When Unconventional Form Isn't "Bad Form" | Cole Redalen Form Thoughts

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Here we look at Cole Redalen’s backhand form. This guy absolutely crushes the disc. Let’s dig in a little bit to something that looks a bit awkward to most of us, but that I don’t believe is really a problem.
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0:00 - Intro
0:18 - Disclaimer
0:52 - Walking backwards?
1:25 - Potential problems for you
3:16 - When to let it slide
4:48 - What he’s doing well
5:46 - Support this guy if you want
6:20 - Groovy outro music

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@OverthrowDiscGolf 3 ай бұрын

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@ortay3 3 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a singular video going over what the core fundamentals are or the non negotiables that everyone throwing over 500' is doing. And then more like this that are the 'nice to haves'. Cole gets away with his back foot, Calvin has a little elbow dip etc

@AmputeeDiscGolf 3 ай бұрын

Love this type of breakdown. Especially as an adaptive thrower who has to make small tweaks from “normal”, it’s really helps my understanding on evaluating what’s happening as I’m learning

@BlitzDG 3 ай бұрын

Love this direction Josh! Great video.

@seabas22 3 ай бұрын

Cole is very ER hip dominant, you can see he stands and walks a bit duck footed normally.

@kbarb3071 3 ай бұрын

What's ER?

@seabas22 3 ай бұрын

@@kbarb3071 External Rotation or Retroverted vs Internal Rotation or Anteverted hips.

@Andyofsuh 3 ай бұрын

I believe i am too.. so is back foot pointed backwards like cole fine?

@hoodrich4375 3 ай бұрын

TLDR: If its bad, its bad. If its bad but good then it isn't bad.

@cautiousoptimist1926 3 ай бұрын

The disparities in form amongst those who throw far has always been very interesting to me. People who teach disc golf usually focus on the similarities and are dismissive of the dissimilarities. Those movements that make an individuals throw unique are what catches the eye, but that doesn't mean that they are a problem. And, there are large variations from grip to follow through. It seems that for almost any " you must do this" advice you can find a successful thrower whose form contradicts that assertion.

@_TDG 3 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Thanks for adding this nuance to the conversation.

@ChayseGrizzell 3 ай бұрын

Paul made a great comment about weight and run up speed to help correct Nate's early release issues during the Jomez Waco front 9 practice round. You may have already watched the video. In a nutshell, having your weight too far forward on your plant leg will cause an early release. I think more importantly, his other comments mentioned matching your run up speed with your arm speed, which I found interesting. It effects your timing. People with slower arm speeds may not be able to afford a faster run up, because it will not allow their arm speed to catch up. Finding a good run up speed is something people can work on to find the right timing that works with their own personal arm speed.

@DeadphishyEP3 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Keep it up.

@man0utoftime 3 ай бұрын

I've seen tons of form feedback where people say the back foot has to point sideways. It's BS, imo. All you gotta do is go through slow-mo of top pros like Simon and see their back foot pointing 45deg, not 90.

@bcampbelljohn 3 ай бұрын

I just went out and tried the correct form vs Cole's form. The easy winner was Cole. More distance. More accurate. And way easier on the body. I'd definitely challenge you guys to get in the field and try it for yourselves. I'm thinking this form could be a breakthrough for a ton of people. (MA3 player)

@discsmd 3 ай бұрын

Third! 😅 Such a great concept and so true! Love this! And look at that quiet head! :)

@NickCarroll 3 ай бұрын

I absolutely love this video Josh! I hadn't looked at Cole's form like this before. I couldn't place what was different at a glance, but this dialed it in for me. 🙂

@superblitz 3 ай бұрын

The thing i notice about Cole's form is he slightly rounds. if one were to draw a straight line from his extension, he would be a lot further left than where the disc is actually released from.

@Scrabbelol 3 ай бұрын

Hello! What is the app you are using when reviewing footage? Nice video!

@discgolfwes 3 ай бұрын

I believe he's said before he uses a program called Coach's Eye

@OverthrowDiscGolf 3 ай бұрын

OnForm. It used to be coach’s eye but they discontinued it

@joeillingworth1141 3 ай бұрын

The key is he keeps off his back heel and by being on his toe he easily transfers to the inside of the foot instead of tipping over

@AaronWalkerdiscgolf 3 ай бұрын

I do something similar and I throw like 460, but I don’t brace my plant leg enough.

@tulsathundercat 3 ай бұрын

Somehow you are the casting for a liveaction earthworm jim. And hell yeah

@OverthrowDiscGolf 3 ай бұрын

Well he’s ripped so I’ve got some work to do.

@dwmichaels 3 ай бұрын

Nice to see an explanation. Also, I do believe the phrase is, "you can't eat your cake and have it too." Everybody can have a cake and then eat it. What you can't do is eat your cake and then still have it :) Thanks for the vids.