How To Convert Your Car To LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) | Wheeler Dealers

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5 жыл бұрын

Get a master class from Mike and Edd on how to convert your car to LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas).
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@Jankovic21412
@Jankovic21412 5 жыл бұрын
Edd: ''...whether i want gas or petrol'' Americans: (confused screaming)
@Cystus
@Cystus 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the world how ignorant you are. Comments are forever. "Americans" are essentially the whole human population of the western hemisphere.
@dc-zk8th
@dc-zk8th 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cystus That's - uhm - yeah, it's wrong.
@darthvortex5987
@darthvortex5987 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my question bro, also the picture has a G and a picture of a gas pump!!! (i am screaming)
@dieselfiesta2604
@dieselfiesta2604 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cystus Offended?
@DemeDemetre
@DemeDemetre 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@pr9039
@pr9039 2 жыл бұрын
Dual gas is standard in Italy. Blew me away first time I saw it I was like, "Wait...what what? Petrol, Diesel... GPL??? What's GPL?"
@ikemefulewisdom3748
@ikemefulewisdom3748 3 жыл бұрын
Please someone should help me on this ideal more. I love it
@Mr_Chris__
@Mr_Chris__ 4 жыл бұрын
Vehicle manufacturers such as Vauxhall used to install LPG systems into a certain number of their models as standard up until a few years ago. They don't do it so much these days in order to reduce production costs. It's a shame because LPG is a cleaner fuel and helps towards reducing the rate of petrol consumption. Any reduction in petrol consumption is still beneficial for the environment compared to no reduction at all.
@rustywreck6631
@rustywreck6631 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but it’s a pity SHELL have pulled the plug on lpg
@someperson7
@someperson7 3 жыл бұрын
It's doesn't matter. When you distill oil you get a certain amount of gasoline and a certain amount of propane (and butane, kerosene, diesel). So if everyone migrated to propane then you'd just push the prices skyhigh meanwhile there would be a ton of leftover gasoline that didn't get used. Setting all that aside, propane has lower energy density. So you need more propane then gasoline. You just need to make sure everything that is made is used without wasting anything. But what you really need to do is get off oil totally. Propane is cleaner then other petroleum products but it still produces carbon dioxide, which is a greenhouse gas. That alone isn't so bad if we had enough trees to soak it up. But we don't. Basically anything that's a hydrocarbon is going to release a carbon when it combusts. So although using propane is an improvement if not all the propane is getting used, converting everyone to propane does nothing that I can tell. Unless there is a way to alter the product ratios from fractional distillation that I am unaware of. Not an expert, just an interested amateur. But as far as I can tell redistribution of who is using what still has the same net emissions if everything produced is used. And if not everything produced it used then you have massive waste products and have to drill more and refine more. See the problem?
@Mr_Chris__
@Mr_Chris__ 3 жыл бұрын
​@@someperson7 I think it will be a long time until the world is ready to stop using oil totally. In the meantime, I think a variety of fuels (Petrol, LPG, Electricity, Hydrogen,) should be made more available for cars. As long as those fuels are used in the right proportion, the environment will still benefit from the overall reduction in Carbon dioxide emissions. As for LPG, it does produce carbon dioxide emissions, but it is lower than petrol. A lot of petrol cars on the roads today are suitable to have LPG systems installed. If half of them were to have LPG systems installed in them, the amount of carbon dioxide emissions would be significantly reduced. One disadvantage is the installation costs. But the advantage of having a car with LPG is the lower running costs. LPG is cheaper than petrol, the road tax is cheaper, and the engine life is extended due to the lower rate of petrol consumption. The money saved can go towards paying for other things. As for waste, a lot of things could be done to reduce it. Perhaps new cars ought to be manufactured at a slower rate, that would encourage more people to keep their current cars for longer instead of scrapping them too soon. That is already happening to some degree due to the current computer chip shortage. People that would normally buy a brand new car every 3 years are now buying preowned cars. I predict more spare parts will be used up over the next few years that would normally go to waste.
@someperson7
@someperson7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Chris__ I don't disagree with too much of what you said. And from a preparedness standpoint, dual fuel is REALLY GOOD THING. But I'm just saying all propane gets used and all gas gets used and it doesn't matter HOW it gets used, it gets used.
@Mr_Chris__
@Mr_Chris__ 3 жыл бұрын
@@someperson7 I'm not quite sure what you mean about propane and gas. I imagine the consumers do use it all when it's available. Same with petrol, if it's in the tank then it will get used.
@simonhill6776
@simonhill6776 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always telling my nephew's about his work they know more than I ever did back then 2 if them are mechanics one did up his own Audi his brother in law let him use his garage he's the owner top bloke goes above and beyond to help them out
@alexvalerio7252
@alexvalerio7252 Жыл бұрын
Just arrived from Costa Rica, my sister has a RAV4 with convertion. Many gas stations provide LP. Holy crap it's only the 3rd of the price and you can switch to Gasoline at anytime.
@mohammadalisultan3643
@mohammadalisultan3643 6 ай бұрын
Please explain the purpose of a distributor in lpg conversion? Thank you!
@MaitreMark
@MaitreMark 6 ай бұрын
because the timing of the spark is more import for LPG than petrol. So, an old distributor may have slight wear on the teeth and be out by just a little. A new distributor will be spot on!
@evertonbrome2539
@evertonbrome2539 4 жыл бұрын
where would i get this kit please?
@R0yL33
@R0yL33 5 жыл бұрын
hmm ...maybe I missed it but how is the vaporizer mated to the motor?
@bennadjiaymene5214
@bennadjiaymene5214 5 жыл бұрын
it goes with the water system and the hot water goes in the vaporizer and then magic happens
@poptartmcjelly7054
@poptartmcjelly7054 5 жыл бұрын
The hot coolant from the engine goes to the vaporizer to warm it up, otherwise the vaporizer would would freeze up. It also helps to keep the temperature constant to ensure a consistent operation.
@phoneblaster
@phoneblaster 2 жыл бұрын
...I want to convert an old petrol to LPG. How do I do it. Do I need to buy a kit for that particular car. Any advice will be appreciated as I do not wish to learn 'on the job'. many thanks.
@martin518441
@martin518441 5 ай бұрын
what is the car
@vishamdookia3088
@vishamdookia3088 4 жыл бұрын
i have a toyota vitz 1300 cc car, year 2014 and it is doing 14km/l under normal driving. Is it fine to do an LPG conversion on this type of car ? Please advise. What risks will there
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
you will get only 11 km/L on LPG as each liter of propane has 5-10% less energy than petrol, but it'll likely be cheaper... enjoy
@MrDziuka
@MrDziuka 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on system. My Toyota 1.8 valvematic on motorway takes 7l/100km and the same on LPG. Fact is that this system injects little bit of petrol every so often apparently in order to clean valves and also starts on petrol when engine is cold. on the first service I've been shown on the computer that I drove 51 something hours on LPG and 2.5 hours on petrol
@hassanjamal4212
@hassanjamal4212 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDziuka thats fine but whats the important thing is how much you spend per month on your modified system vs stock? If the cost savings are minimal then its not worth the additional complexity and capital investment.
@MrDziuka
@MrDziuka 2 жыл бұрын
@@hassanjamal4212 I don't spend money on system monthly 😂 not sure what you mean. I spend money on fuel now. And still in some places you can get LPG for 67pence/litre. But on average for 99 pence. The more you drive more you safe and I drive more then average. How much diesel is now?
@hassanjamal4212
@hassanjamal4212 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDziuka i mean your overall fuel costs. For example, before lpg u spent 100 dollars per week/month/year etc, but now you only spend 60 dollars for the same time period or travelled distance. Thats the most important metric, how much money you saved. Not how little fuel you consume.
@terminator499
@terminator499 2 жыл бұрын
Is it true the LPG explosion in the combustion chamber is dry, hotter and makes the car burn more oil?
@gnaedigerfels
@gnaedigerfels 2 жыл бұрын
No if adjusted properly
@ivandefreitas8555
@ivandefreitas8555 2 жыл бұрын
Proper adjusting is a must. Certainly dryer thou , as you should not start running on LPG right away as you pull off.
@zukacs
@zukacs Жыл бұрын
New systems auto start on petrol and switch to lpg/cng
@olanordtug1707
@olanordtug1707 4 жыл бұрын
Hello ! To use a vaporiser in Lpg system is now a bit old fashion. Latest system is a liquid injected system. With a vaporiser you can not drive on LPG from the start. With the liquid injected system you can drive on 100 % LPG.
@milanjovanovic6259
@milanjovanovic6259 4 жыл бұрын
You can drive with vaporiser on LPG from start if it is warm. Only problem is that petrol hoses can rust when permanent use of LPG and when you run out of LPG and switch to petrol some petrol hose may leak on hot engine and then off you go
@mosesmalcomx2454
@mosesmalcomx2454 3 жыл бұрын
There you go. But by so doing is no longer a dual fuel system cos you will be needing another lpg ecu to regulate the quantity and air ratio. So going by your point, it's a complete switch to lpg system
@michaelsela2328
@michaelsela2328 3 жыл бұрын
that is wrong in au they always start the whole year only with lpg since they even dont have any gasoline in the tank
@charlesdickens6706
@charlesdickens6706 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine problems with the car computer to a point these days. I do recall I converted a fuel injected car to LPG, early eighties model . I used a vaporiser which we call a gas converter or gas carburetor. Americans refer to gasoline as gas, so there would be confusion . A later improvement in the kit was the use of a flapping valve with variable on/off ratio for feeding the gas into the manifold and governed by a signal from the oxygen sensor reading if I got it all right ,and thus the ECU had a fix on something . The later models in late nineties started to require this so not to confuse the ECU . I got another car these days for which the LPG is piped in at small injectors at intake of each cylinder but I ain't studied it cos it works okay and I didn't install it and no damn room to poke about. But it still uses a smaller vapouriser as well..The LPG system for car I use regularly has a twenty years old tank which has missed two recertifications therefore but it's only the valves and gauges that get changed over andvif there was a leak.... Oh yeah hmm. Actually the tank has a rust patina , so I better paint it .
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 3 жыл бұрын
Vaporizer systems work more reliably. No trouble with the pump which is usually the problem with that system and cheaper and will run faster on LPG
@desshiels
@desshiels 2 жыл бұрын
Confused. The video just ended. Was that it? What did the vaporiser connect to? They connected it up in the engine bay and connected it to the LPG tank - and then the video just ended. Please note - I am NOT a mechanic in any way so this abrupt ending has left me confused. How/where did the vaporiser connect to the actual engine??
@mafosa9563
@mafosa9563 Жыл бұрын
felt like a incomplete bowl movement!
@jackjunior969
@jackjunior969 2 жыл бұрын
Where u base
@MrVsbt1
@MrVsbt1 3 ай бұрын
Wow you can buy a kit and install it yourself. In Australia it has to be fitted by a certified LPG mechanic and checked every 10 year's by a certified LPG mechanic. And it's got to have a LPG vin plate in the engine bay with the date of converson and the place that installed it
@51cent.20
@51cent.20 Жыл бұрын
My mine was using gas for heater. Nissan maxima97
@cjjenson489
@cjjenson489 5 жыл бұрын
What size tank?
@jonathanwaggoner2265
@jonathanwaggoner2265 5 жыл бұрын
its a 60.
@acepepito6180
@acepepito6180 4 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the tank sir?
@martin518441
@martin518441 5 ай бұрын
stako
@chuckthebull
@chuckthebull 2 жыл бұрын
Other than lack of getting petrol what's the advantages ?
@gabrielgomez2483
@gabrielgomez2483 2 жыл бұрын
Way wayyyyy cheaper than petrol
@chuckthebull
@chuckthebull 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgomez2483 Yeah but the distance between mpg is a factor too no? Takes more lpg for the same milles driven.
@simonhill6776
@simonhill6776 4 жыл бұрын
The Man
@philipwalton4877
@philipwalton4877 3 жыл бұрын
Like fitting a gold tooth cap to a smack heads rotten left molar
@dampcurtain
@dampcurtain 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you go to fill the lpg?
@viktormiloshevski9717
@viktormiloshevski9717 4 жыл бұрын
local gas station
@dkvasily
@dkvasily 4 жыл бұрын
Yep any gas station
@johnnydragonsmusic
@johnnydragonsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
what are they talking about any gas station bwahahahahahaha these guys don't know
@davidsnyder2000
@davidsnyder2000 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, this plan was abandoned because of the inspection afterwards 🤔
@jamessayer3404
@jamessayer3404 5 жыл бұрын
so no paint to protect the bare metal after drilling holes ? 😬
@Knife1437
@Knife1437 5 жыл бұрын
It's an all alloy car.
@arbit3r
@arbit3r 5 жыл бұрын
Aluminium body
@JDJD-mw9rr
@JDJD-mw9rr 4 жыл бұрын
Aluminum still corrodes
@JDJD-mw9rr
@JDJD-mw9rr 3 жыл бұрын
@@platinumsky845 paint doesn't corrode....
@theoxygen876
@theoxygen876 2 жыл бұрын
can i put this on a 2002-2005 Hyundai sonata? would you be able to sell me the things that i would need for the setup?
@marcoscaamano4135
@marcoscaamano4135 5 жыл бұрын
miss Ed....
@nathanaelpineda8049
@nathanaelpineda8049 3 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it at all
@niyaz3644
@niyaz3644 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on ur mileage, if you do around 10k miles anyway itll pay for itself
@JDJD-mw9rr
@JDJD-mw9rr 4 жыл бұрын
So why don't cars come like this from the factory? More power, more mpg, and cost less? Like WTF
@mainapeter1082
@mainapeter1082 4 жыл бұрын
I also ask my self the same question... Why does the manufacturer do all this
@wolfensteinJB
@wolfensteinJB 4 жыл бұрын
MPG is not more - 1 liter of LPG has less energy than 1 liter petrol, so even with the most efficient burn and air fuel ratio, you're getting 10-15% worse MPG with LPG. But still for it's price it's worth it.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
5% milage drop, 5% less power
@chadyaknow5690
@chadyaknow5690 3 жыл бұрын
@@platinumsky845 have you done that?
@fkarau
@fkarau 3 жыл бұрын
One litre of gasoline contains the energy equivalent to 8.9 kWh of electricity 1 Litre of propane = 7.08 kWh (kilowatt hours) Hence 1litre of propane has 7.08/8.90= 0.7955056179775=+-80%of the energy that gasoline has. So, unless propane is considerably cheaper than 80% of the price of gasoline it’s a no brainer that there is nothing to be gained. Also consider the conversion cost, loss of power under full acceleration (-20%!) and that huge tank you have to stick somewhere there are more cons to pros to running propane. I had a dual fuel system car and finally ripped it out. I live in Canada and just called a local fuel station that carries auto propane. Feb 6 2021: Propane $1.09/liter. Regular Gasoline $1.32/liter, 1.09/1.32=.828=82.8%. It now costs more to run on propane than gasoline and idiots up there keep saying how much less it cost to use propane but they never do the math to figure out costs per kilometer. That money you want to spend on converting to propane can be much better spent on beer.
@W.Binderei
@W.Binderei 3 жыл бұрын
yea that's the right math. Here is LPG 0,5€/Liter and Petrol 1,5€/Liter so yeah, no brainer either. Just depends on the current taxation policy where you're at
@fkarau
@fkarau 3 жыл бұрын
@@W.Binderei LPG is 1/3 the price of petrol where you are? It would make sense to convert at that price.
@W.Binderei
@W.Binderei 3 жыл бұрын
@@fkarau Western Europe, in one of the top 3 most taxed country in the world...
@charlesdickens6706
@charlesdickens6706 3 жыл бұрын
So it would be pure propane in Canada and cold countries with possibility of a butane component in Summer. Our LP G is 50/50 mix with only a little variation seasonaly . I can see that in orderto ensure that those stupid direct injection turbocharged small engines ( SDI ? )don't wear out too prematurely from oil dilution that LPG would be an advantage . Otherwise change oil every 2000 miles, , maybe .
@MrDziuka
@MrDziuka 3 жыл бұрын
Not only price matter but polluting too, something that petrol and diesel cars users don't really care about. In UK at the moment regular fuel cost £1.3/l and LPG £0.6-£0.8/l . Tank took space from spare wheel. My car takes same amount of LPG and petrol per 100km. In Tokyo 95 percent taxis use LPG. This fuel is for sensible people not for petrol heads.
@stevemacbr
@stevemacbr 2 жыл бұрын
LNG/LPG/CNG/CBG ..... and all the rest of the 'alternative gas fuels', there is NO concise UK MAP or listing of which service stations provide ANY of these 'liquids',... so why the hell bother ??? .
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 жыл бұрын
No it coannot be done at home. If the vehicle in UK is not registered on the Autogas site, it will not be insurable. The only way to get it registered is an enginners report.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 жыл бұрын
@Desmond Bagley Not really. My V8 Disco 2 is on the registered list. Means it installed correctly and safle. Acidents are bad enough without high pressure gas escaping. Go to Eire virtually every car is on LPG.
@philcross7315
@philcross7315 4 жыл бұрын
It can be done at home with the right equipment. I converted my Volvo C70. I rang my insurers to check that they would be able to cover it, and that was no problem. I then changed my insurer on renewal for a cheaper quote, then a month or two later got my system tested in Bridgwater. It appears on the drivelpg website. None of the insurers I contacted were interested in seeing any certificate (you don't get one anyway now, just an entry on the register). I have several local filling stations, and at the moment (5/10/2019) I'm paying between 56/57 pence a litre. My Volvo used to get about 28ish mpg on petrol on a good run, and even though it uses slightly more LPG than petrol, it costs me less than 10p a mile.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 жыл бұрын
@@philcross7315 When did you do it?
@mrFalconlem
@mrFalconlem 4 жыл бұрын
In the USA we have freedom, totally ok to mod car within reason, just don’t go yelling it down the street mate
@philcross7315
@philcross7315 4 жыл бұрын
@@51WCDodge spring 2017.
@RCmadness888
@RCmadness888 3 жыл бұрын
Brits: Gas and petrol.... Americans: ...... dO_ob
@Largo5441
@Largo5441 5 жыл бұрын
LPG system 150 sterlin in the Turkey.
@MrFIZZYMann
@MrFIZZYMann Жыл бұрын
a Turkish Made System Called T.M.S. in U.K. = £1,000 +
@Paul-md8ms
@Paul-md8ms Жыл бұрын
thankfully these days are over LPG is just a dumb decision now , where i live 1 of our 3 company cars was off the road for 2 weeks because of the lack of lpg most service station do not have lpg any more and it has become difficult to get as well
@richardgooding498
@richardgooding498 3 жыл бұрын
So that same system should work with hydrogen fuel as well
@someperson7
@someperson7 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. You have to consider heat tolerances and fuel air ratios. Course I didn't watch the whole thing so maybe they covered that🙂
@Morsificator
@Morsificator 2 жыл бұрын
I'm exaggerating here, but the difference between burning LPG and burning hidrogen is like the difference between burning coal and burning petrol.
@jaggass
@jaggass 2 жыл бұрын
One day LPG will cost as much as petrol due to gas prices rising.
@konni6694
@konni6694 2 жыл бұрын
Common misunderstanding. What you burn in your house isn't LPG, it's natural gas. LPG is a mixture of propane and butane while natural gas is mostly methane. LPG is a byproduct of oil drilling and refining.
@jaggass
@jaggass 2 жыл бұрын
@@konni6694 LPG is ok but not as economical as petrol.
@konni6694
@konni6694 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaggass Well sure you need about 20% more by volume compared to gasoline but what does that have to do with it?
@philipwalton4877
@philipwalton4877 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the same as putting solar panels on your house you’ve lived in for 10 years.. you won’t see any savings for years unless they were on from the start..
@davidrobertson487
@davidrobertson487 Ай бұрын
More power and better fuel economy is a total load of crap. My half ton with a 360 c.i. engine would tow a house on gasoline. On propane it wouldn't get out of it's own way. And the mileage was cut in half. Buy a vehicle with propane already installed, maybe. Get it installed? Don't waste your money.
@itaiitay2472
@itaiitay2472 4 жыл бұрын
tell me the ear im begging you !
@ericoler1
@ericoler1 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve got friends that removed their old log because it was so bad
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 5 жыл бұрын
What an irritating piece of footage.
@dracoseason3784
@dracoseason3784 4 жыл бұрын
A gallon of Lp only has a quarter of the power of gas
@samkirk3662
@samkirk3662 4 жыл бұрын
LPG octane rating is 100. How can it have less power?
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 4 жыл бұрын
@Desmond Bagley In UK there is a lot less Goverment Tax on LPG, so it's a balancing act. Trouble is LPG fill ups are still few and far bettween. I have a Disco 2 V8 on LPG, mainly because I have station within 3 miles were I can get it. Engine does run well on it though.
@mrFalconlem
@mrFalconlem 4 жыл бұрын
All convenience stores in the USA have propane canisters.
@timcooke7105
@timcooke7105 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Kirk , octane isn’t a measure of caloric value, as you seem to think.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
LPG has 80% the BTUs of petrol
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