Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

A lot of victims have and are still blamed for their own being assaulted so its really not a stretch to believe. Plus that was in 1992 where everyone was way more stupid about such things

That’s actually extremely realistic. Maybe that’s what the writers were going for?

Didn’t a similar situation happen between Green Arrow and Shado back in the day?

@@noahlarose7371 And Bruce & Talia

i wish they dived deeper into the long lasting trauma of sexual assault instead of treating it like getting beat up by another villain. i think the only superhero that explored it was Jessica Jones and kinda Green Arrow

@@HELLO_KORO Invincible also showed this brand of sexual assault and the trauma that came after it very accurately.

Facts

Need me a female predator ngl

They won't feminism and wokeness will make sure of it unfortunately

@@midnightxtaleI personally think both are great and well written stories!

Invincible too

@@Jason.todd.arkhamyea same love them both🔥

​@@midnightxtaleit's not like every marvel comic is a kid story There are some veru good comic books from marvel as well ( Old man Logan , Immortal Hulk , The Amazing spiderman, The Spectacular Spiderman, Deadpool kills the Marvel universe , X men comics ) all of them are very good

Add Invincible as well

It's actually damn depressing

It hurt me reading it. He knew his body was shutting down and what was gonna happen next. Literally what most victims go through and it so sad how it’s brushed over.

Doesn't he just say don't touch me because he thinks he's poisonous because that's what he says "don't touch me... I'm poisonous" so is he just trying to protect her from being poisoned or am i retarded?

​@@zXHawkxEyeXzyes hes says it because of that but it still weird because does she know he wants it?

That is not how this works. All of these words have the same weight and should be equally taken seriously

It's seen a lot in writing, it's like the writers like their characters going through worse and worse scenarios the nicer they are, like spider man. All to show they can bounce back. But it's still F&#%$d up to showcase regardless.

Same with invincible

its because it brings more attention to it... if a mean character got raped you would probably feel less sympathy but if a nice one did then you would care a lot more

@Hello (: it's still kinda strange that Nightwing got raped literally 3 times. Twice in the comics and once in animation. Like, they could've at least used someone else.

If you read brat pack comic The creator shows you the type of writers and viewers in a mocking manner

Worse part was that the titans blamed Dick and Mirage never got any punishment. Dc sometimes uses titan as punching bags and fodder for crisis events. But somehow Mirage is always spared from all that.

​@Trenton Doucette Starfire also blamed Dick like the other Titans. Although she is better than the rest because she at least blames Mirage as well.

@@huntertezz yikes, yeah they really haven’t handled that well at all. Mirage hasn’t show up often enough for me to remember she exists to be honest. But I don’t read the Nightwing comics, so I could be wrong

@Trenton Doucette Not gonna lie, but they did Grayson dirty as hell, he honestly deserves better than that.😔😔😔

You're acting as if it actually happened

I’m so sorry that happened to you. I hope you found support and care somewhere and you are working through your trauma

great comment. this character really does get the heroine treatment and i’m not sure why. the south park episode is a great reference because although it may be satire that is EXACTLY what people say when men are sa’d. i’m glad these important conversations are starting to happen!

Yeah, Talia really a serial rap*st. Like people say her drugging bats was OOC but she legit did it with Jason knowing he was outta his mind from the pit and not able to consent AND a minor. Like😬 That's a pattern.

Hey man, I'm so sorry that shit happened to you. Thank you so much for talking about it here, it really needed to be said. Have a hug from one survivor to another 🫂✨️

Damn. Sorry that happened to you bro.

how much you wanna bet if Nightwing actually told a member of the Bat-Family about it things would be alot different? Bruce would have done something, Jason probably would have too, he would have been an insesitive dick, no pun but he'd still do something

@@ComanderRilldo not really, when men are raped it’s ignored and we’re told “no you weren’t”

@@nexusgiga except for the fact that Bruce and Jason had similar things happen to them, if anything they'd be more sympathetic to what happened to Dick than most I think

@@ComanderRilldo yeah and dc had to retcon Bruce being raped, which is still a huge problem

I mean The Killing Joke is still talked about because it's one of the best comics ever published. It's one of the best known Batman comics and people still talk about it in superlative terms for good reasons. Ask people what Batman comics you should read and the Killing Joke will be on the list. The legacy of these terrible comics is that DC doesn't want people to bring it up. Also unlike the continuing presence of both Babs and the Joker, Tarantula and Mirage aren't exactly important characters. We don't see Nightwing interacting with Mirage anymore but Barbara and Joker have continuing interactions. It's also not a bizarre conclusion to draw. The comic heavily implies that's what's happened. He shoots her but then we see him slowly unbuttoning her shirt. Later when she talks to Batman she says something like "oh god Bruce I remember what he did". This is right when she wakes up in hospital and she's visibly traumatized by what's happened to her and she can't say anything else about it. She's also terrified because the Joker has kidnapped her father and she tells Batman he didn't see the Joker's eyes, he's different now. When the story moves back to Jiim, who's still being held hostage, the Joker shows off the photos he took off Barbara. It's again not explicit but we can see he stripped off all her clothes after she was shot then photographed her. Later Jim can barely get out the words when talking about the photos the Joker showed him, which he says were to drive him mad. So sure maybe Barbara breaks down after being shot in her civilian persona and despite Joker being a serial killing supervillain she thinks him shooting people is an escalation. And sure Jim wouldn't exactly enjoy his daughter being shot and he doesn't know if she's alive at this point. But that's being very generous with the Joker's boundaries and not particularly generous with what qualifies as unspeakable trauma in the Gordon family. She also doesn't just magically regain her ability to walk. Her stories for years focus on surviving and moving past her trauma and her recovery. This was her defining character storyline for years meaning she becomes a hero who survives the Joker. It's the origin story for Oracle. While you can say that's because male sexual assaults aren't taken seriously, and that's also very true, it's because of the systemic sexism that effects all the characters and all their stories. They shrug off what happened to Nightwing but they also have Bruce up and walking after Bane. They're both considered too important as characters. They also need to be kept as superheroes, Babs wasn't so lucky. The editor for Killing Joke was Len Wein and fairly famously was more than happy to see Barbara "crippled". That ironically gave her space to be allowed to process her trauma and allowed her more character growth but it wasn't the intent. The editor didn't like her and was happy to see her suffer. We weren't going to get years of Nightwing dealing with trauma because he's an important character and the view in comics at the time was he couldn't be a hero and suffer emotional trauma. It's the exact same inherent sexism at play it just presents differently. Barbara was never going to get to be the Red Hood just like Jason was never going to be the Oracle. End result is worse comics and worse characterisation for everyone.

A bunch of well-written, well-handled Peter Parkers. I would kill for a good writer like Tom Taylor to write Spider Man. Instead we get Zeb Wells or Dan Slott.

I don't remember spider-man ever getting raped

​@@miracon000fez no but he got cucked in the recent comic and in the past but it got retconned after But Mary Jane has children with some other guy for an event that should have never been written in the first place

​@@lunosol8914 fuck that whore also i hate that actress of mj too

@@miracon000fez Yeah but he did kinda lose everything one could possobly lose in their life, multiple times. Literally even lost his body for quite a while at some point. Rape is on the very short list of things that didn't happen to him YET

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

Thats pretty controversial to alot of people but also totally true.

Very rare case tho

​@@nathanchishi7245 not rare. Its just not discussed

@@nathanchishi7245 Rare my ass, Men just dont easily discuss these things because people like you go and say shit like that, or say they wanted it ect.... So it usually get bottled up and never talked causing different issues.

Thats what i thought when i first read invincible

It happened to Green Arrow and Batman as well

​@@randomduck8679 batman with Talia but when was the green arrow one?

​@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Shado disguised herself as Black Canary and slept with Oliver without him knowing.

The Batman version is better and more meaningful/impactful and wasn't done to sexualise the character beyond belief

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Talia was retarded and was stupidly retconned to be like that, although I think they finally undid that shitty retcon and re re toned it

she sucks

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

The council has awarded you one singular yike

Jeez, really?

@@jackmrsich3178 Yep. She kept sayin it was a “non-consensual love scene”

I’ve heard claims the writer was “joking” but DC Editorial at the time was like “wait…that’s actually an idea” it was super messed up and I’m glad they didn’t do it

​@@jugcomics Wow! That's something you don't joke about. Just wow.

Flakka?

@@Elbaz8 People joke about Hitler and 9/11 both of which are 1000 times worse

You need to google her (irl) origin story. Thw writer had a dom kink. Its kind of why she has a lasso, and originally ir was her only weakness. No, seriously. Google it.

It sometimes feels like the darker tha backstory the more it adds to their character and builds them

I’m so sorry to hear that happened to you. I hope you found ways to overcome the trauma from that and I wish you all the best.

I'm truly sorry that that happened, people like your mother are just as bad as rapists, no offense.

I can’t imagine how it is, all my life i have strived to make sure the world is equal in all ways, sexism against men is still sexism, same goes for rape.

Damn im sorry for you

I'm sorry what happened to you.

Clearly you never watch The Shawshank Redemption

​@@shanewoody4232 bro being sarcastic

💀look at the bottom comment in this video

@@C4rbzz wtf

@@AlastorGUN that’s what I’m saying, there’s always gonna be that one creep applauding it

You were correct

Actual insanity for people saying that rape is rape thats it it isnt good and can traumatize you for life and ruin your life like it isnt even funny anymore this is serious yet people joke about it yes the video is about a comic thats fiction but sa for men is real and should be taken serious and not just a joke everybody could go away from im 11 yet i have better intelligence and moralitys then most adults like what the hell

I mean the comics still tried to sweep it under the rug or “slut shame” dick for it, but I hope the video is helpful for any victims of any gender get access to resources

A woman cannot rape a man!

​@jugcomics , should we boycott DC comics? I honestly am not a comic book person anyway, and I have dream of creating my own DC cinematic universe that addresses issues like this while also shedding light onto the Batfamily's family dynamics. If I crush DC comics by doing what they won't do, I can force them into acknowledging their terrible double standards and do better for comic book lovers to come. I also get my dream come true of becoming a writer-director who makes content that encourages family values and protecting our fan favorite characters while also punishing the perverts who hurt them. Leave it to me 😈..

OH FUCK

​@@ABagelLeftOnTheRoadside WAITWAITWAITWAIT!!!

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

I was bouta say that fr

Or a dio

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

That's why Bruce Wayne said in 1 storyline that the only person worthy to replace him is Dick Grayson. Dick is so mentally mature because he went through a lot of difficult shit at a young age.

some girls rode his dick, he didnt get butt plugged

​@@P.Whitestrakeexcept dick doesn't want to be batman, he only was batman for a time because bruce was presumed dead for the time and he was forced into the role

Correct me if im wrong

Wrong. Because you only listed 4 groups.

@@BruceWayne-yn6ur oh noes

And me. 5 - the guy who made the video

@@jugcomics W

It won’t seen other videos like it and plenty of people say oh well men unfortunately don’t suffer anything from then talk about how horrible men are then tell them that they should first off get up and do as women say so

@@martinezseymore3007 well that’s people for you…

​@@martinezseymore3007 those people need the instant uno reverse card.... "Women don't suffer, they're horrible and should just do what men tell them to do!" I don't believe the above in quotations, but maybe pushing to emphasize the hypocrisy will help..? I don't know..

I didn't anyone denies it.

​@@ClonserHalphalive nope, if you're dealing with someone who legit hates men they will *find* a way to say that they're right and you're wrong.

Didn't a flight stewardess like r@p3 a 16 yo? Its slightly old news but wtf

Yeah like no one talks about how Talia (Damian’s mom) raped Batman and that how Damian was conceived

@@earthtohannah6260that’s only in some versions, in other versions it was consensual

@@Prynce_P1 true sorry that’s the way it was rewritten technically now it’s canon because of the most recent dc reboot but the original was consensual

if it was up to him she’d be dead!

He's gonna be walking up to them with a crowbar with malicious intent

Depends on which version

They won’t

​@@thegamingbendu what about the boys

​@@thegamingbendu they will. It's kind of integral to his son's story.

They showed a guy crawling into another guy's @#$# . I don't think they're above doing this.

@@Theonea883 the boys wants to be edgy, and dark, but they just do violence, and not really on the actual fucked parts of things happening. Example they have a real Nazi racist that never actually says a slur of any kind, unlike the source material, they kinda PG it up and make the show more black and white then the comic.

*spits out drink*

First time Mr Grayson? Yes it is Mr Grayson! Have a seat Mr Grayson. Thank you Mr Grayson!

Dude...

Really?

@@Dr_Mundo yeah, in the Books/Comics Invincible/Mark was raped by a Viltrumite for those that need to know.

it took me 5 seconds to find a commenter say that "it should have been me instead"....😐 You will begin to cough in 7 days

​@@monovatherealestwell lonely sad men gonna do anything to get layed

Including the writer. Nowadays they just try to pretend it didn't happen.

That was the original version, and the version I go by, Bruce being date raped. Talia is hot. Talia is also out of her mind

This is one of the reasonings and excuses used on rape victims in defense of the rapist.

I remember in the movie they play it off as a joke...

It was also handled poorly but for different reasons. Their canon relationship had a lot of problems and wasn't exactly healthy, he wants to punch criminals dressed as a bat for a living and she's the daughter of the immortal leader of a centuries old murderous cult. It's a lot. But for all the back and forth and nuts comic storylines they were in love. Then along came Grant Morrison. As an aside I am always up for his comics but he's not an easy writer to champion. I totally get his flaws and his annoying habits but think he's an interesting writer when he's off doing his own thing. For this story it's there because he just kinda thought that's what happened. Like sure they might have had a loving relationship or maybe Talia drugged him. Who can know? It was very controversial at the time with a lot of readers and his lazy approach to adding it didn't help. Afterwards there wasn't much of a push to include it because it didn't make a lot of sense and was literally a retcon. Also DC comics so the entire universe has been rebooted a few times since then. So glossed over sure but because it wasn't supposed to be their backstory and now isn't. A lot of poor choices, a lot of Grant Morrison choices but not same terrible choices by DC in regards to Nightwing where this was always canon.

I enjoyed some of Thalia's moments in comics and in the og version of the story where she has a child with Bruce, it is pretty much consensual (they get married beforehand and Bruce is thrilled to have a child). Then Morrison comes along and turns her into a villain. I am a Doom Patrol enthusiast but sometimes Morrison makes choices... They admitted that they didn't read the og story, after all. That was character assassination and as such the SA version of the story is controversial (and often portrayed as a racist decision). There are many retcons for this reason. I really dislike the way that they glossed over the assault in the movie, however. (Just saw that someone above my comment said something similar😅)

Which “Spider-Man” disease are you referring to

@@jugcomics The torturing of well liked characters for no reason.

The long lasting effects of "the 90s"

@@jugcomics There’s rarely a Spider-Man comic where Peter doesn’t take at least on psychological L. Every likable character that is the physical embodiment of something positive is put through some fucked up shit. Like when Spider-Man got cucked by Osborne. Nightwing is DCs equivalent of Spider-Man.

​@@MrWongWey that's a yikes

Then nobody cares .__.

I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you got the help you needed

@@jugcomics thank you so much🙏🏽 and yeah I think I did after years of therapy, at least for the most part, but I never forget. It's always stuck their in that dark place in my mind.

​@@reel1tv587 I hope you get better 😢🙏

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

This does not happen in real life lmao

​​@@Wisdom-zv6zq "This does not happen in real life lmao" - dude who should change his name because it clearly does not suit him

@@Wisdom-zv6zqthe smartest feminist:

respectfully, what the fuck are you saying, both invincible's & nightwing's SA case were crtically acclaimed

what

@@danieljayne the same thing happened in invincible comics... Nd it was praised as an amazing story telling

​@@BalbirYaduvanshi07 because these two were just weird and came out of nowhere they didn't even have importance in the story it just happened then was brushed off

Because both of these ended up characterizing dick as secretly enjoying it. Which is wrong. In invincible it was done where he was shown as a real victim

I also think it happened to Captain Britain from Marvel. The guy, not the current one.

@@biecie I knew what you meant, I don’t know why Marvel took the name after DC was already using it

@@daemonlynn7616 DC was using the name Captain Britain? Or we you mistaken with Captain Marvel?

@@biecie my bad I mistakenly read that wrong

This happened before Invincible was even a comic.

​@Liyid For some reason he always has a really nice ass??? XD

​@@Liyid Dick has a big firm butt.😆

​@Liyid Nightwing has a fatty, lol

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me. 😊

Talia roofied Bruce- the crazy got passed on

omg tim tooo!!! which issue that happened ???

Don’t blame the fictional character,blame the writer

if you mean in the animated show then it was by consent they were just getting so freaky the viewers got it messed up

that was non-canon

@@DamnCredibleFart 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

​@@ahmadabouanaas2603 Your last comment doesn't seem like you agreed with it. I don't see how it is canon. An animated movie always happen in an alternate continuity while all the comics are happening in the main continuity. Are you saying that this animated movie is canon to the comic or main continuity?

@@The_Mad_Titan_420 🤓🤓🤓🤓um actually 🤓🤓🤓🤓 what are you talking about

Thank you

Thank you

@@jugcomics thank you

Wait “luck”? That’s scary boii

Exactly! That's what I said. She clearly assaulted him

Wrong. It was the writers fantasy.

DC makes some crazy decisions!

Can relate

@@_Observer_961 hello Tim Drake

Batman was also raped by talia and i think another time idk but fo sure by talia and technically Damien is a rape baby

@@jugcomics hi

Take my money

SOMEONE HAS TO. IF I COULD DRAW IT WOULD BE ME

Actually, it would be better if Jason also got involved with the party. Out of all members of the Batfamily, Jason hates rape more than anyone (Felipe Garzonas, people?), and we know he has a soft spot for his family, so really, he should have a say on how to punish the woman who raped his older brother. Double points if Mirage is also brought to trial and punished as well. Maybe Jason can cut their heads off and stuff them in a duffel bag? 😂, oh that duffel bag deserves more credit than it gets for supporting all that weight of eight human heads..

No Fanfic😊

Take all my money

I want people to boycott DC comics and ensure they learn their lesson before they lose sales for this..

Then I think fan fic writers have used the 'multiple instances' to comment on victim blaming, slut shaming, how some victims can internalise that sexualization that was forced apon them etc. And created really grounded stories. Also I'm imagining shit or wasn't there also a comic where dick was 16, fresh in bludhaven and some woman uses a sexual relationship to manipulate him? That bloody counts too.

@@gingivitis9148 I don't know about that one, but my point is having him S.A.d already opens all of the important points without giving him additional trauma to work through.

And these white beta male hacks at dc and marvel scratch their heads and wonder why the comics sales are going downhill at dc and marvel

And hopefully he never will

True! However, Ultimate Peter Parker Was a Tad close. That Peter Life Was Something 😳

Well Peter was actually molested and possibly raped when he was younger in one story line so who knows

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

Ain't no way you think getting raped is anywhere close to as traumatic as what peter's being through nah bro its not even close

If I ever create my onscreen DC universe once I become a writer-director, don't worry, I shall keep that in mind. I protect our man with all my heart and destroy the wicked who hurt our boy. He shall be free!

other men say that tho

I see a lot of people from both genders and all walks of life saying that in this comment section tbh

I hope people are aware that many men actually do enjoy when such a circumstance occurs but it certainly isn't every male. That generalization has to stop. A lot of men can't even mention that they were raped and be taken seriously.

@@samalexander2712 Nightwing definitely didn’t like it though bro was paralyzed and raped by Big booty Latina and had to watch in pain

@@mrdefault582productions7 Funny thing is, he does mention that afterwards he liked it for Tarantula, which is why it's not a great example of a male being a rape victim to a woman.

She never got punished for this and nobody talks about this ever again

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

I agree.

Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.

they probably feel worse when they are done by other men

@@jackiejackyjaqy...7219 straight emasculated

😂 wtf

@@maul8384 yes it's true 💀

pls fire that man

I'm pretty sure they were just getting freaky in that one

Batman and harley quinn? Dawg that one was consensual 💀

That was consentual

Finally someone brought that up too cuz I didn't like how they handled Nightwing in that movie at all 💀 I still love Harley Quinn but damn, that screen rubbed me the wrong way. Nightwing couldn't push Harley away or do anything because he was tied up to a bed, and everyone saying it's consensual just cuz he got a b*ner ?? Harley took advantaged of him in that same moment like Mirage and Tarantula did; and it fucking disappoints me that people like the one in these replies fail to see that.

@@LilMxShivani wait IDK what i was thinking of, this is the batman and harley Quinn movie right? If so they were literally just having a fuckin tickle fight if i remember correctly

Maybe even three since it happened to this Grayson twice

It fucking sucks to be a Grayson fr

Actually, worse, I heard it happened 3 times. The third one is some Asian girl whose name I forgot about, and they say she did it while he was 17. How despicable! 😡

Damm just don’t have the last name Grayson I guess

​@@The_Alien_HimselfI read a comment that Tim was *about* to get gRaped but Cassandra stopped it before it went too far.

cuz people get raped irl and seeing a strong character go through the same thing but still come out on top might help them deal with their own demons

Bingo, it's about saving people from despair and potential psychological trauma that could ruin their life or lead to suicide or worse

@@jasonalvarado7029 that’s not the reason though. the writer of the tarantula scene was a nightwing fetishist who leaned into his oversexualization and even called this moment not r8pe but a “non-consensual love making scene”, and not to mention tarantula is a self insert character SHE created. it was treated as kinky by the writer.

No that was actually consensual. The roofied thing was a retcon due to one writer forgetting how it originally happened. He later changed it back to consensual hence why its not treated as a big deal later.

Glad you brought that up cuz the amount of people who mention or bring up Batman being a r*pe victim by Talia is shockingly few, it's so sad.

@@LilMxShivani Because it was a retcon that was later retconned itself. It was originally consensual.

This is batman he isn't going to get traumatized over rape like come on he has faced and suffered much worse

I know 😞

Holy shit it’s Redhood

@@1stCommentCop holy shit it’s me