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She has a white thing in her hair, my grandma wears them too because of the church she used to go to with my grandpa (he passed away a couple of years ago) this church is a “profética” one ? Like evangelist but there are prophets that pray for you (while possessed by the holy spirit) God uses them to speak to you in “tongues”. My point is I’ve heard and seen and EXPERIENCED this type of voices “possessions” that this prophets perform. IT IS REAL, It happened to me. FUNNY THING? I started to watch your channel a few months ago when I was diagnosed with BPD, ADHD and depersonalization disorder. I still don’t understand what happened to me (doesn’t involve violence or anything) and I’m really into learning mental illness, psychology and understanding how the relation kind-spirit?? Works. THIS VIDEO IS CRAZY FOR ME, since it makes me feel less crazier if that makes any sense. AMAZING VIDEO, I LOVE EWU❤🎉

I saw this comment as soon as I heard that part of the video and remembered the father who was knowledgeable on guns said he re-loaded an empty magazine, thank you!

​@@iveth8047hello, do you think that definitely means the mom is in that church or could it just be a fashion item that she likes to keep her hair out of her face? I'd also like to ask you if you don't mind, when you say BPD do you mean bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder because the acronym can be used for either. I hope you're being supported well by specialists trained in your conditions and also that you have a personal support base of family and friends. I'm not sure if you actively belong to that church and I don't want to offend you however I don't trust any evangelist types. In fact I don't trust organised religion of any sort and I want you to be careful, look after yourself and don't blindly trust someone just because you know they're a Christian. Unfortunately there are shady characters that profess to being good Christians when they're anything but. Take care x

It's interesting ewu, within seconds of seeing this boy talking I said to myself, "he's on the autistic spectrum".

how did they talk with the dead people like wtf

​@@vegasu9418😅 trolling skills level. Savage 😅

This is something I’d see at a pyrocynical video

Except on subtitles.

​@@MaverickCashew5 Who, now?

at first it struck me too how they described it so casually like it was a day they went to tbe beach.

​​@@flawless1upyeah it all made a lot more sense after finishing the entire video. And i truly believe everything that Sonny said about not understanding why he did what he did.

Same

I thought the same x

You’ve never lost a child, have you? My daughter was murdered 6 years ago and to this day, I cannot talk about the event without breaking into tears and totally losing it! So, the interview with the parents was quite disturbing, especially HER MOTHER never even breaking voice when she speaks of her daughter being murdered by her son! There is something strange going on with those two!

Same thing i do

There's a time skip between those two moments.

Because he's Josh-O only for the homies

got that Josh in me

All interrogators are called Josh. Well the one in the previous video I watched was called Josh. '197 IQ Scientist Murder', if you don't believe me.

In the interrogation he sounds like he has a speech impediment, but in the interview he sounds completely normal.

Possession ​@@justinfowler5761

@@justinfowler5761I thought the exact same thing

@@babypluto3679 I thought he had an Asian accent!

Not at all. He sounds devoided of soul and even admited it himself he would probably kill again if released and feels empty. This is what having 0 social life 0 friends and 0 girls does to a mf. Homeschooling was proably to blame. I emphatise with him partially though since I'm also gifted (the opposite of poeple on youtube) and have faced boredom, an educational system that didn't meet my needs, discrimination, isolation and loneliness. Good thing is I was always interested in social sciences as well as law and morals and I am a very moral persnon myself and not as autistic as him.

This was the sentence that got me, too

It broke me

My god that moment was devastating.

I am only 2 min in and have no idea what it means

Oh😮

He clearly has a lot of love to give, it's a beautiful thing to witness

I get this overwhelming feeling that the parents are really good people. The cops did him dirty. It’s so fucked up that they would lie to the VICTIMS of the crime that they would get the chance to be there for their son. While he should be punished and get treatment, he was clearly so off his rocker and disassociated from his surroundings. The cops knew it, but they just want to get the win. They don’t genuinely care about people and rehabilitating them.

It was a great review but sadly his blood son has been 10 minutes down the road from him for the past 4 years and he can’t even speak to him/me but yea great sorry how it’s his son he will always be there!

@@austinbrazzell2451interesting tell us more

Autism and guns don't mix. That's for sure. Kids today seemingly lack respect for the sanctity of life as well. Whether religious or not, you have one life as all of us do. Young people today have become desensitized to human connection to the point that doing something like this doesn't only seem plausible on a mass scale, they would do this to a sibling. Get your kids off of social media, off of computers, off of games, and outside. Join organizations. Go camping, hiking, fishing, hunting, whatever. But don't let them sit inside all day for essentially years. It's unnatural and it manifests in mental illness, similar to some mental issues you see in zoo animals.

exactly this. you hit the nail on the head. i think most folks don't like to think about that - just how close we all are to doing the exact same things that all the "evil criminals" we love to hatewatch on YT have done. it's sorta like how people choose to hate on, for example, homeless people, choosing to believe that it's their fault they've landed in that position, because that's easier than acknowledging that these sorts of things can and do happen to ANYBODY, and there's often no rhyme or reason to any of it. there is only the thinest of lines separating "good" people from "bad" people. we are all capable of doing bad shit, and ppl don't like to think about that.

Don’t take offense to this but does this mental disorder of dissociation make someone dangerous? Are you dangerous?

​@@willowclementine I'm not dangerous, I'm lethal 👽

Yeah thats cause he lost his battle w his demons. What he did was literally demonic shit.

Just seeing this I'd guess the odds are he blacked out in the instance and the truth of his experience is somewhat as he presents it. But in cases where such apparently "high IQ" individuals are involved it's also interesting to consider the possibility that he may have had a motive that he knows nobody else would accept, believe, or understand. Not that he wasn't mentally ill in any case. But that would mean he did to some extent fake his presentation afterwards - emphasize it was impulsive and nothing meditated. Meanwhile he could "know" exactly why he did it in his twisted mind. Not that it makes any more sense to anyone else, but it's just possible.

That is because they are empathetic and normal. The mother is bonkers, detached from normal human behavior, and disassociated from the human race...just like you know who.

@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf lol mother and son are a piece of work

It's kinda weird/planned out-

Mental illness be like that

Yeah, real smart one 👌

@@DaRealKing303wasn’t a smart move. But hard to just act like he isn’t clearly extremely intelligent. He’s 16 and has a full time job with GED. Could have lived a life that only 5-10% of people live, but instead he chose the psycho route. Smart kid, bad decisions. Definitely not a dumb kid.

@@BenDover-qs7vsHe didn’t “choose” the psycho one. It happened at random, like he snapped. He didn’t intend to cause his family so much pain, he just broke. And that caused him to do something that he can never take back.

His bones went cold and he did some evil shit. The fact is some are just bad eggs. Its not their fault but it doesn't change the facts.

It's still bizarre to hear them especially her talk like it's some quicky thing that happened and them just reminiscing about it like you would a night out or something

Autism and guns don't mix. That's for sure. Kids today seemingly lack respect for the sanctity of life as well. Whether religious or not, you have one life as all of us do. Young people today have become desensitized to human connection to the point that doing something like this doesn't only seem plausible on a mass scale, they would do this to a sibling. Get your kids off of social media, off of computers, off of games, and outside. Join organizations. Go camping, hiking, fishing, hunting, whatever. But don't let them sit inside all day for essentially years. It's unnatural and it manifests in mental illness, similar to some mental issues you see in zoo animals.

​@@mariamaria2751 I thought the same, perhaps this interview was conducted months or years after and they've managed together to overcome this traumatic event. They had each other for emotional support.

@@deebest4202 It was at the very least 8 months later because the dad was saying he couldnt taste food for 8 months. But I would guess this is a very recent interview since it was conducted for this video and the crime happened in 2017.

that line hit me really hard

It wasn't advice. He is thinking out loud. He stating his opinions about invidia and amd gpus. I talk to my self sometimes or rather speak my thoughts. My brain tend focus in more on that train of thought especially there's a lot I'm thinking about partially. He was emotionally distressed and he finding comfort in the thoughts of his hobbies.

Did you not watch the Video? They said that this talking to himself behaviour was to cope with the stress of killing his sister. He was detatching himself from the murder but if you get the later statements and his parents information it clearly seems that he has extreme regret for that murder and and he is actually able to understand the feelings of others and feels regret for his actions because he killed her and not because it landed him in prison. He even is completly open with everything because he wants to suffer for that murder (also selfharming). He is not like all those other killers. He is someone that has suffered threw abuse in childhood and got cooked in the brain. I dont really feel symtpathy for the Explore with us killers but this one was really sad.

@@maxweel2715 Mindless sheep.

@@jedrickgonzales4388 I sometimes talk out loud to myself and it is more likely when I have mental trauma. I normally, keep talking to myself to a minimum and when no one is around. Usually, it happens because of frustration. If I have something dealing with recent mental trauma, I'll start talking to myself like someone with tortes. Again, I don't try to do it in-front of people. I think the poor dude had the biggest impulse of his life, got committed to it, then realized how bad of an idea it was once he was lost in the mix.

The mother is clearly the one to blame here. She appears to have even less social awareness than her son, it would have been a nightmare growing up with a mother like that, it is no surprise that he has no familiarity with social norms and behaves so oddly.

Can also be the case of how demonic possession is real plus evil people gave always been evil you just never knew they can do it

@@Bambotbno you completely missed the original point. This is mental illness not mumbo jumbo magic.

jayyy4491 What’s the diagnosis? Are you just putting it to the side as ‘mental illness so you don’t have to acknowledge the some people can just be evil? I feel like diagnosis’s like psychopathy, narcissisism, etc. are just unproven (yes I’ve seen the brain scans, and find them highly unconvincing) substitutes for the concept of evil people existing.

​@@Bambotb, the fact that you just watched a really smart CHILD have a mental health breakdown, and made the decision to blame it on supernatural forces is why it's so dangerous to not divide church and state. People have been blaming mental illness on demons since we started believing in higher powers, and even though we have a much more thorough understanding of the human mind, you have chosen to fall back on archaic beliefs because humanity's capability for evil actions is too scary to you. That's like trying to "pray away" autism, and only does more harm to the person struggling and the people around them. Falling back on superstition does nothing to help HEAL actual issues. Please, do better.

@@araleana go see interviews with exorcists prieets if you think they are lying from every corner of the world you are the psycho one…also evil exists he could just be evil there is no other cause than these 2 unless he was on drugs and he clearly was the

He seemed to be speaking with a customer from his job to me talking about how to fix or get a new computer.

@@mollydelacy9007What he did is called "scripting". Autistic people do this to practice social exchanges and conventions. He was notably talking about games and computers, an interest. This is not psychosis.

@@maggiek558I don’t think we can say it’s one or the other based on a tiny snippet of footage.

He isn't insane. Insane people don't act this calm. He's probably got a textbook case of psychosis.

​@isabelledoyle8567 I know it's just semantics, but I'm pretty sure the definition of insanity is pretty much the presence of severe mental illness. The dude decided he wanted to kill his whole family, I would consider that insane fs

Demonic possession is Real.. people obviously can have mental disorders that contribute to altered behavior, reasoning , judgment , perception, behaviors , but one cannot discount the spiritual factor that can and has been at work in some cases… whwt may manifest as a physical or physiological condition can come from many sources , emotional, physical illness, issues affecting mental health , but also influence of good or evil can I feel , most def. In real ways , impact a person and contribute to or control one’s actions if a person is affected in such ways. I like your comment regarding your feelings related to the patient you’re referring to , it’s evident you were able to have good discernment to see beyond what was on the surface and obviously , of what the person was capable of , but you were still able to see any decency and heart despite what was done .. That takes a good heart imo to see into,, I do agree with you in there being a reason regarding a spiritual aspect, I’d def. Not just almost believe that is possible , but to know it Is., just as there is good in this world there’s also evil and if evil can influence people as powerfully as it does on so many levels , I’d hope one woukd certainly know that God is real , is much more powerful than any evil , that there’d be a desire to seek and know the lord , especially upon seeing the ways of this world and the influence of such horrible evils.. demon possession is very real .. but anyone belonging to the lord cannot be overtaken by any such entity .

@@breAnnasmamait’s just a mental disorder, not a demon

​@@breAnnasmama And by "real" you mean?

@@breAnnasmama Sorry to break it to you, but the supernatural doesn't exist. It's an interesting idea that we'd like to believe exists since it sometimes explains things that are hard for people to understand, but that doesn't mean there isn't an explanation for those things. The mind works in complex ways and just because we don't fully understand it doesn't mean things like demonic possession are real. In our society something has to be proven true to be accepted as real and there is no concrete evidence for the supernatural.

I was thinking the same thing re demon possession. What solidified that theory for me was when his father, or was it his mother?, said that when he was sitting in the living room hé spoke in a voice they did not recognise along with the fact thàt Sonny, himself, said he can't explain why he did it. He also stated that he basically felt like someone or something else had control of his body and to him it felt like he was watching on from outside of his body. These are all classic signs of demonic possession. It does not mean that Sonny is evil or was into anything to do with the occult étc. Like others have said, this is one case where I truly feel empathy for the killer. It is quite obvious he loves his family and that he adored his sister. Truly a tragic case for all of those involved.

Yeah like he is discussing about computer things with another person.

That’s what I thought

As an IT specialist, I can tell you that he's speaking nonsense. He just brings up random companies/technologies/abbreviations and tries his best to sound like an expert, but he's barely making any sense. I highly suspect he was acting for the camera to fight for that insanity plea.

Yesss. I literally thought a detective had walked in.

Yeah, I didn’t think he sounded sane at all tbh.

That goes for voters too. 😉

@cxff33 well there goes the far left and the far right votes then

I also don’t get how his parents are mad he didn’t get a lawyer or a public defendant when HE KILLED HER SISTER WTF??? like that kid needed to be throw in jail whether they like fit or not

​@@numi8985 it sounds like you haven't been exposed to this sort of mental illness. I agree that he should be in a controlled environment but it's important to consider the state of someone's mind when a crime is committed. His family could tell he had a mental break, unfortunately he had access to firearms. It's tragic their daughter lost her life over it.

​@@numi8985the sad part is that police officers can try to take advantage of vulnerable populations and ignorance to get people to waive their rights for proper representation. And that's the thing he was a young sick kid that did something heinous. It still doesn't mean that officers should engage in unethical practices for the sake of a conviction

This kind of trash never recovers. He should not be allowed to reproduce or get out ever.

because its his fault. may ashley rest in peace at the fault of these parents.

​​​​@@ashb2995?? The responsibility is for his own. Sonny was already a grown man... Didn't you watch the whole video? There wasn't any motivation from him to did it. Probably his biological father who abandoned, but his stepfather, mother and sister were nice...

BECAUSE HE HAS UNTREATED DISABILITIES YOU CUCK@@liablack2320

​@@liablack2320A 16 yr old kid is not hardly a grown man , if you're talking about the incident time frame! Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions but I'm trying to understand!

They probably get hundreds of calls a day, lots of them prank calls or nothing major. When something serious is actually happening they might not take it seriously at first as they get so many per day

@@andrewpayne5093 This makes a lot of sense.

It's their training. Their job is to find out what, where, who, etc. They need to find this out so the first responders coming to the scene have some idea what they're showing up to. If somebody calls and days "My son shot my daughter" and the operator says, "Oh my god, cops are on the way! Good luck!" that would put everybody in a worse situation. They NEED to know where, does he still have the gun, is anybody else shot, does anybody else have a gun, who else is in the house, and these questions are more important than feelings. When they're asking questions and giving guidance on a call like this, they've already sent cops and EMS. It's not like they're waiting to see if they need to based on the answers to the questions. And, unfortunately, sometimes they have to be kinda dicks about it because the person they're talking to is panicking, and at that moment, getting the pertinent information to prepare first responders and give guidance to the caller is more important than being nice to them or empathizing. It's a really tough job. There are bad ones, for sure, but most of these you hear that seem "mean" or "uncaring" are simply people doing their job the way they were trained to get all the info they can before first responders arrive, and also to give guidance to the person on the phone.

She was very beautiful, was he very controlling of her? It seems he was a bit too close to her.

That’s very sad 😢. She seemed very sweet and he seemed very very mentally Ill. I’m surprised the parents didn’t see any mental illness prior. He definitely doesn’t speak and behave with normal social skills.

Im sorry for your loss. This crazy disturbed society is heart breaking.

@@bennym5244Why would your mind even go there. Why would you even ask her friend this. Dude what’s wrong with u

I am so sorry for your loss this much of been hard to watch. So sorry

He was attracted to.her it seems like

Yes, the first thing he said was that she broke up with her boyfriend. I instantly knew he had feelings for her, maybe he had abused her.

dawg whats wrong with these replies...

​@@ica6399they must know what they is talking about

​@@ica6399Everyone thinks they're a sleuth now

Yea I have borderline personality disorder and I have it and it’s not pleasant

@@katiebearksame it's there 24/7 and i can't recall most of my days, especially busy ones

Just like Jesus, he loves you no matter what, just need faith in him, he loves you so much

ol country boy adopted this family wholeheartedly.

Sadly the heartfelt love & respect wasn’t reciprocated .

This kid was suffering from demonic possession.

and sat him down and stayed in dad mode even after pulling the trigger to kill him twice 😢. It's heartbreaking what these parents went through

They raised that kid, they are responsible and deep down they know it, by pretending he's not a bad person they are absolving themselves of any responsability. If they start blaming him and admitting he's not a good person they acknowledge that they failed in raising him. Unfortunately that's what can happen when stupid people get the responsability of raising a highly intelligent kid.

I don't know that I'd take parenting advice from someone who can't even spell responsibility right

@@ena1485 You'll have the right to judge my English when you'll be able to even just speak my own language as well as i write in English. English isn't my first language, i mostly taught myself and yet i write it better than 90% of the English speaking people on the internet.

​@@vee1766what a stupid thing to say..blaming the parents for their sons mental illness....get a grip!

The "Step"mother is simply trying to explain it away it works for her but not for the rest of society¡

She sounds as crazy as her son.

Mental gymnastics.

@@dench2695do you have kids?

​@@dench2695😂😂😂JES!!

@@dench2695 No, they sound like parents trying desperately to hold on to the only child they have left. I can't even imagine what they have been through and neither can you unless you have personally been through it yourself. How they cope with it is their business. I hope one day they can truly heal.

yeah that doesnt seems right at all and suspisous

So yall wanted him to kill his son

So yall wanted him to kill his son

So yall wanted him to kill his son

Probably on autism spectrum or he has schizophrenia?

It was probably unnoticed because it was at rest, with no pressure or stress to bring it to the surface. I certainly know better than this, but this is one of the more shining examples I've seen to attest for the existence of spiritual oppression or possession of killers at the time of their crimes. I am merely musing and speculating here, and wouldn't be doing that except that I have known friends whom I consider utterly trustworthy who say they have witnessed oppression, and say it is not to be taken lightly.

the parents seem very aware of how unusual their son was, but they weren't as aware as they should've been to openly have guns available in the house.....I'm sure they inwardly regret that loss of awareness.....sad...

​@@lindseycohn6849It isn't really a loss of awareness if they were never aware in the first place. Being aware that he's odd and being aware that he's liable to kill them all are two very different things.

I have autism and literally nobody in my life noticed until I was 31 years old. I was talking to someone one day and they told me I showed a lot of signs of it. I took some tests and it turns out I'm way on the spectrum. My life finally made sense after learning what a lot of the symptoms are for adults and children both. I'll never recover from the social isolation though. The damage is done and I'm speedrunning life as a hermit.

i think she shouted his name in the 911 call. and then she prob lost consciousness with 8 bullet holes in her chest probably puncturing the aorta or vena cave which is a death sentence usually 😢

@@Italian69Boi that was the mom who shouted his name, ashley was too far gone at that point, sadly

I just hope her spirit moved on from this world, and is in a better place. I'm sure she forgave him, as that was the aspect of her personality and her inner being.

@@FormlessPersuasion not likely; unless you think the universe exists in a fantasy. The truth of the universe is that she decomposed into the component molecules and the elements that made up those molecules eventually ended up dispersed throughout the Earth and possibly some even floated out into the stratosphere. Some parts of those molecules could easily be a part of you now. Such is the way of the universe.

@@retniretep9477 Thanks for sharing your subjective opinion about that subject.

lmfao, DP/DR is not going to make you kill somebody. if you relate to this, you don't have DP/DR you have violent homicidal tendencies. you obviously don't understand the difference between derealization and an actual loss of grip on reality and you saying stuff like that makes us with DP/DR sound like violent people

My girlfriend has it pretty bad. Not so much anymore since shes been living a happier life but beforehand, she would become completely numb. And i mean that emotionally and physically, she felt no emotion, and could feel no physical pain. Its a crazy thing to watch happen.

I agree 100%. I think this is a true story of mental or personal issues. He doesn't seem to understand why he did it, but still wants to figure scientific notations out. What he did is wrong and he knows it is but is still worried about the scientific ways on the notations he can not work out. I would love to hear interviews with him later on

​@@jesifetters4918no kiddin 😒 he reminds me kind of someone real close to me. Maybe I watch too much of this stuff...🤦‍♀️

demons bro, demons lol

Most murders and mass shooting are exactly mentally ill.

its cute that you assume people are incapable of this shit if not for "demons" @@uberhuber7903

I think the OP is talking about this channel being the best out of other KZfaq channels, not Dr. Phil 😅

The point still stands that it's not very many. Dr. Phil has nothing to do with this interview.😂

@@genericamerican7574 everyone has to try n take away from the big guys. keep up the good work EWU

@@genericamerican7574what do you not get about "KZfaq channel"? This has nothing to do with TV… of course big productions can and will get interviews! But getting exclusive interviews with the families/victims or the perpetrator is very very rare and speaks volumes about the quality and the professionalism of a KZfaq channel!

Write a lovely little note for her 🥰 she will probably keep that forever

Nice

The actual victim was shot 8 times with a .45

​@@Communistsarentpeopleif someone murders your child are you not a victim of loss?

@@CommunistsarentpeopleI can respect that you want Ashley acknowledged as the true victim, but they are victims too. they lost two children in very different, awful ways.

EWU has paid their dues.. They are excellent entertainers and deserve everything and more they have worked so hard for! They are masters of KZfaq True crime!

Not fragile but protective, the mind blacks out things that might be able to harm you, But many times it dosent work, so you end up with, as an example soldier's getting PTSD

I've seen things suggesting that his high iq kind of overloaded his brain. I have a 160 iq, and im not robotic, etc. Im actually pretty normal. I don't think his high iq had anything to do with it, but it's always suggested.

Really hard to believe someone with "'160 iq" is saying "and" after a comma. @@poutinedream5066

he's talking to someone who isn't there about their windows 10 computer he's snapped he literally sees a person and hears them talking to him

he had plenty signs look at him he acts like robot he far gone looks like he has few diffrent mental issues has no real feelings he not in the world just observing init not participating init

There are millions of diagnosis that they can give him, yet again not understand why it happened. He was possessed as his father said. Sonny also described it in exclusive interview, but what I find really weird is that they cut it off. He only said that it was a snap and two seconds later, they cut it off. I guess it's easier to give someone a diagnosis and jump all around with assumptions than actually believe possession of evil is possible. But the thing in law world, court, police, etc... there is no possession, in other words, they will never ever accept possession as a valid reason to an event that occured which just proves some things that I will not go into.

@@itscarlito Possession isn't real. If you want to believe in the super natural that's cute in all but it doesn't have a place in reality.

​@@gratedradish6699 We can only say it's not pvroven by science, as there are no means to test it. We know too little about our mind and soul to claim it

@@gratedradish6699 No. This is reality. But I do not choose to live in your reality. I am sorry honey but that is the truth. It is very much possible but most of the people cannot comprehend that fact which is alright. Not everyone is meant to progress.

The family smiling when talking about this mess is scary stuff. Ashley was suppose to have a 'dark sense of humor, very dark' which is super scary.

Reading way too much into it I think lol

She is lame, totally. Supporting the monster who killed your daughter? Just a big W T F !!!

Everyone deals with grief in their own way...

​@@someone-ji2zbThank you, I hate when people do this

@@ipassingthrough I guess we are in the vast minority considering her upvotes I personally will never understand why people seek to inject the worst case scenario into everything without actually sitting back and thinking about the situation first

he has an inner voice which apparently majority of people don't have

@@AkitaMix Don't the majority of people have an inner voice? I do this all the time for problem solving; might seem crazy but it's just a different form of visualization. Some people draw graphs, some talk to themselves.

​@@xhan1167just Googled it. Only 30-50% of people has it.

Yes this is a very American problem. A child only has to get angry and lose control once to create a disaster. A 16 year old is still a child.

Do you know Ashley’s birthdate?

@@colombianita572 I definitely do not!

@colombianita572 Pretty weird thing to ask dude

@@kinseybruno5920She probably wanted to know for astrological reasons.

That’s just heartbreaking to hear. Not that her life would be worth more or less depending, but she just has such a sweet look about her and it’s only more heartbreaking to hear how much people seemed to appreciate her. What a tremendous loss. God.

Lol cool. Go write a letter to him

Possession

​@@ghostfrieza2904what letter should be written though? 🤔

sorry but you "appreciate" it? 😅 he murdered his sister

48:24 the killer’s own words that his parents still refuse to accept.

THANK YOU! The amounts of time society and services try to shame you for asking for help is disgusting. 'You're fine, you're okay'. NO. From the get go it was obv he had Aspergers-his parents are intelligent, why ignore blatant aspects of your son? 'We don't want to label him' Ohh you mean you don't want a label to your son.

This hits hard for me... my dad says I "grew out" of my autism as a kid. I'm high functioning, with major anxiety. It feels so discrediting to hear him say I don't have autism when that's literally how my whole childhood upbringing was based around. He has it in his head that autism is shameful and debilitating all of the time. That's not it at all. We go through phases like anyone else, just nobody notices because we feel like a burden or dismissed when we try to explain everything going on in our head.

Your dad sounds like an idiot. Autistic people are cool af. ✌️💕🌻

Well said

This right here!!! One of my former friends has a pretty severe mental illness that causes her and her family a tremendous amount of pain, but she's told me point blank she doesn't get help because she's also brilliant and "the brain" of her family. So the narrative is "well, she's obviously fine" when no...she is NOT fine. To a lesser degree, I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until my late 30s because i didn't struggle in school, outwardly. Because I'm "smart" when I did struggle I was just told I want trying hard enough. I spent my entire life hoping something would "take me out" because being a person was SO hard for me, in my mind, "i shouldn't be here" It was fckng ADHD the whole time! As soon as I started treatment it was the first time I did NOT want to unalive myself in my entire life because I could just...DO things.

What? He literally said he knows it will happen again if he’s let out. He does not deserve rehabilitation. His sister does not deserve for him to be out. Additionally, other people that suffer from psychosis and harm people are not given the same empathy as you all are giving him. What’s the difference?

@@brrrrrrrrino he obviously experienced a psychotic episode. psychosis can be treated with therapy and medication. hopefully he'll be re-evaluated at some point down the line. big difference wit him is that his insight is intact, something which isn't always the case for people with psychotic disorders

Wow, for me it was the best part. What’s done was done and there’s no changing that. Only the future can be changed. To me, the evidence points toward him being legitimately mentally ill and he recognizes that the most important thing is preventing future violence. To do that, he has to say “lock me up” because anything short of that would be a selfish and likely dangerous act.

If he was a real angel he would have done it to himself instead of his sister.

@@aerystargaryenii2565 i mean... he tried in the detention centre technically

@@milktoast56 "tried" It aint that hard especially if you are actually mentally loose or drowning in guilt as everyone seems to think this guy was.

For me it's when the mother said "he's all that I left of her" with her emotion even though she remains quite calm the whole interview.

It makes me scared cause I've experienced derealization and depersonlization, and it is extremely weird. I got it while driving once and kept having this strange thought of wanting to ram the guard rail . It's like I knew logically I would die but the urge to do it was extremely strong. The only thing that probably stopped me was God's grace and the fact that my mom was trailing me because we were selling the car she was in. I remembered looking down and thinking, "Who's hands are those?" while I was driving. I had no sensations at all, and it felt like I was in a hyper-realistic 1st person video game. Even the colors where hyper vibrant and sounds were kinda trippy, like tunnel hearing is the only way I can describe it, and it's not even accurate enough to describe the feeling and sound. My memory was shot as well. I somehow had to ask my mom to drive in front of me to get me to the destination, one I had been to over 1000 times. I believe every word he said and the confusion he had about why he did it or lack of reason ffs sounds similar to how I felt when trying to describe to my mom why I wanted to hit the guard rail. I called her cause I got scared for a minute lol, then I realized I must be having some sort of episode and I just tried to focus on not panicking and tried to just give it time 😅

Man mental health is important and scary

​@@ImTJandMJThe fact you think "gods grace" will stop you from your crazy urges is a huge warning sign. You need to seek REAL help

@kennysnow7647 I'm getting the help I need (professional help) but, I lean on God in Good and bad times, and I say gods grace because he must have been over me that day for me to have made it back home safe in the mental state I was in. I understand religion and spirituality is diffent for everyone and some do not believe so to each is own. High stress brings on my depersonlization, though, so now that I know this I am able to better and I know to seek help right away if my thought become abnormal. I just feel bad for the people who don't know what's going on and simply act on their impulses.

@@Zeft64 I agree, we literally have to tend to our minds as we do our bodys or they too can become 'sick'.

Always a major red flag

maybe because he was too advanced for regular classes

Drug induced?

​@@citydoener69not necessarily, sometimes people just come with a few screws loose. Not trying to be mean, just don't know how to better word it.

I am not writing this to offend you in any way, hopefully you won't think I'm being rude. But most of the symptoms you just said are not actually related to DPDR. Speaking of yourself in third person, having no taste and not being able to express emotions is not Depersonalization. With DPDR you are completely aware that your experience of being spaced out or numb is not reality. Therefore you would not refer to yourself as "He/she" or "male/female". You might feel a sense of unfamiliarity or fear when saying "me" or "I", but being so distant from yourself that you genuinely see yourself as another human is not DPDR. Besides from having had chronic Depersonalization for 15 years, I work as a psychologist and psychotherapist specializing in dissociation. I wouldn't be comfortable lining out other possible causes for these symptoms, all I can say is that those listed symptoms are not rooted in DPDR. If a patient with DPDR drinks a glass of apple juice blindfolded, they would be able to identify the drink with a 100% certainty, even though they have an experience of "not being able to taste".

Funny you should mention the vision. I have autism and dissociate in some moments. One sign that gets me to snap out of it sometimes is when I notice that I look through people. I know they are there but I am seeing the thing that should be behind them if it's an environment that I am familiar with. Strange stuff

I started dissociating as a child due to abuse, it was my brains way of trying to protect me. I don't know if these things happen in different degrees because I've never had it happen to the point that I've done something to harm myself or others while in that state, or ever even had the desire to do so. But I absolutely get the watching it happen stuff. Iwhen I go back to memories of things that were very traumatic it's not like other memories it's like I'm watching a film. I can talk about these horrible instances of physical and sexual abuse, of my husband's death as well, like I'm recalling a plot from a movie or a book. It's definitely different from recalling upsetting or other bad memories where I did not dissociate. For me it's like I just go completely numb. No emotions, no physical sensations. I'm watching it happen to me like i'm someone else. But I guess that's why I never had any urges, because I completely shut down. It's like I lose the ability to think it do anything. Like I'm inside a body someone switched off so I'm in there but even if I wanted to or tried I couldn't do anything until that state passes and I'm back. I had to go to therapy for a few years because of some PTSD and the anxiety it brought. I'd suddenly be back in the memory and back in that locked in state where I was helpless to change it. Thank God that doesn't happen anymore. I'm very proud to say I have t had a panic attack for 11 years now. The last time I really dissociated was due to my husband's sudden out of the blue (for me at least) suicide. I barely remember those first few months still, almost 8 years later now. It was the longest I ever went, before that it would be during the abuse it during the traumatic act but I stayed in this mostly dissociated completely detached state for months til my friends finally came to my home and physically made me start living my life again. All in done was stay in bed basically. I had to move in with family for help because I was a stay at home mom and we lost our home and vehicle after he passed. Thank God I had them to help me at that point. I would have been on the street. Sorry for the life story guys b

Killers who suffered legitimate mental breakdowns and other circumstances like severe abuse, it really is pure tragedy. The brain controls *literally everything* and when something malfunctions on such a level, damage to the brain is done by external circumstances, etc... there's virtually nothing that reasonably could have prevented it. We don't know enough about the mind to solve the problem, our social/healthcare safety nets aren't robust enough for early (or any) intervention, and it can happen just so unexpectedly. It really is just pure tragedy. And to lose a child, TWO children, is devastating to a parent- let alone the grim circumstances. Heartbreaking is the only word to come back to.

​@@dormantlime215 Lisa Montgomery is such a good example of how mental illness and trauma can perpetuate pain. She experienced nothing but torture since her childhood, and authorities were informed about her abuse on 3 different ocassions, but did nothing at all. CPS knew when she was a toddler; the police knew when she was a teenager; and a judge heard her mother testify about the abuse in court. NOTHING was done to protect Lisa or prosecute her captors/abusers. It's no wonder that she developed severe mental illness and slaughtered a woman. IMHO, she absolutely should NOT have been executed. A person who has known nothing but severe torture should be considered not guilty by reason of insanity, and cared for in an institution. I really hope EWU does an episode on Lisa's life. It's a compelling case.

Yeah, I turned myself in to jail once, and it was worth it, because I needed the help. The hateful people in my lives always said I was stupid for turning myself in, while the loving ones understood that I did what was right. It's crazy how prideful some people can be. Those who think of themselves first tend to hate those who do the right thing after wrong choices, because they would never change themselves. But loving people who care for others, they see the value in people who want to change. It's great. His parents are great people, and the fact that he keeps himself there to protect them is so inspiring and relatable.

​@@radicalturkey that won't do much long-term

@@radicalturkey Such political nonsense for you to bring into this. He could have grabbed a butcher's knife and stabbed her 50 times and his father would not even have heard anything because knives make no sounds. Stop trying to use a tragedy to score stupid political points .

I also got weird vibes from her

Oh wow where was this at? This is astounding. Of course they didn’t hear that because to them it’s an open/ shut case. The parents were a little odd. Especially the mom being so excited to tell her story about her daughters “morbid humor.” Too weird.

@@candacegutherie 27:57 is where it's at. It's mumbled and hard to make out.

yeah and the scratch he did on his neck right after was the ONLY time he did that. I dont think his outcome would change though, as even he said he doesn't want to be out of jail and around his loved ones.

Because they are only interested in collecting evidence that will bolster their case. Exculpatory or mitigating evidence will be overlooked, ignored, misinterpreted or outright suppressed. Always exercise your rights to a lawyer to hopefully keep this from happening.

Because arrest and conviction quotas are the only motivation.

I’ve seen it myself and looked into the science behind it. Apparently when you’re in fight or flight mode your pupil dilate to full size which creates a completely dark look in and around the eyes.

I don’t think it makes sense that someone would have the same look in their eye before taking their lives as when taking loved ones’ lives. I find it so overly simplistic to point to “a look in their eye” when talking about a crime but even if you were to do that, it’s usually to describe someone with nefarious intentions or void of emotion. A boy out to take his own life is neither of those things. It sounds like he was just feeling utterly hopeless which can reflect on the outside as you saw.

With all these cases, there eyes always have dark circles....just like the Hellywood movies have on evil or possessed people. So sad. Rip angel 🕊🌹🍂 God bless 👑🙏🕊💞

Many different disorders can share some of the same symptoms but are completely different disorders. Dark circles around the eyes can come from many different: two causes are insomnia, severe depression or anemia due to not eating. Appearing emotionless can be caused by severe depression, schizophrenia, autism or being in shock, None of these conditions are related despite having the same symptom. It is similar to sneezing; this can be caused by a cold, flu or an allergy. None of it has anything to do with homicide. What it does tell you is that the person is showing a symptom that indicates something is wrong and that somebody needs to get to the bottom of it to get them help if they haven’t already done so.

Demonic possession 👹

And to forgive him and love him regardless. I am not capable of such understanding.

@@cdes1776 To be honest, I think most people (if not all) would have to actually witness someone going through psychosis or something similar in order to (maybe) understand how it literally seems like that person was hijacked and wasn't actually there themselves. It's not something they can control; they're literally going absolutely insane. But I do get why you may have a hard time understanding how they were so forgiving.

I was going to reply, but you said exactly what I was feeling. I feel so bad for them. I don’t fall for any of this stuff normally, but if that wasn’t genuine, we should be worrying about humans rather than AI.

The only reason I feel so strongly that it is genuine and not complete act because it’s exactly how I would deal with it. I would be horrified to lose my son after just losing my daughter like that it wasn’t him. How could you be angry with him is what I ask.

@@cdes1776I guess because he is not normal and they knew

You met her?

@@lemonke5341 can you read? Ashley deserved life.

their lack of emotion . they were so fake . they didnt care about their kids.

@@meganwynn372 I agree that there's something very abnormal about them. They are not well adjusted individuals and a highly intelligent child raised by such parents in such an environment is a ticking bomb.

yea the mom describing the situation pissed me off she loved this attention@@meganwynn372

Yeah honestly the awareness to acknowledge the fact is not safe it is, truly heartbreaking

Pretty sure it was a act.

"cries in american"

@@grdkgameplays1496 What act you silly buffoon. This is the most honest suspect I have ever seen. The guy was forthcoming from the start rather than act and hope it minimizes his responsibility/reduce his sentence, and he is now stating that he is not comfortable been released lest he disassociates again and hurts another family member, and your silly butt is talking about an act. If he wanted to act, he will be acting to his own best interest not the other way round

what do you mean@@grdkgameplays1496

Do not express sorrow for these types of foolish parents. They allow their children access to firearms to be potential mass shooters Luckily for the rest of us in this case, the shootings happened only within their own family and not in a public where anyone of us could be victims

@@kokoyaro just because you got shitty parents does not mean they are foolish.

I agree it’s generally a horrible idea to outfit your children with guns, but show some humanity these people are good people

Possession is real. I know it’s hard to believe but I PROMISE YOU, It’s real and I’ve seen it, experienced it and had to live through it. I found my faith and my life has changed immensely (for the good)

It’s simply a chemical imbalance in the brain 🧠

You don't have to believe in it for it to be true.

@@ChristianJew1god isnt real neither is possesion ur delulu seek help

​@@ChristianJew1yeah well possessing may be true but that dude was not possessed and whether are you were not a suspect as well

You never know with pictures. They are biased to look nice. Even a family of aliens would know what a good family photo should look like.

I have a feeling he may have liked his sister a bit _too_ much. He may have got denied and rejected and thus we have the issues right now. Or they could have been reciprocated and her leaving home was jarring for him causing this disassociative and deoresonalizing episode.

Cheek French kissing

@@redcell9636 Interesting. What gives you that impression?

@@american_cosmic How close they are and what seems like a hidden, until the incident, trauma response. He had basically a psychotic break, probably due to separation anxiety. The father left and went back to his home country of South Korea when they were young. He seemed to have leaned on his sister. Since his mental faculties were accelerated, for a lack of a better term he may have misconstrued certain feelings or emotions as more than just familial. His sister leaving for college and having a boyfriend could have put some kind of mind-poison in the back of his psychee. However it did seem that his accelerated acumen could have stunted his social skills and ques. There is a good chance he wanted to or had acted upon baser urges. Remember the part about describing "humans" but in a detached way and how "humans" have unpredictable responses? There is a goos chance him and his sister trauma bonded, and a good chance he wanted to _bond_ a whole lot more than she did. This is mostly a "gut" feeling about it.

he's autistic

Maybe a demon ghost got to em. Idk man crazy stuff

You'd think he'd be used to that stuff, being a country boy and all

Nothing a country Boi can’t handle!

The child didn't intend to kill him. He was suffering a psychotic episode. I'd hope you'd man up and support your kid in the same situation.

@@SaintShion”wlehhhhh”

@@dummekunst7708”man up and let your son put a gun to your chest and pull the trigger” 😂😂

Fully agree with this comment with all of my energy!!!!

The subtitles were wrong at least 2 dozen times. 1 of the times, it was inaccurately narrated then he brain stormed on these inaccuracies. What a nightmare.

@@YTisGayi have seen many incorrect subs on this channel before. i think i’ve even commented on them. i don’t think i’ve commented on them, actually. was a diff creator’s videos

211a

I’m partially deaf as well. I appreciate the CC. While these are not 100% accurate I’m able to follow along very well.

Stepson though

Spare the rod and spoil the child

@@kokoyaro mate. My father used to beat me over the smallest thing. What did that actually accomplish? I grew up with a LOT of repressed anger and resentment and then spent my teenage years lashing out because I didn’t know how to handle emotional responses without becoming angry.

@@mikmak2102 That quote isn't meant to be taken literally. The moral lesson is to discipline your child appropriately by whichever way is most suitable for that particular child. Some children are more stubborn than others

That quote is definitely meant to be taken literally.

Home of the brave!

don't forget school shootings, and a higher incarceration rate than communist china, russia and the rest of the world together.

Most Americans would never do that. Only pathetic rednecks who think killing and eating innocent animals somehow makes them tough and strong.

A house full of weapons…who would have thought a tragedy would come from that? 🤷‍♀️

@@cynthialawson364 and yet millions of homes have weapons and dont have this issue.

Demons are more real than we are

You are making excuses for a murderer

@@philtanics1082this whole demon garbage needs to stop, there’s no such thing and using that as an excuse for him murdering his sister is disgusting, he’s clearly on the spectrum and was diagnosed with Asperger’s.. this demon trash is just pathetic

​@@antemrkic1702Ok you need to know the difference between "Making excuses" and "Giving and explanation" Mental illness or anything associated with it does not excuse murder but it may explain why it happened.

@@antemrkic1702not excusing him of the crime. Only providing a possible breaking motive

Be careful, take all the necessary cautious measures if you care for him and your family, Hide dangerous items such as (Knifes / sharp Tools / Guns / Etc), keep them deeply hidden and away from his reach.

He's clearly an alien and deserves to be locked up forever

"Thankfully he never hurt us." Not yet...

Get him to a professional now

@@bradenwuesthoff5639 She phrased it like she's in the past

Umm no. If you love somebody you don't do that. That is not an act of love

@@probrickgamer it doesnt matter how much you love someone, your psychosis doesnt simply stop existing simply because you love someone. Please educate yourself before saying nonsense.

I think he loved her a little TOO much...

​@probrickgamer but... it wasn't his mind. It was a psychotic episode. Could happen to basically anyone. Just *click* now you're an evil monster where the intrusive thoughts are now actions and you're watching your own body do it. With zero control. It's wild. My uncle had a psychotic episode and when he snapped, he smashed his bathroom to pieces took a part of the broken mirror and sliced his own face up. That's not something people just do.

Another good example of sickness outweighing brilliance is "A Beautiful Mind". Granted he didn't hurt anyone, but he was also very highly intelligent and very sick in his,mind

Also the type of god&guns family that didn't take the obvious signs of mental health issues seriously until it cost someone their life. Spare your sympathy for people who deserve it.

​@@Mike-os3ptwe did. And they got mine.

Well the father is in korea and probably has no idea what his son did. The miscegenating mother lost her 2 half-castes, but she talks about it so matter-of-factly that it seems odd

@@dwillbecancelledsoon4086yep, there’s something wrong with her

If one can turn off their "compassion, understanding, and forgiveness" to kill an innocent and defenseless animal in the name of hunting, it is not far fetched that they can extend such callousness to a different species - humans. You know I am saying the truth. Anyone who owns a pet knows that animals can feel emotions. Not to mention serial killers often start off abusing poor animals. That kind of mentality has an effect on how people behave in human-human interactions.

It's likely he doesn't feel care nor love for his parents, it's more cognitive empathy. Like, he knows he could do such thing again, and he knows how bad that would be, so he understands that it's better that he won't live with them again.

Perhaps less maturity, than a genius-level, robotic logic.

@@aberroa1955 Cognitive empathy still counts for something.

As a diagnosed schizophrenic I recognize it all.

@@chocolatefrenzieya What's maturity other than taming your emotions by rationality? He could as well mature, in his manner. I think I understand him well, partly because I am, or rather was having similar kind of lack of true emotions. Being raised with emotionally abusive mother, I haven't used to read or understand emotions of other people, except when they were too obvious. But I wanted to understand, and to know how to react properly, so I taught myself, I seen how other people rationalize faint emotions, how they treat them, etc. And used that to kind of "fake" empathy, until I started to actually feel it, intuitively. Obviously, neither me nor nearly all other people with similar behavioral difficulties are going to killing spree. Lack of emotions or empathy is not enough to do such a thing, it's rather a lack of thought. And his condition, his depersonalization is much more severe than simply emotional disability. So, the thing about cognitive emotions - they mature too, maybe slower than other people, but nonetheless. Ideally, to the point where it's impossible to tell if person have cognitive or compassionate empathy, even by himself. "Fake it till you make it", so to say. But in the end, it's still more a thought process. Like, "ah-ha, I know you experienced this thing, I notice your subtle mimics, and that means you feel this, so it's appropriate for me to do that", just without verbal thoughts. Even if you have genius-level robotic logic, you still may consciously choose to be compassionate, caring, loving, etc, when you learned how to do that.

Idk about that but your mother was something else that one night.

Very insightful reply.

This is an excellent observation.

You have a small valid point. But he shouldn’t get out again, based on current and past behaviour & thoughts. It’s like the 12 yr old girl killed her 9 year old brother and the. Tried to sob and apologize after.. Parents and ppl in positions that can help, need too. Selflessness should be more prominent within families and also others. Just my opinion.. I’ve got lots hahahah

I wonder if that’s ever been suggested to him - maybe that would be helpful in his road to self awareness and growth and ultimately rehabilitation.

I have a son that was diagnosed on the spectrum when he was 4 and he's the same exact way. The psychologist told me at the time that my son would either become a serial killer or a very productive member of society. We worked with him all those years to help him to manage his emotions and he's a very nice young man now.

Yes, totally agree, those parents are truly beautiful people if only the world was populated with couples like them

@@ebihay916and we would have more cases like this it would be the perfect shitty world