When They Won't Decide: Understanding Why a Spouse Won't Commit Either Way

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Samuel discusses the struggle of an unfaithful spouse who continues to go back and forth between their affair partner and their spouse.

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@melodykubiak5850
@melodykubiak5850 2 жыл бұрын
What I take away from this video is that the unfaithful is not in love with two people but with themselves. This behavior is not love.
@katielung6515
@katielung6515 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with u - he is in it for himself, my eyes are slowly opening
@SarahBHayes
@SarahBHayes 5 жыл бұрын
This is really good advice! Betrayed please hear this clearly! Trust, I’m feeling extremely empowered with my spouse out of the house because it sets a boundary that says “I’m not chasing you or checking up on your every move!” It’s No longer about you.. but about me; my healing, my happiness and my healthiness. You may come and go as you please, but you won’t do it here! And you certainly can’t text me & call me everyday seeking my attention... because you won’t get it!
@katiebr
@katiebr 4 жыл бұрын
Sarah Andrew exactly! I did this last week and he is being nice now and giving me attention, no thanks! I’m working on me and working on to be nice too.. but it definitely feels good to set boundaries, it was about time for me, I’m done suffering!! I’m done watching him doing nothing! I won’t allow him to hurt me anymore!
@FaithJoelle55
@FaithJoelle55 4 жыл бұрын
Yup!! I'm on the same page. It's been 3 weeks since my husband has been gone. The first week he was coming and going. I put my foot down and set boundaries. He hasn't been by in a week and we limit convo to the kids, bills ans business. I feel empowered!!!
@katielung6515
@katielung6515 2 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
@foodieg4054
@foodieg4054 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what i am going through right now. My spouse had his affair partner pregnant. He says he wants to make this marriage work, but all i see are empty words with no effort to make this work at all. We are living separately now, and he told me he is done with me and that i make sure to take care of our child. That was our last conversation. So tired of the push and pull though. You are right.
@lelamaciolek1166
@lelamaciolek1166 3 жыл бұрын
This video really laid out my boundriness approach. From all kinds of directions, I was feeling guilty for wanting them. It helps to hear from the Unfaithfuls side that yes, it's a need even if the I'm hearing that I'm making life too unreasonable.
@lifeturnaround8265
@lifeturnaround8265 Жыл бұрын
I stayed 9 days after discovery. She asked to separate and 1 day later a divorce. I should’ve left after a 1 min discussion. The thought of her giving her heart a someone 30 years in her past, was to much to bear. It’ll take time to move on, but knowing she moved on, while married to me, is enough to close the book on our 27 year marriage.
@kathyconstantinou1585
@kathyconstantinou1585 Жыл бұрын
So true!!’ My husband has been so confused for over three years now because of his affair. Back and forth between me and his affair partner. It has killed me and both our families.
@briangooch4282
@briangooch4282 6 жыл бұрын
First off, I want to thank you again for these vlogs that you do for us. These are one of the few things that I believe helps me keep my sanity throughout this ordeal. This topic is where I am in my marriage right now with my wife going to be with her affair partner when I'm at work and her having him at my house when I'm away on a business trip for 5 days at a time. It is difficult for me to draw the boundaries that need to be drawn, especially since we have a 6 month old son together. But I do agree that boundaries need to be put in place, and I have already started that process by getting a lawyer and getting divorce paperwork drawn up.
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
very sorry for the pain Brian. i'm so glad you're taking care of yourself though and drawing boundaries. i know it hurts like hell, but it appears she has forced your hand to draw these tough boundaries. you'll be glad you did though to protect yourself.
@biancaopala99
@biancaopala99 18 күн бұрын
Amén My husband has been confused whether to choose me (his wife) or affair partner and I cannot believe I found this video
@jenamyallen
@jenamyallen 3 жыл бұрын
Adding his bipolar to this scenario has me struggling so much. Thank you for the info. I needed to hear this. I know he loves us both. It is a nightmare. Our children keep me grounded.
@LoveNLIL
@LoveNLIL 2 жыл бұрын
He does not love you both. He loves you both loving him.
@dan-lansingmi9169
@dan-lansingmi9169 2 жыл бұрын
Someone may as tell you. He is a narcissist - can not be healed unless he totally commits his life to Jesus.
@melvinbergado4969
@melvinbergado4969 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is really hard because I'm suffering from the same situation my wife has bipolar too and what's really puts me on the edge of giving up is that she mothered a child from this affair and to make things worst is they're still living together.
@angus10538
@angus10538 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is where I am, and she is not interested in getting help. I am taking care of myself, and it is time for boundaries. Just learned a week ago that the 'friendship' continues. No care or concern for me in all this, 10 months of hell, but life goes on as pretend normal, which it is not by any means. This is very useful.
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
sorry Angus. i'm glad you're here though and i'm glad you're utilizing boundaries. take care my brother. thinking of you.
@BeautyByAsumbal
@BeautyByAsumbal 5 жыл бұрын
hi samuel.. what if the betrayed spouse wont commit? i mean he didnt want to commit to the marriage nor is he leaving the unfaittful spouse? how would we go about that?
@mshangran5555
@mshangran5555 5 жыл бұрын
My husband of 34 years told me he was in love with someone else 4 months ago. He had a 3 yr affair with her. At first he wanted to bring her home and have me be friends with her and he said he'd no longer have a sexual relationship with her. I said "NO WAY"! In a nutshell, it took him one month to completely cut it off with her. Now, he seems to have totally committed to me and us, but it's a roller coaster ride, and I am dealing with extreme swings on feeling it'll work out to feeling much grief and despair. How do we recover by ourselves, because we have no money at all for any counseling, and he wouldn't go to one anyway. He is now telling me to not worry and everything will be ok and he loves me so much. On the other hand, he says he doesn't really regret the affair because I think he feels it was such a "connection" and that it must've been serious and intensely beautiful to him. He misses her, and at the same time, he says he loves me more and will never ever leave me. The story is much longer and more involved, of course. I want to move forward in healing. Help!
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 5 жыл бұрын
here is our scholarship application: www.affairrecovery.com/scholarship-application-request you can apply for a scholarship to any and all of our online programs which you can find here: www.affairrecovery.com/programs-and-courses/online-courses you'll be able to gain a ton of ground through the online courses. that is going to be the best route for you my friend.
@sakurasakura2892
@sakurasakura2892 2 жыл бұрын
Are you still together? It seems like your husband isnt really remorseful.
@ednisep6554
@ednisep6554 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I was going through now I said no more I move to another room in the house I cook whenever I feel like I stopped doing his laundry clean after him. He lies to me so much I don't know what to believe anymore.
@katrinajacobs2280
@katrinajacobs2280 4 жыл бұрын
So relatable
@georgevue8175
@georgevue8175 Жыл бұрын
When I caught her cheating I moved out for 3 years and returned to a lonely spouse & a son who needed his dad, then she pissed me off again and I moved out for another 4 years stopping by every weekend to pickup my son.
@juiceknot
@juiceknot 2 жыл бұрын
I left. I’m on the opposite coast. Don’t know if she’s still with her now 22year old affair partner, who has an illegal girlfriend, and was kicked out the group house. Don’t care. Don’t care if she’s struggling to live in one of the most expensive cities in the country, on one income, the affair partner doesn’t work. He was a food truck worker. Don’t care what she’s going through. Her choice. She made her bed.
@stephanapatterson6319
@stephanapatterson6319 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same woth porn, back and forth between me and the imaginary woman. It's excruciating.
@sarahwitherell2000
@sarahwitherell2000 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Is there a video on when the unfaithful does end up having a child with the AP? I’m dealing with this now and it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever faced in my life. I know it’s also hard for him because he wants to be a good father to the child but he will now have contact with his AP forever. We tried to work it out after I first found out, set boundaries ect, then He cheated with her again and I got no explanation why other than it was a mistake. I don’t know how I can even begin to deal with that myself. Even though he still says he wants to save our family and relationship.
@blueseptember2174
@blueseptember2174 2 жыл бұрын
Sarah are you doing okay now? That's is such a difficult situation. Hugs!
@texasswade8453
@texasswade8453 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. If she doesn’t want me from d-day, it is done. It’s proof that she holds no value in me.
@brettleffew1725
@brettleffew1725 5 жыл бұрын
What if everything is so blatantly open and I have a child and my child is being used as that circle back for her my greatest fear is another man gets around my son so she knows that and uses that to be at my home to watch my son and be here for my son.... So I'm here on my weekend off spending a day as a married couple get home and she pretty ups to leave to go out with affair partner for night till next morning as I'm going to work .
@jennsnow4390
@jennsnow4390 4 жыл бұрын
Any advice? I set boundaries about the emotional affair my husband was having and he left 9 months ago. Ofcourse after it became physical the affair ended. I’ve always maintained I forgive him and want to restore our marriage but he still hasn’t decided and says ‘counseling is not for him’. What’s my next boundary? I feel like we’re running out of options.
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 4 жыл бұрын
i'm sorry. it's just sad he would do that. counseling not being for him is unacceptable as he needs expert help as do you. without that, you just won't make it. i would use these two resources to identify where you can draw boundaries and how you can enforce them. www.affairrecovery.com/newsletter/founders/how-get-mate-cooperate www.affairrecovery.com/survivors/samuel/they-get-say-no-life-going-change if you feel that that is a non negotiable, then i would draw boundaries like separation and considering divorce as well. if he refuses to get help, it's an enormous red flag my friend. i'm terribly sorry.
@vanessafork
@vanessafork 2 жыл бұрын
What does it mean when my unfaithful spouse said that he is wanting to find himself and he wish he is single again not because he wanted to be in a different relationship but because he wanted to find himself again. Because he made the wrong choice to be in an affair. Yet he is not willing to seek professional help.
@JessBFreed
@JessBFreed 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Samuel. I am suspect my spouse has had an emotional affair but consistently denies it. I have encountered much evidence to make me believe so, such as inappropriate text messages, pictures sent and received, various complements from lady in question to my spouse, change of intimacy, and change in spouse's behavior. My observation tells me we are in the phase described in this video but every time I bring it up, it brings us further apart. I feel if we separate in order to encourage more committment he will fornicate...I'm so perplexed. What should I do?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
hi Jess. it's a tough spot to be in for sure. if opportunity is what decides his loyalty something is wrong and concerning. i would do all you can to get help for you. something like our harboring hope course found here: www.affairrecovery.com/product/harboring-hope i would also ask him to get help and take this course: www.affairrecovery.com/product/hope-for-healing if the treatment protocol doesn't change, it's obvious there won't be any change to his actions and refusal to act out. does that make sense?
@theadventuresoftommyandshawna
@theadventuresoftommyandshawna 2 жыл бұрын
What about if this is how the betrayed partner is feeling. How do I as an unfaithful partner who wants desperately to save our marriage, deal with my betrayed partner who hasn't committed either way after 7 months. It feels like records purgatory.
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
well, remember, if they are the betrayed spouse, they are dealing with an immense amount of pain, hurt and betrayal. so to rush them, even after 7 months may be asking a lot. now, i don't know the severity of the infidelity, but keep in mind they are devastated. i would keep doing your own work, and working extremely hard on you. perhaps asking them periodically to get help and do some repair work will help. i don't know enough about your situation to know but i would make your own healing and relapse prevention and empathy development a major part of your healing.
@elsaperez1679
@elsaperez1679 6 жыл бұрын
What about if my spouse left me and still denies he has somebody else and everything points to that
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
i think you have to work on you and heal you. if all signs point to that, I'd work towards forgiveness and setting yourself free and your own healing for new life ahead. while he may deny it, if you know that there was someone else, then it will require you to find help to pursue your own recovery. harboring hope will help you for sure: www.affairrecovery.com/product/harboring-hope also you'll want an expert therapist to assist you in your recovery as well my friend. glad you're here.
@ktabuena
@ktabuena 6 жыл бұрын
So what if it is a scenario as you described where the affair partner is pregnant? And your spouse has chosen to be with her instead?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
sadly, it's one of the hardest to deal with. i would completely shift focus to working on you and your own recovery. i'm sorry for the delay. we had notification issues.
@stargazingshel8315
@stargazingshel8315 6 жыл бұрын
This is my situation also except i ended it 3 weeks b4 he told me shes pregnant. Work colleges at work hes known her 2 yrs. We was in relationship for 6 and we have a child together also. He claims to love us both.
@andraacram
@andraacram 4 жыл бұрын
Overcoming Infidelity that is and a video on it is much needed. There are more of us out there dealing with this than you likely realize. But, thank you for all the ones you have made. They have really helped validate much of what I thought I knew already and have left me with some gold nuggets here & there. Been dealing with this for too long sad to say.
@gingerqtee
@gingerqtee 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video about the 1st scenario where unfaithful spouse gets the affair partner pregnant and you are trying to save the marriage?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 4 жыл бұрын
unfortunately I do not my friend. i'm very sorry. cindy beall wrote a book about her situation where that happened though and you can find that one on amazon i believe.
@jaytee1194
@jaytee1194 3 жыл бұрын
@@samshealingpodcast Can you make one please? It would be a great help for anyone who doesn’t like to read. Thanks 🙏
@pattiblake2091
@pattiblake2091 6 жыл бұрын
What should you do if you find out that the affair partner has over 30 alias and you are really worried that they have a hidden agenda and possibly your spouse is in on it?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
i would focus on getting the best, expert level help you could . crazy affair partners like that are tough to deal with so you need expert help. Rick at affair recovery is the best resource for that. have you considered the ems weekend at all? www.affairrecovery.com/product/ems-weekend i would give that a look and see if you can do it. the reality is, you both need to get expert help and then consider a lie detector as well. we have a few resources in austin that do polygraphs if you need them.
@fedup_gal1573
@fedup_gal1573 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Samuel, Do you know or have you any idea of a good lie detector in the State of Minnesota?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
hi there. i'm very sorry but I don't have any connections with anyone there. I bet you can google them and then ask them some questions about their history, experience etc. that way you can vet them out. also, most experienced polygraphers will help you identify questions you need to ask to be able to get to the answers you're looking for.
@spinnerii
@spinnerii 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Samuel, do you know of any infidelity specific therapists in the Houston area?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
hi Joe. there is a guy in katy named matthew barnhill who is a great guy and therapist and friend. I would tell him that I sent you and see if he has one on staff. I would also consider coming to the ems weekend in Austin since you're in houston. that may be the best use of your time and money my friend.
@xplxy
@xplxy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. My husband admitted he has another woman that he likes but only platonic so far. However she is not unimportant to her and he wants to continue the relationship in case our marriage doesn't work. He wants to give it 6 months. Our marriage is not in a good place right now. But I want to make it better. Do you think I should just ignore the relationship?
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 4 жыл бұрын
i think ignoring the relationship would guarantee disaster and would be you not standing up for yourself or drawing boundaries around your marriage, your self esteem and dignity and the fidelity a marriage should require.
@mistykellam4029
@mistykellam4029 2 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@marissamark4142
@marissamark4142 6 жыл бұрын
hey i cheated eight years ago on my husband he now found out one month now ive tried every thing. i told him everything he ask but like nothing i say or do is helping i just dont know any more. im so tired he left for a while to clear his head but we spoke but no change what can i do. i love my husband it was so long ago and i never did it again.
@samshealingpodcast
@samshealingpodcast 6 жыл бұрын
you need to get expert help as soon as possible. if he won't get help, you can at least go and get help. you can take this course on affair recovery.com called hope for healing for unfaithful spouses; www.affairrecovery.com/product/hope-for-healing there is a scholarship you can apply for as well: www.affairrecovery.com/scholarship-application-request if he wont get help, at least you can and at least you can start to get healthy. you can't control what he does but you can control what actions you take to try and do repair work. as you show faithfulness to get healthy and own your actions, perhaps over time he will open up to getting help together.
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