A pretty scary opening. Double Parachute Malfunction.
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@reversedonuts-sparkidoooik32532 жыл бұрын
The deep breaths after adrenaline are all super the same. Gotta love it
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
This ^
@magiclarry76884 жыл бұрын
I was holding my breath just watching this.
@getfdbyjsully2 жыл бұрын
@Apostolos Ginnakidis what the fuck are you talking about
@codename84182 жыл бұрын
Same.
@mercyshaver52643 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thank you for sharing this with us.
@heatherjones67902 жыл бұрын
@Apostolos Ginnakidis si
@adamshepard20856 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you are doing well
@dreamman34912 жыл бұрын
Wow no panic...thanks for sharing 👍🏻
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
You panic a little after you get on the ground, but in the moment you are far to hyper focused to experience panic.
@tonyjohnson72903 жыл бұрын
I get that line twists on a reserve a technically a malfunction, but ive had them on every one of my reserve rides because im always spinning 😭
@canatolakhoemini67282 жыл бұрын
Seems like dude has never made a base jump and doesn't trust his gear or his rigger at all! Didn't seem scary at all. Concerning maybe a tiny bit.
@daandemeyer17082 жыл бұрын
@@canatolakhoemini6728 most people never did a basejump... it’s a wet dream for most.
@canatolakhoemini67282 жыл бұрын
@@daandemeyer1708 to be honest, I don't know what the hell I was thinking about the day I replied to this. Although a little more breathing and slowing everything down would have been much more comfortable, everything looked fine. I do find it a bit funny that the breathing sounds like he just escaped Michael Myers on Halloween night. Lol.
@daandemeyer17082 жыл бұрын
@@canatolakhoemini6728 I was just desperately trying to say I want to basejump 😅. But because of family reasons I will stick to skydiving. I’ll just watchf youtube video’s of basejumpers.
@canatolakhoemini67282 жыл бұрын
@@daandemeyer1708 ahhh come on over to twin falls Idaho, call Miles D up , take the course and make one! If you want a safe controlled environment, that's the safest it gets. I've seen 16 years old girls make jumps off there with no skydives before. Not through Miles course! But it's pretty safe. I bet you would be on your deathbed in many years to come thinking, "man that dude on KZfaq totally made my dreams come true by suggesting I go to Idaho!" Lol.
@haitvhalong Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😘😘😘😘😘😘
@62lme2 жыл бұрын
I just have one question, I can see his main malfunction, looked like a clean cut away, and he pulled his reserve. I started skydiving, loved it. But I noticed on deploy of the reserve he had lines twisted but on a main I was told to do exactly what he did kicking in the correct direction to untwist the lines. Which he did and he got his canapy flying fine. So, is it a malfunction when you have a line twist on the reserve because of the loss of altitude so quickly. I could tell he was probably not going to have a problem as soon as he got his lines straight. So, did the altitude change make the line twist on a reserve a malfunction?
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
What cause the line twists on the reserve was I was still spinning when I cut away from the main. I thought I had stabilized myself but I still had some spin. The line twists on the main where caused but a toggle fire and the twists locked in the risers unevenly. The reserve is designed to be a much more docile canopy and easier to death with such problems.
@alphonzo58122 жыл бұрын
You cant spend the rest of your life trying to get stable, wisdom from my instructors.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
@@alphonzo5812 I would also add if you canopy doesn't work you have the rest of your life to fix it.
@0BIWANCANNOLI3 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re ok good job
@shreyaspatil67542 жыл бұрын
Is this sky's the limit by any chance? Brings back memories!
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@thodywhody41232 жыл бұрын
Good job and what an amazing canopy, comes back to daddy on it´s own. :D
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
You know it!
@nadred53962 жыл бұрын
This is the first guy I’ve seen get the twisted parachute untwisted, must be a pro
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
You should watch more skydiving videos, line twists are a common malfunction.
@nadred53962 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nyc I’ve watched maybe like 20 and most either land with it twisted or cut
@jjw6789 Жыл бұрын
I am a 50 jump SUPER ROOKIE and I've kicked out of line twists 3 or 4 times.
@harryrobinson32182 жыл бұрын
Good job! You cutaway high enough to deal with the Reserve
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Thanks flying with camera wings and what not having extra alti is always a good thing
@hp15092 жыл бұрын
Damn good work on that second.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately the reserve is designed to be as safe as possible, it's a lot less fun to fly a lot less maneuverable but it works.
@iwangrzegorzkucharczyk90583 жыл бұрын
Derek, take care about toggle housing 1:15 ;) and it looks, that reserve was closed quite tight ;p
@isk8nyc3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was having a lot of toggles fires on that old container, I eventually replaced it. Toggle fires usually are not a big deal, until you mix it with a line twist.
@dontask43383 жыл бұрын
what percentage of Mains are just lost after a cutaway? This one looks like it's happily coming right back to the airfield
@weishengning-63042 жыл бұрын
@@RiverGibbs at most dzs people will drive towards the cut canopy after they notice it. pretty common to recover it
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
That's one reason why law speed mals kill more people. You got time enough to make bad decisions, and you have time to worry about your lost shit.
@carlroland39472 жыл бұрын
im starting my AFF course and this is my biggest fear! but reading comments it sounds common and some making out not a big deal which in a way is a bit reassuring and taught correctly you can get yourself out of the situation safely. but statistically how many dont and how many fatalities are there? im hoping its very low
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Skydiving Fatalities are extremely low compared to the numbers of jumps. Average about 15 fatalities per year over 3 million jumps. And of those fatalities the vast majority are due to pilot error on high performance canopies. While gear failure does happen it's extremely rare and happens mostly due to user error, thus it is preventable if proper gear checks are made. As you will learn in your AFF course there is a monthly publication called the parachutist published by the USPA, and every fatality is investigated and reported in that publication so skydivers can learn from the unfortunate mistake of others. Line twists are a common malfunction, but the main and the reserve canopies are designed completely differently. The main is not considered a life saving device, and has many features to increase performance and convenience. The reserve is not designed for performance or convenience, it's designed to be as reliable as possible. In this video the two malfunctions are nearly identical, but there is a noticeable difference of how the malfunction affected the two canopies, where the main quickly entered into a spiraling dive that made fixing it questionable, the reserve flew strait and true. You'll start off with a student canopy that leans more towards to reliability side then the performance side. Probably a PD Navigator, and the difference between the a student canopy and a sport canopy is like driving a VW Minibus vs a Porche 911. The minibus is very docile and forgiving, the 911 is dynamic. Hope that helps and Blue Skies ~Derek
@clutch11756 жыл бұрын
why did your reserve deploy and line twist on you?? was it body position on deploment? double line twist wtf?
@isk8nyc6 жыл бұрын
I was in a spin when it was deployed
@lt.dansparamotoradventures25922 жыл бұрын
Wow, crazy stuff
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had anything similar with paramotoring?
@lt.dansparamotoradventures25922 жыл бұрын
Nope, and hope I never do.
@BN-HAPPY2 жыл бұрын
Now i see why base jumps are so deadly...i just need a second to recover🤯
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Yes BASE is much more dangerous, you only use one parachute with BASE but it's designed a lot more like the reserve.
@happymaskedguy19432 жыл бұрын
Line twists? Had them on my first static line jump last weekend. Apparently they're pretty common. I just kicked it out.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
I get my fair share of line twists, this one was a little different through this was a line twist with a fired toggle changes of kicking out of that are slim when one side of the canopy is flying faster then the other. If you are a student and saw this and your reaction was to try to fix it your instructors are doing you a grave disservice. Kicking out of line twists is one thing under a stable canopy kicking out of line twists with a canopy while it's in a dive is a completely difference situation.
@FinalFront2 жыл бұрын
You were also flying a huge student canopy on your static line jump which 9 times out of 10 will remain straight & level even with line twists. Smaller canopies can go into a dive/spinning dive with line twists.
@jaco51872 жыл бұрын
Just got my A License. I'm scared to death of having a cut-away...and then my reserve has a line twist also.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
The reserve thankfully is far more docile then the main. Keep in mind the main is designed for performance and convenience the reserve is designed to work. Every difference between the main and reserve from the shape to number of cells to the deployment method is a trade off for reliability.
@nacerwahid60092 жыл бұрын
wht cause the lines twist of the main?.. in the opening its look clear?!
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
In this case it appears the left toggle fired. This can sometimes open fine, sometimes line twist. There are so many variables at play it's often difficult to say what exactly caused it.
@F8LDragon23 жыл бұрын
Did you find your main?
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it actually came down abt 200 ft from where I landed.
@plesnitrener32992 жыл бұрын
Did this happen due to poor packing of the parachute or?
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Variety of factors packing body position and just dumb luck. This one doesn't appear to have had anything noticeable gone wrong. I year or two ago I bought a new container\harness and the number of malfunctions significantly decreased.
@plesnitrener32992 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nyc thank you..
@jamesb78072 жыл бұрын
That reserve line twist occurred due to poor body position upon deploying said reserve. Seems I see that more than not. Pretty sad.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
No the reserve line twist was not a result of a line twist it was because I was in a spin when I chopped. If you are spinning when you chop you'll continue to spin if you do not take time to correct it.
@powerofone16452 жыл бұрын
What actually causes this to happen. Wind?
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Variety of factors packing, body position and just dumb luck. I've seen the most carefully packed parachute have server issues, and the most rushed and sloppy pack jobs open beautifully. One thing to keep in mins is that a parachutes path of least resistance is to be open and flying stable. We often say the parachute wants to open, and far more often then not it will work no matter how poorly you pack it. In fact if you are trying to make it fail you really need to go out of your way to make that happen.
@kvarnerinfoTV2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love toggle fire
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this rig used to toggle fire so regularly and my openings where so inconsistent I started to fear my great a bit. I replaced the container with one sized for me and I problems were dramatically reduced. I still get end cell closures now and then though.
@yuriyumanskiy39166 жыл бұрын
Woohoo STL!
@vincent75206 жыл бұрын
Pretty scary indeed…
@allaboutsboyzz47372 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odJ3nMKIv5ebhWQ.html ,.,
@TrafficConeOrange2 жыл бұрын
My ears are alright :D
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Planes and freefall out loud ;')
@user-eo2cf1ep5r2 жыл бұрын
Мы не стрептезёры не шахматисты мы парашютисты
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Да, мы - Голубое небо
@daniak3529 Жыл бұрын
waw ikut tegang nontonnya ngeri sendiri lihat😲
@Kantirant3 жыл бұрын
jesuus , id think i was at that point
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
What was the point?
@Kantirant2 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nycOh seems i left out a word my bad haha. i wouldn't be able to keep a cool head in that situation, id think i was "done" at that point the second chute deployed and was also tangled up. Its amazing how you quickly assessed the situation and solved the Problem! I envy that. :D
@human999922 жыл бұрын
What may be the reason for this
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
In this case it appears it was caused by one of the break toggle coming undone while it was opening. The parachute is designed so that when it opens it flying at half breaks. This gives you more time to turn if you open to close top someone and are heading at each other. The parachute also flies more stably in half breaks. In this case when it opened one of the break lines came loose so it was turning at half it's potential turn rate.
@glen70166 жыл бұрын
A line twist is not a malfunction.
@updatedotexe4 жыл бұрын
Doch!
@isk8nyc4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, even when it's flying straight it would still be considered a minor mal. This wasn't flying straight, one of my toggles had popped as well and that got locked into the twist, there was little chance of me fixing that one.
@iwangrzegorzkucharczyk90583 жыл бұрын
Depends on altitude, higher then decision one it's not, when you still have linetwist on decision alti - it's high time for reserve ;)
@geoffcarlton40473 жыл бұрын
Show have stayed with the first it took ages to fall to the ground.
@aj58782 жыл бұрын
Wym?
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
It falls to earth a lot slower with little weight attached to it. But it wasn't falling slow with me attached the line twists and spiraling down. When I cut away I was probably moving at >70 MPH.
@chehar2 жыл бұрын
Thats not his audible alti beeping, that's his fitbit
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
No that's my audible alti. It's setup for four way camera.
@aidenwrenn53424 жыл бұрын
Keep kicking, it's just twists.
@janschmidt16143 жыл бұрын
+ toggle fire on the first one
@guardianobserver65936 жыл бұрын
Those parachute manufacturers must definitely find a solution to all these parachute malfunctions we see all over the net!!
@slartybarfastb36486 жыл бұрын
Guardian Observer Malfunctions tend to be caused by whoever packed the parachute. Equipment failure is rare. Even when equipment is at fault there were usually warning signs of wear which could be found during the packing process.
@glen70166 жыл бұрын
That is why there are two. The reserve did not malfunction. It opened with simple line twist that is easily corrected
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Still technically a malfunction. But the reserves are designed to be far more docile.
@JoannaMichelleHeath3 жыл бұрын
What dz is this?
@isk8nyc3 жыл бұрын
This happened at Sky's the Limit in PA.
@nowornever1073.2 жыл бұрын
I just sh!t my pants
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Hope the clean up was quick and easy.
@nowornever1073.2 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nyc hahahahahahaha
@KIS.Official2 жыл бұрын
Sợ vãi
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
I was to after I got back on the ground...
@user-rr9ni5qo1o2 жыл бұрын
شانس اوردی چتر کمکی هم لاین تویس شد
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
The translation of this is hilarious... "Luckily, the auxiliary umbrella also became a line"
@kvarnerinfoTV6 жыл бұрын
Such simple line twist can hardly be called malfunction. Btw. I dont use RSL or skyhook because it causes problems like this one. If I have altitude I will stabilize before deploying reserve.
@yarpos6 жыл бұрын
" I dont use RSL or skyhook because it causes problems as this one" one of the great myths of skydiving
@kvarnerinfoTV6 жыл бұрын
I have 3 cutaways, first one - nasty rotation - line over, I cut main RSL deployed reserve and I had nasty line twist on reserve because I was in rotation while reserve was deploying - took me lot of time to solve it. I also know case where skyhook was cause of a death because of packer error related to skyhook so no thnx. I am fine with my skills. RSL is for beginners. If you know what you are doing RSL and skyhook are not needed.
@isk8nyc6 жыл бұрын
With all due respect Linus, the only reason you should not use a RSL is if you have significant snag point on your helmet. RSL's are not just for beginners. Anyone without a without a snag point should use a RSL. Your argument makes as much sense as saying AAD's are for beginners.... Jumpers who boast about the number of cutaways they've had don't become old skydivers. In my opinion the fewer chops you have in your career the more proficient skydiver you are, not the other way around. This mal was caused by a toggle fire. I was flying with a team and not packing for myself so weather it was packed this way or fired on release in unclear, I do however give special attention to my toggles whenever I pack.
@kvarnerinfoTV6 жыл бұрын
Derek, if a skydiver is unable to cutaway and pull reserve by himself or herself then they should play chess. I had 3 reserves - 0 was my fault. 1. Reserve - 7 th jump, bad pack job by other skydiver - line over 2. Reserve - 106 jump, brake line snapped, 3. Reserve - 476 jump, Vortex 2 issue with short risers - brake was unstowing on openings (line twist - entered spin - cutaway) - not always. Tested on the ground and solved by rigger. Give me one good reason for RSL or skyhook please.
@isk8nyc6 жыл бұрын
While I agree with you that every skydiver should be able to pull for themselves having something there to do it for you won't hurt, aside from the issue of high risk of snag. I have to point out you think none of these cut aways were your fault. 1. Line overs are most often caused by steps throughs but you were a student and shouldn't be expect to be checking for this. 2. Break line snapped yes these thing do happen but lines usually give you some indication they are about to go. Checking gear thoroughly could have prevented this. 3. A high speed canopy that was continuously having break line fires, when you noticed the pattern you could have stopped jumping and looked at the problem with a rigger. From you wording didn't seam you addressed the issue until after the chop. This is the ego issue I was saying is common, "I've had less then 500 hundred jumps and had three chops, but none of them are my fault...." Piece of advice, whenever you hear youself say "it wasn't my fault" or "nothing I could have done" check your ego and ask someone, chances are there are things you could have done. I have seen an instance where a loose pebble, dirt grime ext became lodged in the housing and jammed the reserve handle when it was pulled for a repack. As the RSL pulls from the opposite end it would have helped. If for any reason you have trouble with your reserve. It's an off chance but there is also the possibility of your main KATOing at 1000 ft you'll have a better chance of survival chopping at that alt with a rsl then without. If you chop and your reserve doesn't have a kink from the rsl you're doing it wrong. You can't beat an rsl. As far as the skyhook goes, the skyhook will have you under a new canopy in 75 feet, a drastic reduction from the 300 ft with a rsl. There are three good reasons for a rsl or skyhook, you only asked for one. I don't see any difference between saying every jumper should be able to pull for themselves so you don't need an AAD and I don't see any difference between saying every jumper should be able to pull for themselves so you don't need an RSL. Oh and for the record I don't use a RSL because I have a decent risk of snag.
@longsleevethong14572 жыл бұрын
Should’ve straightened the first chute
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
I don’t follow what you mean
@longsleevethong14572 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nyc I would’ve spent a bit more time pulling the main risers apart like he did with the spare
@50buttfish2 жыл бұрын
Should be "WHEN GOOD canopies are packed BADLY"; Never rush, your life depends on it.
@grayareas70082 жыл бұрын
That's not how it works
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
My Fourth Cutaway could have been the result of a hastily packed rigged, but in this video it wasn't the case.
@jorfaby5 жыл бұрын
Volvio a nacer
@canatolakhoemini67282 жыл бұрын
Bummer, thought something scary was going to happen other than the normal Stiletto X. Good times! Acting like he had a real malfunction or something! Lol.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Line twist + toogle fire isn't something you can fix on this canopy.
@ashikabdul52832 жыл бұрын
😐😐😐😐
@denisfontenelledossantos21372 жыл бұрын
Uma hora isso da merda
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@nialgaming65512 жыл бұрын
Load
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Load?
@user-sn7pn7gk5z2 жыл бұрын
그리스도는 참된 제사장이 되셔서 저주와 재앙에서 해방되는 길을 열어 주셨습니다. 누구든지 예수를 믿고 영접하면 법적으로 죄와 사망에서 영원히 해방되며 하나님의 자녀가 됩니다. 예수를 믿고 영접하세요. 예수는 그대를 사랑하고 있습니다.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
I respect your beliefs.
@oldguitarguy75282 жыл бұрын
Play stupid games win stipid prizes
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
Seriously?
@oldguitarguy75282 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nyc yes, he jumoed out of an airplane that was flaying perfectly. For WHAT?
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
@@oldguitarguy7528 It's like trying to explain to a four year old why kissing girls is fun. You can't really understand it until you try it. The first time is a life event there was life before and after that happened. More then anything else it's a sense of freedom like no other it's extreme intensity followed by such peace. It's the hyper focus you get while in free fall, it's something that wipes all your cares away, it's a palette cleanser for life.
@oldguitarguy75282 жыл бұрын
@@isk8nyc k, i get that from playing music and dont have to worry about smashing into the earth at 225 mph. Sorry, will never understand, i hate the 12 hr flight from here to israel more than anything in the world. Flying is must do situation.
@isk8nyc2 жыл бұрын
@@oldguitarguy7528 A skydive is about a < 30 mins abt 20 mins to alti 60 seconds or so of freefall, 5 mins of canopy flight, that's the other half most people who don't jump don't really get after you have a parachute over your head, you are no longer a skydiver, but a glider pilot.