The explanation for why this spot is not a close decision starts at 10:02

I agree with the check back. It would be very ambitious to think worse would ever call.

Interesting hand Bart.. It's really nice to talk about one of your hands.. I'd like to see more of your hands in future videos. .

Bart, please do more videos like this, going through your hands solo dolo, it's lowkey cathartic...

Hey Bart, I just wanted to thank you for all of your content. I have found the way you explain and analyze every aspect of pretty much every area fascinating and easy to follow. It has definitely helped me!! Thanks and continue the amazing work 👍

"So, he was very out of line.." lmao

Thanks for the in depth analysis. I for one have lost a lot of money in these spots, and this now gives me the opportunity to minimize losses and still will sometimes.

What is the point in betting the river? For spite.

What a great endorsement for 5th street chicken

I really enjoyed the format, interesting hand. Also shows that in some cases a hand reveal can be educational

Normally never pause on the flop, but if there's ever a time to slow play this is it. Multi-way with a big hand with blockers and back door redraws, with a player leading out. Yes this is a dream scenario to just check and let your villain value own themselves.

Need more solo Bart hands for sure !

Really nice hand Bart -- I'm a long time lurker and first time commenter and saw this hand. I was in a very similar spot in a pokernow "online home game" recently in an SRP with a very nitty (preflop; inexperienced postflop) villain, but for me the spot felt a lot more painful. He raised UTG and I cc the button (along with another 1 or 2 splashy cold callers in between) with ks qx. Flop: qjx ss B 0.5 C F F Turn: Tx B 0.75 C River: Qs Board is qjxtq. Villain checks to me and I just thought given his UTG range is likely at worst AQo+ TT+ with no aj or kq, my value bet at the end would target 6 AA and 3 KK (which I thought would call) but I'm behind 4 AQ which I thought would play this way and 12 AK which might play this way. Because he's a nit, my read was that there was some percentage of him x/c hands as strong as a flush (which is perhaps reasonable) or TT on the river, but it was also possible that he was one of those players that plays tight pre and is never checking a flush otr. My king blocks the flush and ak but in the moment I thought there were too many aq/ak. I also didn't think he would ever fold these hands (he's not folding KK+.) It's somewhat painful when he has 9 combos of overpairs that I was decently sure will call but I can't target them because of ak/some aq, and the worst part is I was not entirely sure that ak checks the river. If ak doesn't check the river, then I have to bet vs 9 overpairs and 4 aq. One of the major reasons I don't outright fold preflop is because I think I can outplay (make thinner value bets when I hit hands beating AA, and fold stronger hands to aggression) him postflop -- when I can't extract value from trips on boards like these, it makes me question the preflop call. I end up checking back and get shown AQ, which makes my hand seems like a good check back; in reality, I already knew he has 4AQ in his range and I really would have preferred to see AK, which would have vindicated my check back. Because of the way conditional probability works, me observing AQ from villain actually probably makes it slightly more likely that he doesn't check AK back. Curious to hear anyone else's thoughts.

Yea I was thinking you were going to discuss bluffing river to fold out AK and AQ. Definitely not a value bet. Outside of like ATdd this is probably the worst hand you bring to the river. Even at 5/T it’s hard to trust your opponent to fold though.

I need 20 more videos just like this one Big B

I'm on the turn in the video and the first bluff/ semi bluff hand that comes to mind is A10 of diamonds..... but idk he bets with A10 of diamonds vs checking based on how strong your range is

I think we focus on the odds of cold-calling but overly defining your range is maybe the biggest issue. I'm guessing solvers can balance cold calls on the button, but can any of us? I dunno.

Hey Bart, great call. I’d like to see more of just your hands being done and I think it speeds up the episodes. It’s not the back-and-forth with the collars although those are fine thanks again, sir.

Wouldn’t a good point in betting small would be to either get thin value or not have to give the table information by having to show our cards if villian folds?

As he's basically always jamming boats, wouldn't this be a jam to get him off Ak+Aq (which are 12+4 combos)? I think he has that way more often than an OOL bluff. So if it goes check/check, we most often lose? As Bart mentions, our line is so so strong here. But probably levelling myself... Of course we can never bet for value.

I understand your point on the flop about not raising but I agree with the others and I would raise here. By you calling with 3 people behind you, I would argue that this is a stronger play. By you flatting the button here on the flop, QK is the minimum hand I give you (you Bart not everyone) and it would likely (if it were me) shut down any future betting.

Bart said the villain “got out of line.” Not sure I agree. I like the villains play with the exception of the check on the river. To me it was a clear jam if I’m playing the villains hand. I think you’d hear from a boat on the turn, or especially AK which you can almost discount because there was no 4! Pre. I like to take an aggressive line especially when I turn big equity like that. You just have to be able to pull the trigger on the river.

I cold call preflop like Bart, but I raise that flop all day long. I call that turn, like anyone who did OK in 3rd grade arithmetic. I take that free showdown on the river every time. I don't care HOW strong a flop raise looks. With 2 Broadway cards out there, I don't want to see a third one unless it's a King. Maybe raising takes down an already-nice pot before something goes wrong. Maybe it leads to a 4-way all in, and I have two chances to hit Queens full or quads. Interestingly, KQs is one of the two hands that in Limit Hold'Em are often correct to cold-call (an early position raise, not a 3-bet unless playing loose-aggressive villains) with. The other being AJs. True according to Sklansky anyway, and it sure was part of the solid preflop play made me a winning LHE player at mid stakes. The downside was that with many opponents having read the same books, there were times when we spotted each other's following of this rule of thumb, and I'd need to do some balancing and showing down of hands proving I didn't strictly follow the book on that, implying that I also didn't on other things. In a way, it was the first time when I needed to implement partials on parts of my range, in common preflop situations, to prevent being absolutely correctly being put on a super specific range by attentive villains.

12:13 _...he blocks KQ_ But, he does not block pocket JJ, not TT.

On the flop your range gets very condensed if you raise vs your range is much wider if you call the 175. You're getting almost 5 to 1, which justifies a call from hands like KJs, AKs with backdoor flush draw, probably AK off makes a call here occasionally, JJ..... where as I think you're range is narrowed down to QX with a raise. Plus I think this is a very under buffed spot vs 3bettor with 2 players behind

Have a strong inclination it's KK were up against before the river reveal but hindsight is 2020.

Fold pre mostly occasionally 4bet. Calling pre is bad.

On this river, I think villain is overweighted to AK. I don't think most villains are going to check through a full house, though of course there will be some FHs that check on the river. Villain is likely concerned about hero having a FH (and all of the FHs are hands VERY consistent with a button 3-bet cold call). So there are two options I see - the safe option, which is to check it back. I anticipate losing the hand the majority of the time to AK. You could take a higher variance option here and rip it in, though you're turning your hand into a bluff. Is our hand strong enough that we should just take our equity to showdown? I don't think so because if the trips win, it is bc villain has a bluff and we're going to win when we rip it. We're really only worried about a slow played FH.

Its just never a fold on the turn. You have to evaluate river. All of the math and you're hand strength are enough to merit a turn call.

Good hand analysis

I think I'd call with getting 3 to 1 and u have outs to boat up, and a 2% chance of hitting yr Q. But if Im calling and miss the river Im put in a tough spot facing a jam, so after alls said I'd prob jam the turn, if Im beat Im beat but I have outs to boat up & hit quads. I think its very close, fold or jam. Maybe its too nitty to fold here, idk, thats why I dont run a coaching site and have a utube channel and Bart does. lol

I think the river is a trivial check back. I think villian could have a hand such as AQ with the intention to check-call. Too thin to bet IMO.

Fyi, I think your stack size is wrong the the river. Editor didn't take out your chips from the call on turn. Great video otherwise other 👍

Good content pal. See you at chasers lfg

Yes

Wow. You had twips.

Results oriented?

There is 1 combo of suited QJ.. spades..

Every time I’m open up my KZfaq I hope there’s a new hand

I would 100% check back.. either worse folds, better calls or raise.. no point to bet..

Only get called if you're beat

Not sure why we box Asians, and non-Asians? What does that have to do with the hand?

If villain is the type to fold AK here (or even get super nitty and fold 10s), betting as a bluff can work. But you aren't getting called by worse.

Yeah you can fold the turn all you have to do is place your cards face down and push them forward.

The only two actions that I agree with the hero with in how he played his hand is calling before the flop and checking on the river. He gave the other player too many opportunities to win the pot the way he played after the flop and the turn. His strategy didn’t win him the hand-the cards ended up coming out in his favor (especially the river). He’s then using the outcome off the cards and applying it to his strategy using hindsight. If the last card was a diamond-he would have effectively lost a hand where he had trips on the flop and his opponent had a king high.

It shows the power of bluffing all in on river. It’s so hard to make strong hands in poker.

Instead of asking if it's a fold on the turn, rather, is it an opportunity to bluff on the river??Possibly AK folds to a jam..

So the CO 3-bet with K6s. Yeah, that's out of line.

Jam River to get AK to fold

Bet river to get value from KK

Cbet into 3 other players is quite ambitious of him.. Ridiculous some would say..

i dont think it was a good idea to announce your intention to fold to a shove. what if he was watching this?

I am the villain I am jamming this river all day long

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This is why you don't give up bluffs.....bart would have folded as he said

why mention jj 1010 to calle a 3 bet??? you arent pre flop.???