Its a shame that Jigglypuff has the worst set of custom moves especially since she didnt get any buffs in that game either.

Fun fact: Sakurai actually patched a few custom moves. He only stopped after the community banned them from competitive, so a lot of the "Silly ones" that were found later like DK's Up B could have been nerfed if they continued to be legal. Makes you think 🤔

I loved the idea of custom moves, made the characters feel more unique and personal. Especially Ganondorf's Wizard Dropkick, on the ground it made him go high enough at the start to avoid projectiles, and in the air massively helped his recovery. They definitely shouldn't have been so hard to unlock though, especially since you could get custom moves you ALREADY unlocked. Wouldn't mind seeing them returned, if they're better implemented

Worth noting, Palutena has so many unique customs bc she uses a large majority of the custom equipment skills in Uprising, which made her a good candidate for the "tutorial" character on how custom moves worked. Like you mentioned, Mega Man had a similarly large pool of reference material that also made him a good candidate

I feel like some custom moves could've been applied to some echo fighters' movesets to make them more unique, like for Daisy and Dark Samus. And yes, I totally agree that Wizard Dropkick should have been Ganondrof's new down special.

i got a turbo controller. mapped special to A. picked ganondorf and went to target. put a piece of tape to hold A down. warlock punch over and over and since it’s mapped to A, it cycles thru the menu to restart the target test.

I ended up unlocking all the customs back in the day. They're fun to mess around with, but they definitely weren't competitive lol. Surprised you didn't talk about the whole Mii debacle back in Smash 4, since that whole thing was tied to the banning of custom moves, but I can also see that might be too much to go over in this video. Maybe a future idea, idk.

Some should've became part of official movesets like Ganon's and Luigi's. It's cool Palu got that in Ultimate.

It's a shame that these weren't allowed competitively. People complained that it changes the character too much, but is changing your specials really all that different from just picking a different character?

I think one reason they never got too popular was that they were also banned online, IIRC not even for fun allowed em. Which is probably for the best I mean, just imagine how cheesy would be having to play into this DK every match lol

6:55 "You can essentially just spam this bad boy over and over and over. Rinse and repeat." So Kong Cyclone is basically just Brawl MK's Mach Tornado

Custom moves are technically still in the game, albeit only Mii Fighters have them now. Still I wish more characters had moveset changes that reflected their custom moves like they did with Palutena. Ganondorf could of have been slightly better with Wizard Dropkick for example.

I remember having a the 3DS version and I was able to unlock all the custom moves playing the challenge thing, it was Grindy asf still but really fun to mess around with all of them

I wish they kept the custom moves for Kirby and Mega Man since they both have a array of abilities.

Some of my favorite Smash Bros Memories is playing with custom characters in Smash 4 with my college friends

I loved the custom moves because it gave the game more life to me. I’m not all about competitive tournaments. I actually played Smash as a party game, and custom moves gave so much more variety to it.

King Dedede's Bouncing Gordos was the most fun custom move in the game.

Sonic unleashed ost noice

TBH they were just an excuse to bring cut characters back Before Lucas became DLC, Ness had PK Freeze

great video as always, i appreciate a longer video. good shi

Mewtwo had a full set of glitched custom moves, you can even search it up online

I love the fact you used daisy circuit OST in this video, it's my favorite mario kart track song.

It honestly feels like Custom Moves would be possible if they had more work put into balancing, or maybe a system that allows you to block them from a match. Imagine that the way to get them is by either fighting a boss based on the characters game, or playing through a single-player campaign whete you have to complete certain quests to find them or must find them along the way

I loved these so much ❤

Light Egg Roll would’ve been great as Yoshi’s Side B.

Imagine a custom moves but it only replaced one move and it was balanced allowing more variety for moves.

I would love to be able to mod the custom moves to actually be representative of their home games/series; much as what Sakurai and the other devs did with Palutena and Mega Man. Though it sucks that in a fair bit of cases, I'm forced to either leave some moves or even entire characters alone or go by moves or references that only came to exist after Smash 4. Being able to balance them for at least some competitive use also would be interesting, but it probably wouldn't be terribly possible to do that. If it's possible, it could even be cool to give the DLC characters their own custom specials, but Ryu I probably wouldn't be able to do anything with given his whole style. I can't even think of anything for Ryu outside of referencing Ken, Dan, or maybe even Ryo Sakazaki from Art of Fighting.

Plautena was basically the poster child for custom moves and mega man

if theres something modern mortal kombat did right (and probably the only thing as well) its the variations rather than having character alts like alph/richter, we shouldve had a set of alts ( either colors or characters like doctor mario/lucina) that had different properties, like a heavy hitting sheik (aka melee sheik) instead of the weak multihit sheik. wouldve taken more time to make for sure but it would've been interesting

What really annoyed me was that Ness never got to use psi rockin' or any of the moves he can actually use in game besides pk flash. Mother 2 has such a large variety of moves for the characters, but the smash team was just like, "okay here are three versions of pk fire."

Mario should've had the Mario Tornado as a Custom Move.

I really don't know what Nintendo was thinking giving Ganondorf a better recovery as a custom move. That's something that should've been stock for him, considering how bad his base one is and how slow he is

Uhh... So I did unlock all the custom moves in the 3DS version of SSB4. It's absolutely something I never want to do again.

i hope this comes back in the new game with new development

I remember charizard actually being viable with custom moves on, because they got some ridiculously good customs. In particular, I remember dragon rush being pretty decent

In the 3ds version, the easier way of getting these moves is through Smash Run

im just 2 mins (2:01) into the vid, but yeah now i see why they banned custom moves even more-so now.. not just cuz some of the moves are powerful/broken.. but because they're difficult to get because you need to grind for them (? right?)

I think customs could work in super smash bros 64 and melee, as long as it isn't possible to obtain duplicates

Hey, at least Custom moves are still technically in ultimate, because Mii Brawler can use it to be a more dedicated counterpick... What do you mean there's other 2 miis outside brawler?

I’m still mad Wizard Dropkick isn’t standard on Ganon

I miss custom moves 😔

do a series talking about interesting custom moves

Got them all in 3ds using the home button exploit took me a whole year to get them all

What’s the music that was used here?

Mega man custom moves WAS SO GOOD SO UNIQUE SO MEMORABLE

Honestky the custom moves - good and bad, were fun to have geberally. It let characters be completely unique even if fighting against or with clones, and it would have been really cool if they had managaed to tranfer it over to ultimate.

WHAT IS THIS SONG AT THE BEGINNING?

I remember these times, the dark days

Ganons down b in super smash flash 2 is the wizards dropkick. Im upset it didn't come back in ultimate.

Imagine if Hero's menu had 2 other Custom move versions with completely different spells :^)

To this day I'll never understand why TOs banned Palutena's custom moves. They are already unlocked from the start. Or maybe Sakurai's team is at fault for not having them all unlocked in the first place. Such a missed opportunity.

what's the song at 3:00

I was asking that with a friend

Even if I didn’t get all of the custom moves, I still wish I could get all of the hours wasted grinding for those moves

Fear the Sapling!!!

Custom moves was a crazy addition and actually cool for amiibo fighters but they did not need to return at all

Between trying to make essentially 8 more mores for the entire cast of like 50+ iconic characters and trying to keep it relatively balanced, custom moves- as far as Smash goes- were always going to be kinda all-over-the-place. I say for Smash specifically because they CAN work and I have played a game where it's a pretty similar situation (4 special moves, each move having two other alts to switch to; albeit it's a standard fighter with a roster of about 20-ish), and in that case the game is still fairly balanced. (If anyone is curious what game I'm talking about, it's called Touhou Hisoutensoku, or just "soku" for short. And it's... a different experience, even for 2D fighters. XD ) Even putting aside balance you can tell they struggled to even make distinctly different moves which is why so many of them are forgettable to begin with (if they're not just completely unusable). Even if it was just only one other set of specials instead of two, they'd probably still struggle a lot in that department. (Case in point, just look at Mario, who is supposed to be the typical beginner-friendly shotoclone: His neutral- and up-special, which are arguably the two most defining moves of any character's moveset, are of the cookie-cutter "same exact move but trade range/speed/recovery for power and vice versa" rule that goes for nearly every custom move in the game.) Then you add balancing as well as the possibility of future fighters coming to the game and you have a recipe for ambivalence right there. (And balancing in itseld is a whole other can of worms.) And it's not like I don't want this to work either but the idea was heavily flawed to begin with.

The Miis Actually Still Has Custom Moves In Smash Ultimate

music at 10:00 ?

if you don’t know how long it would actually take to get all the custom moves, i got the game on 3ds in 2016 and have a total of maybe 2500+ hours and i *still* have 1 or 2 moves missing

I wish i couldve expirenced an op villager.

Only 3 characters have custom moves in Ultimate, the Miis

mash cyclone 😂😂

I do wish custom moves weren’t as busted as they were Ive always liked the aspect of custom load outs for different matchups like how paladins has cards. Like bruh doc Mario with that one pill that was pretty much like a falco laser that shit was cool and made him wayyy more viable but than we got shit like DK wind up-b…..

What was Sakurai thinking when adding this?

They should have been in smash ultimate just not in online as like it’s own mode as a bonus they would not even need to be that balanced

While it was a neat concept, they were either wildly under or overpowered, and took forever to unlock, I never got them all...

Bro said palutenas custom moves were weird and yet praised megamans for paying homage to his game, yet didnt research that palu's comes from kid icarus too 💀

they should not have made them unlockables, or made them all be unlocked by some task. Not one by one

pleaaaaaaasssse make a video about the miis in smash 4, brawler was busted as hell probably more busted than bayo lmao

Mod for Ultimate: bring back all custom moves from sm4sh directly into ultimate. XD :D

Wait the custom moves are in ultimate because they gave the miis custom moves

mashahiro

They were the reason why the Miis were banned

I'm a fan. I would have absolutely loved to see what crazy stuff could come out of a customs metagame and all of the unique strategies and ideas. The whole "It's basically impossible to have them all unlocked" thing is really a shame.

I understand that not all characters have enough source material to provide interesting Custom Moves, but how do you screw up Custom Moves for characters like Samus, Link, Kirby, Pit and the Pokemon among others who have tons of source material to work with ? It's like the developers didn't bother to play the games...

It's 100x more work, but I think a smash bros with just the smash 64 characters, but each character having 3 move options per special would be way more fun than the hundreds of characters in ultimate. Each character would have like 81 different possible combinations, meaning there's so much opportunity for creativity and player expression.

Yeah they were pretty useless while they were around

I love you content man but never say “uwu thanks” ever again please

I didn’t use Cheat Codes I got all customs for Smash 4 100% no hacks or cheats all I used was amiibos

Things like custom moves and echo fighters could have been better and more unique if Nintendo didn't make consoles one after another and Smash wasn't on such a dumb deadline to pretty much be the release game. Smash games NEVER have enough time to be good and balanced at the start of their release and everything is so rushed.

"Match Cyclone"