Whatever Happened To Sony TVs?

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Logically Answered

Logically Answered

Күн бұрын

Sony is one of the most iconic electronics makers in the world. From the Sony Walkman and TVs to cameras and the PlayStation, Sony is a dominant player in a wide array of sectors. One sector in which they’re not doing so well though is TVs. For the longest time, Sony was the most dominant TV maker in the world. In 2006, they lost this title to Samsung, and it’s only been downhill for Sony ever since. In fact, Samsung has now held that title for nearly 20 years and Sony has fallen all the way to 5th place in terms of market share. Currently, they only control a mere 5.7% of the market from what used to be 15% back in 2005. This video explores the various reasons why Sony lost their lead within the TV market and if the electronics giant will ever return to their former glory.
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@GaretZaugg
@GaretZaugg 12 күн бұрын
I bought an “open box” Sony TV on EBay for $2,200. It didn’t power on. Surprisingly, Sony customer service shipped me a $4,500 TV to replace it. I was so impressed by the customer service and quality, I bought a second for my game room and am now a Sony loyalist.
@barbaralyle6703
@barbaralyle6703 9 күн бұрын
That’s great but I bought a new 70 inch 3dtv from Sony. The panel failed in 6 months they shipped me a refurbished one after waiting 9 weeks that had several dead pixels. They said it was in the acceptable range. It did last almost 20 months then the screen went black. No further replacements. Oh and the best part they no longer make 3D TVs. No one does now and I was disappointed with their customer service. Glad they treated you fairly.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 4 күн бұрын
Sony fanboys just can't help their live but fanboyism is bad
@Nope_handlesaretrash
@Nope_handlesaretrash 8 сағат бұрын
I'll take shit that never happened for $500 Alex
@GaretZaugg
@GaretZaugg 7 сағат бұрын
@@Nope_handlesaretrash Want to bet $500 it did? I’ve got receipts. Or are you just a spineless troll?
@DK-ox7ze
@DK-ox7ze 12 күн бұрын
Actually Sony never lost the best picture quality crown. Even though it uses Samsung and LG panels, in terms of pure picture and audio quality, Sony is still the best. And now they are only targeting the premium end of the market, which makes sense given the massive shifts in the TV industry.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
True, but I would argue that Samsung and LG are close behind
@DK-ox7ze
@DK-ox7ze 12 күн бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered Yes they are close behind, but for the TV enthusiasts Sony is still the number one choice. But ofcourse it doesn't lead to massive sales. But I believe Sony still has pretty good brand value in the TV industry and anyone who can spend (irrespective of whether they are tv enthusiast or not) will likely consider Sony as the top choice.
@seriouslyfun9740
@seriouslyfun9740 12 күн бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered I dont think they are close. LG is like a lower quality barnd with overprice tag.
@davianoinglesias5030
@davianoinglesias5030 12 күн бұрын
​@@LogicallyAnsweredLG is nowhere close to Samsung or Sony when it comes to image quality
@thatsamazin-
@thatsamazin- 12 күн бұрын
@@davianoinglesias5030 The LG G4 is currently the best looking tv right now. In side by side comparisons, most are siding with G4 over A95L.
@MYDOESofficial
@MYDOESofficial 12 күн бұрын
I've been living in the Philippines for 6 years now, and I've noticed that most TVs here are from Chinese brands. Samsung and LG seem to be the popular choices for higher-end models. Interestingly, the only Sony product I see widely recognized is the PlayStation.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
PlayStation is likely Sony’s only surviving hero product
@DaleonM4
@DaleonM4 12 күн бұрын
Sony is just plain expensive. And Chinese brands give u just enough with android tv u don't need more.
@nuznikas
@nuznikas 12 күн бұрын
Sony onwn Hollywood and music industry Sony Bravia create streams movies higher bitrate than nowrybady does
@MrDragos360
@MrDragos360 12 күн бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered really ? Their Alpha profesional Mirrorless are the best, their TVs like A95L, X95L and the new Bravia 9 are the best TV on the market, their smartphones like Xperia 1 and 5 V are the best, their ANC headphones are the best. Is not really Sony problem that people can't afford high end devices. Especially in poor countries like South East Asia.
@MrDragos360
@MrDragos360 12 күн бұрын
@@DaleonM4 And ? Is not their problem you can't afford thier top end electronics. I preffer to save few months and get a top end Sony at 2000-5000 euro than a "just enough" Chinese brand for 500-1000 euro.
@Evil.Totoro
@Evil.Totoro 10 күн бұрын
I have had 3 different Sony flat screens ranging from 15 years old to 4. All work perfectly and I couldn’t be happier. Hope Sony is still making TVs when I need to upgrade years down the road.
@JoloNavarro
@JoloNavarro 12 күн бұрын
We still have our Sony Bravia TV that was bought a decade ago. Still works like a charm!
@confuseddesi80
@confuseddesi80 9 күн бұрын
Mine is almost 15 years old
@level80888
@level80888 6 күн бұрын
same here but smart functions suck
@metalheadzaki
@metalheadzaki 4 күн бұрын
mine has green strips showing up on the screen after almost a decade and before that the colors of the screen changes to grey and green, sony tv is just like any other brand from the looks of it
@level80888
@level80888 4 күн бұрын
@@metalheadzaki not a single symptom on mine. Works like new.
@metalheadzaki
@metalheadzaki 4 күн бұрын
@@level80888 lucky you
@PavelGramatikov
@PavelGramatikov 12 күн бұрын
Sony's high end TVs are still the best out there. They might be buying their panels from other manufacturers but their quality, tuning, and processing are above everyone else's.
@kabubagachugu7729
@kabubagachugu7729 12 күн бұрын
Nah man. You cannot outsource your panels and be the best out there. That honor falls to LG. The Chinese are catching up fast though.
@destructodisk9074
@destructodisk9074 12 күн бұрын
@kabubagachugu7729 Sure you can. You just ha e to use the best panels available and tune them better than the manufacturer. Support them with better hardware. Somy does this with TVs. Apple does it with monitors and phones. No one is doing color grading on a Samsung Laptop or tablet, because Samsung calibrates their displays to catch your eye on the sales floor with out of tune fake punchy colors. Professionals use Apple screens made by Samsung all day long though.
@MG-Alexandrovich
@MG-Alexandrovich 12 күн бұрын
Sony’s image motion processing and upscaling is really good.
@ruukinen
@ruukinen 12 күн бұрын
@@destructodisk9074 You don't get sold the best panels. Competitors are not reliable suppliers.
@destructodisk9074
@destructodisk9074 12 күн бұрын
@@ruukinen You can say that in theory... but in the real world you will almost never see professional studios with Samsung monitors, because Samsung doesn't build their displays to the highest ends of professionals work flows. They do however build the displays for competitors who's monitors are found in studios. And yes competitors like Samsung are a reliable supplier.. because of competition. They aren't the only ones making the displays for their competitors. There are many display manufacturers that make panels for companies like Apple. Not all of them are retail brands so you may have never even heard of them since they aren't available to buy directly, they only manufacture, not sell. Also in many cases professional monitor vendors will have displays built to their own specifications. Meaning even though it's manufactured by Samsung, you can't buy that display from Samsung, since Samsung doesn't hold the rights to it... they are just the assembly factory. And what happens if Samsung makes a subpar display for an order from a studio grade display vendor? The vendor drops the order, delays release, and finds another manufacturer that can meet the appropriate quality yield or has Samsung try again. Meaning Samsung eats a loss if they produce an unreliable product for their competitors. You can look it up, this has happened many times and is covered by tech news outlets. Many times a single studio grade monitor model will be produced by multiple competing manufacturers at the same time, and they are all expected to produce them same panel. If they can't keep up, they eat the loss and the other manufacturers fill in the gaps. LG on the other hand has been known to be able to do both, sell studio grade panels and manufacture them for competitors. it's mostly only Samsung in this regard that doesn't sell studio quality monitors with success. You can see the same thing with Samsung in CPU manufacturing. They themselves design and produce B tier CPUs. You can't buy a top end Samsung CPU. However their foundries produce the CPUs of many flagship processors... those processors are built to competitor's specifications because Samsung isn't competent enough to design a winner.
@lawball1727
@lawball1727 12 күн бұрын
I have 2 SONY TV that I bought in 2012. Both are still going strong, beautiful life like pictures. The build quality is excellent with Gorilla glass screen in all Black (KDL- NX720). Even when the TV is off, it looks like a work of art ...simply beautiful.
@good-tn9sr
@good-tn9sr 12 күн бұрын
get a room 🤮
@shivamguchhait
@shivamguchhait 12 күн бұрын
​Get a brain​@@good-tn9sr
@tonydarcy7475
@tonydarcy7475 12 күн бұрын
I bought a Sony TV in 2019 and it died after 3 years. They aren't the same quality they used to be.
@michigan1777
@michigan1777 12 күн бұрын
@@tonydarcy7475 it also depends on model. If you bought one of their lower end tvs, qc isn't as good.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
If u bought--LED in 2012. If u have one of those very high end LED, with Gloss STand, 1 senter spine. Thoes are --SHARP Aquos LED. At Begining of LED era. 100% 💯 of LEDS were produced by SHARP Aquos -in Japan. SONY LG Samsung did not have capacity produce LED> they went to SHARP asked to do whole sale at high price. Put their logos on it. U are likey have 2 SHARP tv with SONY LOGO.
@Technobitz
@Technobitz 12 күн бұрын
They decided that they would focus on the higher end tvs and they are known for their performance and processing
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
I would argue that Samsung and LG are on the same league now in the high end market, if not ahead even.
@yuval6091
@yuval6091 12 күн бұрын
​@@LogicallyAnswered that would be a wrong argument. Sony uses Samsung's QD-OLEDs for the past 2 generations, and they, alongside sonny's processing are considered the best in the market. As an owner of the LG C2 and C1, I can say that WebOS has gone from a top tier OS to a shitty one full of ads, and I would rather have Android over Tizen any day of the week.
@wnxdafriz
@wnxdafriz 12 күн бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered I'm going to be blunt, unless my family is just unlucky ---- Samsung monitors/tv's 3,000$ DLP tv (b4 the widespread LCD panels and plasma) died 1 month after the warranty expired 2 years... samsung had no parts to repair the tv, a 3000 dollar television back in 2002? or 2003? my brother and I had their 32 inch first QD LCD hi-refresh rate monitors... both of our monitors got serviced two times, we had arguments with their support where they kept claiming the monitors had only a one year warranty... the RMA was so high on those monitors that they changed their warranty on all their monitors to one year (this line when it first came out had a 3 year warranty like their competition) ... mine should have been serviced a third time and I had to take Samsung to small claims (live in the county seat.. and the courthouse is literally blocks from my house so it is quite easy to do) brother and parents had a samsung plasma tv, it was great when it worked but both developed issues just after 2 years (brother bought his 1 year after i got my dad one on clearance) meanwhile my high end sony lcd tv from 2018, still gets updated and has had zero issues in 6 years / friend bought one 3 years ago which is just an updated version of my model and it has had 0 issues, friends old plasma DLP monstrosity (not sure if its dlp... the weight of the thing and how large it is continues to be the reason it doesn't move ... i know the screen is supposed to be plasma but unsure if there is some odd CRT hybrid use... picture still holds up to OLEDs to this day and the tv is like 16 years old now) still no issues sony doesn't do the volume compared to other brands but I would be hard pressed to say they aren't a better buy for high end products because if you are going to spend 1000+ dollars on a tv you want to get it from a company that has a track record where the screens don't die after two years my family and i recommend to almost anyone that I wouldn't invest a lot of money in any samsung tv as its my opinion the parts they put in their high end models are no better than their low end... because the only samsung tv's i have seen last are mine and my parents 43 inch tv's that i got for less than 200 dollars on clearance but even then they behave weird sometimes where the screen will be all garbage lines flicker and stuff and the solution to fix it is just turning the thing off and on until it fixes itself.... but it continues to limp on apologies for the wall... but samsung really really really gets on my nerves when people try to say their high end is comparable to their competition but is 100 dollars cheaper.... 10 percent cheaper than your competition is nothing when their product easily lasts 5 times longer --- personally id take my chances with hisense or TCL now over samsung
@eegernades
@eegernades 12 күн бұрын
​@@LogicallyAnsweredthey aren't. Especially samsung. LG is considered budget. Sony's audio and motion processing is undisputed the best. LG, lesser extent samsung, suffers from stuttering on panning shots.
@user-zn9ke8um8s
@user-zn9ke8um8s 12 күн бұрын
​@@eegernadesLG G4 smokes the S90D and S95D go look for yourself. And it's not even QDOLED 😂😂
@PanteraRossa
@PanteraRossa 12 күн бұрын
I think Sony just saw they were getting out competed in TV and pivoted towards Cameras. For about 10 years now Sony has made incredible advancements in pro video applications and grew their market share tremendously.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
True, they are indeed killing it with cameras
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 11 күн бұрын
cameras and speakers are the only two markets they have left, they got destroyed in lap tops, TV's and smartphones and they will likely lose in gaming to Microsoft in the next 10 years
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 11 күн бұрын
cameras and speakers are the only two markets they have left, they got destroyed in lap tops, TV's and smartphones and they will likely lose in gaming to Microsoft in the next 10 years
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 10 күн бұрын
⁠@@dariomladenovski7047Sony has taken a step back from manufacturing of completed goods but they’ve still massive supplier of individual components and patents used in almost every electronic produced today and own more intellectually property/patents than almost any company. And over the past 20 years they’ve actually never done better.
@alpay389
@alpay389 10 күн бұрын
not as long there are playstation exclusive games.
@sohigh10
@sohigh10 12 күн бұрын
I still love my Sony Bravia OLED. The way they calibrated the panel makes it look so much nicer, more natural and impressive than all the fake sharpening, overblown highlights and ridiculous saturation commonly seen in other TV's in stores.
@bend8353
@bend8353 12 күн бұрын
You can set any TV like that. The display always is set to vivid
@eegernades
@eegernades 12 күн бұрын
It's because sony tvs are some of the best. This video is uninformed
@nimblegoat
@nimblegoat 12 күн бұрын
@@eegernades Flagships are very small part of market . otherwise Plasma would have beaten LCD for another 6 to 8 years . Stop thinking you and me are the market.I may get a G4 83" this year. Folks could get a 98" monster on special for $2000 in the USA a month or 2 ago , they laugh at puny A95L 77" for 2 to 3 times the price. Did you even watch the video. TCL will continue to grow , with big actually pretty good mini-LEDs . Even for flagships how many actually buy day one, most wait for BF or Easter day sales following year for big discounts , ie not much profit to be had if any. That's why Sony is a niche seller, they still want to compete with Bravia 3 and 5. They hope to sell lots of Bravia 7 as think people will pay a so so premium for better quality , reliability and processing . Bravia 8 now is just keep costs to miminium , make some sales . Bravia 9 is there hope to get the cream with little discounting. Look a for PS5 the new VR , Sony's sales falling , so looking to sell it for PCs as well
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
Trigered 😅
@havencat9337
@havencat9337 11 күн бұрын
yea...turn up saturation and you get just what Sony has...Cmon dude, grow up, Sony its gone now. upgrade and welcome to 21 century!
@mr.y.mysterious.video1
@mr.y.mysterious.video1 12 күн бұрын
Sony use Samsung oled panels also. In fact the best TV currently on sale is the Sony oled that uses a Samsung oled panels.
@personzorz
@personzorz 12 күн бұрын
Does that marketing job pay well?
@MrDragos360
@MrDragos360 12 күн бұрын
@@personzorz he tels the truth, lookt at A95L. It uses a 2nd gen QD-OLED from Sasmung and it looks better than on S95C, own Samsung TV
@fafillionaire
@fafillionaire 12 күн бұрын
@@MrDragos360 I have the A80, uses the Samsung S90 screen but with a way better CPU. I can't complain at all
@blackbelt2000
@blackbelt2000 12 күн бұрын
@@personzorz cry harder
@eegernades
@eegernades 12 күн бұрын
​@@personzorzhe aint lying. Look it up. Has one of the best motion processing on the market as well.
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 12 күн бұрын
I can tell difference between coke, Pepsi, Dr Pepper by smell alone 😂
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
Hahaha
@mankind8088
@mankind8088 12 күн бұрын
😭😂😂😭😂😂🤣😂😭😂😭
@vitaminprotein6814
@vitaminprotein6814 10 күн бұрын
I give myself an uppercut every time I drink Dr Pepper.
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 9 күн бұрын
@@vitaminprotein6814 really that’s all I drink. I mean it’s the oldest soda they got it right the first time.
@joeyp1927
@joeyp1927 11 күн бұрын
The problem with Sony goes across all their products, even their very best ones: they don't properly promote or distribute their products, and issue pointed out by the Wall Street Journal back in 2014 when Sony released an Xperia phone. It said that Sony was producing great phones, but "too bad no one knows about them...Sony needs to do something about distribution." One of the best mobile phone analysts, engineer Tomi Ahonen, reported that Sony's phones were ahead of Samsung and Apple's iPhone often by a year - but again, no one knew about them, saying that Sony should "hire an American marketing person." Same with their VAIO line of computers that even Steven Jobs praised, saying they used it as a model for their products. Point is, when Sony has a great product, be it a TV, phone, laptop, or reader, it does not promote the product or make it widely available. Even the WSJ saw this. It is almost as if they are embarrassed to make waves, so they make their products languish. The funny thing is that the leading handsets, iPhone and Galaxy, use Sony imaging technology, from the slow-mo features to the sharp megapixel chips.
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 9 күн бұрын
They suffered the same problem as Panasonic make great TVs that nobody knew or heard of until it was too late.
@joeyp1927
@joeyp1927 8 күн бұрын
@@barebarekun161 Yes, the Japanese do not properly promote their products because they're scared. The Koreans aren't afraid of this, so Samsung and LG took major market share from Panasonic, Sharp and Sony. Now, Sharp is owned by the Taiwanese.
@Throttle_Club
@Throttle_Club 12 күн бұрын
after 25 years i will still use the sony TVs
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
Still have one from 2009 as well :)
@NotSomethingIsNothing
@NotSomethingIsNothing 12 күн бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered have one from 2009, it's outdated and going to get a Samsung now, it's overpriced for the features.
@user-jm7kc4bm8m
@user-jm7kc4bm8m 12 күн бұрын
It’s Samsung OLED
@jonboy602
@jonboy602 12 күн бұрын
I will use all of the sony TVs
@huwdavies-tallon3305
@huwdavies-tallon3305 12 күн бұрын
Meto just bough a X80L and have another sony from 2010. That's why i stick to them make better long lasting TV's.
@lvproductionsinc9748
@lvproductionsinc9748 12 күн бұрын
I think people don’t realize that Sony isn’t just into TVs. it’s the largest sensor manufacturer in the world, largest music label out there, the number one professional camera and the #1 full frame consumer camera manufacturer, professional monitors for grading movies, and regarded as the number one tv brand in picture quality the last 5 years in a row won. Sony just doesn’t make everything out there, they stick to entertainment in home and the professional entertainment side and electronics used to create and capture the content people watch daily or listen to daily and more
@didamnesia3575
@didamnesia3575 12 күн бұрын
"I think a lot of people don't realize" = long winded opener for "this is my opinion"
@lvproductionsinc9748
@lvproductionsinc9748 12 күн бұрын
@@didamnesia3575 these are pure facts, not an opinion, you can research it. Idk if you have a personal feeling about things and felt the need to comment to troll, but have a good day.
@TVEXPERT.co.
@TVEXPERT.co. 11 күн бұрын
You hit the nails on the head with this one. Sony is solely focused on things which you can connect cognitively and emotionally.
@mmusimapheto2924
@mmusimapheto2924 11 күн бұрын
You’re right in that they are doing well in other areas. But to say they are No.1 in all those industries is misleading. You will have to state your sources….
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Sony changed their focus from TV to camera since 2000. If you asked your parent, Sony trinitron and Sony wega is the best tv until LCD tv became popular and bravia sucks until 2017
@jaseaquino
@jaseaquino 12 күн бұрын
Sony TVs seems more premium feel, despite I hate the operating system they're using (Android TV/Google TV) as it is notorious for being too painfully slow.
@rishi0299
@rishi0299 12 күн бұрын
The Sony A95L is still the best screen I have ever looked at.
@daviddavis6876
@daviddavis6876 12 күн бұрын
I agree.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 12 күн бұрын
That’s the one I chose over the slightly cheaper Samsung equivalent. Image looked a bit better, the Sony shop I bought it from sounded more competent regarding warranty service, and it uses the more open Google TV OS in case I want to install some app like a remote control preset button changer.
@huwdavies-tallon3305
@huwdavies-tallon3305 12 күн бұрын
Best on the market right now high end Sony's always are. Samsung is ahead mainly due to massive success of phone business giving it a huge budget advantage.
@michaelbeckerman7532
@michaelbeckerman7532 11 күн бұрын
It's the best screen that anyone has ever looked at.
@kitpong1777
@kitpong1777 10 күн бұрын
I have owned a series of Sony TVs over the last 35 years, from the first one I bought when I started my first job. When an old model got worn put or when it made sense to upgrade to new tech, I always ended up buying another Sony. Never regretted any of the purchases. Recently I went shopping for a new TV, after the old one had started to give trouble. It was quite a shock to see Sony relegated to the far corner of the showroom. The retailer obviously considered Sony one of the less desired models.
@mAdcaTzm4a1
@mAdcaTzm4a1 12 күн бұрын
Loved the sony bravia tv before and bought one. 2 years after the warranty expired, there were green lines present on the screen, eventually grew to unwatchable tv. Since then i vowed not to buy sony, switched to LG and never regretted
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
Do u have C9 CX C1 C2 C3? Or the B series?
@collinbeilke8231
@collinbeilke8231 12 күн бұрын
What I love about the Sony tv that I use is that the TV remote can be used for controlling the ps3, ps4, and ps5, all good blue ray players
@cubetikiller
@cubetikiller 12 күн бұрын
all new tv's i think have this feature as some hdmi passthrough thingy , i can too with samsung tv
@saviordream
@saviordream 12 күн бұрын
I bought a 50" Sony TV back in 2014 that I used as my gaming room TV until around 2020. My wife still uses it as the living room TV in our new house, while we got a 77" LG OLED TV when we bought the house back around 2020/21 that we have in our finished basement. Even though it's pretty old, the Sony is still going strong and since my wife basically just uses it for streaming content (she has a Roku hooked up to it as its own built-in apps are woefully outdated) she hasn't seen the need to upgrade, even though I've mentioned it to her multiple times.
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Sony tv before lockdown can withstand long lifetime. But if you follow Sony group, Sony quality already plummeted since lockdown until today. Recently sony introduce a new Line up tv anda i hope it's not bad quality as covid era
@williamgo9957
@williamgo9957 11 күн бұрын
I HAVE been obsessed with display technology since 1999 when I took my first flat-screen CRT TV (the Wega, 29"). Since then I owned a Sony CRT 7-inch projector, 40 DLP/LCD projectors (including the Marantz 11S2/15S1/12S4, Optoma 8600, Infocus IN83, etc.), 7 OLED TV's (only one Samsung, a 77"), a 70" Sharp LCD, 6 Plasma TVs, 5 Dell Ultrashap monitor, an Apple iMac 5K, 6 Sony RX100 cameras and 2004 Sony digital camera with a Carl Zeiss lens that at that time produces the most breathtaking digital image - but at a mere 4 megapixels. My fervor for display has not waned as is my preference for Sony, but lately as my finances has gone into dearth and the world economy being what it is now (which cannot reversed the economic damage/hardships that the covid epidemic has brought, as well as the invasion of Ukraine which brought so many disasters on the world economy that I myself cannot quantify, the only solution to it being that Putin should be killed in the most brutal manner to be hastened to hell) -- I lament that Sony's TV pricing in my land, The Philippines, is so disconnected from the financial pulse point of Filipinos. For a 77" S95C Samsung OLED, you could buy it for P125,000 from a TV wholesaler (roughly $2,100 without any tax levy) but Sony sells a similar size (with the same LG panel) for P222,000 ($3,900). How in the world can a price disparity be this great, is Sony processing that specialized (is it even better than a HQV-Teranex/Realta, of long ago?) and stands as state of the art video processing platform? In my heart I wanted to go Sony all the way but hard realities ties my hands, hence I had to settle for a Samsung (yet even with its $2,100 price tag I still have to take out a bank loan just to be able to pay it within six months). Clearly Sony or at least Sony Philippines, couldn't see the handwriting on the wall, the financial woes for billions of folks all around the world will obliterate Sony TVs' sale, and the most regretful thing is that Sony won't marked them down in any meaningful value but adheres obstinately to their pricing scheme. What leads me also to think twice about Sony now is the failure of their OLED TV, two of them failed after two years like it was a planned obsolescence or terminal failure. And the failure too of two RX100 cameras (one got deemed unusable when a very subtle sound of an "explosion" took place inside the camera). After those, there's nothing anymore sacred or a fanboy choice for me, I'll go where what I can only afford could get me....
@L33tSkE3t
@L33tSkE3t 12 күн бұрын
My dad purchased a 77in SONY Bravia OLED TV a few years ago. I can’t remember which model exactly, maybe the A80J but, it is a great Panel capable of over 745 nits peak brightness which is pretty good for an OLED. I have a 65in SAMSUNG QN90A QLED TV with full array local dimming capable of about 1800 nits peak brightness with 792 local dimming zones and although there is some light bloom / haloing, it is really only noticeable with white text on black backgrounds and it really is the best of both worlds of the brightness of an LED and contrast of an OLED, without the currently high cost of QD-OLED Displays. I currently won’t purchase a Chinese TV due to privacy and quality concerns and although the Panels in Hisense and TCL TVs are good, the SoCs they utilize are a bit lacking, so features like a smooth UI experience as well as features like upscaling and image processing can be less than ideal. They also seem to have shorter lifespans than SONY, SAMSUNG and LG TVs. A TV is about more than just the panel technology but, things like the SoC and how capable it is at image processing and just delivering a good user experience in general and although I’m sure people are purchasing a lot of low to mid budget TVs from Chinese brands, I still feel as though the Japanese and Korean brands make the best all around TVs and Displays right now.
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 10 күн бұрын
Sony x95 and the future bravia 7 & 9 models w/ miniLED are where its @. Imo OLED doesnt sell it for me, but MiniLED w/ brightness makes a lot more sense esp w/ Sony's color science and motion processing.
@3Cr15w311
@3Cr15w311 12 күн бұрын
Sony's quality control went down in the 90s and early 2000s. I had a number of Sony products with problems (two identical model relatively high end cassette decks that ran at audibly different speeds (3-4 percent difference), a Sony digital camera that failed shortly after 3 years of owning it, and worst of all, a 57 inch HDTV rear projection set that developed the flickering brightness problem (which many did around 2002). Because of these problems, I stayed away from Sony after 2002 and I think the quality control issues with their products helped former customers to avoid the brand in the future.
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Sony brqvia tv also got crap quality since 2020. I see plenty of people resell their tv after warrranty ended
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 11 күн бұрын
This is just false 2024
@drew3030
@drew3030 10 күн бұрын
It's wrong to jump from anecdotal evidence (your few instances of personal experiences) to a general inference about the population ("I think the quality control issues with their products helped former customers to avoid the brand in the future"). You would only have to browse through the comments here and will find and least 100 positive about Sony quality for every negative. Actually yours was the only negative I found but I'm sure there could be more.
@evan
@evan 12 күн бұрын
I absolutely love my Sony X90J! Honestly the best quality tv I’ve ever had. Best TV at the price without going into microLED or OLED. Well there’s updated ones now but yeah
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 7 күн бұрын
Do you mean MiniLED? You can find some of those in the price range of OLED or even less money. MicroLED TVs on the other hand, are still around $100,000 and I think still at a minimum of about 80-90" in size. I think Samsung has the smallest microLED TV available and that's 89" though they showed a 76" one last year. You can find smaller microLED displays in certain luxury vehicles but of course those vehicles are also $100,000+. I've been waiting for microLED for a couple years now and we'll have to wait before they get to the price range OLEDs are currently in. It's a completely different technology and much more expensive manufacturing process that OLED or miniLED right now.
@haakonht
@haakonht 12 күн бұрын
Would love to get a Sony OLED, but it's not worth the 30-40% premium over LG when picture quality is like 5% better at most.
@rocketPower047
@rocketPower047 12 күн бұрын
Dude, how do you pump out so much content??? I hope you're not burning out or you're getting help. It's great stuff!
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
On the grind hahaha /)
@destructodisk9074
@destructodisk9074 12 күн бұрын
@LogicallyAnswered future CEO right here.
@noahflare6825
@noahflare6825 12 күн бұрын
I wish SONY executives watch this video. Their pricing is so out of touch with market reality. I have bought TCL TVs, washing machine, and airconditioner. While they dont have fancy features, they get the job done without being expensive. Quality is good as I have them for about 4-5 years now and they are still working fine. With consumers seeing they can have reliable goods on cheaper brands, it does not make sense to buy higher priced brands, especially in this economy.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
I love your domment about SONY OUT of Touch. I cant still believe BEST buy still has 2022 SONY X85K-- Edge Lit TV on the WALL under x93L on display Yeah edge lit 2010 tech
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 12 күн бұрын
X85k isn't edge lit. It has a backlight for direct lighting and it's a qled tv, Sony calls it triluminos
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 11 күн бұрын
Its cause they make the best though, ironically when it comes to TVs TCL & Hisense have the best features but only on paper. They dont do everything else but they do a lot of things but they do a ton of cost cutting. My Hisense q8k flagship shipped in a flimsy box w/ almost no padding i was concerned for damage when i received it, whereas my Sony x900h was shipped in a box that felt robust and def could have tanked shipment bumps. The other thing is that while my Hisense q8k is bright as hell but its exhausting to look at because the colors are all over the place and the brightness processing is really poor leading to weird color gradients and blooming. Whereas my x900H looks really natural and i can sit in front of it forever, images look like they move really organically. Sony does image processing and color calibration better than anyone else and that what you pay for out of the box.
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 11 күн бұрын
@@ubacow7109 even in terms of features i personally think sony has pretty good lineup of features not offered by others, remote control finder, google assistant, auto picture settings adjuster, voice zoom function to make the dialog clear without raising volume or are not a native speaker but enjoy english movies, it only works with english but still works fantastic, raised shadow details, it will automatically raise shadow colors so the areas that are too dark would be visible and they have the best motion software to remove judder and motion blur and the best upscaling software when you're watching 1080 or 720p content like on youtube or cable which would not look good otherwise, other brands can't get their processing to work with youtube, And special mode for netflix and amazon prime
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 11 күн бұрын
@@ubacow7109 hey dude good for getting U8K. MOST ppl even GURUS they get Hisense to test, they do NOT how to set it up. They are using OLED n 1 trick poney to adjust LED. Its like using Cookig method for Greek to cooking Chinese. I can tell u friend ppl like ME n Quatum tv (HE has Hisense U8 at home he actually USE it till this date) . We know how to set it up. How to make it not blinding X900H is a great tv. And it is yes -680 Peak brighness. Its A very Dim tv its good for its time. In Theater at movie watching I MAX. Its dim because its PROJECTION . Most projection lamps are very dim watch in dark room. But if they BOOST brighness. They look PLAIN. So if projector ADD INSANE color VOLUME. EVERYTHING come ALIVE. U DO NOT even need to worry about Black. The IMAX moive none of black is even black. If u have U8K day time mid day. If by window. Open the curtains, if the backlight is so high at 70-80s. All u have to do is up the “COLOR” (Density) to 75-80s. BOOM. 💥 come alive. It will look vibrant 3D solid object. So remember any time when it looks washed out, its like projector with the COLOR tint that is too thin. It needs DENSER color . Dont worry black level as much. If those cable tv news etc “brightest white is too bright” then turn the “CONTRAST” down. If “Brightness” is up (it ups entire panel including peak brightness), color up n rich. But turn the (brightnest white down) u are good. Most ppl focus on Black Black black. They dont remember the Contrast is for (d brightest peak brighness) , the COLOR -Density makes things 3D. Solid visual vs a Tint. Not black. Before I bought Hisense. I read online Reviews on Chinese site. The Girls 👧🏻 bought Hisense flagship were giving heads ups lol . Saying “1 takes a couple weeks for eyes to Break in. 2 takes like 2-4 weeks to get used to tweak the tv. But 1 month later, u CAN never go back. N dont worry about initial annoyance. A few weeks in u can weak the tv on the fly in a few seconds for any show. SOOO EASY”.
@iceflower7004
@iceflower7004 12 күн бұрын
We bought a Sony tv recently, and it’s amazing. It was only slightly cheaper than entry level oleds, but it’s super bright and there is very little blooming. We are very happy with our purchase. We could have bought a Hisense, but those are notorious for breaking after a few years
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
Unfortunately if now i can tell u ppl work at Bestbuy has been exposing that Bestbuy takes SONY bribe. N makes employee tell everyone that Hisenese has qualiy issues. 😮
@anddo24
@anddo24 10 күн бұрын
Sony is still the gold standard in terms of high-end, picture quality and processing. The price of Sony TVs puts them out of the range for most consumers. The average person cares more about size, as previously noted. It's why the average Joe will buy a 100" TCL over a 75-85" Sony, LG or Samsung. The price and size difference are why TCL and Hisense are on the rise. I purchased my mother a 55" Hisense Mini-Led TV last year for under $600. The picture quality, brightness are all more than adequate. But I could tell the areas it was lacking. I'll continue to go Sony until they exit the market. The picture quality and industry leading innovations; bravely putting out a flagship that is not an OLED in 2024, is why Sony is still relevant.
@RFGSwiss
@RFGSwiss 12 күн бұрын
Sony had trinitron tubes. Man, they were durable and sharp. They had superior technology but failed to adapt to lcd. From there it was all down hill.
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild 12 күн бұрын
I still own 2 Trintrons. They still work amazingly after more than 20 years. I should go knock wood though, so as to not tempt fate.
@RFGSwiss
@RFGSwiss 12 күн бұрын
@@NinjaRunningWild the tubes will work another 20. maybe some of the electronics will deplete over time. capacitors an mainly solder joints in the highvoltage part of the mainboard (very quick fix if handled asap).
@cjeelde
@cjeelde 12 күн бұрын
Oh yeah Trinitron DESTROYED the competition! All other TVs were crap! Totally garbage! There's a good reason why Apple used Sony Trinitron for a long while for most of their CRT displays for their Macs. Some displays were not Trinitron, for example the display for the first Mac 128k and the successors and iMac G3. I grew up with some Sony Trinitrons and everytime I saw non-Trinitron at friends I thought for myself "whyyyyy did they buy this piece of crap when there's Trinitron models in the stores???" 😇
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 11 күн бұрын
They've had the best LCD TVs on the market for years. Its not that they couldn't adapt to LCD. Though you could argue they sort of abandoned the low end market that most people are buying.
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
​@@Erowens98Sony never have good LCD TV, i remember when they introduce bravia in 2005, they look crap compare to Samsung. Thats where Panasonic with plasma tv became huge success from 2005 to 2012
@gavriloking5637
@gavriloking5637 12 күн бұрын
I switched from LG to Sony when a single diode strip was damaged and created a single diode line across the screen but LG's quoted repair price was 90% the original cost of that TV. With such a poor attitude towards repair costs, I went to Sony. I owned that LG (2017) for only 6 years as well so we'll see how long the Sony goes for but from the comments it seems that most people say the quality is top notch.
@user-sd3nn6qd6c
@user-sd3nn6qd6c 12 күн бұрын
I want to say thank you to the guy in the comments who recommended Eledator to me. You've been very helpful. Thank you!
@Hermit-Crab
@Hermit-Crab 10 күн бұрын
Sony Bravia was the GOLD standard in TV. The key word is WAS.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 10 күн бұрын
🎉🙌🏼
@Paulie8K
@Paulie8K 12 күн бұрын
So my gf is a big fan of Sony and we upgraded our old TCL 42" 4K tv to a Sony Bravia 65" 4K tv for our living room. Huge upgrade but in all fairness, the TCL was a $270 entry level model from 4 years ago and the Sony is a $1300 mid-range tv. We also own an LG B2 in our bedroom which I actually prefer picture quality wise as those deep blacks are incredible in low light. There is fierce competition in the TV market which is ultimately great for us consumers.
@crimsonninja5090
@crimsonninja5090 12 күн бұрын
You could buy a Sony OLED to compare against the B2 OLED. To be fair, Sony wouldn't be making OLEDs as its flagship from this year on, and are moving to miniLED. But still, the picture quality of Sony's OLED TVs are undeniable. They are still very much at the top end of the spectrum. The main downside is the cost.
@Paulie8K
@Paulie8K 12 күн бұрын
Actually, my gf got her parents the OLED version of the Bravia that we have just a few months ago to upgrade their 10 year old Sony TV (her and her family are huge Sony fans). It's definitely a step up from the "Full Array" model that we have. We'll probably hold off on any upgrades for now as our LG B2 is less than two years old and our Sony Bravia is only 6 months old. I'm definitely getting OLED or mini LED for any future tv moving forward. I'm spoiled by OLED. I wanted the C3 but she insisted on our Sony.
@Henry_Jr_Watsson
@Henry_Jr_Watsson 12 күн бұрын
@@Paulie8K Personally, I would go for a TCL miniled. OLED-like contrast, but with much higher peak brightness. And all that, with no worry about tv lifespan of the TV as that is the case with ALL oled TVs.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
@@Paulie8KI know AT LEAST 2 PPL with B3 or C3. 1 bought C3 returned for U8K. Another guy bought X90L. Blooming too bad, returned for 75” U8K. N another has 65” C3 n 75’ u8k. He end up bring C3 upstairs instead cuz him n his wife both prefer U8K. The hype is real dude. I mean ppl hear mix signals. U have to see it to believe it. Its like Tesla, when a lot of ppl be rating it. D rest are quietly buying them , soo nice.
@lutzfilor8253
@lutzfilor8253 10 күн бұрын
Working in TVs in America we lost all tv manufacturing in America. All I learned the moment one stops to offer more features then what the market reasonably would need - you have already lost the battle as the market requires new features year after year. Yes cost is the driver. The cheapest display technology will dominate.
@wmalden
@wmalden 9 күн бұрын
My “daily driver “ is a 1998 Mitsubishi 32” CRT TV. Still works perfectly.
@jamesmisener3006
@jamesmisener3006 12 күн бұрын
We enjoy our Samsung Plasma TV for the picture quality. 10 years old now. Great channel by the way. Cheers 🇨🇦
@blackbelt2000
@blackbelt2000 12 күн бұрын
plasma?!? dang. Brings back memories.
@divyanshbhutra5071
@divyanshbhutra5071 12 күн бұрын
I live in India, and back in early 2010s, good be considered affluent if you had a Bravia. For the past 6-7 years, this status has slowly shifted completely to Samsung TVs.
@anand.chaudhari
@anand.chaudhari 10 күн бұрын
You’ll still be considered affluent if you own a Bravia mere bhai. Sony ka naam aaj bhi chalta hai apne yahan. Although Samsung TVs are better now
@divyanshbhutra5071
@divyanshbhutra5071 10 күн бұрын
@@anand.chaudhari Not that much. People know Sony is no longer the quality king. Most people consider Sony as overpriced TV for people who love splurging on old brand names.
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 10 күн бұрын
Its chause theyre cheaper but they look terrible, id rather go TCL/Hisense than samsung
@phoenix5054
@phoenix5054 10 күн бұрын
Japanese electronics companies completely misread the 2000/10s trends. They lost the internet, streaming VS. dvd/blu ray, TVs, smartphones, cameras, appliances, etc. We'll see if they lose the car and gaming market.
@rafbarkway5280
@rafbarkway5280 10 күн бұрын
Sony tried to be clever, they made a lot of TV's with NO heatsink on the main vision processor. They cooked up the processor in less than a year, built in redundancy, and expected no one would notice. Nice try sony. (Engineering comment).
@InnerFire6213
@InnerFire6213 11 күн бұрын
This channel is all about sensationalism. Always 'this brand is dead, that brand is doomed, this new tech is taking over' 😂
@animaze8043
@animaze8043 12 күн бұрын
Its actually simple. They focussed on high-end TVs, but seems to forget they have competition from other brands like LG. Their OLED tv in 55" was/is more expensive than the 65" LG offering (G-series, not the cheaper C-series). Similarly, when i looked in stores, noone had any model on display. Lastly, even as the cycle was nearing its end, the gap between the LG and Sony offering had widened. Sony was practically still at launch price, LG G-series had a tasty discount to move inventory before next model.
@evanrhildreth
@evanrhildreth 11 күн бұрын
It goes back even further. Sony was caught off guard by flat panel tvs - they were still pushing their Trinitron CRTs when other manufacturers released their first flat panel plasma and LCD tvs. Without the ability to manufacture their own panels, in 2004 Sony made a deal with Samsung to supply LCD panels for Sony tvs, under a joint venture called "S-LCD", but it was 100% Samsung panels and Samsung profits. This meant Sony tvs were more expensive than the Samsung tvs with the identical panels. In 2007 Sony showed off an OLED tv, the XEL-1, even placing it front on center in Sony stores. They never followed it up, and the whole thing felt like a publicity stunt to say "don't buy an LCD or plasma tv yet, wait for OLED". In 2011, Sony broke off their deal with Samsung, and briefly sourced panels from LG and Sharp, before sourcing from Chinese manufacturers. So now, Sony tvs have panels that come off the same Chinese assembly lines as HiSense and TCL. At times, Sony produced their own upscaler processors, or their own backlights, to try to differenciate themselves from cheaper tvs that shared the same panels. But without panels of their own, Sony could never reproduce the following they once commanded for their CRTs.
@mmusimapheto2924
@mmusimapheto2924 11 күн бұрын
They’re not getting panels from LG anymore?
@dani3po
@dani3po 12 күн бұрын
Sony used to be synonymous with an extra quality, "premium" product, and still is for older people. But in 2024 it's hard to justify the high prices of their TVs when they don't offer more quality, so it's logical that they sell so little. Something similar has been happening for some time with their phones. They are very expensive and offer nothing over their competitors.
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 12 күн бұрын
They don't offer a headphone jack, tool less microSD card slot and professional camera settings! Oh wait, they do...
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 11 күн бұрын
They are still top end when it comes to quality. That seems to be the niche they are targeting
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 11 күн бұрын
They do offer the best image processing movement and colors are litterally the best out of the box in all objective & subjectve benchmarks they always score higher than the rest.
@anand.chaudhari
@anand.chaudhari 10 күн бұрын
@@ubacow7109but still do they justify the price tag? I don’t think so
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 10 күн бұрын
@@anand.chaudhari I do, when you look at a sony flagship you can look at it for hours and its the most cinematic picture possible. I own a flagship Hisense Q8K and flagship Sony x900H and the picture quality is so much better on my x900H. The Q8k has a ton of features but the image just isnt natural. When you get used to proper color accuracy and motion processing everything else looks wrong. Going back to my hisense, everything looks fatiguing almost and it feels like im watching a mall tv display rather than a proper home theater.
@unlap9377
@unlap9377 12 күн бұрын
All I know is that BestBuy sales people loved telling my grandparents to buy the most expensive Sony OLED TVs for a decade and each one burned out dead or unwatchable. Now they're enjoying normal LCDs since they couldn't tell the difference anyway with normal cable television with 0 quality loss.
@frederickclause2694
@frederickclause2694 12 күн бұрын
I can relate to that. I'm an old guy and I can't really tell the difference between 1080 and 4k.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
Yeah i AM waiting for Hisense U8N. It just launched this week. INSANE stuff. 2000-- local dimming zone for 65” U8N. For x90L --58 local dimming zone . Lmao. N they still try to promote that!
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 11 күн бұрын
I mean that happens w/ all OLEDs, you can get Sony LED / MiniLED tvs you know....
@CokeSpiller
@CokeSpiller 12 күн бұрын
Great vid as usual!!!
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
Thank you Mayank!
@radspeed113
@radspeed113 7 күн бұрын
Sony hasn't gone anywhere, they just haven't sacrificed quality and are on top because of it. Sony is light years ahead in image processing The best OLED TV is a Sony The best LED TV is a Sony The best mini LED is a Sony Some of the best audio in the industry is a Sony. They won't go anywhere like Panasonic and sharp did, because Sony is the company making the movies themselves, and making all of the equipment movies are made on. That's a benefit no other company has
@balpreetsingh6834
@balpreetsingh6834 12 күн бұрын
Great video as always
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
Thank you as always Balpreet!
@fluidefluide1128
@fluidefluide1128 12 күн бұрын
A well thought-out analysis.
@driller_e8098
@driller_e8098 12 күн бұрын
I was shopping for new TV 15 years ago, when I had movies on my Harddrive , I said to the guy I need a TV that will play from USB. Sold me top end Sony. Got home, didn’t work due to formatting and copyright problems, went back and swapped for LG and it worked perfect and have only bought LG ever since
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
If i'm not wrong Sony only use FAT32 until they adopt Android TV and their DHCP is very strict. Other brand doesn't have this issues
@ArthasProVEVO
@ArthasProVEVO 11 күн бұрын
I bought a 4K 42 inch TCL TV 8-9 years back @ $550 or so , and it's still woking fine without any issues , Never repaired , but not to forget that my older 15 year old LG 720p TV still looks great because of LG's Screen quality
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 11 күн бұрын
Hey u must have TCL Roku tv. So they are talking about HIsense TCL. They are mostly taking about their--extremely high END flagship GOOGLE OS tv. They tag team have been CRUSHING SONY flagship LED performance surpassing OLED last 4-5 yrs. No joke. My family think SONY’s flagship LEDS are inferior TVs last many years now. In case ppl only know Hisense tCL about their Roku. Their high end Mini LED U8K U8n(just launch last week) INSANE. Then UX this year. TCL also has QM8. My 2020 55” 2021 65” Hisense tv together cost me $2500 in Canada. If buying from EU. They would costed like $3500 for those 2 smaller panels. No joke if u are in USA. When u get the next UPGRADE. U will be JAW Dropping seeing their flagship. They had those superior tv outside of USA for decade. They just never made to USA till last 5 yrs. So now they are selling VERY good stuff in ROKU n Elite level like insane value SONY LG cant compete. Last year SONY for the first time of 30 yrs did NOT show up at CES Las Vegas Consumer Eletronic show. . The SONY ppl are in RAGE. Cuz Hisense extreme high end tv launch. 2024 CES SONY did not show up again. Cuz they are like “this is walk of shame” so they only promote thru youtubers, tech journalist now. They do youtube launch instead . So ppl dont see them first hand, but u get to see the youtube Influncers pitch. It’s getting so sketchy n pitty. .
@stevemccormick4938
@stevemccormick4938 11 күн бұрын
May also be that sony decided to install a root kit virus on every computer that played their digital assets. Since that event I've never considered a sony product.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 11 күн бұрын
Yeah remember SONY got hacked ransomware!!!! 😮 skechy as hell.
@Controllerhead
@Controllerhead 11 күн бұрын
Surprised you didn't really mention Sharp, which was at one time the Aquos was the best rated TV on the market. They invested heavily into making their own panels very early, however, other companies basically outpriced them. It's still a great looking 1080p TV all of these years later! ...also "late 1900s" oh god lol 💀💀💀💀
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Sharp picture quality is great in mid to late 2000's but they got serious financial problem and got sold to Foxconn in 2015
@katycatjulius
@katycatjulius 12 күн бұрын
I have a almost 10 years old (since buying it in 2015) sony tv, i use it a lot and it still works perfectly just as good as when i first got it
@wololocute
@wololocute 12 күн бұрын
Sony is costlier because its components are tested for low failure rate like apple. Chinese mobile ad tv can be used at max 3 years without problem.
@destructodisk9074
@destructodisk9074 12 күн бұрын
This. People are so excited to fill their houses with $300 TVs these days. They are fine with throwing them away after they break in 2 years and buying the latest ewaste tech of the day. Buying a TV used to be a really big deal, and that TV meant something to family and was a part of the home. You only wanted something of quality be the center piece of your entertainment that could last a decade and define the period. Now they are just on the grocery shopping list.
@huwdavies-tallon3305
@huwdavies-tallon3305 12 күн бұрын
​@@destructodisk9074yep people see a TV as a phone now as not a big buy now people use to spend 1000 plus and keep for years now 300 and keep for 2-3 years.
@ruukinen
@ruukinen 12 күн бұрын
@@destructodisk9074 I mean, if the TV you get in 3 years is way better than the high end TV now that you have to pay 6 times the price for. Then it makes all the sense in the world to buy the passable TV now and upgrade it when technology inevitably advances.
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 11 күн бұрын
Apple components are not tested to low failure rate. They have extremely high failure rates, some of the most shoddy (or intentionally bad) engineering in the market. In the electronics repair space they have a reputation for issues that no other brand seems to even have to consider because they engineer their products to fail in order to drive more sales. Stuff like completely stationary ribbon cables breaking after less than a year of normal use. They're a bad comparison.
@destructodisk9074
@destructodisk9074 11 күн бұрын
@@Erowens98 That is false as heck. Even Louis Rossmann, a known anti-Apple evangelist and repair man, will tell you, of all the things he hates Apple for, at least they have good build quality. They aren't made to be easily repaired, but they are built solid from the ground up and made to last. There were a few short years where Jony Ive got to make design calls, and he tried to go way too thin and way too lite with everything, and that caused issues.. but yeah that was only a few years during the bend gate and butterfly era. He hasn't been with the company for a long time now. He was only CDO from 2015-2019. Apple was known for quality since the 70s, and the thin and lite period was killed in 2020.. so 4 years of a select few products having issues that werent even due to cheap parts like HP, Asus, and Acer are known for failing.. but because they tried to overachieve. Ive took Form Over Function way too far.
@sureshkumar-rs8ct
@sureshkumar-rs8ct 9 күн бұрын
Big brands don't know to price their products rightly when Chinese brands sell at half the price of big brands. 70 and 80's business model was very different from the 2000's.
@kevincrawford6243
@kevincrawford6243 11 күн бұрын
Believe it or not, I had a 40” (yes 40”) 4:3 (there was also a 42” 16:9 available) flat-faced HD Tube TV from Sony that I bought new in 2004, because it was so much cheaper than the Flat Panels of comparable size at the time. The thing weighed around 300 lbs, had DVI, did 1080i, and had its own subwoofer. Required a special stand made just for it. Was about 3’ deep. And it was awesome. To this day I have not heard a TV that sounded nearly as well as that one did. Wish I still had it. All that being said I like my 50” LED Sony real well. It’s not the biggest TV in the house, but it is the best, especially for gaming.
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Those CRT is the best Sony tv ever did. Sadly CRT weight and energy consumption is too high forcing them to migrate to LCD
@Strike_Raid
@Strike_Raid 8 күн бұрын
Bought a A8H oled a while back, it developed a row of dead pixels going from top to bottom right in the middle literally 18 days after the 1 year warranty expired. They said nope, not going to do anything about it. Before that, I had an XBR-85X850G that only lasted 2 years. Before those I had a series of 51, 57 and 65 inch RPTV’s, all of which died. I guess I’m a glutton for punishment but I did finally learn my lesson; Sony reliability is terrible. I did have a KDL-70W850B that died too, but after I fixed it with a new main board, it never did die again, I just got rid of it because it was old but still working (but it did die, most would have trashed it). Literally every Sony TV I've ever owned from 2002 until now died quickly.
@michaelportier8597
@michaelportier8597 11 күн бұрын
I bought a Sony TV in 2021 and it's a great TV but I don't see myself buying another one over in LG mainly because the Sony caps their HDMI 2.1 ports to 32 gigabytes per second which means you can't run vrr and Dolby vision at the same time not to mention they only give you two HDMI 2.1 ports and limit the other two to 2.0 while LG pushes their HDMI 2.1 ports to 40 gigabits per second and give you four of them
@onkz
@onkz 10 күн бұрын
This is only true for MT5895-based Sony TVs and before that. However, anything from A95L onwards (new range) uses the Pentonic 1000 chipset base, which surpasses this HDMI limitation.
@chebrubin
@chebrubin 12 күн бұрын
This is well done
@mikemccormick8115
@mikemccormick8115 12 күн бұрын
Back in the day everyone wanted a Sony TV. When you bought one, you knew you had the best. Sony got complacent and lazy.
@Steven64
@Steven64 12 күн бұрын
I bought a Bravia TV at Costco and not even a month later I got a letter saying that they extended my warranty for free. Then, at Costco, I saw many of the same TVs at the store. All completely dead. Mine still works, but it always makes a click sound when turning it on or off. (4K 65" just in case.) EDIT: The sound comes from the Power Supply inside the TV.
@jjunify
@jjunify 12 күн бұрын
Do kids visit often, grandpa?
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Sony quality turned into bad quality post covid. I got Sony phone and it got vertical green Line. I saw many of people in Sony FB group complaining their tv died under warrranty, they Said their old Sony tv still working.....so after Sony fixed those tv, they resell it and stick with their old Sony tv
@FSWEB2011
@FSWEB2011 10 күн бұрын
They dont update their android tv software...2 + years with a sony tv...still stuck on android 10. No updates for 2 years. Just buy a cheaper tv with good quality and add a google tv dongle...problem solved.
@pasjeihobby
@pasjeihobby 12 күн бұрын
I love this channel. Best one man podcast.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
Thanks you so much man!
@nitricoxide1
@nitricoxide1 12 күн бұрын
I actually have a Sony TV myself but was never used because it was upstairs used for binge watching on the bed but was never used at all because the upstairs was really hot. The last time I knew it was used was from last year. All it did was it being just a decorative thing. Our main TV that lives in the living room is a Samsung TV. Yep... A Samsung TV. We also recently bought a LG TV because we wanted a OLED TV but was not used in the living room. It was more like my sister's personal TV that she uses nearly every day probably.
@kifkroker6483
@kifkroker6483 9 күн бұрын
Hehe... serves them right! I have always loved Sony products and until seven years ago i only bought SONY products. But one day it hit me... SAMSUNG also makes nice products just like SONY, but unlike SONY their products are not overpriced. Today I have many different electronics brands, except for SONY because of their overpricing.
@braydensecora3516
@braydensecora3516 12 күн бұрын
I own and still use the original Sony Bravia series “flatscreen” (it’s like 4” thick”) TV. It’s perfect for console gaming.
@Drazorig2
@Drazorig2 2 күн бұрын
Sony is still the best, going strong here in the UK. Have had Sony tvs for over 20 years, picture sound & technology/features is generally a cut above the competition.
@elikwok4389
@elikwok4389 11 күн бұрын
Japan believed that with its strong economic strength, it could break free from the control of the United States and become an independent sovereign country. As a result, the United States imposed economic oppression on Japan, leading to the signing of the Plaza Accord. In order to replace Japan's supply, the United States supported South Korea's manufacturing industry, and Japan fell into a long-term recession after a brief growth in the Plaza Accord, causing many Japanese companies to face crises and decision-making and R&D failures, leading to the loss of leadership in LCD and OLED for Japanese home appliances and television. If it weren't for the United States suppressing Japan, there wouldn't have been the rise of South Korea's manufacturing industry. Now, the United States is trying to use its old tricks to suppress China and support Southeast Asian countries, but none of them can succeed.
@InfiniteForces
@InfiniteForces 10 күн бұрын
Here are my 2 cents on the Sony situation,seeing it from the brazillian standpoint: In the 90s and early 00s,Sony was the way to go if you wanted quality over anything else. You wanted a good TV? You got a Trinitron or a WEGA. You wanted the best possible audio quality for your living room mini system,but didn't want to overpay for an ultra-niche luxury brand? Get a Sony one. Digital cameras and camcorders? Home Theaters? Headphones? Sony got everything in the upper spectrum of consumer eletronics covered in this time. The problems came when the mid-10s came around here,and with that,came the smart TVs. Sony was extremely slow to adopt smart TVs,even in its higher end lineup,while Samsung and LG(and to a lesser extent,Philips and Philco) started nosediving onto the smart tv trend,chewing away all the market share Sony had here. Even the picture and sound quality didn't matter anymore,because LG and Samsung could easily match these aspects to the unkeen eye of an average consumer,and also had the advantage of decently reasonable pricing,unlike Sony. As for the other sectors,they weren't doing well either. They were slow to move to wireless speakers,and in the meantime,Harman/Kardon,with its JBL division,ate away all their marketshare in the audio sector,while Lenovo/Motorola and Samsung ate away what little they had in the phone sector in the post-Ericsson era. Oh,and Canon basically sent Sony to the nethers on the now-niche DSLR sector. Sony then started pulling out division by division until 2019,when they quit selling consumer electronics alltogether here,Playstation excluded. Their factory in Manaus is now a manufacturing plant for Mondial,a brazillian small kitchen appliances maker,which in a turn of events,happened to partner with a brand which used to be owned by Sony(Aiwa),and in another turn of events,started manufacturing Aiwa-branded TVs here,on the same plant which used to make Sony TVs back when they came in the 90s.
@LyvGamer
@LyvGamer 10 күн бұрын
I grew up with many Sony TVs in my life, from the 80s to the 2020s. I can honestly say that this Sony Bravia is my sixth Bravia TV and my last Sony TV. I have a PlayStation 5 and an Xbox SX connected to this TV, and it works flawlessly with the PlayStation 5-never a single issue. But when it comes to my Xbox, it gives me issues all the time, like not changing video inputs or sometimes the TV turns off automatically when playing a game. I truly believe that Sony itself has an update on this TV to sabotage the Xbox on the TV. For that reason, I will never buy a Sony TV again.
@ianstorm45
@ianstorm45 10 күн бұрын
I own one of the latest Sony TV and it’s very good, it have one of the best pictures in comparison to Samsung and LG tv, what’s causing Sony down fall it’s not about the inability to make good tv” it’s their marketing approach, they mostly caters to wealthy people with their high prices 😮
@tim3172
@tim3172 2 күн бұрын
After owning the 40EX400 and the XBR-65X900E, the 65A80K will be my last Sony. I ordered it, and it has inductor squeal that varies with the amount of gray on screen. Lots of gray? Lots of squeal. You can watch a scene and hear ear-piercing pitch change from almost-tolerable to "turn the TV off now." A Sony-authorized repair person came out and now the pitch is different but also worse. So... A) it's an issue on many units (unless I got 2 bad ones in a row... right...) and B) Sony didn't fix it. I called them back and they said "It's a fact of life that electronics make noise." I haven't heard a TV make a noise since the CRT days.
@tim3172
@tim3172 2 күн бұрын
I begrudgingly replace the A80K with an LG C3 which is tolerable but... wow the color, motion, and image stability is so much worse. I'd try Samsung, but their stubbornness to pay the licensing fee for Dolby Vision is a no-go. Also, it pops up every time you turn it on: You have an LG Soundbar Connected! and it saves the notices in the upper-right. I have 28 notices that I have a soundbar attached. Thanks LG! Meh, it's fine for now.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 2 күн бұрын
Dude A80K so pricy. Its very dim also. Its just like very over priced for the visual. I had a $5000 LED (made in Japan). Like that tv was going bad, n I was first looking at SONY, could NOT match the image. I end up getting Hisense U8. Like no joke the HIsense n Samsung hype are real. Just no comprising once owning one.
@bombkuan
@bombkuan 9 күн бұрын
I think one of the reason people choose other brand like Samsung and d LG because people just see review, compare the price tag and purchase online. I am quite confident most people will choose Sony when they visit physical store to compare the picture and built quality.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 9 күн бұрын
Yeah I am one of those esConfident ppl had $5000 LED (SHARP Aquos). Spend years trying to find upgrades. N kept going to Store n strange the SONY newr Flagship look Inferior than other brand’s other older panels. Its JUST disturbing. I at least give a change. My family sees SONY like :” NO ..why am I getting a tv look like worse than what I have?” I am talking about their flagship LED> SO bad. Their OLED . SEVERLY BLUE tinted . Whtie is always blue. SONY LOGO in demo when everything goes Black. The -SONY--is blue. THIS is SONY’s SOW White❄️ NOT ☁️ :P u dont belive me. u can go to BEST buy this weekend to look for SONY A80L A80K , the up coming 2024 SONY R8 will be d same.
@barneymiller4088
@barneymiller4088 9 күн бұрын
They never entered the computer monitor market. Sony usually had a great TV, but it was ALWAYS way over priced.
@CM-tc4ny
@CM-tc4ny 10 күн бұрын
Bought my Sony TVs in 2010. I was hoping to upgrade to newer televisions but these things just wont die. Ended up replacing because of the newer features and advancements - not because they broke.
@user-bk4pm6me8i
@user-bk4pm6me8i 8 күн бұрын
3:36 My Panasonic TV has the same menu, but with a different font and layout. I guess the Panasonic menu is the standard among their TVs?
@shanksinha81
@shanksinha81 10 күн бұрын
You obviously haven't experienced a modern Sony Bravia. Hell, they even make the LG OLED panel look better. The key is their X1 processor and picture processing. They have moved into the premier segment long back and still command a premium.
@shiro214okane
@shiro214okane 12 күн бұрын
in ph, for higher end TVs its Sony, Samsung and LG. and there's literally tons of chinese brand at mid and lower end. like itel android smart TV that's only 90 USD to 100 USD at 32-inch, got most of features that's important. if it breaks its not expensive and you won't cry.
@tonyiommisg
@tonyiommisg 12 күн бұрын
Sony uses both LG Oled and Samsung Oled. Depends on the model line and size (QD OLED panels can't get bigger than 77" currently.
@bendybruce
@bendybruce 12 күн бұрын
My first big tv was a Mitsubishi diva. If I recall it was a monolithic CRT 32 inches, and as heavy as a small tank. Back then it seemed like an impossibly large screen size, I guess it all comes down to expectations.
@vivekkumary
@vivekkumary 11 күн бұрын
Though Sony used Picture tube, LED/OLED Panel of other brands, its the unique circuitry which made it stand out in terms of quality and durability. Trinitron, WEGA, Bravia were the USP for Sony. A 2013 model 3D Bravia is competes with the best OLED TV in terms of Contrast and reproduction of deep blacks.
@Exlee-dq9uo
@Exlee-dq9uo 10 күн бұрын
It's very simple priorities shift over the years. Sony TV still have the best picture quality and build quality than any other company in the TV market. They also lead in the broadcast and production video monitor market. In addition year after year in surveys when people are asked which company they associate with top quality, it's Sony. I myself only buy Sony Tv's for that reason!
@dhuhuyee6690
@dhuhuyee6690 11 күн бұрын
作为曾经的业内人士, 十几年前业内其实就只剩下sony和其他品牌了. 其他大品牌都是在卖屏幕,剩下的soc在内的方案全都是第三方的...
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 12 күн бұрын
We used Samsung and LG and still have a number of their TVs, however we we decided to get one very nice high end we got a Sony OLED, the upscaling was far superior to LG or Samsung. I believe ours has an LG panel but the Sony software and processors make the picture just superior and reviews seemed to verify what we saw with our eyes. The speakers without a soundbar were also much better. We didn't really look at Sony for years but are very happy and will probably buy more of their TVs in the future.
@AdrianGentson
@AdrianGentson 10 күн бұрын
I'd still purchase Sony products.. Their technology and the designs are good. I believe Sony should think about having their own social media platform. That would be cool.
@AM562
@AM562 10 күн бұрын
Well, my Sony 49 inch X800G won’t connect to the Internet anymore I stopped using the Internet feature for like two years and I got it back in 2019 Black Friday. I did an update with a flash drive, but I did not fix the Internet problem ethernet and Wi-Fi don’t work on my TV for some reason, but the rest of the TV works flawlessly
@repatch43
@repatch43 12 күн бұрын
You knew this was coming: you have to be careful of studies, since sometimes they don't tell you what you think they do. Many studies have indeed shown a preference for Pepsi over Coke. But that isn't the full picture. The problem is that Pepsi is sweeter than Coke (to most pallets, and this can be regional as different sweeteners are used in different regions). That higher sweetness is immediately more appealing. However, once you get past the first few sips that sweetness starts to become less appealing. And when one takes into consideration drinking a whole container of the stuff, for most people Coke pulls ahead. So ya, in this case, the marketing is absolutely important, but the product matters quite a bit to.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 12 күн бұрын
U made a lot of good points. The SONY LEDS still been horandous tho on spects delivery last 5 yrs. They just keep making the same thing yearly call it flagship. Imagine making iphone -pro yearly up like 10 battery , n like 5% screen brightness. Then make ppl buy again n again? Thats what SONY did. Like it was crazy how pricy they were for like a VERY average Tv at $1300. When the TV could be a direct Lit tv like X85K that they are still selling .that thing does not have QLED or local dimming, not even mini LED. Just bad super dated technology.
@Grid56
@Grid56 2 күн бұрын
Sony did some fantastic CRT televisions and monitors. The switch to flat screens has seen them lose their way.
@Dmu_girl-2008
@Dmu_girl-2008 12 күн бұрын
Recently bought a new tv my main choices were LG and Sony- I bought the lg purely due to the cost difference. I have to go down a model for Sony to be affordable and even then the lg was cheaper. Maybe after spending the next few years with the lg I’ll decide the colour and motion handling that comes with a Sony are worth going for a lower model and paying a bit more, who knows?
@ROBERTBROWN-rp3jq
@ROBERTBROWN-rp3jq 12 күн бұрын
This is crazy because I have a Sony TV in every one of my bedrooms and I'm thinking about getting a new Bravia 9 TV as well and I have a 3D Sony TV that I'm currently watching your video on that I bought when I was stationed in Korea and it still works till (2012) this day. My mom has a Samsung TV that should replace like three four times now
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 12 күн бұрын
A true Sony enthusiast!
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
Old tv can still works. But today post covid tv will died after warrranty end
@bentencho
@bentencho 12 күн бұрын
Probably geopolitics plays a bit of a role too. When Sony dominated, the Yen was like ~250 for 1 USD. Due to the Plaza Accord, the Yen always lingered from around 100-150/USD instead, at least up until last year. Assuming the Yen depreciates and more tariffs are placed on China, there may be a possible resurgence of Sony.
@Tottorul
@Tottorul 10 күн бұрын
I still use my Sony 42" i bought 15 years ago, and it still looks very good in SDR mode. You get what you pay for
@drsysop
@drsysop 9 күн бұрын
Sony started to make TV's in Mexico & quality went downhill as they failed.
@benhardsim8629
@benhardsim8629 12 күн бұрын
Reupload?
@tedh1979
@tedh1979 7 күн бұрын
First, Hisense wanted to broaden their portfolio so they bought SHARP. A Hisense TV is a SHARP TV. I own a 85” QLED Samsung and it went out at 14 months. Only had a 12 month warranty which is ridiculous. Samsung did covers parts but I still had to pay $250 labor. I’m a member of many Home Theater Facebook groups and almost everyone says they’ll never buy a Samsung or they own a Samsung and will never own a Samsung again including me. I’ve had LG TV issues too. Almost everyone that says to stay away from Samsung says they recommend Sony. Maybe Sony isn’t as big of a producer now, but they are the Mercedes Benz of TVs. You get what you pay for.
@kirby-junioroabile4492
@kirby-junioroabile4492 12 күн бұрын
Anything Sony in general is on the decline... If The Playstation does slip also, im afraid to say Sony as a company may capsize...
@slomotrainwreck
@slomotrainwreck 11 күн бұрын
I wanted to know how much power that 152 inch Panasonic plasma tv would draw so I asked Gemini - the Google AI, it told me that since that 152 inch plasma tv never went into production it estimated that it would "possibly exceeding 500 watts depending on usage and brightness settings." YIKES!
@nirvanaj1010
@nirvanaj1010 12 күн бұрын
In India Sony tv ‘s market share and company’s profits are improving year over year as people are preferring buying sony over Korean and Chinese brands . Sony is the preferred choice for a tv weather it’s oled or Mini led . Chinese brands like tcl and Hisense are getting hammered here .
@arx117
@arx117 11 күн бұрын
But Sony tv is so overprice especially at entry level tv
@nirvanaj1010
@nirvanaj1010 10 күн бұрын
@@arx117 do you go to Starbucks and say oh their coffee is so overpriced . Or go to dominos and say oh I can bake that pizza at home for less than 5€ , Sony is not overpriced they just offer better quality and reliably compared to other brands . That’s the reason why sony makes very little profit from its consumer electronics division .
@nirvanaj1010
@nirvanaj1010 10 күн бұрын
@@arx117 do you go to Starbucks and say oh their coffee is so overpriced . Or go to dominos and say oh I can bake that pizza at home for less than 5€ , Sony is not overpriced they just offer better quality and reliably compared to other brands . That’s the reason why sony makes very little profit from its consumer electronics division .
@arx117
@arx117 10 күн бұрын
@@nirvanaj1010 better quality? You didn't know how many people ranting about their new Sony tv they bought? It died after 1 year use, thank's God they still under warranty and they sell it after Sony fixed those tv's. This happened since post covid. Basically quality of Sony is no longer there.... The good One is the old One at the time when Sony use JDI panel, but since JDI change their product to OLED, Sony changed supplier to Samsung and since then quality is 50-50
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