The x360 era was the height of the Xbox brand. They never recovered from E3 2013. It just took 11 years for everything unravel.

Games companies aiming for "live service" over "AAA singleplayer" games are burying the entire industry. Continuous profit from bare-bones, grindy trash, over meaningful one-time payment art, may be the final nail in the coffin.

Yeaaaah the XBOX brand is basically dead at this point. Microsoft clearly doesn't care about shipping a quality console or games. I can't see myself ever investing in anything Microsoft ever again.

Don Mattrick killed Xbox, Phil Spencer went all Weekend at Bernie’s with it.

I really just can't understand what the logic was that a VG company decided to focus on everything other than making VGs Imagine if Ben & Jerry's suddenly decided to focus on other things than ice-cream, letting the ice-cream division stagnate n drop in options, we'd think they lost their fucking minds but we gave Xbox a pass for 10 fucking years This is way past shame on them, n very much shame on us

Hey! SEGA 2.0. Remember when Sega was a console then slowly gave up and became a game developer? History seems to be repeating itself.

I really wanted an evil within 3 and a Ghostwire Tokyo sequel

Meanwhile, Nintendo is just chillin off to the side in their own world xD In all seriousness, bring back the old days when gaming was competitively friendly and not toxically greedy

The whole industry is tanking. Games are overpriced, too much gouging of the customers with loot boxes and other micro transactions. Now companies want to put ads into the games. It's insane. Half the games you have to buy an online subscription to even play. Greed is destroying so many industries in this world and its just going to continue until they run it completely into the ground.

Phil, if you're in trouble: blink twice and touch your nose at your next public appearance!

Being a fan of Xbox has been painful. I recently sold my PS5 because my account got hacked twice and I don’t trust their security and now this is happening 🤦🏽‍♂️

What is crazy is, I have been going back to my 360 games and they were more polished than the current games

For the amount of developers and resources they have the output has not been great on the whole. And when they do make a great game with hi fi rush they close the studio

We really are living in Dark times in gaming. ~Our Tech has advanced but making games has gone out the window. Bring back making games in a similar style as previous gen games but utilize modern day advancements. Game projects like that will cost less $, take less time to build. We drastically need an array of different unique game types to select from. Right now consoles are almost useless. Unless you play COD only 1 or 2 games come out. We hardly see the amount of games we used to see and the different types of games we used to see. We need games that harness art design. Designs that have proved to be timeless. Cell shaded, low poly effects, pre rendered backgrounds, 2D, 2.5D, creative 3D that's not trying to be hyper realistic. Inspiration from previous gens should not stop, just because new consoles have come out. Timeless games don't need hyper realistic graphics. Some of the best games have creative art styles such as Sly Cooper. Anytime i say this someone in the comments always says: "well we have indie games" but that's not my point. I wish the gaming industry would recalibrate their focus & start making games for consoles with all sorts of styles & designs. Just look at current Gen consoles Game Library's? It's NOTHING compared to the N64, PS1, Xbox, GameCube, dreamcast, 360, PS2, Sega Saturn, classic PC games, etc. Life would be amazing If game companies will start making games that are inspired by these previous gen designs. We shouldn't leave those unique aspects of gaming in the past. Hopefully the struggles of the modern triple AAA games will organically transition the gaming industry back towards a better direction. It's exhausting how long it's taking for most games to be made. Just for a lot of those games to end up being total let down projects anyways. It's crazy. Idk how these game companies have been able to keep getting away with this BS.

Take2 does the same thing with rockstar. How many rockstar sequels have we been asking for but all they do is GTA online.

They keep talking about Sony's $70 pricetag, yet Helldivers 2 was only $40 and was a success

Keep up the critical Xbox videos. It's about time someone held them accountable

Since 2013.

I patiently waited 10yrs on the promise that exclusive were coming Valuable lesson, ignore the words (they're always lies) focus on the actions Nintendo n PS really are where you go if you just want good, new games

You mean there is no reason to buy a console period - Get a PC and get both sony and ms exclusive - why get a console period...? Helldivers 2 was not an anomaly - Sony have said they will put the multiplayer/live service games on PC day 1... So expect it to happen more often...

I am so sad that any hope for an Evil Within 3 is gone now...srsly Microsoft should just stop taking part in the console market atp they are doing more bad than good outside of Gamepass

aw the little "ur smarter than me" "nah bro we're both smart" was great love that y'all manage to make even the news warm and conversational and feel like... like im at lunch with friends as a kid again talking about the latest games. anyway keep it up love whatculture

Yeesh, a 25 minute video for 5 minutes of content? You guys just kept talking in circles, repeating yourselves, one would say something and then the other would basically repeat it all over again agreeing with him... trying writing a script or at least using an outline.

They did a long time ago when Don Matrick revealed the xbox one. Lol.

Didn't Phil Spencer say just last year that if Game Pass didn't take off, then there probably wouldn't be an XBox brand by around 2027? To me, this just looks like them positioning the company to cut its losses and maximize their revenue based on the I.P.'s that they've acquired along the way.

Insert dog in burning house meme

I think the best thing Phil can do at the summer event is just to be honest around what is coming, if that be good or bad.

Now it's just a box with no 'x' in site

I am so speechless on what are they doing. I was about giving Xbox a chance of console with good gameplay with my cousins and now this.

I've criticised the guy on the left before (sorry never catch their names) but the last few vids they've both been awesome. I know my opinion doesn't matter too much but wanted to praise the energy n chat around the various topics. ❤

Hell yah for more xbox games on PS5, I'm excited for that!

To me this looks like Microsoft trying to squeeze every last dollar they can from the Xbox brand by porting over exclusive titles, then when this ultimately backfires and the profits plummet, they’ll just kill the Xbox console as a whole and focus on cloud gaming.

Damn I really hope Microsoft can turn Xbox around. Recently got GamePass and a Series X and love both the hardware and the service. The backwards compatibility on the Xbox especially is a killer feature that the PlayStation just doesn't have.

For the major titles like the call of duties, Timed exclusives are not really a bad idea. Putting the new titles out for sale for individual sale for a few months before putting them on subscriptions like PS Plus or game pass will be a good thing. There are millions of plarys that rush out to buy each new title in teh first 30 days as we have seen historically. Tjere will always be a segment of playrs taht need/want to wait for sales or something like gamepass due to teh individual price of titles. Myself included. I buy maybe 1or 2 full pricef games in a year and pick up others on sale when they better fit my budget.

They shouldn’t kill off Xbox! There making a similar mistake with Rare!

If ABK was that important, why haven’t Microsoft put WoW on Game Pass yet?

You don't have to replace parts on a console. The games are made to the machine instead of the machine being made for the game. One of the reasons I'm still on consoles. Heck I can't use my computer because I need to get a new processor among other things.

To me, the writing on the wall is that Xbox is not a hardware company anymore. Hell, it's not even a gaming company anymore. Sony is also circling the drain. After a lifelong Xbox user I'm sick of this situation and I'm Craigslisting my Series X. My PS5 will be following Craigslist at some point. I'll be using that cash to build my new gaming PC.

The CEO needs to be fired. The best chance of getting that 70B back is console exclusives. It's the decades old console success strategy. Just ask Nintendo how they are doing. What's gonna happen is gamers like me are just going to abandon their Xbox and just play on Playstation. That strategy is stupid.

This comes at a time I am about to get my new Xbox! Now I'm uncertain if I should?! I've not been a big PlayStation supporter for over a decade.

Short term gain, long term loss

Phil Spencer can't speak right now, he's being "teabagged" by Satya Nadella, it's tough to talk with someone's baws on ya gums.

Didn’t you guys have this same convo last week?

Not only do you get a better game if you wait, but you can usually get a cheaper and a better game if you wait.

Nintendo recovered from the Wii-U gen by making Mario Od and BOTW for the Switch. A console a lot of people were uneasy about. They also recovered from the disasterous 3DS launch by lowering the price and making excellent games and bundles. Then worked on the hardware. PlayStation had a rough go during 3's era. They recovered by releasing excellent games for 4 (Spider Man, God of War, The Last of Us etc) Scott and Josh are 100% correct. It is about the games, always has been. No ammount of corporate scheming replaces a quality product and player enjoyment. Where's Fable? Elder Scrolls 6? Gears of War? Etc etc. If they had released even one of these highly sought after titles, they would be in better shape. Passing the buck to a previous mistake is weak leadership.

Uncharted 4 and Horizon killed Xbox One. Damn, I think Phil is going to sunset Xbox hardware and announce the PS and Game Pass release dates for current and future platforms.

Selling games on other platforms is a great idea if you want to sell more copies, it's a terrible idea if you want to move more hardware.

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I don’t have gamepass or any other subscription service as it’s a concept that will never work for games and only works for movies. We’ve seen how it doesn’t work for big games or small games as starfield didn’t increase their numbers and the studio that made hi-fi rush is just gone now, if those two reasons don’t spell out how subscriptions don’t help these companies like they’ve stated they do than I don’t know what does. The thing Xbox just needed to do was make great games I know Phil doesn’t agree with that notion but it’s one of the reasons PlayStation is still in this business and it’s half the reason nintendo still exists as well. Lastly, I will always say this, the abk deal is the worst deal Xbox ever made for themselves they basically latched on a $70b leech hoping that it would stop the bleeding but in actuality they basically chopped off all of their limbs and are hoping that they will grow back.

I think we might be headed for a place where gaming options are going to be limited to PC and Nintendo. Sony will hang in there for another generation, I think, but the writing seems to be on the wall. PC is a better deal for publishers since they've already eliminated physical media from their eco system. It's possible Sony could turn things around if the inevitable PS6 is widely available at launch, the price point is more appealing than a mid-range gaming PC and they don't hold the software back by making it also work on the PS5. 11:56 Or the future might be mobile gaming.

I mean, if the brand doesn't pay off after all these years of excessively putting time and money into it, I'd scratch that too.

The one problem with the Helldivers 2 conversation is that Sony is not giving the breakdown on how many of the 12M sales were actually on PC. So far the PC sales of other PS ports have been 10% of the console sales or less. I tend to think Helldivers 2 is the same, but Sony needs talking point for areas of differentiation to satisfy board members, stockholders and public pundits to avoid stock dips on “The same old successful PlayStation news.” We’ll have to wait see, but of the 12M sold I suspect only roughly 1.2M are PC sales. The day and date on PC is really just to maximize multiplayer counts, but depending on the breakdown they may have needed for that. Keep in mind Sony hasn’t released a significant MP in years so the PlayStation console market was living in a first party drought of MP games so there are valid reasons for Helldivers 2 to be successful just on PS5 console where the majority of AA/AAA shooter games on PC are MP.

As a ps5 owner, this is all a win for me. I'm excited to get Starfield and a GoW HD Anthology

If Sony is thinking about launching games on PlayStation and PC at the same time. Don't make the PC gamers sign up or kn to PSN. Look what happened with helldivers. They're not going to put up with thay bullshit

Maybe we're all wrong. Maybe the developers Microsoft fired didn't have any new projects to work on, no new ideas at least.

I'm not sure what the problem is with releasing games on multiple platforms. So many games and series have benefited from this (the Witcher, GTA, Call of Duty, Red Dead, Minecraft, etc) it doesn't doom a console, because a console is made for games. Without the games and the devs and the people...the console and the brand die. That is the issue with Microsoft. Shutting down their studios. laying off the people trying to feed their familes. maybe if Hi-Fi Rush had been multi-plat the studio could have survivied and all those devs would still have jobs. I even hate the idea of timed exclusives. that's just strong arming a dev or publisher or both. It's almost like a giant paywall and it's anti-consumer. The world is getting too expensive and too exclusive and it's driving me nuts. Everyone wants their cut until you split a consumer's wallet 75 ways and then the consumer cuts ties with everything. Eventually you will hit a breaking point. You have spotify, apple music, youtube music, netflix, hulu, disney+, mgm+, hbo max, paramount+, peacock, apple tv..... entertainment is getting way too complicated, convulted, expensive and filled with ads, paywalls, and microtransactions. I kind of went off on a rant but I think it's the opposite. You guys are thinking short-term. Look at the bigger picture.

If I wait or buy the game on release date I’m paying the same price

& i was really looking forward to the evil within 3.

Long term they’ll make money off sharing Xbox exclusives, but they’ll stand to save more money by shrinking the budgets for games and releasing quality games. They have the means to recoup this but they have to make some internal shifts

I think the hellblade 2 argument about pc n console gamers was brought up cos it showed that if u release something day one on pc people will buy, I'm a console gamer and do believe there is a complete difference between console and pc and one of the main reasons is if your in the know even if a game comes out for console exclusive or not there are ports or emulators where u can get these games for free so if you want it day one or 2 or 3 on pc u can grab it however if you just introduce it there is a market for people just buying it and that will surely increase devolper revenue which I don't care what contracts they've signed they done it to be profitable to be able to continue making more games at a profit, that's the whole reason we had the leap in console game prices in the first place, and it will be interesting to see when gta launches because they could and probably will introduce and new price point and get away with it because it's gta and maybe over develpers will follow suit, maybe not to the same price point but still introduce a hike which is a double edge sword because you get more money from a product but potentially don't sell as many

This is all linked to the future of AAA games and big companies overspending buying dev studios. MS are probably regretting buying Bethesda etc and the only way of making their money back is making them mulriplatform.

I’ve never seen a real reason for console exclusive games, they should be accessible to everyone regardless of systems

PC's not disregarded, they're comfortable. They have their own exclusives too.

I will be trading my series X in now whilst it still has any value left....

My gamer mind likes this. My business mind thinks this is a dumb move long term

Their adapting to the changing climate. Personally I think it’s a great idea for them to publish their games on PlayStation and Switch .

This is AWESOME console war nonsennse just needs to end and everything needs to go multiplat. It is better all around for the customer on evfery single metric.

I had a greedy and generally negative impression of xbox since the first console. For some strange reason, that hasn't changed.

The thing that stings the most about the past week is the shuttering of Tango Gameworks. They really didn’t deserve what happened to them. Xbox execs better give a formal apology and do something to win the community back because I’m already in the process of moving to PS…

Good.

Even as someone who primarily uses a PC or PS5, I do not want X-Box to go away. It's bad for devs, it's bad for fans, it's bad for games.

XBOX acts like Activision blizzard does pump cash monthly for them... Candy crush, wow, cod

Scott/internet where do you get that Ifrit T-shirt? The news is irrelevant now I've seen that!

I have a Xbox series X and a ps5 I play the PlayStation more due to the fact my mates all say there’s no point them getting a Xbox due to the fact everything goes to Sony in time XD

Microsoft bought ABK for mobile & cod

The only reason I bought an xbox, was hoping they will release a fallout game during this generation. Otherwise it’s collecting dust :(

I waited 2 years for cyberpunk and I love it now

Nadella is no good

The “doesn’t matter how many 10/10 games we release, we can’t get that momentum back” mindset is completely BS. PlayStation went through the same thing when the PS3 was announced. The speaker said something along the lines of “you’re gonna want to have 2 or more jobs to afford a PS3.” And people were PISSED (rightfully so)! But PlayStation have made great games since and invested in new tech and now released games for PC. Takes effort. Also, I agree that only games make the success of your hardware, not your hardware’s features.

Sony never marketed hell divers 2 ? What are you guys talking about ? It was at one of there main conferences 💀the games big because it’s good that’s what happens when a games good word of mouth gets round and people buy the game. Balder gate 3 is another great example.

It’s kinda funny how when Xbox does something wrong it’s probably not Phil Spencer’s fault but when PlayStation does something wrong it was always Jim Ryan fault

All I'm seeing is Playstation owners should for sure be getting the next fallout and elder scrolls now, if they need money so bad, also with 2:35 Square Enix went to PS exclusive because the sales numbers were laughbly horrible, Xbox has always been DOA in Japan, and I don't think having any of the Square Enix IP's on Xbox will change anything, they need to remake 6 or 9, and then actually get people behind it instead of just going "Hey look, it's 7, won't you buy it"

Literally just sold my Series X, One & Series X games, 2tb hard drive and Starfield controller. To turn around and buy more 360, PS3 and Wii games. The 8th gen was so-so..this 9th gen has lacked a lot! 6th and 7th gen are the peak of gaming imo. Play my PS3, 360 and Wii more than my Swith and, the Series X. And tried to like PS5. But just didn't like it.

PC ports coming 6 months or whatever after isn't the issue. It's that they're almost always fucking broken

Why do people say we "need" Xbox so they can be competition to Playstation? As if Nintendo doesn't exist. Switch is slaughtering Xbox and Playstation. In terms of exclusives, its always been a race between Sony and Nintendo. Xbox isn't even a part of that equation.

The assessment that Xbox is in trouble because of the bigger fish at Microsoft is correct. However, I disagree with the rest. What continues to kill the Xbox brand is PC getting Xbox exclusives and this obsession with transforming games into a subscription service. GamePass is not an unknown that needs marketing, people by and large know what it is. The proposition of spending $299 on Series S to rent games didn't appeal to the mass market and that's why Series consoles are selling worse than the Xbox One, which had exclusives and didn't bet its identity on renting games. I want Xbox to be competitive with both Sony and Playstation, but its time to throw in the towel in the direction of renting games and Series S all digital hellscape.

X360 did almost beat PS3.... Ps3 was slightly better but that was xbox/ms most impressive console that had a large fanbase

Hopefully putting games on PlayStation works out for Microsoft. I am a PlayStation player and will definitely pick up Microsoft games on my PlayStation but the main reason I want them to succeed is if there is no competition PlayStation will suck again.

I am just jelly over that Ifrit shirt. Goddamn.

PC is definitely a rival to console. The rise of PC gaming coincide with the downfall of traditional home consoles.

Where are the games? The good ones... long single player or co-op campaigns, it's like they just don't care anymore. Even racing games have just become cumbersome and tired.

looks like Microsoft just wants us to look for Entertainment Elsewhere.

Out of all the games they could put on Playstation I'd want Halo and Gears Of War tbh

It’s absolutely ridiculous that these “industry leaders” think everyone wants to play the exact same games. Budgeting for more A and AA titles would allow for variety and creativity. I have zero interest in anything AAA because it’s all stuff I’ve done before. Been there done that gameplay.

I wanna own my games physical

Have you not seen Ghost Of Tushima Community Tab its all Sony Ponies complaining saying we PC players killed the PS5. I think Exclusivity of any kind is stupid release the game on every platform ao we can play where we want and just rake in all the money that results.

Xbox Series-X is the Dreamcast of Microsoft. A great machine that marked the end of a console brand.

Competition is good for gaming. If Xbox went the way of Sega, that'd be a very bad thing for all gamers.

Guys, he meant that forever after that comment people would be more skeptical of XBox. Yes, it is about the games, but think about the fail that was Halo: Infinite; the commentary wasn’t 343 proves again they don’t understand this IP, it was XBox doesn’t understand this IP. This really isn’t that hard

What if they just stopped making Xboxs and made games for pc and Playstation?