What do you when you have a bunch of lines and when you go to connect them, a face doesn't show up? Follow along and I'll show you six different ways you can combat this issue. sketchup.com/
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@kenhaley43 жыл бұрын
Here's a trick I always use to find the cases where a tiny or hidden element is breaking up an edge preventing the face from closing: Just go to Styles->edit and check the endpoints option. All the points in the model now appear, including points where a hidden line, tiny segment, etc., is breaking up the face. And then after fixing the problem, you can go back and uncheck the endpoints option. On the other hand, this video gives me a new idea: Often I'm drawing a floor plan or something with closed shapes that I DON'T want filled. in the past, I would just delete the auto-filled face, only to have it automatically appear again after editing another edge on that face (or whatever). In the future, if I have this problem, I'll just insert a tiny line from one edge into the closed area. Auto-fill disabled! Cool! I just have to remember to delete the tiny line when I'm finished editing in that area.
@baiduipod2 жыл бұрын
I can't find this tab Styles->edit
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
@@baiduipod I found it: Default tray/Styles/Edit/Edge settings/tick Endpoints to reveal all 'dem nasty hidden gremlins. (highlights expected and hidden line-end points).
@MickHealey Жыл бұрын
Great tip - thank you. I'm quite keen to have a real issue soon, so that I can try this method for real. Somehow, simulating a fault isn't quite the same, so I'll just have to be patient.
@islandjason Жыл бұрын
great tip, I never thought of that. Nothing worse than not being able to find the problem.
@L_Fleury Жыл бұрын
@@Mrbobinge It wasn't in my default tray and after adding it to the tray, there is no edit option
@gusbert3 жыл бұрын
"Colour lines by axis" can show you when stuff is slightly off if a shape will not close.
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
What? Yet another nugget. This stream is like discovering the mother seam. Thanks.
@keithb97353 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. One could study SketchUp for years and never learn this. Most tutorials are "top down" teaching, which has it's place. This tutorial is "bottom up" teaching, finding common areas of error and showing how to fix them. More please.
@AaronMakingStuff3 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@davidbrown33093 жыл бұрын
Excellent! This video should be required viewing for every Sketchup newbie. Thank you Aaron!
@keggyification3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aaron, That helps a lot. I've suffered most if not all of these issues and have spent hours looking for the reasons.
@dancindog112 жыл бұрын
This is great! It doesn’t always do what you expect. Thanks for clarifying that.
@gvuolde3 жыл бұрын
these solutions are a lot better than the select, delete all and re-create I've done in the past
@themrtimmyboy3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I have struggled many an hour over this problem. Now I'm finally learning!
@user-co9xf4dq2k6 ай бұрын
Wow! Talk about bringing clarity to a situation I have a lot. I'm trying to use SU with much more intentionality. This really helps! Thanks Aaron!!
@Bobmack19512 жыл бұрын
Such a great builder. As an occasional user have often had closure problems, and this suite of solutions nailed it. The Text trick identified the problem.
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
Be sure to search these Comments for Endpoints - another string to your (our) bow.
@MickHealey2 жыл бұрын
Hi Aaron, thank you for this brilliant video. I've been using Sketchup Pro for a few years, but only as a hobby. Occasionally, like now, I have issues closing a face on a complex shape. Using the text tool to see which XYZ points were causing the trouble, was a God send. I had 3 points that were 0.02mm in error ! Please keep making these videos, they are a really useful library.
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
Me too. It has irritated for 14 years. Search these Comments for Endpoints - another gold nugget.
@hfmann1 Жыл бұрын
Wow - I never thought about hidden geometry. Thanks for showing those tips in finding it.
@johngreene8635 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Aaron, awesome tips in this session! Thank you for sharing it.
@Inlearningmode2 ай бұрын
After many tries to close a face, I watched your video and it closed so fast after I deleted some extra geometry. Boom ! It almost shocked me! These videos have made it easy for me to get going with Sketchup because I can search and find answers for a specific problem and your videos are short and to the point. Thanks very much.
@SketchUp2 ай бұрын
Boom! Congratulations, now you're a Certified Face Closer!
@ellawhitehead807710 ай бұрын
Very cool, just learning and this is a big help. Thank you!
@munkeepilot4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!!! I learned a lot...I've experienced all of these over the years but after taking some time off from SU, many I've forgotten. Extremely helpful
@SketchUp4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@HBSuccess3 жыл бұрын
Another good one Aaron - thanks!
@billedwards23882 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately have had some of these issues, the worst was the out of plane. Thank you for these resolutions. They will be an awesome reference for future “challenges”😂
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
Challenges. I call them pain in the...armpit. Be sure to search these Comments for Endpoints - another string to your (our) elbow.
@deborahrobertson-christman28703 жыл бұрын
This was clear and helpful. Thanks.
@stacydecker42682 жыл бұрын
Thanks, litterally figured out wtf was going on with my design seconds after watching only half this video.
@kbsanders3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful information. Thank you!
@kevincotterell36443 жыл бұрын
I used to do all these things. It gets down to good habits. Inference, grouping etc
@billferrol42023 жыл бұрын
Many thanks - frustration now relaxed!
@pipertime12 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and easy to understand.
@isidoraperrie748911 ай бұрын
I think I posted my question regarding this , I found my issue!! Big thank you
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
End-points all highlit, plus xyz dimensions at corners. Gold nuggets to this old Skp hand. Yes, still not read the manual after these 14 years of hobby use. Thanks all.
@rb703832 жыл бұрын
Yes it helped. This is one of things I struggle with. Thx!
@jonfolsom80738 ай бұрын
A revelation. Thanks, Aaron, it's great to have a bit of a checklist when trouble pops up. 9:40
@SamHarrison-fm7ezСағат бұрын
I have a sawtooth roofline with three peaks projecting above and along the parapet. The parapet wall is continuous with the building wall; the rectangle representing the wall and parapet is 4 ft x 37’4.” When I drew the series of lines to be the surface to become a group and then receive texture (vertical corrugated metal) the figure did not close. Then I tried a series of adjacent rectangles and triangles. Then I have seams. I haven’t learned as yet whether seams can be eliminated. (This is in schematics, so that’s not crucial.) I followed you video on manipulating textures with the pins in Texture/Position, but find it difficult to rotate and scale consistently. I tried another idea. I made a large rectangle flush to the building corners at each end and at the right height for the bottom horizontal line (a high watertable) but projecting higher than the sawtooth peaks. I pulled it out less than an inch and then to a foot. With x-ray on, i tried to draw lines on the surface, but the clicks were not staying on the rectangle. No luck. Is there a way to project the roof line onto a surface? Or is there a way to confine the change-of-direction of the line to a surface? As I send, I am using guides to work my way along the parapet and peaks. If this is a problem of interest to others, I would love to see a tutorial, Aaron.
@Oddpaatuben3 жыл бұрын
I also have made geometry where one side is comprised of more than one slightly unparalell lines, and the inner one not connecting at the corner. Its a variant of the "edge sticking into the area where the face is supposed to be" , but the problem is more difficult to find, as there is no broken sides. A working view with lines colored by axis solves this for me.
@kenhaley43 жыл бұрын
I've done that too--it's a good idea. But it doesn't help if the shape is off-axis (maybe rotated 45 degrees or something).
@jimsaake78763 жыл бұрын
Awesome... Needed to see this!
@irwankurniawan17372 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Aaron. This issue frustates me all the time.
@mohinibakhadhyo52913 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@PaulineFerguson Жыл бұрын
Very handy - I seem to draw and cut stuff that's off axis (because I can do the diagonal connecting)... I need to work out how I'm drawing off axis (although I do weird stuff, so that's probably a big indicator).
@jbb54703 жыл бұрын
great tips! I needed this one :^) Thanks for posting!!
@john.843 жыл бұрын
Hello guys You are awesome Thank you for sharing these items GOD bless you
@DennisMathias Жыл бұрын
They oughta have a gap detector..something that would blink red if not connected within a certain settable value. You could adjust this or turn it off.
@pragashgopal47612 жыл бұрын
Great one bro. Thank you.
@Electric-Bob2 жыл бұрын
Aron...Great Tips!!!
@ivanwalker33913 жыл бұрын
Well, this is where I draw the line!
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
And another and another. Scrap. Start again. We've all bin there, but a good line. Thanks.
@donsmith31673 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Hit every one of the ways I've messed up a drawing.. Thanks Aaron Still have a few times where It has stumped me to the point I've had to start over.. Still don't know what happened. ???
@sajit637 ай бұрын
thank you, Aaron. something I tore my hair for.
@divinenations4024 Жыл бұрын
do u have a solution for diagonal geometry that wont fill up?
@allanjgray13 жыл бұрын
Thank's for this.
@AndresLaportaSaez-wh2tv Жыл бұрын
Hi, can you explain how do you to make that precise and optimized movements visualizating the model? it seems like a zoom combinated with orbit. Thank you.
@SketchUp Жыл бұрын
Aaron uses a 3D mouse to navigate in many of his videos.
@ChristianBlueChimp Жыл бұрын
Yeah okay - 1 min of this video saved me from going mad and using another 1 hour to fix something that takes now 1 sec... Thanks :D
@marcellis66162 жыл бұрын
very useful - thanks!
@AssafGurner2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, its been a great help!!!
@DanielDimov3582 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!
@MrGrundle3 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial!
@andrewmurphy6828 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very helpful!
@daviddarcy2052 Жыл бұрын
Again, I learned something new. 👍
@rshawiii3 жыл бұрын
Helpful. What would also be helpful would be some features/extensions that can show you loose geometry. Ideally the outliner would do this.
@scottalanclymer2 жыл бұрын
Statistics shows ungrouped edges. I’ve been finding it quite useful.
@perkadesigner5447 Жыл бұрын
definitely helped Thank You 😃
@JohnColgan.3 жыл бұрын
Your last example is often overlooked in diagnosis, if a shape won't close, the common fix is to redraw each line in turn believing that one of the lines didn't make contact. Remaking the existing 3 lines OUTSIDE of the group will complete the shape & create the face , obviously connecting with your drawn 4tn line!
@AaronMakingStuff3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, I have done that more than one time trying to force something to close!
@rafaelmendoza8103 жыл бұрын
excelente explicacion, gracias por eso, feliz dia
@Jumtoriba7892 жыл бұрын
So helpful sir thankyou
@HiteshChouhan-gd9oi7 ай бұрын
thanks a lot
@Sailing_SY_Melody3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the videos...
@AaronMakingStuff3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching!
@safalabista2 ай бұрын
Why does SketchUp sometimes form a new face even when you draw over previously existing lines? I am going insane trying to fix it.
@andy0ne3102 жыл бұрын
good video, cheers
@xGILOW5 ай бұрын
My worst nightmare: Making a 3D site plan model based on a dwg file which isn't closed properly at all when i place all those lines on a surface
@masood60863 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jcase3 жыл бұрын
Can you clarify your point in the last example. As a novice, this one is an area that I struggle with a lot. You said instead of exploding, "you can click into it and keep them separate." Are you editing the group at that point or is the new line still somewhat separate?
@donsmith31673 жыл бұрын
yes Joe double clicking on a line puts the group into edit mode. Gets confusing sometimes.
@jcase3 жыл бұрын
@@donsmith3167 thanks
@kenhaley43 жыл бұрын
Aaron is presenting two options: (1) If you want to keep the group containing the shape you're trying to close, then click on the group to open it for editing and add the line inside the group. (2) If you don't need the group, use explode to remove it, separating all the elements that were in the group, so that now you can add the line and close the face that way. If that doesn't make sense, you may not understand exactly how groups work. There are many videos on KZfaq explaining groups in Sketchup.
@jcase3 жыл бұрын
@@kenhaley4 that does make sense. Thank you for clarifying
@AaronMakingStuff3 жыл бұрын
Ken got it!
@flipside2592 Жыл бұрын
Nice, but what's the matter with those reverse faces showing as top surfaces ,any fix to this,i face it a lot
@SketchUp Жыл бұрын
That happens when a face is drawn on the ground plane. SketchUp intuits that it will be the bottom of what you're drawing and makes the external face downwards.
@daviddickmeyer52313 жыл бұрын
Does SketchUp have a planarize tool? Is there one available with an extension? And while I’m in the asking mode, how about an extend line tool? And thanks again for this one!
@mearkitek37733 жыл бұрын
Or a fillet with radius zero, an old AutoCAD trick.
@stephanholland61813 жыл бұрын
For flattening something you've drawn, try Eneroth's Flatten to Plane (flattens to Z axis only). For extending lines, drawing perpendicular lines or normals to a face, and much more check out the 1001bit extensions, especially the Pro version, or Didier Bur's Projection and Guide Toys extensions. I use both all the time. The Fredo6 Draw Along extension can lock you into drawing on any plane or any vector and can convert lines to guides and guides to lines.
@daviddickmeyer52313 жыл бұрын
@@stephanholland6181 thanks a lot!
@AaronMakingStuff3 жыл бұрын
I use Thomthoms Vertex Tools and there is a make planar command in there. That is a paid tool, though
@Codywayneh2 ай бұрын
Selecting all lines > right click > intersecting faces > with model - This will solve your issue if you're working in 2D on a single plan.
@danvdgable Жыл бұрын
I'm having an issue closing my face on a curved surface. Any tips for that?
@SketchUp Жыл бұрын
Share your job on our forum (fprims.sketchup.com). Troubleshooting is extremely hard to do in YouTUbe comments.
@richardkleinschmidt23433 жыл бұрын
Often I start with a solid; then add a feature to it and it is no longer a solid. Even the simplest of features can cause a "leak". Any basic techniques you can demonstrate? Thank You I find your Skill Builder tips valuable.
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
Ahah, another "leak" prospector. Thought I was alone. For years I've been drawing lines to progressively isolate the hole. And eventually plug it.
@LamDongview8 ай бұрын
Đúng vấn đề tôi cần giải thích.
@edgespace37772 жыл бұрын
6:06 Nice trick !
@gmg1985 Жыл бұрын
You did NOT explain how to get the label tool to show the XYZ dimensions.
@SketchUp Жыл бұрын
Just click twice! Once to pick the point, then agin to place the label. If you have liced on a point (not an edge or a face) and do not type anyting into the field, it will, by default, show the coordinates of the point.
@alankmiecik79576 ай бұрын
Nice video but did not cover my issue. Open Sketchup today and whenever I draw a rectangle or circle it does not fill in. Worked fine yesterday. I had to log back into Sketchup this morning, hmmmm.
@phucle4753 жыл бұрын
❤
@HiteshChouhan-gd9oi7 ай бұрын
it was life hack for me
@terrywheelock94583 жыл бұрын
I want to be a SKETCHUP GOD! Tank U Tank U Vurry Mussssssh! 😆😜😁🤣👀👍
@joshuayalowitz79583 жыл бұрын
Great video! I do something similar with my middle school class. I considered sharing it with my students until I saw your t shirt. It is funny to adults, but I am certain some parents would complain. fyi
@Rudhamstile3 жыл бұрын
Probably the biggest cause of wasted time in my SU experience- chasing ones tail. It's almost always due to using 2d dwg info which is a shame as autocad is still my preferred way of making a living.
@ArtBQ10 ай бұрын
I was today years old when I found out that a stray line touching an edge in your loop will prevent a face! WHAT???
@jakegogolin55666 ай бұрын
Dumbest shit ever, I’m losing my mind because of this stupid feature.
@baiduipod2 жыл бұрын
this situation make me give up to learn Sketchup, really.
@waterfallhunter9642 Жыл бұрын
At 2:12 is exactly why i watched this video, why would you "take the easy way out" I'm watching the tutorial to learn the right way....
@DarkMoonDroid3 жыл бұрын
6:49 Okay, you just scared me off of using tags.... [Pro-newb]
@DarkMoonDroid3 жыл бұрын
Aside from tags, the only one that has stumped me over the years has been the hidden geometry. And it's still an issue.
@LT728843 жыл бұрын
Stl files are the worst at editing because of so many faces or bad modeling
@AaronMakingStuff3 жыл бұрын
Too true! If I import STLs I generally bring them in as large as I can to avoid small face issues and try to use an extension like Skimp to clean them up and/or reduce polygons
@LT728843 жыл бұрын
@@AaronMakingStuffi wish sketchup pro could export as a quad mesh rather than a triangular mesh for better editing of meshes. Stl format is just a mess with any program but3d printers need it haha. Would be cool if sketchup had a way of doing FEA on parts. That would be handy:)
@crazycutz80722 жыл бұрын
the problem is that this program is not very accurate.. so skewing lines and non-closed gaps is the new normal for Sketchup - i hate this program --- alot
@baiduipod2 жыл бұрын
it's not user friendly with compare with CorelDraw, AutoCAD and other pro CAD software. thanks to this clip.
@gerardalain42593 жыл бұрын
Sketchup sucks !
@Mrbobinge Жыл бұрын
So, does a blunt metal file. It can't be sharpened.
@jaanushiiemae2164 Жыл бұрын
Could someone explain how to get good faces when importing the IFC file to Sketchup? All faces are not uniform and full of hidden geometry what distorts every surface?