See, Honey. The lads said I NEED new wedges!!! 😂🤣😂🤣
@OpaKnows4 жыл бұрын
See, honey? 40 to 50 rounds a year is just AVERAGE. Don't you want me to be the best I can be?
@NomadJoe03234 жыл бұрын
I loved Ian’s reaction when he heard that Matt had played about a 100 rounds over the past year. Matt’s been out playing while Ian’s had his nose to the grindstone.
@willl52504 жыл бұрын
"Hey honey! I need new wedges!" "?" "...TXG said so, standard deviation and stuff"
@adamhartman43124 жыл бұрын
I have a little experiment maybe try sharpening Matt’s old wedge grooves and see if you can bring them back to life and give them a tighter grouping
@nickmirabito24 жыл бұрын
Love the video fellas! How about adding a scenario where you sharpen the grooves on an old wedge?
@camchann4 жыл бұрын
Nick Mirabito I second this!!
@andrevanwyk11104 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts as well!👍
@bartscholten4764 жыл бұрын
rick shiels has an vid off doing that
@MarkSmith-lz5rk3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see this too
@PGRPGRPG3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it illegal?
@Ipwnnoobs74 жыл бұрын
I literally just bought a wedge set 30 minutes ago and then this video comes out - coincidence? I think not! Great video!
@m0rbidr00ster64 жыл бұрын
You guys still set the standard for youtube golf analysis. Hilarious comment about the Driver being the most changed out club. Rewound the video to relive that comment. Very true.
@jackyzhang20474 жыл бұрын
Great content, my wedges are about two years old and I practice 6 hours a day, watching this video made me realize maybe that’s why I can’t get spin 😂 just got fitted for my wedges, can’t wait for them to come
@scottmanthey35494 жыл бұрын
I just need to show this to my wife every time I tell her I need new wedges! I play 50-60 rounds a year with lots of wedge practice so I tend to replace them every season.
@SChester-nv2me4 жыл бұрын
When do i know when to replace my wedges? its so easy. when its in the bottom of the lake.
@84668494 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of playing golf with people who throw temper tantrums
@SChester-nv2me4 жыл бұрын
Well, you must be fun at parties
@detaildon4 жыл бұрын
@@8466849 doesn't have to be a temper tantrum. Perhaps just a nice burial at sea.
@babutler834 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you guys would be into doing a video like this but it's an idea... might be something that either of you could take to do with Larry Chung during a lesson if he'd be into it. Have Matt walk through a proper warm-up (static stretching, mobility, dynamic movement, golf swings (optional), etc) on camera and then do a TPI type of golf specific mobility screening. This sort of content could help us viewers understand, to some degree, how and why Matt's swing can as smooth and stable as it is while remaining powerful. If viewers follow along with the video, they might find some areas where they can improve their own games through a bit of fitness. As always, I really enjoy and find tons of value in the content you guys are creating. I hope you keep it up for a long time to come.
@mackenziehoyle21684 жыл бұрын
Wish you guys did a comparison between a new wedge, slightly used wedge and a very beat up wedge. My wedges are getting pretty beat up and wouldve been nice to see. Good video either way boys
@TheVanDamminator4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The golfer who is buying new wedges every year or so is not the same golfer Matt references when he says "most golfers are hitting their wedge on every hole." That golfer is the one who probably replaces his wedges every 5 or 10 years. That golfer isn't thinking about it. They're thinking driver.
@sterlingjuarez4 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of thing I absolutely need, thank you!
@ltpga-lessthanperfectgolfe10434 жыл бұрын
Conversely to the old wedge test, maybe a follow up after a groove tool or tools if you'd like to review those at that time and do a double test of regrooving and which is best for the job. Love the channel and am spreading the word. Cheers!
@andrewchung36234 жыл бұрын
Can you do a test comparing fresh wedges and refinished wedges?
@gvl1234564 жыл бұрын
You could try sharpening the older wedge grooves, like your weekend hack would probably do. Great video!
@richardvaughan55334 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I've just ordered new wedges as I felt mine just didn't stack up anymore. This just confirms the purchase and love the videos. Keeping them coming.
@bobnokley4 жыл бұрын
The most honest golf videos on the web.
@anthonycsimmons72154 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. I usually replace my wedges when Titleist comes out with a new model and the previous generation go on sale and i have found that works very well for me. Still have friends that treat wedges like any other club and would never consider replacing them.
@barrymills85974 жыл бұрын
Mattie boys got those wedge shots on a string. Looking forward to seeing you guys on the golf course. Enjoyable as always.
@andrewwolf49634 жыл бұрын
ITS RALLLLLLY TIME BOYS WOOOOOO ALMOST 100k
@namutwigim57544 жыл бұрын
Sweet justification! My old wedges are like 6 yrs old, and I just got fitted into the same wedges as you Matt, can't wait!
@stephenmoxley30044 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys. I've been thinking about replacing my wedges for all of the reasons you highlighted. Now, I'm convinced! Keep up the good work.
@MikeJones100_4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered new wedges today and this video helps justify my purchase lol. Old ones were about 2 years old possibly 3, Can’t remember. Def due for the upgrade. Great video!
@jacobmccain80824 жыл бұрын
Same boat here. I have 2 sets of SM8s this go around. A 58D-54S as my stock and 58M-54D for courses that are firmer/require more lofted shots. I have a SkyTrak and hit at least a couple hundred wedges per week in practice. Played PM Grind 19 last year and went from around 10500 on a full shot all the way down below 9000 by the time I replaced them.
@jacobfry22594 жыл бұрын
Yes please. Compare the new wedge vs. 5 year old wedge. Should be very interesting results
@skylarsteel914 жыл бұрын
It was interesting to see the old 60 getting more spin than the new. However the mizuno was much tighter in standard deviation between shots. 10 years ago, I’d tell you I’d rather more spin than tighter tolerance. Today I’d rather consistency because I’ve seen how much more beneficial it is. Great video Ian and Matt
@Mboogie694 жыл бұрын
Definitely showing this to the wife to “prove” my wedge purchases. Lol
@lowcodelucas10884 жыл бұрын
You need approval from your wife to buy new wedges?
@Mboogie694 жыл бұрын
No, but I get questioned about it. Lol
@bobbykrechuniak88754 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Makes me think it's time for some new wedges lol
@MK3554 жыл бұрын
Another great video, have loved the bag set up work
@garytirohn94094 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing on the replacing wedges video. I just ordered my new Mizuno T-20 wedges to replace my old Mizunos. BTW any update on how both of you are doing with the Tour Striker Planemate? My daughter is looking for some Father’s Day ideas.
@coobay9784 жыл бұрын
Excellent test. And I also would like to see new compared to 5 year old wedge. I play with a 54 deg Wilson TW9 and I have definitely seen a difference in stopping spin from now to when it was new.
@84668494 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have been trying to not practice full swings too much with my SW and LW to "save" groove wear. I use my set wedge more on the range for that reason.
@simonbratt72604 жыл бұрын
So, I'm right in wanting a wedge fit asap? I love my Cleveland 588s, but they are 10 years old now! 😉 Great work, chaps!
@richardnigro97124 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do some testing outdoors. Not just for wedges but other clubs as well.
@ryang19104 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have kept Testing vokey to vokey. For me not using the same wedges changed some variables
@Ryan-fx7jx4 жыл бұрын
Well you'd have to find a new set of SM7's if you want to do that test - there's an appreciable difference between SM8 and SM7. It won't make THAT much of a difference. The number you're looking at is the standard deviation, which is clearly a lot tighter with new wedges
@stevef40104 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-fx7jx Tons of new SM7s out there on ebay and other sites.
@lroberts41624 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks guys.
@zacharymilos3924 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see massive changes on perfect dry lies, but I agree, where I would expect to see a big discrepancy would be from the rough and/or wet conditions. Would love it if you guys could do this test again as you described with the rough or wet conditions with various aged wedges. Awesome stuff guys.
@ronaldmarcelo94564 жыл бұрын
Alright **clap** guys welcome back... Officially a TXG video.
@stlc34154 жыл бұрын
Nice content and video! Keep up the great work...
@wallstreetoneil4 жыл бұрын
For me, now that I'm practicing my short game a lot, it all boils down to trajectory. A new and clean wedge with a dry face and a premium ball you can repeat the trajectory - once any of that changes, the way the ball leaves the face is pure chance; and for Pros, who have amazingly high putt percentages inside 8 feet, versus longer than 8 feet, there is real money left on the table - and thus they change their wedges all the time - if you don't have a repeatable wedge swing, this would be a non issue completely.
@zacknewman66974 жыл бұрын
Love this idea, but now I want to see when to replace all the clubs. I have 5+ year old driver/woods and irons, have the technology advanced far enough to make a difference?
@clubchampionmedia4 жыл бұрын
after 5 years, yes probably
@andrewwolf49634 жыл бұрын
y’all should do this test with SM8s vs Original Spin Milled vokeys
@tommyboston79764 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos guys 👍🏻👍🏻
@nathwak4 жыл бұрын
not sure those differences are large enough to justify a new wedge set for me. but i will reserve proper judgment until you guys do the outdoor test. great video guys
@HanJin9074 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Love this channel. For part 2 (new vs. old vs. older) would you be able to use the same make, model, lie angle, bounce, etc. wedges?
@thatguymark83814 жыл бұрын
Do you remember the scene in The Big Lebowski when the Dude has his walkman on, listening to bowling sounds? Hearing the dirty dog hit wedge after wedge ... kinda relaxing
@keithmchugh25584 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a taylormade rac tp vs new mg2 wedge as I still play it in 58* and still has good spin for playing in west of Ireland. Love the videos and podcast keep it coming👍🏻
@nielsaxelsson4 жыл бұрын
Please do the New / Worn / Very worn comparison - will be very interesting to see and relevant for all of us :-)
@stevecernuto7404 жыл бұрын
I'll be interested to see the outside test. I didn't see any practical difference here. Carry to total distance was the same and 80 revs difference in standard deviation comes out to 4 or 5 revs during the 3 second flight of a shot. Thanks for doing this sort of testing
@camchann4 жыл бұрын
Please do the video with an older but “good condition” wedge!! I would love to see the numbers.
@andycarroll34 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the test on a flat green where the slope of the green does not affect distance to the hole.
@mangoman21484 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a video on those 'raw finish' rusted wedges. Some tour players claim they spin more when rusted but I've never seen that tested.
@ShotShySheriff4 жыл бұрын
When a new shiny one winks at you is of course the correct answer.
@philr.6664 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm curious as to how old irons compare to modern irons. I currently play the Titleist DCI 990's and they seem to perform pretty well, much better than the irons in my old box set.
@kensb24 жыл бұрын
I currently have SM5s that I purchased in 2015(?). I don't get to play nearly as much as Matt, but I'd say I have at least 100 rounds on them and some practice. As a higher handicap player whose technique isn't as good as Matty's, I'd be willing to bet I'm giving up even more performance. As always, I'd love to see this test done by a mid-handicapper as I feel it's a bit more relatable. Also, really hoping for an entire bag fitting next Spring.
@Pnode884 жыл бұрын
Still Ace for Matt lmao. He has been chasing one for ages now...
@awesomebillfromdawsonville87154 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@Aleks72344 жыл бұрын
This is interesting - I remember seeing an R&A video a while back that suggested the grooves made no difference at all to spin unless there was something between ball & face (ie rough, water), and that a totally flat faced club would perform the same from a clean lie. Is that not the case or has groove construction changed since then, or is it that the older, rough face actually has protrusions affecting spin?
@vidyuththattai10304 жыл бұрын
Watch a video by Rick Shiels, he tested a wedge with no grooves on it against one with grooves on it. The groove less was usable but it got half the spin of the grooves one
@Fadee4 жыл бұрын
i literally just bought 3 sm8's today and this comes out. what a coincidence and all of my wedges are around 2-3 years old
@random_dad994 жыл бұрын
So recently came across your channel and starting to play again with co workers after probably 10 years. Question I have, I have an old set of clubs that are maybe 15-20 years old. I want to get fitted to see if I need to get longer or shorter shafts etc. Is it bad etiquette to go to a place to get fitted and get fitted to the clubs I already have and not buy new clubs? Not really able to spend money on what new clubs cost these days with family and kids lol. Enjoy watching the videos and learning what I can 👍.
@littlesmitty4 жыл бұрын
I've got some old wedges from pre 2010 when they changed the groove rules if you want to test. The only issue for your team is that they are right handed.
@kevinhong10724 жыл бұрын
Could you please test out BETTINARDI HLX 3.0 WEDGES? It will be nice to see comparison video with other brands like Mizuno, Vokey wedges etc. Thanks so much. Love your channel.
@kevochanner88594 жыл бұрын
What about using the groove improvement tools? Will that bring back the performance?
@markmaioli44 жыл бұрын
I see all these comments about using a groove tool, but if you're not playing with V groove wedges (and who is?) then why would you do that? All wedges these days have specialized grooves which differ by company & some times within a wedge line. If you're using a groove tool you're changing the characteristics of the face.
@kevochanner88594 жыл бұрын
I have a tool that has square and v, but it would save me having to buy a new set of wedges every year if these results are confirmed.
@Jjwalways703 жыл бұрын
How about sharpening grooves guys , I’ve never done it , but is it something you do regularly in the shop or do you do it at all , I’ve always just gone and got new wedges .
@patrickkelly23944 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the difference between fitted clubs vs off the shelf stock clubs
@grigsbypoland32034 жыл бұрын
I think it's about how many times you hit the wedge more than how old it is. I'm guessing 1000 hits is probably close to the upper limit before consistency goes out the window if not before. I also think it's fair to say one should think about replacing their set after 300 rounds which at 40-50 swings/round (excluding putter) works out to 12000-15000 hits. But you have to adjust the number of rounds by how many range balls you also hit to come up with the 15000 hit total for the set. For example, I finally bought a new set of irons after 85 rounds and 17000 range balls.
@stevef40104 жыл бұрын
How about Forged vs cast (new and/or old?) or different metals....copper vs chrome plated. I
@prex3454 жыл бұрын
When I replaced my wedges I bought Callaway's one forged one cast, my forged wedge definitely shows it's age over the cast head. I will have to replace it after this season.
@justinemery48704 жыл бұрын
Is one raw one plated?
@Jefafa734 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious if they could do a similar test with a 7-iron. I've had the same wedges and irons since playing in high school (over 8 years ago, and we practiced every weekday). I definitely need new wedges, but I wonder if irons are as big of a difference? I really don't want to change irons if possible. Maybe a groove sharpener? I don't play in tournaments either, so I'm not worried about a mild groove sharpen to get some spin back and breaking any rules.
@davidcarnicom56354 жыл бұрын
You can buy one online for $10 u.s. i sharpen my irons atleast 2 times per year and i dont play that often.
@nateborowitz69874 жыл бұрын
During the outside testing could you talk about the difference in sand shot performance too?
@davidcarnicom56354 жыл бұрын
I dont expect to see much difference in the sand, unless you are a picker. You dont get much actually face contact with a conventional bunker shot. Still rough on the club face.
@nufantbsnofx4 жыл бұрын
Shots out of rough/bunkers would be a bigger difference as mentioned at the end. Would love to see how this shows up in the follow up outside at around 75-100 rounds
@jacksoni3494 жыл бұрын
Time to buy new wedges!!
@FlyboyAF224 жыл бұрын
Just feathering some 'ol wedges into 18 🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌
@FoolProof7774 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. I was checking out the txg site and noticed Matt isn’t listed on “The Team” page, does he only help out with the videos?
@treyperry97223 жыл бұрын
I bought my wedges used 8 years ago and have played 50-75 rounds a year since then. Might be time. Want to know what I bought 3 weeks ago? A RADspeed 😎
@dougholtz4 жыл бұрын
so MY dilemma is I have Rogue X irons, and these are really strong. the 9 iron is 36 degrees, the PW is 41 degrees. I can't really "pitch" with them, so I still carry an older forged P iron at 46 degrees and also a 50 and 58 degree newer wedge. What should I expect to use when I'm pitching less than "full" swing? 46, 50 or 58? Been practicing and can't come up with a direction. tnx
@timseebold23554 жыл бұрын
Great content! But what about rusty wedges? How does the rust effect the spin?
@skylarsteel914 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a very worn “new” iron like a heavily used T100 vs a brand new T100 and see if it makes a huge difference
@derekhoskins98544 жыл бұрын
Would of been nice to compare 2 of the same wedge worn and new. Would crossing brands account for some of the deviation in numbers
@waynethomas99574 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@l-ll_lnGl2Y Жыл бұрын
Please include a re-sharpened old wedge in your next test video. Does re-sharpened groves comparable to a new wedge?
@BenLowery4 жыл бұрын
Would it be better to not have the added face roughness? That might make the performance more consistent over time, with only a little loss of overall spin.
@emiliofedele34284 жыл бұрын
Would these numbers change on real turf? Wet conditions?
@andrewcarver36714 жыл бұрын
Guys what do you think about going back to old golf balls to stop hitting monster distance with balls they are playing now with. Will it stop hitting the balls 320 yards +
@playingbadgolfwell97323 жыл бұрын
Unless you're competing, I say resharpen your grooves, save the cash and enjoy. Admittedly, the problem is that sharpening the grooves (depending upon how much material from the grooves are removed) may make the wedge nonconforming depending upon the final depth and width of the post-sharpened grooves. On the other hand, outside of PGA Tour or European Tour events, I can't imagine any tour official ever double-checking players'' iron and wedge groove depth or width (or even having the equipment necessary to measure the grooves.)
@DavidSmith-lo7wf4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Most people play 40-50 rounds per year .... I wish! 5-10 more like it for me! 😞
@robbiles4 жыл бұрын
100 rounds a year on the course and 1000 rounds in the studio. No wonder Matt's swings on point. My life sux.
@DoneRightReviews4 жыл бұрын
Where do I buy that amazing blue shirt?
@randallpennington59764 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, if you want to get rid of any of your old drivers, I am a 49 yr old guy who used to swing 119 mph with the old steel drivers. I now still play a G30 lst if you do not want your 410 anymore let me know.
@davidcarnicom56354 жыл бұрын
Its probably time to get new wedges. I had mine for 4 years, and used to play topflight golf balls
@L1GHTHECANDLE4 жыл бұрын
So my 2009 vokey wedges with 40+rounds a year are done hey? I just don’t want to give them up.
@booksiebhoy4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got my CG 12s from high school still in my bag and I love them. Probably played 400+ rounds with them plus many practice sessions. I just got new irons and want to get fitted so I have better gapping. Also want conforming clubs so I don’t sweat people realizing they have the zip grooves haha
@annefilippobertozzi76013 жыл бұрын
Keep them in the fridge.
@Jjwalways704 жыл бұрын
Gday lads , correct me if I’m wrong guys , I’m thinking it’s all about groove wear in the wedges , groove wear relative directly to spin numbers , more spin equals more accurate distance control in the wedges , true or false boys. ...? The actual age of the wedges doesn’t really matter compared to groove condition . Ian what are your thoughts on groove sharpeners do they actually work .
@chrisjackson12664 жыл бұрын
My wedge might be as old as my dad. I'd love to see what that does. All I know is it was made by Wilson and says "Pitching Wedge" stamped on the bottom. No model name, no idea the loft, and the grooves are kind of, well, gone.
@BillyTheKidAudit4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it makes sense to just have the wedge grooves resharpened?
@clubchampionmedia4 жыл бұрын
could help, can't fix the face milling being worn out though
@3rdgroove4 жыл бұрын
@@clubchampionmedia and back in the day players were proud of their wear spot... (maybe the drop off wasn't as bad with the balatas?)
@markbennison21094 жыл бұрын
So you say you would go to 54/55 rather than 60 however your average prox to hole is 3ft closer on 60? Surely if you looked at strokes gained with those the 60 gains you more? Interested to hear your comments?
@PGRPGRPG3 жыл бұрын
M’y KZG’s are 12 years old from a club maker...
@ryrysmoke14263 жыл бұрын
And me just sitting here with my 13 year old CG12’s with the paint literally scraped off of the sweet spot from use wondering why the spin isn’t consistent
@annefilippobertozzi76013 жыл бұрын
Did you really need this video to guess it?
@gavin65354 жыл бұрын
Great video guys as always. There’s not enough of a drop off in my mind for your average Joe to change his/her wedges. 👍🏻
@rapidcat61134 жыл бұрын
I have the same viewpoint - for the average Joe. Higher level short game player yes, everyone else, get another couple of years out of your wedges, you (we) are not good enough to see the difference on the scorecard. Decent data as always from TXG, great to have such a controlled test pilot in Matt (acknowledging Matt that you also offer a lot of decent commentary and input beyond being an Iron Byron), love the objective content and encouraging application for the individual - with the lack of agenda approach.