I would absolutely love it if WG made it so that IFHE and APCS worked on secondaries. I don’t like relying on fires when I’m brawling in a Schlieffen
@LiteBosmark3 ай бұрын
I think Tokachi benefits far more from IFHE+ than Smolensk does. Tokachi has great HE pen and everything in t7 is just so soft so she ends up fullpenning things with HE in a similar manner to Gdansk line. There's an actual diffrrence between AP and HE damage with Smolensk so APCS is still the way to go imo. Also, Gorshkov is just a waste on Smolensk anyways
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Need to test that now
@Redgamingdino40054 ай бұрын
Gotta mention Paolo Emilio. Has HE and SAP. Also Slai. YOU MISSED AUSTIN. The only American ship with no AP! Lmao
@Slai474 ай бұрын
Haha oops. Yolo Emilio can be missed. Austin.... I feel bad I missed it
@ottaviobasques3 ай бұрын
Thing with IFHE is that HE pen is kinda pointless given how simplified armor mechanics is. Shells don't ricochet in blitz, after all.
@zeroburrito3 ай бұрын
You want full damage though. That's not pointless at all.
@SamGrey3 ай бұрын
1:48 you may wanna check your math there slai. 15% increase on 50mm gives 57.5mm of pen (an increase of 7.5mm), while a 5% increase on 120mm gives 126mm of pen (an increase of only 6mm). That being said, apcs is still the goat 😅
@Slai473 ай бұрын
It was a hasty simplification 😅 . Ooops
@SamGrey3 ай бұрын
@@Slai47 figured haha. Just had to make sure the slaience was correct 😂
@raven2kf3 ай бұрын
Thunderer works well with Lord Nelson and his IFHE plus skill, Conqueror is still dogshit even with APCS and the worst battleship at tier 10 by a huge margin. God save that line
@TheWiseFool_3 ай бұрын
@slai47 you have faced my ifhe zoa more than once.. it regularly cits bbs and always rips I never use ap on zoa
@Slai473 ай бұрын
I've seen both. APCS zao has moments it helps and hurts. IFHE+ Zao has some merit but it's rare to see them.
@kardy123 ай бұрын
I hadn’t thought about the Yodo line… getting close to unlocking lvl 11 skill for Togo - might be worth trying IFHE+ on the Black Shimanto…
@Slai473 ай бұрын
It will help a bunch
@DZ-yw8pz3 ай бұрын
How about Harugumo line? I found I shoot HE a lot even fighting against DDs. I don't feel AP brings much of advantage over the potential fires from HE. Thanks. @Slai47
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Harugumo has such bad HE and AP pen that neither feel like it helps 😂. So dealers choice
@ChillyIceBurger3 ай бұрын
Given your points, what's the optimal American ship to use Thomas Kinkaid and his IFHE+? Or, just ignore and go APCS on everything?
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Austin only
@PolderPiraat3 ай бұрын
Have him on Worcester, cuz I only spam HE 🤪
@Slai473 ай бұрын
@@PolderPiraat APCS makes close range brawls nuts with Worcester
@lesvickroy65373 ай бұрын
Great video Slai47. Question: On PC ifhe penalizes fire chance. I don't have the statistics to prove it, but I feel like I don't get as many fires with ifhe. You sold me on Tovey on Monarch a long time ago.
@Slai473 ай бұрын
As far as I know, no it doesn't penalize you. Glad you are enjoying Tovey on Monarch!
@ottaviobasques3 ай бұрын
On PC, IFHE halves the fire chance (given PC fire chances are higher than Blitz). It's still useful for many ship to get into 32mm of HE pen.
@lesvickroy65373 ай бұрын
@ottaviobasques I understand the advantages of IFHE. However, it only makes sense that if fires are external, by penetrating more shots, you would start fewer fires. I noticed that I am starting more fires per HE shell running APCS with Tovey than I was running a IFHE commander. Plus the AP was more effective. This is just an observation with no statistical evidence, though. That is why I asked.
@bvanad0r3 ай бұрын
Curious your thoughts on Nevsky line
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Until Donskoi, IHFE but APCS for the top two
@michalmichael98302 ай бұрын
What about Yoshino HE?
@theunknown213292 ай бұрын
Worcester?
@Slai472 ай бұрын
Not really needed, APCS helps it against other cruisers
@Bis_Lin4 ай бұрын
thx for Informationen
@vladimircih90143 ай бұрын
What about the Nelson?
@Slai473 ай бұрын
IFHE+ only, thank you for reminding me
@toaster19323 ай бұрын
IFHE or APCS Zao?
@Slai473 ай бұрын
APCS if you want to deal with BBs and cruisers better in it. IFHE if you want your HE to do great against DDs. Its like 45-55 IFHE to APCS.
@JohnFisher-cc5gm3 ай бұрын
How about takao ?
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Not really
@sonnyrockwel12663 ай бұрын
SLAIENTIST? :P APCS /+ Is cool; but citadels scored on a knocked off turret with IFHE / + with a triple perma fire is hard as fuck .. lol
@Slai473 ай бұрын
It's hilarious too
@albertaaardvark9663 ай бұрын
Thoughts on using IFHE on tech tree Chinese cruisers?
@Redgamingdino40053 ай бұрын
APCS is better for Pan Asian Cruisers (Jinan line)
@Slai473 ай бұрын
APCS makes you basically full pen all of the time on DDs so no. APCS
@albertaaardvark9663 ай бұрын
@@Slai47 That makes sense. My thinking was since I fire much much more HE than AP on this line with those pop guns that I might as well be buffing it up. But you're right, killing dds takes priority. Thanks.
@the_glorious_thing3 ай бұрын
How come this video came out both 2 days ago and 2 hours ago
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Preview for Members
@williamstevenson55343 ай бұрын
What a out the KGV, default is HE , so i took the HE bonus on my cpt and get routine citadel strikes using only HE.
@Slai473 ай бұрын
Wait you play that? You got guts
@williamstevenson55343 ай бұрын
@@Slai47 and actually have a good wr in it. It got the HE buff not to long ago. People sleep on the ole KGV. Have a lvl 12 cpt in it.
@williamstevenson55343 ай бұрын
@@Slai47 701 battles, 69.7% wr and avg around 40k dmg.
@Slai473 ай бұрын
@@williamstevenson5534 holy crap, that is some dedication. Nice work
@williamstevenson55343 ай бұрын
@@Slai47 coming from you, respect. Been playin 5+ yrs now. In the USN 1st fleet.