The deer sure love them, especially when they first come out of the ground. Good luck.

It is amazing that even with the moderate density I have here, the deer hammer the beans as soon as they come out of the ground. That must be when they taste the best.

That does make sense and I will definitely do that. I have seen similar results from spreading a brassica blend in the summer into the beans. The next summer, there is still a carryover of the brassicas and that results in a lot of organic matter for the field. I disked mine under this spring, but I may drill right into that next spring and and see what happens. Have a great day.

Thanks for the comment Robert. Much appreciated.

I appreciate the comment. I hope you have a great day and good luck.

In both situations the weeds and grasses serve a purpose for at least part of the annual cycle. I do think they bare root stock trees and shrubs would grow faster if I removed the grasses, but then the deer would definitely hammer them. I will take a slower growth rate and a higher survival rate. Have a great day.

Thanks Chris. When did you plant the rye? I would want that up and growing before the beans come out of the ground or the deer and turkeys will still hammer the beans. Have a great day.

@@bill-winke we broadcast the rye last fall then drilled the beans into them

Thanks Edward. You too.

If your deer density is not high, it will be OK. Also, the nice thing about beans is that you can spread brassicas (I like the Whitetail Institute Winter-Greens blend) into the beans in late July and have a second crop in there, whether or not the beans do well. Good luck.

I think it would be OK. I just let the naturally growing weeds be my nurse crop. I am not sure if the oats/rye would get growing quickly enough to be of benefit. The weeds need to already be started in order to be tall enough to hide the beans when they pop out.

So far so good. I did have the gly resistant weeds in southern Iowa, but not here yet. I think the fat that so many farmers plant corn on corn is part of the reason. They can easily kill that stuff with herbicides that don't hurt corn. If I run into it here, I will try either crop rotation (to go corn/beans so I can kill it off) or I will just have to use the herbicide labeled for the beans to remove the weeds (such as Enlist for that hybrid). Good question.

Donald, what are they called? Thanks.

@@bill-winke I'm not sure my brother-in-law buys all the stuff for the farm

@@bill-winke called real world gen2 beans from real world wildlife products

I think the deer would stay away for a few days but once they saw it their long enough they would accept it. My friend and wildlife artist Larry Zach believed that if a person could stand still long enough, he could stand right in the middle of clover patch and eventually the deer would ignore him and feed in the patch. I think that would take a few days! And, if you were wonder, I am not going to be the one to test Larry's theory! Have a great day.

Justin, I bought them from a fellow in southeast Iowa that collects them to sell. There are a couple of people in Iowa that do that, at least that I have come across. Likely, there are others. Each state surely has a few that do it for a side business. You can do it yourself too, if you have the time. You need a "nut roller" and a place with closely mown ground that has a lot of oak trees (golf course, school, city park, state park, someone's lawn, etc.). I found this fellow by calling around to the state and independent foresters in Iowa asking them if they collect and sell and if not, do they know of anyone who does. That is the easiest route. You want to buy them from trees as near to the area you are seeding as possible so the seeds have been habituated to the climate there through decades of selection. Good luck.

I am just using glyphosate but so far I don't have any tolerant weeds here. Eventually that may change and I will have to use other options.

We currently have RU tolerant weeds that is why I was asking. Thanks. Bob

We also have tolerant weeds so I use glyphosate and 24D on the beans as long as they are enlist and Ru ready does a good job as long as not to late thanks Bill good 👍 video topic

Yes, among other things, I am sure. I don't know all the chemicals these can tolerate since I got a wide range of beans from the organizations where I could find them for free, but I am sure they are all at least RoundUp Ready. Have a great day.

If you have pigweed you prolly have a magnesium and calcium deficiency.

Nate, I suppose you could hit the pigweed and water hemp about ten days before planting the beans with 2,4-D and wipe that out allowing time for the residual to wear off before you plant the beans. Then, at least in theory, you would still have the grass there to protect your beans as they start to grow and then you could wipe them out later more easily. Good luck.

@@bill-winke I normally completely work the ground up so there's nothing there to spray prior to planting the beans. Since I only put in an acre and a half or so I'm not sure I could ever justify a no-till drill to plant into weeds. I have used Liberty beans which will smoke water hemp and pigweed but this year I have Enlist beans. I will be putting 24D on beans for the first time this year. I don't think we have such a ridiculous deer population here though and I don't really understand why. I'm 7 mi south of Don Higgins on the same Creek drain. I've heard him talk about the same lack of deer numbers as well. For me it's hard to comprehend all these huge doe #s.

You can do that. I have done that. The fence is kind of expensive. Can't remember the cost, but it is completely reusable so that makes it easier in the future. It is a lot of work to put up, maintain and then take down and put back in storage. But it definitely works.

You can always rescue with brassicas in late July. That is what I like about beans. It is pretty easy to rescue them if they fail. Good luck.