When to use a Clipper instead of a Limiter

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Audio Mountain

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Күн бұрын

The difference between limiters and clippers explained, including soft and hard clipping, as well as how to use them.
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@marcell.3058
@marcell.3058 23 күн бұрын
Excellent in every way!! In hardly 20 minutes you manage to explain everything that is essential in the matter, and you do it so well! All other videos fade against yours. I think it's just a matter of time until your reputation spreads. Of course you have a new subscriber. Thank you very much and all the best to you!!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 21 күн бұрын
That's so nice to hear! Thank you very much! Welcome aboard!
@vicneve1169
@vicneve1169 4 ай бұрын
By watching these Audio Mountain video's, for the first time I know when to use compression, limiting, clipping, expansion, upward compression and saturation. Awesome!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 4 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@wagnerbertolino2
@wagnerbertolino2 5 ай бұрын
After so many years doing it, for me I definitely feel like I'm going to a Sound School and actually making my money worth, with a difference that I'm not paying a dime. It's quite incredible. No one that I know on KZfaq that tries to teach all this stuff can come even close. Such a good command of the language as well. You have to know a lot in order to be able to explain it down in a way that anyone can understand fully like this.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
That's very nice of you to say. Thank you so much!
@mauricejones9834
@mauricejones9834 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Your channel is officially one of my favorite channels for deep understanding in a digestible manner. Keep up the great work Professor!!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@earledaniels4539
@earledaniels4539 5 ай бұрын
These are the best tutorials on KZfaq ☺. You deserve a lot of subscribers which I am sure will happen as viewers catch on.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad you like the videos. Happy mixing!
@corrosive135
@corrosive135 Ай бұрын
Love this channel. These videos are really helping me. Thank you 🤘
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 Ай бұрын
That's great to hear. Thank you!
@GomezEntertainment369
@GomezEntertainment369 5 ай бұрын
This guy just exceeds any youtube content ever made! And in terms of helpfulness, usefulness and the vast generosity of sharing information in the most positive and easy to understand way ever known to human kind. You are basically mother Teresa and you are healing ear lepracy. Thanks I wll show rep by liking and commenting all your content! Again thanks bud!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
That's very kind of you to say. Thank you! I'm sorry to hear about your ear leprosy but I'm glad you're doing better now 😂 Too funny!
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 5 ай бұрын
I used to have leprosy, but then Mother Teresa came round and gave me a clip round the ear. I'm cured!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 5 ай бұрын
That was a great lesson! 🙂👍 I'm glad I found this channel! I got my qualifications in Audio Engineering from The School of Audio Engineering in 1987, here in Australia (International School, local Studio). I did live work for a while, but it became unworkable with our band's booking schedule. 30 odd years of gigging later, 2021, my daughter bought me an Audio Interface. It's a totally different ball game, I've got so much to learn! The visuals are a great touch. Most times, like now, I come into my 'studio', which is sound treated, but not very sound proof, after the family has gone to bed. So while I have clarity at a very low volume, I can't really test the fine details until later. So often I mix, export the song, with the variations I'm trying to decide on, put them on my phone, and listen in bed and on any other system I can play them on. So, I like visuals. As in the examples, sometimes you can see the problem. Thanks for videos about the basics like this, I would have had worked out all the maths in '87, to be told, twist the knob and see.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Do you have a nice set of headphones?
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 5 ай бұрын
@@AudioMountain777 No, not at all. I have some 90s open backed Beyerdynamic Studio headphones that maybe I could mix on, and a few cheap headphones with good separation I track with, but I'm really in no hurry. I don't really mind taking my time to make decisions about the mix. After all, I'm recording songs I wrote in the 80s and 90s, and trying to play and sing everything myself, so I see it as a learning experience, visual aids are very useful.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
👍
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
👍
@adamswierczynski
@adamswierczynski 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for doing a followup and making this video.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@cmd_f5
@cmd_f5 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic runthrough of dynamics here. Probably the clearest and easiest to understand the difference between limiters and clippers I've ever watched. Subbed \M/
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Welcome to the channel!
@NevilleDMusicTV
@NevilleDMusicTV 5 ай бұрын
Class in session. Let's go!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
👍
@ClarkWagaman-pw7to
@ClarkWagaman-pw7to 5 ай бұрын
Another excellent tutorial ! Thank you! 👍
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@reziahamed6654
@reziahamed6654 5 ай бұрын
Clipping all ya videos mate... Keep on rolling buddy... 🤗🎉🎉
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
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@DiegoParedes
@DiegoParedes 5 ай бұрын
Great info! Thank you!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@steverachmadofficial
@steverachmadofficial 5 ай бұрын
Many, many thanks🙏 Again very helpful stuff 🙏
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@planetclay
@planetclay 5 ай бұрын
omg...my favorite master-bus processor. i have numerous fairly pricey alternatives to choose from but i've been at home with this thing for nearly a decade now. i like it better than Vlad's new Tokyo Dawn Limiter 6 Gentleman's Edition.....though that things is A MONSTER. haha.....good on you for featuring this unique, as well as hard to find, device. i like this GUI much better than the dark blue russian version....btw...just saying.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Nice!
@PurpleMusicProductions
@PurpleMusicProductions 5 ай бұрын
I have never tried using a clipper and may have to experiment with it.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Great!
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 5 ай бұрын
I spent weeks testing out various compressors on my drum loops to try and understand them better, while trying to tame the peaks and make my loops sound "fat", as I was under the misapprehension that compressors always push down the peaks. I soon learned that - depending on attack, release, and ratio etc - compressors can actually make loops more "spiky". And then I grabbed a clipper. It gave me what I wanted (lower peaks, thicker overall sound) almost instantly and without having to twiddle 3 or 4 knobs. For drum loops in particular, I'm never gonna waste so much time on compressors again!
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! After the peaks are clipped you can try dialing in a compressor just for groove and feel., plus a little more balance of volume. It's easier to use a compressor on drum loops after the peaks have been clipped.
@G7sus4chord
@G7sus4chord 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic stuff! Clippers and "early-in-the-chain saturation of transients" (the latter from another of the series' videos) are both new concepts to me. When would you use one over the other? Aren't clipping and transient saturating both seeking the same objective?
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, 2 slightly different approaches to the same thing, so try both. Clippers are made for that but straight saturation can sound really good, it just depends. Thanks for the comment!
@marcotrosi
@marcotrosi 5 ай бұрын
is it correct that for StudioOne the hard clipping-"Feature/Effect" is in the Bitcrusher stock plugin? Couldn't find anything else.And soft clipping is in the stock Limiter plugin? Or can I achieve hard clipping with the Limiter with Mode B. I'm not sure what Mode B does exactly. The manual only says it might distort.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
The studio one clipper is part of bitcrusher, which also does lo-fi stuff, but the clipper function works pretty good. Try it out!
@brokko_le3
@brokko_le3 5 ай бұрын
Clippers confuse me. From my perspective the concept seems so simple. It would seem to be one of the few effects I could probably build myself. A "my first VST" kind of project, with only a gainer probably being less complex (and in case of a hardclipper, not even). Apparently it's not as simple as "if signal greater than limit then signal is limit". When searching for one (a standalone one) there are rankings, few free ones, and some have 128x and even 256x oversampling. Meanwhile the market is completely saturated with compressors, where even free ones rank among the best. So, what's the big deal with these clippers? What's their beneath-the-hood magic?
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
Great question. You might enjoy some interviews from the developers of these plugins. Thanks for watching!
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 5 ай бұрын
Some of the more advanced clippers have multiband functionality and some even allow you to dial in additional tube-style harmonics (in addition to the typical tape-style odd-order harmonics) but I think clippers are fundamentally much less complex than compressors, since they lack envelopes for the time domain. As I understand it, a basic clipper can be made by drawing a curve or a couple of straight lines at an angle on a waveshaper plugin. It seems to me that all a clipper does is boost or cut the volume of the input signal depending on where it falls on the x-y graph. Hence, a freebie clipper should work well, but oversampling at 16x or so is advisable if you're pushing it to create a lot of harmonics that will create aliasing that you'd like to avoid.
@AudioMountain777
@AudioMountain777 5 ай бұрын
That's a very interesting idea, but I'm under the impression that clippers are designed to perform the clip by folding and sawing the peak, so I'm not sure if the result would be as good as a clipper, but it would be fun to compare those two methods.
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