I was certain that she was going to stand up,she always respected the elder!

Weren’t they?!

@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. Chile. Take a chill pill. Get over it. Florence was not the star. She did not have IT. DIANA ROSS DID AND STILL DOES.. Hence her having a pop hit on the charts RIGHT NOW. GET OVER IT.

Yes. Loved Mary Wilson.

I love Diana! The essence of glamour

Lana Turner was the epitome of the Studio System Star, a glorious creation of Old Hollywood whose like will never be seen again. The public always clamored for her.

Johan Bengtsson She seemed remarkably nervous to me. I don't know much about her career, but I suspect that the height of her popularity was already far behind her when she made this appearance, and she may have been worried that she wouldn't be remembered . I think she was genuinely both touched and grateful for the enthusiastic reaction she received from the studio audience.

SaveThe TPC Right you are. As far as I know she had her biggest success in the 40's and 50's. She was also famous for her eight marriages (among others Artie Shaw and Lex Barker) and that her daughter Cheryl Crane stabbed her mother's lover Johnny Stompanato to death in self-defense after he had violently attacked her mother in 1958.

Johan Bengtsson Yikes! Yet another gruesome story. I hope there won't be any more of them...

SaveThe TPC Hollywood is full of gruesome stories but I shall try to restrain myself in the future. :)

She was gorgeous for sure

My mom, in 1966-67, had a wig like Florence had on. She called it her Dutch Boy wig.

Because she's smart! Lol

Arlene Francis was in the theater doing plays so she knew and worked with many of these stars. She also kept up with the plays and movies.

I was knocked out by how quickly Suzy figured out there as a group and then said Supremes

Arlene was blessed with intelligence, insight, wit.

@zyeah he’s so great no one knows who the hell he is....”Digby”. Not exactly a name for the Ages

He was well known in Australia and England. Doesn't make him any less interesting or important in his sphere.

She was either a hypocrite, a liar, or incredibly naïve. She wrote that when she loved a man she married him, like an old-fashioned girl, but Esther Williams could hear her and Fernando Lamas having sex through her dressing -room wall long before he married Esther. She asked why didn't they get somebody not ugly for 'Postman', her best film, (John Garfield--ugly??). She said Tyrone Power was the love of her life without realizing he was bisexual; she denied being pregnant by Mickey Rooney--maybe at that young age she didn't know? And who knows really what happened that night with Stompanato--did Cheryl take the rap?

@@rogerpropes7129 She (Lana Turner) admitted to having an abortion but the child was with Artie Shaw, not Mickey Rooney. Mickey Rooney claimed (in later years) to have slept with Lana Turner (and Norma Shearer, among others) but think it was just a way to sell books.

@@rogerpropes7129 Roger, I agree with you.

@@johnfd0210 Mickey Rooney had an interview years later with BBC and said that those were lies to sell the book once the interviewer brought them up. I'm inclined to believe Lana that she didn't have a relationship with him. You look at her future relationships/marriages and Mickey doesn't seem her type.

@@rogerpropes7129 Since when does sex=love? Yea Lana Turner had sex with Lamas, but that doesn't mean she was in love with him and wanted to marry him. She wasn't pregnant with Mickey's child and denied any relationship with him (and looking at her future relationships, Mickey wasn't her type anyways - and Mickey confessed to fabricating many details in his memoir to sell books). It's not her place to call out Tyrone Power's sexuality. And her daughter Cheryl is still confessing to killing Stompanato. And forensic evidence supports her. I read her book and don't remember her calling John Garfield ugly so I can't comment on that one. I don't know what gripe you have against Lana, but she never said she was perfect.

He was gorgeous and so sweet.

z Ooh I disagree with nearly all of that. I've found Arlene mildly funny and pleasant over the years but that's about it. The tonged wig-like hair, the tiaras, chandelier earrings and that Wilma Flintstone twang of hers with the upraised, elongated tone when she asks a question "of some kiiiinnnd?'....all of it, grates on me. She's my least favourite out of the classic 'Kilgallen, Allen, Francis, Serf' panel.

@z just your low life opinion!

@@davidsanderson5918 I think you forgot that this is/was Showbiz!

Her death was a mystery and still is

Specially Florence.

I don't want to sound mean,but the show just isn't the same without Dorothy Kilgallan.

The Supremes were as gracious but much more humble. It was unheard back then of black entertainers to be on such a show. Racial segregation was at its peak.

By 1966 segregation was much milder in the north.

No "han partido"; lo que ocurre es que se han muerto.

@@opale1572 They weren't dead THEN!

Diana Ross will be 80 on March 26,2024.

@@GGE47That's right! Talk about time flying!

Seguro que Lana Turner estará contentísima con el comentario que usted ha hecho. 😆

Miss Lana was always gracious with her fans

OMG! I KNOW!! I started fan girling when I saw her lol

Yea that is unfair that everyone loves Motown yet puts down Miss Ross, its biggest star. I liked Diana's voice early on but it was a bit grating. By the 70s, she had developed into a great singer, when her voice gained some maturity. I am not interested in her personally, I am there for the music. She is a good musician.

AMEN! SO TRUE!!!!!!

@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. 😂😂😂😂😂Florence and Mars had class?!😂😂😂😂😂😂😩I can’t!!!!!!!

Great singers, but they collectively had a hard time responding to the questions.

So is Suzy Knickerbocker who is 48 here and looks fantastic.She lived to be 98.

@z There is some connection between her being married 7 times and he death? As if she had stayed married to one guy she would still be alive?

Vahan Nisanian This episode was after Dorothy’s death in 1965 I assume? It’s before Jayne Mansfield’s death in 1967.

@@moonbeam3362 Yes, Dorothy Kilgallen "died" on November 8, 1965. I only say died in quotes because if I make a reference to her being murdered, some deep state shill types in a "there was never any proof" standard hack comment. So, I'm not going to go there. For now.

I heard it madmax?? 😂😅

I completely agree. That and Back Street

We used to tease my grandma that she had a 'crush' on Arlene. She admired her so much.

Good knowledge!

great looking guy

John Pennel is my father. It's great to hear such great comments!

"The Supremes". Years after they were Diana Ross and The Supremes. They were -and are- my favorite singing threesome. Frorence Ballard, RIP, was not too long with the group.

I am pleased to hear the additional information. The comments section is always interesting.

Soulier I had forgotten that song!

+romeman01 Correct with regard to the narrow definition of "spirits," but oddly enough, seconds earlier, John does split almost exactly the same hair with regard to "booze."

I think they were trying to make up for what happend on the question before when they asked if dealt in booze. Im not sure the technical def'n of "booze" but it seems booze is a pretty broad term and it seems that responding No was misleading. With that still lingering in the air, Suzy is trying to determine if alcohol is involved so they are trying to steer her that way. It was convoluted and happened a bit on the show.

soulierinvestments: The 1929 was with Ruth Chatterton and she was nominated for Best Actress. In 1931 Helen Hayes, won an Oscar, was directed by Lionel Barrymore but the title was changed to The Sin of Madelon Claudette.. Thé remake, also titled Madame X, starred Lana. Chatterton was just famous in the 1930s, and particularly despicable in Walter Huston's 1936 Dodswortb, a film not to be missed.

@@michaeldanello3966 The great Gladys George I think may have been nominated for her 1937 version. Too bad Ms. George's alcoholism prevented her from becoming the great star she should have been. She had memorable bits in The Hard Way and The Best Years of our Lives in the 1940s, and died at the age of 50. Ruth's character wasn't so bad in Dodsworth. Why do you think that? WEHT her and Nancy Carroll?

Well, regardless of how it did when it was released, it is a great Lana Turner melodrama, a genre she did particularly well. It definitely stirs the emotions.

Etiquette say's ladies too, must stand for elders.

She was by far and away the classiest, most genuine, most real, most ingratiating, and most down to earth out of all of them. Not to mention the fact that she was an incredibly attractive woman and very very sweet.

@@dannysullivan8929 She was indeed all of the above. 👍

@@rmelin13231 Big time

And she was a good person....sensitive and kind.

Diane was intended to be her birth name, but thanks to a clerical error at the hospital where she was born, she became Diana instead, but it didn't matter because her father still calls her Diane.

And girl groups in general.

Chris Barat Or even just groups in general.

When did Diana Ross start separating her name from the group ?

Barry G 1967.

The "girl group" phenomenon really peaked in 1963 and ebbed by 1964, when The Supremes began their historic run of #1 hits. They were technically a part of the era, but really transcended it, and lasted far beyond its narrow range. Groups like The Shirelles, The Ronettes, The Shangri-Las, et al., were basically off the Top 40 by 1965, while The Supremes had ten #1 hits by 1967, and then as the re-christened Diana Ross & the Supremes, two more in 1968 and 1969, respectively.

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My mom thought Phyllis Diller was.

Definitive answer in order: 1. Hedy Lamarr; 2. Elizabeth Taylor; 3. Catherine Deneuve; 4. Vivien Leigh; 5. Lana Turner; 6. Carmel Myers; 7. Marilyn Monroe; 8. Nicole Kidman; 9. Debra Paget; 10. Grace Kelly, Maureen O'Hara, Ava Gardner....

That's so true. but her looks began to fade in her 30s. I didn't think she was beautiful anymore by the time of Imitation of Life. She was only 38 at the time.

@@CountachQuattrovalvole There's another outrageously gorgeous woman in Marriage, a forgotten starlet named Frances Gifford.

That struck me as odd, too, as well-known as she was by then.

Yes, he could. He was especially prone to pronouncing a short vowel as though it were a long vowel, as in the "o" in "roster" and "modicum", the "e" in "felon", and the "a" in "Lana".

Either Bennett speaks New Yorker, he has a slight speech impediment, or both which has nothing to do with being a publisher if he wants to do that.

@Michael Danello Yes, that grated.

And Lana was very specific about how she wanted her name pronounced. Kind of mean of Bennett to go against her.

Todd Brandt I was constantly thinking how amazingly handsome he was while he was on the screen!

John Pennel is my father :)

Sean Pennel ~ SO AWESOME!!! I must be a great pleasure to see him...I certainly hope so anyway. You should mention he’s your father in the main comments.

Perfect.

@@youngexec777 very handsome father! Bet you are just as good looking.

What's a Texan accent?

+Vahan Nisanian Born in El Paso, Texas; raised in southern California; in the early 40's moved to Florida as a young adult and single parent; in 1957 moved to NYC.

I wish Suzy could have been made a permanent panelist.

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He seemed to still be learning about the geography of wine regions in Northern California.

John Gavinesque

+TheJMascis666 LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! Android?

+TheJMascis666 Fortunately you saw the era of your ways.

@@loissimmons6558 Nice!

And kindness. She was nice, which might have been overshadowed by her extraordinary beauty class and glamour, but still a valuable thing. Miss Lana was very popular with her peers- she was a real.lady.

That was an embarrassing choice of words for John!

SaveThe TPC It was a slip, John said he blushed. :)

Well she was uncomfortable around Whites in settings such as this.

Page-Hendryx: And you know that how? And why?

It's a shame; 10 years later and, well.... She was a fine singer and founding member.

@@Page-Hendryx I understand that. I can't FEEL it, but I recognize it. At Motown, Martha Reeves is MY girl! I love her voice and that toothy smile of hers while she sings. Hell, ALL of Motown is a national treasure. I look at photos of that little house, then think of and hear in my head the massive, awesome, accumulation of glorious music that exploded from there and my mind is blown to smithereens. Thanks to all involved.

Mary didn't look to happy either.