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Definitely.

There is a great interview with her from 1977 on youtube where she is in her 70s and still looks phenomenal. She was such a class act.

He appeared in the first film version of 'The Great Escape' which had no Americans in it. No Americans were in the camp therefore took no part in the escape.

Thanks for that info.

He was an exceptionally good guest panelist and very sharply intelligent man too. I recently watched his movie with Margaret Lockwood and became his fan. Astonishingly method actor with exceptional good looks and razor sharp intellect.

Thank you.

Yes. He identified the Rockette!

His whole persona really struck me when I first watched this. I would kill for that accent, lol. What a charmer!

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A gentleman and quite perceptive.

Make that a million after-tax, pre-inflation, 1960 dollars

Arlene seemed to never age. In this episode she was 53 years old, and looked so good.

***** Thanks for this information. Makes me admire her all the more. I'll have to check out an autobiography.

wiguy3 -- Myrna Loy was a class act (to use a Johnny Carsonism) in every way. She was a native of Montana, by the way. Also, as I posted originally (and to which you responded), she was an outspoken opponent of racism, especially in the Hollywood film industry. She often asked producers why black actors and actresses were only allowed to play servants, saying things like, "Why can't we have a black actor walking up the courthouse steps as an attorney?" (She probably used the term "Negro" back in the 1940's when she said that because that was the respectful term in use in that era.) She was someone who believed in justice and doing what was right, and speaking up for those not in a position to be heard if they spoke up for themselves. Then, too, she could play a very classy sort of lady in a sophisticated comedy film, such as Nora Charles opposite William Powell as Nick Charles in "The Thin Man" series. She definitely wasn't stuck on herself and didn't think she was special because she was so well-known as a movie star -- absolutely not the kind of person who enjoyed being driven around in a limousine with a uniformed chauffeur. Like Jack Benny, she thought that every human being mattered. Truly a mensch.

I remember hearing somewhere that when Clark Gable was crowned the King of Hollywood, Ms. Loy was crowned the Queen.

Woman such as Loy, simply don't exist in Hollywood now. Glamour needs mystery and you can't have it with smart phones, cameras everywhere, constant news cycle, and last , but not least a phoney attempt at egalitarianism. A

I tbought they all were pretending in Hollyweird..

‘Victim’.

If it's any consolation, we'll all be joining them soon enough.

@@acousticshadow4032 Thanks - but actually, it is not..

@@timokautto9815 Not to you, Sparky - cuz I wasn't addressing you! 😂🤣😂

After so many years they are no longer acting, they are just surviving.

they are still alive in the many films they have left that one can still see ...

Cool facts!

I'm a Montana boy and didn't know that. But then again, she was a bit before my time.

To think she began as a bogus 'exotic' native girl in burnt cork and grass skirts!

Was a real treat to see Mr. Bogarde in this!

I'd never heard of Dirk Bogarde before, but I agree he was an excellent panelist! He guessed the first contestant's line quite quickly, and I think he guessed the Mystery Guest was Myrna Loy before anyone else did, but kept going for a couple of rounds, anyway.

Gay man who REFUSED to discuss his private life but did not shirk from playing a dramatic closet homosexual role long before it was done. He refused to go out with women for 'show', only if they were real friends of his. Here's to not giving a damn!

vergil arma HBC is in no position to judge anyone ever. Bogarde starred in one of the 1st movies to deal with the subject, he was an atypical star for decades, a survivor in an unforgiving industry.

Dirk Bogarde was the star of an absolute masterpiece:Death in Venith of Visconti. For that he belongs forever to the History of cinéman and more an "intellectual" actor

Laura Thornton She was a beautiful,classy lady.

What a Lady!

She was in 'The April Fools' (1969) with Charles Boyer as the older couple- Jack Lemmon and Catherine Deneuve were the others. In the year of 'Easy Rider' and tedious hippy or student-rebellion flicks, this little remembered picture is an oasis of charm and sophistication. Lemmon convinced Myrna to return to the screen after almost a decade, and she looks fabulous.

And I am sure Bennett gave her a vote. Really pretty. Great info!

+Lambchop47 As a native New Yorker I say, would that it were true. But Maria Fletcher of North Carolina was Miss America in 1962. Nancy Fleming of Michigan (later the wife of TV personality Jim Lange) was crowned Miss America 1961. (Susan Jane Talbert of New York won Miss Congeniality that year.) That contest was held in Atlantic City on 9/10/60. Three states (Illinois, New Jersey and New York) sent two contestants to the Miss America 1961 pageant. Sherrylyn Patecell was the other NY contestant, but neither she or Miss Talbert were in the top 10. As best I can tell, Sherrylyn was Miss New York City, while Susan Jane was Miss New York State. Sherrylyn Patecell was in the top 15 of the 1962 MIss USA competition, but the winner of that contest was Macel Wilson of Hawaii.

@@loissimmons6558 Yes, these data appear to be correct for Miss America and Miss USA that year. I looked it up as well because something about the statement struck me as inaccurate.

Fascinating. Thanks for this info.

buyvital/Justvintedge Myrna avoided playing the old lady horror movies en vogue, went to the stage, toured for years, eventually made it to Broadway.

Lucy Florey - I think it is maternal. LOL. In most episodes whoever is sitting in the last chair to our left, which is usually Arlene or Dorothy, tends to watch the contestants walk offstage because they are all walking toward the audience and the footlights, but also all the cameramen, cables and equipment, so are in some danger of tripping over things. I think you will note this is common with elderly guests and even men like Liberace and others when the ladies are not engaged in some other conversation with panelists as the guest walks off. They have done this with very homely people and huge numbers of folks who are not well-known. Occasionally, John has made some comment about being careful. They do not so much stare when they were in the habit of walking off toward the chalkboard or behind John because there wasn't an obstacle course on that side. Even female panelists Margaret Truman and Phyllis Newman have done it when sitting in that chair because all the hardware and coworkers are far closer than you might think. They were frequent enough visitors on the set to be conscious of the perils.

Yep every week!

I noticed that too on many contestants, not all: celebrities, "attractive women," famous sports people, etc.

Beautiful, cursive signatures!

I have noticed that several times especially when they admire the clothing.

Best Hollywood movie couple. pure class and wit.

They were never connected romantically, but remained lifelong friends.

Great chemistry!

We know why, if we think about it, @Franco Aragosta, and I am twenty years younger. We got lazy and when first signs of cultural decay appeared, good people did not stand up and fight. We also kept Senators & Congressmen in there who never fought either!

gcjerryusc and it also lies with our side who refused to fight and Rockefeller then Bush Republicans who wanted to be buds with the enemies of our country rather than FIGHT.

I'm sorry to say you are right....

Tis isn't real life. This is a fantasy. Outside this CBS studio, America has a lot of problems that aren't being dealt with. The seeds of a global empire, which will wreck our democracy, have already been sown.

Yeah. And the McCarthy trials...Struggles for Civil Rights...

IronClad292 Made her a star, after years & dozens of movies. Went on strike for star salary & pay equity with her male co-star, they were going to recast Nora Charles! Resolved, she was Queen of Hollywood by 1938, she & Powell went on to make 14 movies together. Left Hollywood during the War years to work for the Red Cross, returned to get lead billing in Best Picture classic, The Best Years of Our Lives. Myrna was always at her best.

Interesting bio. Thanks for the information. You're right, Myrna was always at her best !!

IronClad292 She was friends with Bette Davis AND Joan Crawford! Her takedown of Christina Crawford in her memoirs is a highlight. Myrna worked with her on stage, saw it 1st hand. Thin Man is the movie that introduced me to her & you're right, it's the best, Hays Office was just getting started & they could get away with more. Martinis, not babies. Couldn't have come any where near Nick's tabloids after 1934.

This episode is a quarter century after the Thin Man series began, and just a couple of days before Myrna turned 55. How did she manage to apparently age only a few years during that period? Inner beauty manifesting itself in outer beauty is the best explanation I can come up with.

my favorite of hers, and it is with Powell, is Libeled Lady

Almost as if he had.....actually.....seen ....her.....before.

My god..could he have seen her before..gasp..maybe they are from the same planet..

@@robertsprouse9282 Hmmm. And I always thought he was from Pluto!

@@kennethlatham3133 Yes. It..... is.....odd..... isn't..... it!

Guess? Oh, please … !

She was delightful! To be a Rockette! Wow!

It's too bad she didn't win the 1960 Miss America contest. 😟

Patrick Earley You're welcome, Patrick. Glad you're enjoying the shows.

"roaster"

@@preppysocks209 If you're talking about Bennett's pronunciation of 'roster' with a long 'o', it's an older pronunciation that has died out since then, but it's in the 1961 Webster's Third New International Unabridged Dictionary as an alternate. The language changes over time, and Bennett went to school over a century ago.

They overdid the "chuckles" bit I think.

Those two were constantly picking at each other. It was always done in fun but I believe every once in awhile either of them would push a little more than they should have. In all, it was friendly banter.

@@tomtriffid yes the chuckles thing quicly became not funny.

Those WML Panellists’ names defined in full. Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.

Yes, it is baffling. Some folks have argued that the rules explanations were for the benefit of new viewers, but I don't buy it. WML was a hugely popular show, everyone knew how it worked. Besides, a new viewer could figure out the rules without any explanation by watching a single round of play. Fortunately, the rules could be explained very, very quickly so it doesn't drag down the show when it happens, but I agree with you, it's nonsensical that the producers wouldn't have gone over the rules with the contestants in advance.

Actually, I was thinking that she might have been a bit nervous and that she was on autopilot for the first few minutes. Quite beautiful ... and I'm not surprised that she won Miss Congeniality at the 1960 pageant ... she was so gracious.

I find it hard to believe that a young lady like this wouldn't be familiar enough with WML to know how it is played since it was a very popular program. Although, even if she didn't know, you'd think that if you were going to appear on a national TV program you'd ask friends, family, ANYBODY what it was about and how it was played before you went on the air. At least it seems strange to me.

I wonder if that's a statement they have to say on the air so everyone knows they did go over the rules.....a legal thing. So someone can't later say Oh, I didn't know that and they have no proof. I know I have seen some say no to that question...that may be from nervousness......

But they all get $50 no matter how many cards are flipped.

Perfect in a hotel lounge or boudoir, but seldom seen in an apron or by the hearth...

HAHAHA..very good..MTM show

He didn't have any "sexual discomfort."

He was a very popular leading man in Britain. Particularly in the Doctor in the House series.

Dirk's real first name was indeed "Derek". In fact, he was knighted as "Sir Derek". He was one of the most interesting actors of his generation and was as out-of-the-closet as the times would allow without ruining his career.

If I’m not mistaken he was the first ‘Star’ to play a homosexual character on the screen in Victim 1961.

At least a serious sympathetic one I think. The "Sissy" character was a comic mainstay of the movie industry almost from its beginnings. Remember, for example, Franklin Pangborn?

There was nothing sissy about ‘Victim’ and I doubt very much, Dirk Bogarde would have portrayed a homosexual character like the likes of Franklin Pangborn on the screen. If you’re a fan of this brilliant actor and you haven’t seen this film I suggest you chase it up.

But I forgot about the German silent film"Different From the Others (1919} which starred Conrad Veigt and was apparently the basis for the plot of "Victim". from Wikipedia: "Anders als die Andern is one of the first sympathetic portrayals of homosexuals in the cinema.[1] The film's basic plot was used again in the 1961 UK film, Victim,[1] starring Dirk Bogarde." (But it barely survived Nazi censorship.)

but John over does teasing to the point of being obnoxious and tedious!!

gcjerryusc Agreed. I'm realky surprised how gratuitously Daly overused the 'gag'.

How many times would YOU like to be referred to as 'CHUCKLES' on national television?

Those WML Panellists’ names defined in full. Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.

No doubt it was better quality.

You’re correct Kenneth, it did get old until the ending when John paused before saying “good night...Bennett,” so that the repetition was a set up for the final cute remark. Other posters criticized Bennett’s response, but I think his actions were fine.

Sunbeam designed some great appliances in the 1950s and 1960s. My mother still uses a toaster and an electric skillet exactly like the ones pictured, and they are just about as old as this program if not older--as long as I can remember, and I can remember 1960 pretty well.

Wow! That’s really cool that your mom still has some of those old Sunbeam appliances. I was only 7 years old in 1960, so I don’t remember a whole lot from then. It wasn’t a very good time for my family then either.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And she is from NYC.

Yesh and what a drag. I thought they'd got over that hump by now.

Also it's been noted that people who listened to the debate on the radio thought Nixon won the debate.

Nixon refused make up saying it was "unmanly". As the Television era was already a factor...bad error on his part.

I was just 4 1/2 years old that summer, but I can clearly remember not liking Nixon's appearance during the televised debates, and my parents telling me that we didn't pick a President based on his looks.

Neil midkiff... women do.

ToddSF 94109 He also starred in 1 of the 1st movies to deal with the subject, when it was still criminal & censored.

And watching him play the lover of women was so believable. It was a shock for many that he was gay.

@@gailjarvis2592 But he also claimed to have had an affair with Capucine, the Frenchwoman with whom he co-starred in 'Song without End'.

While there is such elegance in these days, it is refreshing to be “woke” to people and not closeted. Such a waste of energy

Modern day actors could learn from him. We don't NEED to know.

Why do people insist on doing this, providing timecodes to jump to the mystery guest segment??? Anyone who's ever watched an episode of WML already knows that the mystery guest spots are always the third segment. If this is intended to help people who DON'T watch WML to skip past the whole rest of the episode so they can jump right to a guest. . . (a) It's kinda nutty to think that anyone is going to read through 100+ comments for a timecode before even watching the video itself, and (b) Even if anyone DID bother to do (a), comments "helping" people to skip past the whole rest of the episode deprive anyone new to the show of any chance to maybe discover they like the show itself, aside from the incredible roster of stars who were mystery guests. Thanks so much.

Lana Turner was widely known by the public as "The Sweater Girl", and I think everyone knew why. Nobody looked better in a sweater!