To die and live again

@@CryingPandaNo, to _die._ He despises the cyclical nature of the wheel and wants nothing more then to die and _stay_ that way; no being respun, no reincarnation. He wants a _permanent_ death, which of course, only Balefire and the Dark One himself can grant.

Back in that time men could become Aes Sedai.

I honestly didn't see the necessity of Rand founding the Asha'man. Why couldn't the men just become Aes Sedai after the cleansing of Saidin?

@@camperofcampbuddy2463 Because Aes Sedai have been women for thousands of years. Plus men who can channel are hated and will be hated for years to come until Logain and the Ashaman can gain peoples trust again

Not quite. Ishamael was sealed away in the books as well. The show's just portraying it like Lews Therin sealed away all the Forsaken individually instead of by chance when he sealed the Dark One. Ishamael still has some influence even though he's sealed, the same as in the books, which is how he can visit Lews Therin and heal him.

Thia conversation is based on their mewting after he was sealed, gone mad and killed his whole family no?

@@jamesotoole3648 Nah, this is supposed to be the moment when Ishamael initially got sealed. The show is showing it as if Lews seals away the Forsaken individually and then goes to seal the Dark One. He isn't mad yet.

This show is absolutely flipping awful. The WORST adaptation of any series or work in history. They’d have made a better show if they just called it Wheel of Time and made it a gay porno.