it was the 'actually Robin Hood' 'King Arthur' film when you brought up the name...

King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, was not that bad. It was a decent adaptation. One of the reasons why it didn't do so well was because of its release date, as it came out when one of the BIGGEST Marvel movies came out; also because Guy Ritchie movies are an acquired taste most of the time.

Top Gun: Maverick was a better movie in D-Box than out of it.

You know what sad about Tron. It was ahead of it's time twice!

Tron Legacy was technically not a flop. Did 400 million vs 170 budget. I liked the movie too.

10:30 Ang Lee's previous film Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk had already done 120fps before.

A long time ago, I read that there are only seven plots that all fiction is based on. Everything else is just a variation on one (or more) of those plots.

I saw Inside Out 2 n A Quiet Place: Day One both w/ D-Box seats. Was my first time using them too. I enjoyed both experiences. 😂👏

"Except maybe 2 fast 2 furious" my man meant to say tokyo drift but said a good'n smh

The Fast and the Furious movies have really lost touch with what the movies are suppose to be about. In my opinion, the first movie is the best and they get more stupid the further in the series. They go from regular criminal street racers in L.A just for them to end up as government agents/ superheroes. They even flew a car in space! Those movies are just dumb nowadays

Tron Legacy would’ve made an excellent silent film

I really liked Beowulf, Tron, and Mortal Engines.

What was "ahead of its time" about TRON Legacy? All I saw was a run of the mill uninspired CGI fest with a boring drawing by numbers story and the only thing about it making any waves being the soundtrack.